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BS: Trump again

Jack Campin 22 Dec 16 - 10:50 AM
Jim Carroll 09 Nov 16 - 04:21 AM
TIA 09 Nov 16 - 02:07 AM
SPB-Cooperator 08 Nov 16 - 02:15 PM
Greg F. 07 Nov 16 - 07:55 PM
Donuel 05 Nov 16 - 02:03 PM
Donuel 05 Nov 16 - 09:15 AM
Greg F. 04 Nov 16 - 07:57 PM
Donuel 04 Nov 16 - 07:44 PM
Greg F. 04 Nov 16 - 06:42 PM
McGrath of Harlow 03 Nov 16 - 01:40 PM
gillymor 03 Nov 16 - 11:01 AM
Greg F. 03 Nov 16 - 10:50 AM
DMcG 03 Nov 16 - 08:54 AM
Georgiansilver 03 Nov 16 - 07:19 AM
McGrath of Harlow 02 Nov 16 - 09:56 PM
Mr Red 02 Nov 16 - 07:00 PM
Greg F. 02 Nov 16 - 06:52 PM
McGrath of Harlow 02 Nov 16 - 06:44 PM
Pete from seven stars link 02 Nov 16 - 04:59 PM
Greg F. 02 Nov 16 - 04:03 PM
Stu 02 Nov 16 - 03:41 PM
McGrath of Harlow 02 Nov 16 - 02:54 PM
Greg F. 02 Nov 16 - 02:45 PM
DMcG 02 Nov 16 - 02:25 PM
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akenaton 02 Nov 16 - 12:44 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Jack Campin
Date: 22 Dec 16 - 10:50 AM

Trump International may get sued for corporate voyeurism:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-38407005


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 04:21 AM

America's 11-9
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: TIA
Date: 09 Nov 16 - 02:07 AM

We are fooked.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 08 Nov 16 - 02:15 PM

IF Trump wins and IF he goes through with his threat to ignore commitments to addressing climate change, the the rest of the world must immediate commit to zero use of non renewable energy to offset the increase in US carbon foot print.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Nov 16 - 07:55 PM

Abe Lincoln Brought Up To Date:

I am not a Trumpist – that is certain. How could I be? How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that 'all men are created equal.' We now practically read it 'all men are created equal, except negroes.' When the Trumpists get control, it will read 'all men are created equals, except negroes and foreigners and Catholics and Mexicans and Muslims.' When it comes to that I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Nov 16 - 02:03 PM

Innuendo Politics:

It is not so much that Trump may have had a heart attack, suffice it say that he has popped his cardiac cherry.

There is not that much distance between Trump and the Republican party.
He has the useful imaginative recall of Reagan, the finality of Nelson Rockefeller's last hurrah and boldly goes where Goldwater did not.

Trump's inner child has grown an outer man able to withstand the bullying torment of outstanding leaders&sadists at military school.


Detached retinas, voyeurism and compulsive grabbing ...er gambling should not deny anyone the Presidency of the United States.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Nov 16 - 09:15 AM

As fire fighters say you have to fight Trump with Trump.
Basically we are dealing with the world's largest, most self adoring, ontological single cell life form that grows a little larger with every lie he repeats.


WHAT HAS THE MEDIA WANTED FROM TRUMP?

ratings


WHAT WAS MISSING FROM ALL COVERAGE?

A single question posed to Trump about American & World History. Arithmetic, the Constitution, the 'four' branches of government, Jesus and what is the difference between the 3rd Reich and Putinism.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Nov 16 - 07:57 PM

Donnie Get Your Gun.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Nov 16 - 07:44 PM

Greg you finally convinced me to go with Trump.

