Subject: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Mbo Date: 09 Dec 99 - 09:23 PM I believe this great long-running thread needs a second part, the first one's the biggest thread I've ever seen. Let see this one prosper as much as it's predecessor! --Mbo |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Skipjack Date: 10 Dec 99 - 07:14 AM Here's a thought. If a song is trembling your bottom lip, try the Humphrey Littleton cure, and sing it to a different melody. For example, why get choked up during "The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" when you can sing it to the tune of "When I'm Cleaning Windows!" Just a thought. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Liz the Squeak Date: 10 Dec 99 - 07:43 AM Now that is sad - knowing that 'the band played....' goes to 'When I'm cleaning windows'! My saddest song has to be Kate Rusby's version of 'the Recruited Collier', but 'Over the hills and far away' does tend to make the old (hairless) bosom heave somewhat.... LTS |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: kendall Date: 10 Dec 99 - 08:11 AM I find that what I think is the saddest song depends on the mood I'm in at the time. Lately I've been battling depression and Utah Phillips' song The Faded Roses of December is right up there. Also, his, Ashes on the Sea will usually get to me. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: MTM Date: 10 Dec 99 - 09:02 AM Jeff Buckley's "Last Goodbye" is erving the same purpose for me. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Mbo Date: 10 Dec 99 - 09:10 AM I don't know if I've mentioned it before, but Carlene Carter's "Unbreakable Heart" always makes me want to cry. --Mbo |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Skipjack Date: 10 Dec 99 - 09:17 AM Sorry to hear you've been down, Kendall. It's a black tide many are sucked down by, many more than we know. I am battling my own demons right now, and I play a session every night, which is the firewall I need to keep them away. I hope you have this luxury available to you. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Dan Evergreen Date: 10 Dec 99 - 09:25 AM It isn't exactly the same as sad, but a very emotionally moving song for me is "Sweet Rose of Allendale." I cannot always finish the lines, "My life had been a wilderness,/Unblessed by Fortune's gales,/Had Fate not linked my lot to her,/The Rose of Allendale." The same is true of "I'll Take You Home Again, Kathleen", speaking to the universal theme of love and depression. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Bert Date: 10 Dec 99 - 09:49 AM I think that most of us guys get very emotional about The Bobbit song by Tom Paxton. |
Subject: Lyr Add: SADDEST POEM (Pablo Neruda) From: Håvard Date: 10 Dec 99 - 10:01 AM SADDEST POEM (Pablo Neruda) I can write the saddest poem of all tonight. Write, for instance: "The night is full of stars, and the stars, blue, shiver in the distance." The night wind whirls in the sky and sings. I can write the saddest poem of all tonight. I loved her, and sometimes she loved me too. On nights like this, I held her in my arms. I kissed her so many times under the infinite sky. She loved me, sometimes I loved her. How could I not have loved her large, still eyes? I can write the saddest poem of all tonight. To think I don't have her. To feel that I've lost her. To hear the immense night, more immense without her. And the poem falls to the soul as dew to grass. What does it matter that my love couldn't keep her. The night is full of stars and she is not with me. That's all. Far away, someone sings. Far away. My soul is lost without her. As if to bring her near, my eyes search for her. My heart searches for her and she is not with me. The same night that whitens the same trees. We, we who were, we are the same no longer. I no longer love her, true, but how much I loved her. My voice searched the wind to touch her ear. Someone else's. She will be someone else's. As she once belonged to my kisses. Her voice, her light body. Her infinite eyes. I no longer love her, true, but perhaps I love her. Love is so short and oblivion so long. Because on nights like this I held her in my arms, my soul is lost without her. Although this may be the last pain she causes me, and this may be the last poem I write for her. Håvard |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Jeri Date: 10 Dec 99 - 10:29 AM Kendall, don't forget there's a loud-but-friendly session about an hour south of you on Fri evening (as in tonight) starting around 4:30. Great music and great conversation (even if it is during the music.) |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: oldest living folkie Date: 10 Dec 99 - 10:32 AM Saddest song...Stan Rogers "White Squall" |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Metchosin Date: 10 Dec 99 - 11:02 AM Garnet Rogers' tear jerker "Small Victory" is a triumph of compassion for those who need a boost. Always does it for me. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Mbo Date: 10 Dec 99 - 11:48 AM I've just read the lyrics to an old Irish song called "Beneath the Gallows Tree" I haven't heard the tune yet, but the subject matter is very sad. --Mbo |
Subject: Lyr Add: SMALL VICTORY (Garnet Rogers) From: Metchosin Date: 10 Dec 99 - 12:13 PM SMALL VICTORY (Garnet Rogers)
"You've no business buying a mare like that, but buy her if you must." |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: catspaw49 Date: 10 Dec 99 - 01:14 PM That's lovely................ Spaw |
Subject: Lyr Add: THERE'LL NEVER BE PEACE TILL ... (R Burns From: Julie Date: 10 Dec 99 - 01:38 PM The saddest song for me is this old Scottish Jacobite song. Jamie is King James VIII and III, the old Pretender. It also has a haunting tune - I bawl every time I sing it.
