BS: Trump again

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 Aug 16 - 03:01 PM

Multiple Sclerosis? Spreading a suggestion like that might make people think of her as a real life President Bartlett from West Wing, who was revealed as having that - and that's rather a positive image for a hostile prropaganda machine.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Aug 16 - 03:05 PM

"most the time politicians manage to present themselves in a superficially appealing way. "

This is what drives much of political cartooning. Trump defies this model, he really is deeply unappealing on the surface all the way to the bone.

Doonesbury had the strange inside joke of depicting all Bush family members as invisible. My inside joke is that my IQ is 50 or below, ergo invisible. Never mind the reason.

Trump can be depicted as the invisible dog doo stink on the bottom of your shoe. Godlike, Trump is everywhere and follows every step you take.



Greg good songs about a bad man.
Can you perform them?


PS:
the new white US Nazi party today is going by the name of Alt Right.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Aug 16 - 03:22 PM

I forgot about West Wing but the hypnosis propagandists working for Trump obviously did not. It adds subliminal believability. This smacks of real black hat think tank crap.

If you missed my early posts about there being a time when the CIA wanted to cultivate/employ my 'expertise' regarding propaganda and nefarious hypnotic deeds, they were all true.

The cats out of the bag in more than one way.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 Aug 16 - 04:25 PM

But I'd rather doubt the people who will vote for Trump wouldn't have watched the West Wing. A bit left wing for a lot of Democrats I have been led to believe. Closer to Bernie than Hillary.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 24 Aug 16 - 05:17 PM

Greg good songs about a bad man. Can you perform them?

Once upon a time, but no longer. Sliced a tendon in my left hand 10 years back & guitar & dulcimer have been on the shelf ever since. Life is a succession of compromises.

But thanks for asking!!

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Aug 16 - 10:25 PM

I sliced the left index and middle finger tendon and nerve from canoeing into a lake whirlpool. When first severed it made a sound in my brain. It went Boing! After micro surgery it was strengthened but not the same.


Re: Trump - After the great F*ck up, comes the great softening.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: gillymor
Date: 25 Aug 16 - 06:31 AM

"After the great F*ck up, comes the great softening"

You can sprinkle powdered sugar on a turd but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: gillymor
Date: 25 Aug 16 - 08:31 AM

I've seen flip-flops during a presidential campaign but never one as extreme as Trump"s on his hard-line immigration policy, which was the centerpiece of his primary campaign.
This from an article in Commentary yesterday:

'Donald Trump is shifting to an illegal immigration policy that is a complete echo of the proposals by Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio he condemned as "amnesty" during the primaries—which by definition means he won't be forcibly deporting 11 million people if he becomes president. Those forcible deportations were one of the few clear policy positions he's taken, and he was screaming about them at his rallies as late as last week.

This gobsmacking flip-flop means two things. First, Trump's brazen contempt for his own supporters is so thoroughgoing he thinks he can say anything without risking their votes. (It will be up to them to prove him wrong by reacting with anger. If they don't, his contempt is deserved.) Second, he has finally come to understand he is heading for a defeat so unimaginably humiliating he's willing to do just about anything to forestall it.

But let's be clear about what this is not. This is not a play for Hispanic votes, any more than his talk on the campaign trail about the lives of African Americans being so terrible is a play for black votes. This is about generating votes among whites—and likely white women—by talking more nicely.

Call it "compassionate alt-conservatism."'


Article here

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 25 Aug 16 - 08:51 AM

Surreal indeed. You couldn't make this shit up.

"Hillary Clinton is a bigot who sees people of color only as votes, not as human beings worthy of a better future," the GOP presidential nominee declared at a rally here [Mississippi] Wednesday night. "She's going to do nothing for African-Americans. She's going to do nothing for the Hispanics. She's only going to take care of herself, her husband, her consultants, her donors. These are the people she cares about."

Trump's accusation, delivered before a overwhelmingly white audience in a heavily Republican state, was a variation of a line he's been using over the last week.

The sharp jab punctuated an unusual and somewhat surreal rally here in the Deep South, where the celebrity businessman was joined onstage by Nigel Farage, the outgoing leader of the United Kingdom's Independence Party. Speaking to audience members who appeared somewhat baffled at his presence, Farage spoke of how he and allies overcame opposition from the political establishment and even a set of foreign leaders that included U.S. President Obama.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-clinton-bigot-rally-nigel-000000682.html

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Aug 16 - 10:50 AM

And the hits just keep coming! Bizarre just doesn't cover it...

