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Lyr Req: Miller and the Lass

Chris Seymour 12 Dec 99 - 11:39 PM
Chris Seymour 12 Dec 99 - 11:47 PM
Chris Seymour 12 Dec 99 - 11:48 PM
Bruce O. 13 Dec 99 - 12:32 AM
Stewie 13 Dec 99 - 06:47 AM
Bruce O. 13 Dec 99 - 12:15 PM
Snuffy 02 Feb 01 - 05:35 PM
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Subject: Lyr Add: MILLER AND THE LASS (from Eliza Carthy)
From: Chris Seymour
Date: 12 Dec 99 - 11:39 PM

DigiTrad has a version of this seduction song, but the version I'm currently in love with is sung by Eliza Carthy on "Rice" (the acoustic half of her double CD, "Red Rice"). (Her lyrics are actually less explicit than the version on DT.) I have transcribed most of the words from the recording, but there are a couple of holes. Has anybody figured out what goes in the brackets below?

Thanks for any help.

Chris Seymour

P.S. Presuming I fill these holes, I'd like to post this alternate version to DT for others to reference -- how do I do so with this or any other set of words?

CS

"THE MILLER AND THE LASS," Trad.
As sung by Eliza Carthy on "Rice."

There was a buxom and a brisk young lass
Went down to the mill one day, Oh
To get some corn all for to grind
[...] devil of it [...] miller could she find
Singing tum num doom dum day

At last the miller boy he did come in
And this young girl she did begin
"I've a peck of corn all for to grind
But I can't stay, I've got very little time."

"Come sit you down my sweet little dear
I cannot grind your corn, I fear
For the stones is high and the water's low
And I can't grind for the mill won't go."

So she sat down on a sack
And they talked of this and they talked of that
They talked of love of a [...] kind
And she soon found that the mill would grind

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 14-Jul-02.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Miller and the Lass
From: Chris Seymour
Date: 12 Dec 99 - 11:47 PM

Here it is again -- first time I posted it the returns got deleted somehow...

Chris

There was a buxom and a brisk young lass Went down to the mill one day, Oh To get some corn all for to grind [....] devil of it [.......] miller could she find

ref:Singing tum num doom dum day

At last the miller boy he did come in And this young girl she did begin "I've a peck of corn all for to grind But I can't stay, I've got very little time"

"Come sit you down my sweet little dear I cannot grind your corn, I fear For the stones is high and the water's low And I can't grind for the mill won't go"

So she sat down on a sack And they talked of this and they talked of that They talked of love of a [.....]kind And she soon found that the mill would grind


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Miller and the Lass
From: Chris Seymour
Date: 12 Dec 99 - 11:48 PM

OK -- I've put hard returns in between lines, but they keep disappearing. Don't remember this before -- what's up here?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Miller and the Lass
From: Bruce O.
Date: 13 Dec 99 - 12:32 AM

See ZN956 in the broadside ballad index at www.erols.com/olsonw for 17th century broadside and traditional versions.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE MAID GAED TO THE MILL (from MacColl)
From: Stewie
Date: 13 Dec 99 - 06:47 AM

Ewan MacColl did a fine version on 'The Wanton Muse'. He described it as 'a defiant assertion of the right to be wanton' that 'is a central theme in Scots literature'. His source was the singing of his father, collated with some verses from David Herd. The mixture of dialect and English is as it appears in the lyric sheet:

THE MAID GAED TO THE MILL

The maid gaed to the mill by nicht
Hey, hey, sae wanton!
The maid gaed to the mill by nicht
Hey, sae wanton she
She swore by a' the stars sae bricht
That she should hae her corn ground
She should hae her corn ground
Mill and multure free

Then oot and cam' the miller's man
Hey, hey, sae wanton!
Oot and cam' the miller's man
Hey, sae wanton he!
He swore he'd do the best he can
For to get her corn ground
For to get her corn ground
Mill and multure free

He put his hand about her neck
Hey, hey, sae wanton!
He put his hand about her neck
Hey, sae wanton he!
He flung her doon upon a sack
And there she got her corn ground
There she got her corn ground
Mill and multure free

When other maids gaed oot to play
Hey, hey, sae wanton!
When other maids gaed oot to play
Hey, sae wantonly!
She sighed and sobbed and wouldna stay
Because she'd got her corn ground
Because she'd got her corn ground
Mill and multure free

When forty weeks were past and gane
Hey, hey, sae wanton!
When forty weeks were past and gane
Hey, sae wantonly!
This lassie had a braw lad bairn
For gettin' o' her corn ground
Gettin' o' her corn ground
Mill and multure free

Her mither bid her cast it oot
Hey, hey, sae wanton!
Her mither bid her cast it oot
Hey, sae wantonly!
It was the miller's dusty clout
For getting' o' her corn ground
Gettin' o' her corn ground
Mill and multure free

Her faither bade her keep it in
Hey, hey, sae wanton!
Her faither bade her keep it in
Hey, sae wantonly!
It was the chief o' a' her kin
Because she'd got her corn ground
Because she'd got her corn ground
Mill and multure free

Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger 'The Wanton Muse' Argo LP ZDA 85.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Miller and the Lass
From: Bruce O.
Date: 13 Dec 99 - 12:15 PM

Ewan MacColl also sang the Scots song on Tradition TLP 1015, but that's unrelated to the one requested.

"The Miller and the Lass", without music is in Reeves 'The Idiom of the People" and with music in Purslow's 'The Constant Lover' (6 verses) That quoted above is slightly differrent, and in the first verse we have:
A sack of corn she had to grind,
But there no miller could she find.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Miller and the Lass
From: Snuffy
Date: 02 Feb 01 - 05:35 PM

The Maid Gaed Tae The Mill, from the singing of Ray Fisher and Cilla Fisher, is in the DT database with a tune. When you play the tune in the download version, a different set of words appear. Here is the first verse of the DT version:
The maid gaed tae the mill ae nicht
sae wanton, sae wanton
The maid gaed tae the mill ae night
Hi sae wanton she
The maid gaed tae the mill ae night
She swore by moon and stars sae bricht
That she would get her corn grun'
Mill and multure free
But the words in the download's Songwright file have a different verse structure. This appears to be the same as the Ewan McColl version posted by Stewie
The maid gaed tae the mill the nicht
    Hey, hey, sae wanton
The maid gaed tae the mill the nicht
    Hey sae wanton she
She swore by all the stars sae bricht
That she should hae her corn ground
    She should hae her corn ground
    Mull and multure free

His version on Black and White - the definitive Ewan McColl collection, COOKCD0338 (1990) is identical except that he sings 9 months in place of 40 weeks. The sleeve notes give McColl's own thoughts on the song:
"This song belongs to the end of the first quarter of an all-male drinking session or at the end of the third quarter of a mixed party. It has a nice blend of sly bawdiness calculated to make the not-so-young remember incidents they thought they had forgotten. I learned it from my father."
McColl's tune is similar (but not identical) to the one in the DT. Is that the Fisher tune with McColl's words, or someone else's tune altogether?

Wassail! V


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Miller and the Lass
From: Wolfgang
Date: 05 Feb 01 - 07:12 AM

Many of the the lyrics from Red Rice including Miller and the lass are here.

Wolfgang


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