By yon castle wa' at the close of the day,
The church is in ruins; the state is in jar,
My seven braw sons for Jamie drew sword,
Now life is a burden that bows me down, |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: kendall Date: 10 Dec 99 - 01:52 PM I'd never heard Small Victory before..wow!! How could such an abrasive boor write such beautiful stiff.?? |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: kendall Date: 10 Dec 99 - 01:59 PM that one that goes, we drifted on home through the public bars, we were ten times less by one... and..I turned around with a lonely glass, and drank to the bar room wall. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Jeri Date: 10 Dec 99 - 02:12 PM Outside Track. (Can't remember who wrote it right now.) How about Eric Bogle's The Cockie? |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: kendall Date: 10 Dec 99 - 02:15 PM Jeri, check your personal thread |
Subject: ADD: What Shall We Drink to Tonight? From: Jon Freeman Date: 10 Dec 99 - 02:25 PM I can't remember who wrote this one (I think it was a Scottish band) but this another one that gets to me. In some ways, I have been there and certainly done the wine bit. The person I learned it from told me he had was going through a split up when he first heard the tune and it took him a while before he was able to sing it. What Shall We Drink to Tonight?
Remember a time not so long ago?
What shall we drink to tonight?
Now that your gone these things I recall
What shall we drink to tonight?
Now that I've heard that you've found someone new
What shall we drink to tonight?
What shall we drink to tonight? Jon |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Metchosin Date: 10 Dec 99 - 02:25 PM Outside Track was Garnet Rogers again. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Metchosin Date: 10 Dec 99 - 02:36 PM Re Garnet's abrasiveness: Maybe he finds it hard to resolve his love for his brother while being overshadowed by Stan's legendary stature. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Metchosin Date: 10 Dec 99 - 02:43 PM The saddest songs of all are Stan's songs 'cause he's not with us anymore.... |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: emily rain Date: 10 Dec 99 - 02:54 PM i haven't waded through all the posts on the last thread, so maybe someone's mentioned "there were roses" already. it took me a week of singing it several times an hour before i could get through it without choking up.
we gathered at the graveside on a cold and rainy day oh, that a minister should ever have to do such a thing just tears me up. also, when i'm feeling sad about my love life, i find myself involuntarily singing "loving hannah". depression is the pits, but i guess it's good for something. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE OUTSIDE TRACK (Henry Lawson) From: lamarca Date: 10 Dec 99 - 03:07 PM "The Outside Track" is a poem written by the Australian poet Henry Lawson, and was set to music by Gerry Hallom, an English singer of Australian songs. Garnet Rogers learned it from Gerry. I sing it putting back the first stanza and final chorus that Hallom left out; it's one of my very favorite sad songs: THE OUTSIDE TRACK by Henry Lawson
There were ten of us there on the moonlit quay,
And the world rolls back, They marry, and vanish and die, But their spirits shall live on the outside track As long as the years go by.