Donald Trump's new presidential campaign chief is registered to vote in a key swing state at an empty house where he does not live.

Bannon is executive chairman of the rightwing website Breitbart News, which has for years aggressively claimed that voter fraud is rife among minorities and in Democratic-leaning areas. The allegation has been repeated forcefully on the campaign trail by Trump, who has predicted the election will be "rigged" and warned supporters that victory could be fraudulently "taken away from us".


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/26/steve-bannon-florida-registered-vote-donald-trump

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Aug 16 - 04:35 PM

It is Alt Right with little or nothing to do with conservatism.

After the current immigrant hate campaign runs its course the old stand by hate quake will rattle and bury blacks, Jews, Gay and Catholics in that general order...If Trump wins.

Hearing the hired political female blonde squad for Trump rail against the truth is very Bush like.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Aug 16 - 05:49 PM

And yet ANOTHER crook for Trump!!

Donald J. Trump's campaign has hired Bill Stepien, a former top aide to Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, whose role in the Bridgegate scandal led to his firing and denied him the central role he was expected to play in the governor's presidential run.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Aug 16 - 06:24 PM

Now HERE'S the guy that should be Trump's running mate!

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Aug 16 - 11:10 AM

Ake, a few more interesting facts about that piece of human garbage you think so much of:

'No Vacancies' for Blacks: How Donald Trump Got His Start

......excerpts......
Over the next decade, as Donald J. Trump assumed an increasingly prominent role in the business, the company's practice of turning away potential black tenants was painstakingly documented by activists and organizations that viewed equal housing as the next frontier in the civil rights struggle.

The Justice Department undertook its own investigation and, in 1973, sued Trump Management for discriminating against blacks. Both Fred Trump, the company's chairman, and Donald Trump, its president, were named as defendants. It was front-page news, and for Donald, amounted to his debut in the public eye.

Looking back, Mr. Trump's response to the lawsuit can be seen as presaging his handling of subsequent challenges, in business and in politics. Rather than quietly trying to settle he turned the lawsuit into a protracted battle, complete with angry denials, character assassination, charges that the government was trying to force him to rent to "welfare recipients" and a $100 million countersuit accusing the Justice Department of defamation.

When it was over, Mr. Trump declared victory, emphasizing that the consent decree he ultimately signed did not include an admission of guilt.

But an investigation by The New York Times — drawing on decades-old files from the New York City Commission on Human Rights, internal Justice Department records, court documents and interviews with tenants, civil rights activists and prosecutors — uncovered a long history of racial bias at his family's properties, in New York and beyond.

That history has taken on fresh relevance with Mr. Trump arguing that black voters should support him over Hillary Clinton, whom he has called a bigot.

Complete article HERE

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 31 Aug 16 - 09:29 AM

Yo, Ake!

The Real Clinton Foundation Revelation

By RICHARD W. PAINTER      AUG. 31, 2016


When I was the chief White House ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush, I asked many prospective administration officials if they would sell stock in companies, give up stock options, step down from nonprofit boards or make other painful choices to enter public service. Some balked. I told them that someone more important than I was, perhaps the president or the White House chief of staff, would ask them, "Do you want this job or don't you?"

I know about the difficult questions, and entanglements, that crop up in public service. I believe that Hillary Clinton has asked and successfully answered those questions as they pertain to the Clinton Foundation. There is little if any evidence that federal ethics laws were broken by Mrs. Clinton or anyone working for her at the State Department in their dealings with the foundation. Unfortunately, the foundation is still fuel for Mrs. Clinton's persistent critics.

These critics have yet to point to any provision of the federal statutes or ethics regulations that was violated by Secretary Clinton or her staff in their dealings with the foundation and its principals, agents and donors. ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/31/opinion/the-real-clinton-foundation-revelation.html?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 16 - 04:04 PM

For those of you who know what the October surprise is all about be assured that Trump has a tri pronged surprise that is already set in motion.

With mission impossible aplomb the hot sauce bottle in Hillary's purse will be removed, Carfentanil added in trace amounts and returned.

Fake e mail from Snowden to Hillary is revealed that implicates Hillary tied to Isis contributors.

Clinton Foundation linked to payments to the FBI.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Sep 16 - 03:10 PM

" If we don't watch it we could have Taco trucks on every corner."

