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Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts

GUEST,Aaron 29 Jun 16 - 06:18 AM
Acme 29 Jun 16 - 07:11 AM
gillymor 29 Jun 16 - 07:34 AM
bubblyrat 29 Jun 16 - 10:22 AM
GUEST,Mark Bluemel 29 Jun 16 - 11:18 AM
Helen 29 Jun 16 - 05:09 PM
GUEST,Pete Kiddle 30 Jun 16 - 03:13 AM
clueless don 30 Jun 16 - 08:43 AM
GUEST,Pete Kiddle 30 Jun 16 - 09:29 AM
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Subject: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: GUEST,Aaron
Date: 29 Jun 16 - 06:18 AM

Hi all,
Not sure if this is an appropriate topic for Mudcat (I'm sure I'll be informed either way soon enough ;-) but I've been asked as part of an academic interview to collate what I consider to be:

Top five albums that feature 'Celtic' bouzouki.
Top ten bouzouki tracks.
Top twenty bouzouki players.

This is not for a press 'interview', rather for an academic paper which will be used to point young aspiring players in the right direction. Given that musical taste is so subjective I would like to throw these questions out to the greater musical community to make sure that these 'young aspiring bouzouki players' get as broad a range of suggestions as possible and not just my personal opinions.

It would be great if you could add a little about why you like an album/track or player and of course, you don't need to fill all three lists but if you have any opinions I'd be very happy to hear them and add them into the mix and who knows I might even discover a new bouzouki hero or 'desert island' bouzouki track for myself along the way!
In anticipation, thank you for your time.
Best wishes,
Aaron


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: Acme
Date: 29 Jun 16 - 07:11 AM

Seems to me this is the perfect venue to ask such a question!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: gillymor
Date: 29 Jun 16 - 07:34 AM

1.Planxty- Planxty (aka the Black album) Featuring Donal Lunny and Andy Irvine
2. The Bothy Band-The Bothy Band. More Donal Lunny.
3. Dervish- Midsummer's Night. Michael Holmes, zouk, with Brian
   McDonagh, mandola some wonderful interplay between the two.
4. DeDannan- Hibernian Rhapsody.Feat. Alec Finn
5. Gerald Trimble- Crosscurrents

This is just top of the head. Tons more.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: bubblyrat
Date: 29 Jun 16 - 10:22 AM

Bouzouki ?? Just try the Real Thing and listen to Cat Stevens singing "Ruby My Love" ;the bouzouki playing is great (and VERY "Greek" even if Stevens ( aka Yussef Islam these days)comes from Cyprus , not Greece !!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: GUEST,Mark Bluemel
Date: 29 Jun 16 - 11:18 AM

Try some Nancy Kerr and James Fagan for a non-Irish approach to the "Celtic" 'zouk.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: Helen
Date: 29 Jun 16 - 05:09 PM

gillymor,

Is there any bouzouki on any of The Pogues' songs?

I just looked through the wiki articles for each album and the bouzouki is not mentioned. I thought The Limerick Rake had bouzouki on it but the instruments listed in the article for the whole album show Jem Finer on banjo, and Terry Woods on cittern and mandolin.

There are some brilliant examples of Finer's and Woods' and other musicians' use of that style of instrument on a lot of songs by The Pogues.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: GUEST,Pete Kiddle
Date: 30 Jun 16 - 03:13 AM

Anything by Andy Irvine, Jamie McMenemy or the occasional Paul Brady(Welcome Here Kind Stranger album) have all been a life long inspiration to me.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: clueless don
Date: 30 Jun 16 - 08:43 AM

Many fine bouzouki players in Irish music - Donal Lunny has already been mentioned, and then there's Alec Finn. But I want to make special mention of Eoin O'Neill, both with the Ceili Bandits and on other recordings.

Don


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: GUEST,Pete Kiddle
Date: 30 Jun 16 - 09:29 AM

1. 'The Road To Kerrigouarch'h'-Jamie McMenemy (+ Battlefield/ Kornog)
2. 'Andy Irvine and Paul Brady' (+ Planxty, and Andy solos)
3. 'Skylark' - Gary O'Briain
4. 'Feadoga Stain' - Mary Bergin and Alec Finn
5. 'Bouzoukispelman' - Ale Moller (+ Filarfolket).I know he is Swedish,but you put 'Celtic' in quote marks, and he is highly influential, not to be missed.
    Other players, Johnny Moynahan, Niall O'Callanain, Fintan McManus, Donal Lunny, and, of course, that Aaron Jones.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: Stu
Date: 30 Jun 16 - 09:32 AM

Albums:

1) Frankie Gavin and Alec Finn
2) Planxty - The Well Below the Valley
3) Eoin O'Neil - In Session
4) Cran - Music =From the Edge of The World
5) Martin Tourish and Luke Ward - Clan Ranald


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: Stanron
Date: 30 Jun 16 - 10:26 AM

I'm not quite sure what an 'academic interview' is but you might want to go easy on the word Celtic. Technically the music is traditional music from Scotland, Ireland and, perhaps, England and Wales, given a modern re-interpretation. The extreme Western Coast of Europe also has a related association.