Bob Roberts is so similar you should see the movie by the same name


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Nov 16 - 06:42 PM

And The Cockroaches Prepare


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Nov 16 - 01:40 PM

"Yes I can!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: gillymor
Date: 03 Nov 16 - 11:01 AM

I'd LOL, Greg, if that orange-headed buffoon weren't so close to becoming Groper in Chief.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 03 Nov 16 - 10:50 AM

5 Reasons to Vote Trump


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Nov 16 - 08:54 AM

Leaving aside the details of the rape accusation for the moment, it does seem to me to be incredibly difficult to ensure a fair trial. Even if the trial (when it comes) is actually fair, how you convince such a divided electorate that is was fair is, to say the least, challenging. As that applies whatever the decision, or if the case is settled before it goes to trial.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 03 Nov 16 - 07:19 AM

Can there FBI really afford to invest $1000s of dollars in investigating Clintons e-mails or is it being financed from elsewhere`?    Just askin'


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 09:56 PM

The Independent has just reported that the woman who claims Trump raped her at a party back in 1994 when she was 13 has cancelled her first public appearance at a press conference sceduled today. Her lawyer said that this was because she was terrified because of "terrible threats".


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Mr Red
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 07:00 PM

the good old days?

Just saying...............


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 06:52 PM

And as opposed to the fanatical Hillary Haters (and I am no fan of Hillary) there are perfectly logical REASONS based on FACTS to think the worst of Trump, as he's a proven piece of shit many times over.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 06:44 PM

I don't think it's only Hillary supporters who are likely to think the worst of Trump. From what I've read there are a lot of Trump supporters who do as well, but aren't too worried by that kind of thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 04:59 PM

As if Hillary supporters are not just as likely to think the worst of trump. Blinkered all round I reckon !


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 04:03 PM

It's an allegation rather than a conviction - but of course that wouldn't be a distinction Trump supporters

That's the advantage [?] of living in a fact-free, logic-antithetical universe.

vide Bearded-BS-Bruce.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Stu
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 03:41 PM

Good to see you're paying attention Ake. Do try to keep up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 02:54 PM

It's an allegation rather than a conviction - but of course that wouldn't be a distinction Trump supporters give any weight to when it comes to Hillary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 02:45 PM

Do not attemot to confuse Ake with facts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: DMcG
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 02:25 PM

Well I Googled "Trump rape december" and got a lot of results including https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/12/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-alleged-rape-lawsuit

So Google did find it quite easily.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Penny S.
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 01:52 PM

Not difficult to find on DuckDuckGo.

Court case discussion with legal papers


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: akenaton
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 12:44 PM

Where did you hear that Stu, and who accused him of such a thing?

There is nothing on Google and its very dangerous to make up stories like that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Stu
Date: 02 Nov 16 - 07:49 AM

"Sorry, cross posted Mr McGrath, but what particular "horrific hangover" do you have in mind should Mr Trump be elected president?"

The fact he will be in court accused of child rape in December? Has that ever happened to a President elect?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 06:09 PM

In foreign affairs, war is more likely under a Clinton administration

Ake,

only

in

your

farkin'

dreams (delusions)

Now, join up with BullshitBruce and y'all can get a few more useful threads closed by the mods (or perhaps the rockers).


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 05:47 PM

Donald Trump has talked about using the nuclear weapons America has. There is no reason whatsoever to think he is less likely to bring about war. There's absolutely no point in quoting anything he says, because he has said just about anything.

I'm afraid I'd far sooner rely on the judgement of Noam Chomsky and Bernie Sanders. (and Michael Moore for that matter) about such matters than on yours, aken.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 05:26 PM

Greg, I am no more an idiot than you are, or Bruce or Mr McGrath.
We just have differences of opinion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 05:22 PM

Sorry, cross posted Mr McGrath, but what particular "horrific hangover" do you have in mind should Mr Trump be elected president?
In foreign affairs, war is more likely under a Clinton administration because of her bellicose attitude to Mr Putin and Russia.
Mr Trump favours co-operation amongst world powers to defeat terrorism. Mr Trump, should he win will not govern in isolation......remember how Mrs Clinton moulded President Obama's distorted legacy?
Somehow I think it is unlikely that Mr Trump will appoint a Trojan Horse!


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 05:02 PM

Jesus, Ake, are you really tht much of a idiot?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 04:59 PM

What absolute bullshit!   I don't agree with the guy's domestic politics, but he has come through a gruelling primary campaign in spite of the Republican establishment trying to undermine him and the "liberal" media campaign of digging up historic character flaws.