NOW THAT AN AMERICA I CAN BELIEVE IN.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Sep 16 - 04:22 PM

Hey Ake!

READ THIS !

It might just save your arse!

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Sep 16 - 07:12 AM

Trump Putince 2016
Make America Russia again.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: akenaton
Date: 10 Sep 16 - 03:27 AM

It seems that Mr Trump may be correct in his assessment of Mr Putin's leadership credentials, as the US have just announced that they are to share security and work with Russia to defeat ISIS.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: saulgoldie
Date: 10 Sep 16 - 05:56 AM

While I do not wish to contribute to more free airtime for yoo-no-hoo, Andy does it again. (A little while ago.)


WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—President Barack Obama defended his decision on Wednesday to issue a payment of five billion dollars to Mexico to compel that nation to retain custody of Donald J. Trump.

The payment, which will be delivered to the Mexican government in hard American currency by Wednesday afternoon, will insure that Trump will remain in Mexico for the rest of his natural life.

"I have been assured by the government of Mexico that Mr. Trump will be well taken care of and, if he proves to be a productive member of their society, will be provided a pathway to Mexican citizenship," Obama said.

While the transfer of funds to Mexico sparked howls of protest from some Trump supporters, it was hailed by congressional Democrats, as well as by over a hundred Republicans currently running for reëlection, including Arizona Senator John McCain.

The President bristled at the suggestion that paying Mexico to keep Trump was "reverse ransom" and an extravagant use of taxpayer money. "There is only one accurate word for this payment: a bargain," he said.

Andy Borowitz is a New York Times best-selling au

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Sep 16 - 09:51 AM

It seems that Mr Trump may be correct in his assessment of Mr Putin's leadership credentials

Same old BS, eh Ake? Well, wait a minute - no, on rflection that's more egregious than usual.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Sep 16 - 10:43 AM

Saul, That was an original hysterical take that never crossed my mind.

If the taxes of the Donald are ever reviewed it will become abundantly clear that Trump is one of the biggest pornographers in the world second only to Vladimir Putin. They both collect money as clearing houses for individual porn studios. The silent partners and shadow companies handle the rest.

Along with his immigrant models indentured servants and the lure of is miss universe scams he is respondsible for an abuse of women that is deeply a part of his soul. Donald shares a common attitude with Mr. Ailes.

None of this should be unbelievable to anyone.

Subject: RE: IS GOD CORRUPT ?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Sep 16 - 11:05 AM

The final proof if God is corrupt will be written in stone if Donald Trump WINS the election.

We will finally know if the God fix is in even if Donald wins the popular vote but loses the electoral college.

To allow a racist hate baiting pornographer film flam liar despot loving narcissistic egomaniacal creep who is globally ignorant to become President of the USA is proof GOD was paid off.

Trump says his all time favorite best seller is the Bible.
>2 Corinthians walk into a bar and God said to hell with that.<

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 10 Sep 16 - 05:01 PM

Here's a surprise from the Harvard Republican Club, and I'm not being sarcastic. I usually stay away from political threads, but a Facebook Friend posted this and I thought it belonged on this Mudcat thread. I am not going to defend the content of this article but am posting to add to information. http://democraticreview.com/index.php/2016/08/07/harvard-republican-club-just-did-this-for-the-first-time-in-their-history-and-t

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Sep 16 - 05:26 PM

No surprise at all. Most Harvard students/graduates are literate and intelligent.

They can recognize a slimy piece of shit when they see one.

Congratulations to the Republican Club are in order.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: akenaton
Date: 10 Sep 16 - 06:16 PM

So no comment on the US govts decision to work with people whom Mrs Clinton reckons are a menace to world peace?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Sep 16 - 06:47 PM

Ake, tell your story walking. And get over your monomaniacal anti-Clinton delusions.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: gillymor
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 07:36 AM

You can pretty much stick a fork in the Donald after the release of the Access Hollywood video and his half-assed video apology last night.

Video and link to article here.

We still have to get to the polls though and encourage others to as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: DMcG
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 07:54 AM

"These words do not reflect who I am". I don't know how many politicians I have head say that. But let's be quite clear: if they were not taken out of context, they do reflect who you are. They are exactly how you behave and think when you are not challenged about it.