In an academic environment you might want to point out that the historical origins of the music are most probably Norse.

The Celtic civilisation, which once spread from Turkey to the Atlantic, was mostly eradicated by the Romans by 400 AD. The bits the Romans missed were over-run by the Vikings 400 years later. I would guess that by 1000 AD there was no Celtic culture left.

The use of the word in it's current context appears to have originated in America. It is a kind of convenient label but in an academic circle it could be judged lazy.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: gillymor
Date: 30 Jun 16 - 10:51 PM

Helen,

CBOM is an acronym for Cittern, Bouzouki, and Octave Mandolin as they are all very closely related. The modern day Cittern in "Celtic" music is basically an Irish bouzouki with another course of strings.
Here's an informative (or confusing) article on CBOM's by an outstanding player, Robin Bullock.

Woods plays Cittern on The Recruiting Sergeant Medley, Thousands are Sailing, South Australia/Red Haired Mary, The Limerick Rake, Lullaby of London and a lot of other songs and tunes for The Pogues.

Rod


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: Helen
Date: 01 Jul 16 - 01:14 AM

Thanks Rod,

I was starting to think that I had misheard the instrument in all of those songs.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: ollaimh
Date: 01 Jul 16 - 06:28 PM

pete kiddle, eah "welcome here kind stranger" is a fantastic if rather forgotten album. i have it on casdsette(remember cassettes). and the old album with paul brady and andy irvine together, the one with the blue cover has somegreat tunes with great bouzouki tracks


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: Helen
Date: 06 Jul 16 - 03:27 PM

Hey Aaron,

How did the academic paper go? I'm interested in the bouzouki pieces you decided to include.

I know Mudcat was down a lot, over a couple of weeks,so you may have had problems getting back onto this thread.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Jul 16 - 08:50 PM

Yep, Paul Brady is such a great singer and guitarist you forget he could play the snot out of the bouzouki and mandolin. Wearin' The Britches


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: Helen
Date: 07 Jul 16 - 03:37 PM

Eeee-yewww! Is that the technical term for brilliant musical ability?

:-D

Helen


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: GUEST,Pete Kiddle
Date: 08 Jul 16 - 07:15 AM

I know he's Scottish, not Irish, but there are reasons I've put Jamie Mcmenemy and Kornog at the top of my list. Check him out on the dreaded You Tube.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: gillymor
Date: 08 Jul 16 - 07:46 AM

I agree, McMenemy and Kornog are top notch.

Andy Irvine & Co. performing The Blind Harper . I didn't know this one was in his repetoire, Youtube is really a marvelous resource.

"Eeee-yewww", didn't that outfit just get brexited by those limeys, Helen?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: Helen
Date: 09 Jul 16 - 01:01 AM

That's snot the EU I meant.

Peter, I think Aaron, the originator of the thread wanted to know about Irish bouzouki playing, so the bouzouki is Irish but the players and the tunes they play don't have to be Irish.

I'm just hoping Aaron comes back to check out the thread.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 05:51 AM

Hi all,
Firstly apologies for taking so long to reply to the responses. Summer touring took a grip and the inbox grew ever longer...
Some great replies and many suggestions will go into the 'recommended listening' list for students. Thank you.
A great Greek suggestion too but was looking specifically for 'Celtic' style playing as the course is based in Scotland. And thanks for the history lesson ;-) I dislike the umbrella term 'Celtic' too but just wanted to save time and be clear (as mud) that I was just looking for suggestions from the Scots, Irish, English, Welsh, Cornish, Breton, Asturian, Manx and Galician cultures without having to spell it out ;-)
Happy too with the 'related instruments' recommendations too - especially as a cittern player myself.
I'll use this in correlation with the many professional players I asked and try to make as fair and balanced list as I can so the student get a good cross section of styles, techniques and approaches and hopefully, before long, they'll be able to "play the snot" out of their respective instruments ;-)
I'll post the lists here too...
Best wishes and kind regards,
Aaron


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Greatest Bouzouki Parts
From: Helen
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 02:50 PM

Thanks for the update Aaron. I'm looking forward to seeing the list.

Helen


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