The port lights glowed in the morning mist
We roared "Lang Syne" in a last farewell
Then one by one, and two by two
Final Chorus: |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: kendall Date: 10 Dec 99 - 03:22 PM I was referring to Stan Rogers as a boor, not Garnet, I never knew him |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Metchosin Date: 10 Dec 99 - 05:37 PM Stan was a boor, eh? .....interesting |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Willie-O Date: 10 Dec 99 - 06:11 PM The saddest song of all is seeing teenage Judy Garland singing "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" while knowing that fifteen years later she was a dead junkie. Saw Oz twice this fall. Man...that girl could sing. Bill Interesting that someone mentioned White Squall. First time I ever heard it was on a reel-to-reel in Stan's (former) living room the day of his funeral. (Sorry, this is a particularly ghastly sort of name-dropping, I really didn't have any business being there, just tagged along.) I completely lost it. Never could sing that song, or "Jeannie C." either, after he died. That he was a difficult person is no secret. Every hear Pete Seeger on Woody Guthrie? He says: "Few people who knew him would tell you that Woody was a wonderful person. He wrote wonderful songs...the rest is a bit awkward." Well what a dull repertoire we would have if all male folksingers were sensitive new age guys.... Bill LaMarca thanks for the complete lyrics to Outside Track. Never knew about the first and last stanzas, which Garnet doesn't sing. How's the CD coming? ;>= |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: doug Date: 10 Dec 99 - 06:40 PM is there a tune to small victory? thanks doug |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Darren Date: 10 Dec 99 - 07:02 PM the Lucinda Williams song covered by Emmylou on her Wrecking Ball Cd, "sweet old world", for some reason I think of Kurt Cobain when I hear this |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Metchosin Date: 10 Dec 99 - 07:12 PM Yes Doug and it's as good as the lyrics but I don't know how to get it to you. I also don't know which of his albums the song is from, as someone sent a tape to me and it is just labled "some Garnet Rogers. I do know that it is not on the Outside Track. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: hummer Date: 10 Dec 99 - 08:16 PM How about something we ladies can sing. Somehow, I just don't think I would be believable as a lonely sailor??? *S* |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Metchosin Date: 10 Dec 99 - 08:43 PM How about Tracy Chapman's Fast Car? It almost qualifies as a folk song , at least it will be one 50 years from now. And it sure is sad. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Metchosin Date: 10 Dec 99 - 09:02 PM Also Hummer, why limit yourself to the sterotype of what a woman can sing. Cait O'Riordan didn't with her "I'm a Man You Don't Meet Every Day" on the Pogues album Rum, Sodomy and the Lash. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Jon Freeman Date: 10 Dec 99 - 09:08 PM ...even though her name was "Jock Stewart". It is actually my favourite version of the song but there again I loved the Pogues. Jon |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Metchosin Date: 10 Dec 99 - 09:16 PM me too. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: TheMuse Date: 11 Dec 99 - 12:42 AM I just screwed up and posted to the original Saddest Song instead of letting it fade off into an unused thread . . So I will repeat myself here. Don't know if it's the saddest song, but pretty darned close, "I Can't Make You Love Me" by Bonnie Raitt always gets me. The main line that says it all is: "I can't make you love me if you don't, you can't make your heart feel what it won't" TheMuse
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Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Lonesome EJ Date: 11 Dec 99 - 01:51 AM I asked her once "please tell to me How you got this need for speed?" She smiled and said "it might just be the next best thing to love When hope is gone,and I confess, you finally lay your dreams to rest You can get what's second best, But it's hard to get enough."