You may rethink it later and apologise, either because you genuinely think you were a dolt or because it is expedient to do so, and either says something about who you are as well. But spare us this "It's not who I am" guff.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: mkebenn
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 08:51 AM

I have prayed for his political demise many a time and been disappointed. May be this time? Sunday's debate should be entertaining, to say the least. He wants to attack HRC for hubbies behavior? BRING IT. Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 09:39 AM

You can pretty much stick a fork in the Donald

No such luck. The cochroaches still love him, and WILL vote for him.

"It ain't over till its over".

And even when it IS over, we'll still have millions of pissed-off cockroaches.

Should be interesting.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Charmion
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 10:12 AM

Interesting?

In the Chinese sense of the word, I presume.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 10:17 AM

Eggs-zackerly.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: gillymor
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 10:27 AM

Maybe he can go back to reality TV. Some desperate cable channel might go for "Celebrity Apprentice Groper".

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 12:34 PM

Only in America could talking about it be deemed worse than actually doing it.   Have you forgotten Bill Clintons cigar butts or the Kennedy's serial womanising?....I don't think it made them worse presidents.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 01:00 PM

That's the thing to do - obfuscate when your candidate has been caught being as smarmy as possible:

Blame everyone else.

Suggest that talking about it doesn't have any correlation to his actions.

Keep it up, Ake. See how far you get.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 01:01 PM

Ake, tell your story walking. And get over your monomaniacal anti-Clinton delusions.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: gillymor
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 01:06 PM

"But Billy did it too"
Most people get past that excuse by the 3rd or 4th grade.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 01:36 PM

Quite a few people around here don't, gillymor, and one's even called Billy.

Moving swiftly on...

What is it with these "famous" people that makes them feel so invulnerable?? They're living in a bubble. I've been a bloke who's indulged in a bit Iof locker-room banter in my time but none of my mates would ever have put up with anyone else talking about women in that manner. The fact that he thinks it's ok to do it betrays a massive character defect. We saw it with Rolf Harris and Jimmy Savile, arrogant to a fault, and the behaviour simply shows that he's not fit to be let loose in a fish and chip shop, let alone the White House.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 02:46 PM

Will he no come back again
aaaaaaaawill he no come back again
Oh so well, loved was he
Will he no come back again.


Meanwhile the Hillary Oct surprises by WikiLeaks are yawn worthy.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: meself
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 03:32 PM

Okay, apart from the politics and the misogyny - does anyone else find Donald Trump's manner of speech seriously weird? The way he puts words together makes this whole thing so much creepier ....

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 03:41 PM

You want a diagnosis?

He has little or no empathy just like a social psychopath.
He objectifies the people around him like a social psychopath.
He lies without self knowledge like a social psychopath
Is he a narcissist?
That is the least of it.

I diagnosed organic brain disease in Reagan on TV 6 years before his admission. I was not invited back.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 06:42 PM

I've said all along he doesn't want to win, he wants to make a ton of money running. Seems like he's right on track.

I am officially no longer worried that he might win.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 06:59 PM

Meanwhile in Nottingham (England)...

pub urinal

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 08:38 PM

I also am no longer worried that Trump may win.

But I'm still worried about what his supporters are going to do when he loses. The day after the 2012 election, even his supporters were already saying, "Mitt who?" Don't bet on that happening this time around. There are too many hot-heads among loyal Trumpers.

And I'm worried about the longer term effects of his candidacy and its implicit message that outward expressions of intolerance, even hostility, are acceptable and bear no consequences. The Trump message and style are logical extensions of the lack of civility already inherent in Internet chat rooms and unscripted television. Trump has made it part of politics as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 16 - 08:50 PM

Tender is the foot of civility as it limps through the land of tweets.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Oct 16 - 07:49 AM

Well at least you ladies over 35 know now that you can sleep safely in your beds at night. 😂

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 16 - 10:31 AM

We are left asking

what did people expect?

The Trump SS (shit show) never fails
to entertain.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump again
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Oct 16 - 11:19 AM

I've said all along he doesn't want to win, he wants to make a ton of money running. Seems like he's right on track.

I am officially no longer worried that he might win.

Whether he wants to win isn't the issue, unless he actually pulls out. Or resigns after being elected, as happened with Ukip last week.

The big danger is that if everyone starts seeing him as dead in the water, and stays home or votes Green or something, he could still get elected. It doesn't matter how few people vote for him, so long as Hillary doesn't get the votes to beat him.