OK he says things the "liberal left" don't like but that does not make him a monster or an abuser like previous US presidents.
The fact that he is still there with a chance of winning against the whole of the corrupt US political establishment demands a degree of respect even from the most undemocratic and ideologically driven among us.

Should we also kill him because we think he's a "bad man", like Saddam and Gadhafi?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 04:55 PM

I think Michael Moore very effectively explains why there will be decent people voting for Trump. It comes out of desperation and justifiable anger.

That often makes people do objectively stupid things. It's a reason why adolescents go in for cutting themselves, and why many people of all ages drink and drug themselves into a stupor. "Without any regard for facts or the inevitable consequences thereof."

There's a horrifying hangover and worse up ahead for such voters if Trump wins. But of course, it won't just be them who'll suffer. Nor will it just be Americans.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 03:50 PM

why a lot of decent people are likely to vote for him

Contradiction in terms.

Were they indeed "decent people" with any regard for facts or for the inevitable consequences thereof, they would NOT vote for him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 03:26 PM

McGrath,

Yes, but when I said the same thing GregtrF calls it BS.... A pity that he is now the "offical MUDCAT Voice of the Left"

Makes the rest of you look bad.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 03:11 PM

Michael Moore has warned that Trump is quite likely to win. In his movie Trumpland, which can be seen on youTube, he explains why a lot of decent people are likely to vote for him, and deeply regret doing so when they find out what the reality of a Trump presidency actually means.

Well worth watching the film, which is Michael Moore's desperate attempt to prevent the nightmare he sees coming.

Trump is a conman, and conmen often succeed in conning people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Ed T
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 02:27 PM

USA Felons, state by state restrictions 


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 11:47 AM

Obviously you do not have a clue, GregtrF.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 09:11 AM

Obviouisly you don't have a clue where Moore is coming from, do you Beardie?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 08:00 AM

Michael Moore: Donald Trump will win the election, and it'll be a big 'f--- you' from voters

Paul Schrodt,
Published 9:46 am, Wednesday, October 26, 2016



Michael Moore has argued since the summer that he thinks Donald Trump will win the 2016 presidential election, and his stance hasn't changed.

The Oscar-winning documentary filmmaker has a new movie out, "Michael Moore in TrumpLand," in which he essentially makes an argument for why people, especially those on the fence, should vote for Hillary Clinton instead of the Republican nominee.

Despite that case and polling that suggests Trump has lost ground to Clinton in the race, Moore told an audience at a recent "TrumpLand" event that he believes Trump will win largely because of how the middle and working classes in America feel at the moment.

"I know a lot of people in Michigan that are planning to vote for Trump, and they don't necessarily agree with him," Moore said, according to Salon.

Whether voters agree with Trump, or if he would deliver on promises to them, Moore says he believes they'll choose the real-estate mogul on Election Day to send a signal to elites in the country about the state of government.

"Trump's election is going to be the biggest 'f--- you' ever recorded in human history — and it will feel good," Moore said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 07:52 AM

And not all them are allowed to vote.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Ed T
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 07:02 AM

Regardless of world wide perspectives/opinions/personal preferences, only USA citizens actually get to vote.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Nov 16 - 02:43 AM

The main point to come out of Mr Sanders defeat.....or capitulation, was the corruption at the heart of the Democratic party.

That in itself would stop me voting for them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Ed T
Date: 31 Oct 16 - 06:24 PM

I suspect Buddha could likely beat Trump, as could Abe Lincoln.
But, none of these folks are in the current USA vote, and neither is Bernie.
Case closed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 Oct 16 - 06:17 PM

"It looks to me" means "I predict"   We'll see. It could well be he might be offered a job, and it might be he'd take it, and use it. But silenced and coopted? I doubt it. Aside from everything else, what's he got to gain by turning into a tame hamster?


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Jack Campin
Date: 31 Oct 16 - 04:23 PM

Trump, golf, Scotland and lawsuits


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 31 Oct 16 - 09:08 AM

"Silenced"?? Looks to your fevered imagination, you mean, Ake.


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Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: akenaton
Date: 31 Oct 16 - 02:53 AM

Unfortunately it looks to me that Mr Sanders will be given a token job in a Clinton administration and will be bound to silence.

"Money doesn't talk.... it swears." RZ


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