She wants to fly, |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Tiger Date: 15 Dec 99 - 09:30 AM I guess I wouldn't have gotten so carried away with this list if you hadn't hit my soft spot - this kind of song has always suckered me in. I'm really a happy guy, though. These are ones from my collection. There are probably lots more, but if they grab me, I grab 'em. The 1 to 5 scale is how they hit me - I'd be interested in your comments. Tearfully.......Tiger
I put this in a special category, 'cause so many people have mentioned it. This song must be heard live to be properly awed, although the CD version is good. Guy unplugs his guitar and moves to the front of the stage (or whatever) to sing solo, as close to the audience as he can get. You'll not hear a footfall or a tinkling ice cube during this song, I gar-own-tee it. It's difficult to express the feelings (maybe 'thunderstruck'?).
Industrial Strength Tear-jerkers (4 Stars)
3-Star Lachrymators
I Think I Can, I Think I Can (2 Stars)
I Get Misty (1 Star)
Not sad, but teary anyway
Just can't leave out my teen tragedy medley |
Subject: Lyr Add: SAM STONE (John Prine) From: Mark Clark Date: 15 Dec 99 - 11:59 AM I think I alluded to John Prine's song "Sam Stone" in part one of this thread but until now I didn't notice that it isn't in the library. Here, then, are the lyrics to what must surely be right up there with the saddest of songs.
SAM STONE - Mark |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: jofield Date: 15 Dec 99 - 03:10 PM "He Stopped Loving Her Today" -- George Jones "Louise" -- by...who? |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: emily rain Date: 15 Dec 99 - 03:23 PM tiger, excellent post. i wish "lachrymate" could be a verb, as in "we should get together sometime and lachrymate the night away..." |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Tiger Date: 15 Dec 99 - 04:25 PM Geez, I missed that Jones one - it's on my list, too. Give it two stars. BTW, is he related to Cleigh? |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Metchosin Date: 15 Dec 99 - 04:44 PM jofield, I have "Louise" on the album Greenhouse by Leo Kottke. The liner notes say it was written by Paul Siebel or Seibel (spelled two ways on the album) and I would agree that it is the running as the saddest song. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: GUEST,Arjay Date: 20 Jan 02 - 08:27 PM Just about the saddest song I ever heard was sung by Ethel Waters, probably in the 1930's. I can't recall the title, but it's a mother singing to her children telling them that daddy isn't coming home tonight. (He's been lynched.) If anyone knows the title, please post it. In a similar vein is "Strange Fruit," sung, I think, by Billie Holiday. It's also about lynchings.
Songs that make me choke up include: |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: Dave Bryant Date: 21 Jan 02 - 09:27 AM Of the songs that I sing, I think currently the one that most affects me is "Home Lads, Home" words: Cicely Fox-Smith, Tune: Sarah Morgan. You can find it (Somehow relocated in India - I never knew Givenchy was that far east) in DT under WHERE THERE'S REST FOR HORSE AND MAN or HOME LADS HOME (click). I think I would also list "The Oggie Man" and "Reunion" by Cyril Tawney, and "Unicorns" by Bill Caddick. |
Subject: RE: The Saddest Song of All--Part II From: GUEST,breezy Date: 21 Jan 02 - 10:07 AM HELLO Dave. When you used to sing Fiddlers Green I used to cry . Cos it took ages. Its sad that we're all still at it, coming round again. Jimmy Newman then when Denver did it on the T.V. It was a Paxton masterpiece and not over romantic. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE SHORTEST STORY (Harry Chapin) From: SharonA Date: 21 Jan 02 - 10:16 AM For me, the saddest song is "The Shortest Story" by Harry Chapin, who fought hard against world hunger. It's the story of what happens during a famine: THE SHORTEST STORY by Harry Chapin I am born today, the sun burns its promise in my eyes; Mama strikes me and I draw a breath and cry. Above me a cloud softly tumbles through the sky; I am glad to be alive. It is my seventh day, I taste the hunger and I cry; My brother and sister cling to Mama's side. She squeezes her breast, but it has nothing to provide; Someone weeps, I fall asleep. It is twenty days today, Mama does not hold me anymore; I open my mouth but I am too weak to cry. Above me a bird slowly crawls across the sky; Why is there nothing now to do but die? © Copyright 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001 The Harry Chapin Archive. All rights reserved. |
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