BS: reign of terror

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 02:50 PM

As Trump said ( so of course you all disagree):


In a later tweet he commented on the efforts. "Peaceful protests are a hallmark of our democracy," he wrote. "Even if I don't always agree, I recognize the rights of people to express their views."

But since you state Trump is wrong in all things, and should not be given the chance that Obama was ( wrong color skin, I guess), this must not be true.

What a bunch of political bigots!

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: robomatic
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 02:53 PM

Steve Shaw, you writted:
Not my rant, mate. Just a copy 'n' paste! I left you to do the ranting once you'd read it.

so you're saying you hopped, and I popped? ;-)

BTW if you read my post thoroughly you'll see that I noted your contribution was a "re-post". Just a re-post of somebody ELSE's nonsense.


Welcome to Trumpnation!

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: beardedbruce
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 03:01 PM

As for "revolution", this is from UPI:

"According to a Sisters March website, more than 5 million people around the world took to the street on all seven continents in 637 cities around the world.

The idea for the protests began as a Facebook post by a Hawaii grandmother the day after Hillary Clinton's loss in November's election. They called for a "revolution" against the new administration and the Republican-led Congress they fear will roll back reproductive, civil and human rights."

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 03:05 PM

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They have every right to protest- and when they cross the line into illegal acts, they should be arrested and charged. "
And when they have, they will - I doubt if asny will be charged with sedition for provoking civil war.
Only a supporter of extremism describes protesting as civil war, so where exactly are these insurgents?
"" like instigation of hate and distrust against a massive majority of the American population " LIKE THOSE who voted for Trump?"
If Trump's policies are as I described them, those who support them are guilty of supporting attacks on the majority of the population of America - what's your point in repeating what I have just said?
"Pot? Kettle?"
I've said this to your running mates - I will make a large donation to any named charity if you can show that I have ever at any time attacked or criticised the Jewish people as a whole - I expect the same response from you as I have received from them - silence!
The only antisemites on this forum are those who associate the crimes of Israel with the Jewish people as a whole - you are looking in the wrong direction pal - try a mirror
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 04:45 PM

...as in James Herriott's Yorkshire Veterinary stories, once again, the resident "mass of dogs was hurtling round and round the lawn..." with the occasional cat making periodic claims to territory.

Before Siegfried and Tristan's resident dog pack wheels around the surgery into view again,
let me remark on the commuter style First Lady.
This is the sort of thing that regular ordinary constituent/citizens mutter about. What kind of First Lady is not a full-time First Lady, installed on Pennsylvania Avenue, with or without children? I don't participate in local coffee klatches hereabouts, but I can just picture the ladies, and the occasional husband, contrasting the First Missus of the moment with Ladies of the past administrations.
I seem to recall -- for me this is hard to recall -- that Jackie Kennedy had very recently suffered a difficult pregnancy and the loss of the baby, but was expected to buckle down and be part of the regime, and she did that, when her husband's term began.

Maintaining the family home outside of the White House while the President is in the White House...what First Lady has done that before? Seriously, am I missing something?

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 04:58 PM

You called my post a rant, which it wasn't. The only rant came in your response. The post was a response to the claim that only the protesters were being violent. In view of US foreign policy since WWII l found that rather laughable. You may not like the source or the statistics. That's fine. So tell us what's wrong with them. Responding like you did in a somewhat petulant, defensive and childish manner as you did seems to suggest that you're in denial of the depredations of the US in other people's countries down the decades. Really?

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: robomatic
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 05:56 PM

JC:
I've said this to your running mates - I will make a large donation to any named charity if you can show that I have ever at any time attacked or criticised the Jewish people as a whole - I expect the same response from you as I have received from them - silence!
The only antisemites on this forum are those who associate the crimes of Israel with the Jewish people as a whole - you are looking in the wrong direction pal - try a mirror
Jim Carroll
Methinks thou dost protest too much. It's one of your favorite subjects, how bad they are and how much you don't don't like them.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: gillymor
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 05:56 PM

Signs seen at the Women's March on Saturday from the Washington Post.

From the article:

-I Wish My Uterus Shot Bullets So the Government Wouldn't Regulate It

-This P—- Grabs Back

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: robomatic
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 06:00 PM

Steve Shaw:

You basically re-tweeted a charge of multiple genocides accused against my country. Done up as a 'report'. The height of fake news. I already responded the kind of logic your citation used. It's up to you to justify that unlikely source.
Go hop on another pop.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 07:14 PM

Rubbish. First, it wasn't a tweet. I've never done a tweet in my life, in fact I don't know what one is. Second, there is no accusation, either in the article or in my head, of genocide. To be honest, if you want to have sane discussions with people here, you seriously need to ditch your defensiveness, stick your stars'n'stripes in the bin, grab a dictionary and try a little harder to be objective. Otherwise, just move on.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 08:06 PM

"Methinks thou dost protest too much"
Methinks you sling your accusations from distance and anonymity and refuse to substantiate them - cowardly and dishonest - two for the proce of one
My offer stands - refuse to take it you and you are a lying antisemite who, despite the clause which specifies that one of the definitions is associating the Jewish people with the actions of Israel, does so whenever Israel is criticises - an antisemite by definition
It's about time this forum got rid of hate-mailers like you - you lower the tone.
Still waiting for one of you people to show how protesting against a misogynistic, racist thug with Russian Mafia connections is seditious and tantamount to "a reign of terror" and attempting to start a civil war, but can't manage to hold my breath much longer.
In Trump's Brave New America maybe, but not yet!!
Still waiting to hear from Ake how being homosexual is threatening family values but encouraging men to "grab women by the pussy" is good, wholesome upholding support of teh family - but don't thinnk we'll ever sort out that particular enigma
What a viciously pathetic crowd you are - not to mention dangerous
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 08:14 PM

"You basically re-tweeted a charge of multiple genocides accused against my country"
UNTRIED WAR CRIMES
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: robomatic
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 08:56 PM

Jim Carroll: Wind him up and watch him go!


In another thread headlining your favorite topic you got contentious in very much the same words that I drew out of you by merely suggesting 'Pot? Kettle?' Then you posted some extremely nasty song lyrics which were meant to be racist, apparently to tick off some people you were baiting in that thread. Relax, it's not illegal (at least not in the United States, we have a whole amendment about it). But it is suggestive.

You remind me of Rush Limbaugh and his 'thing' about black people. It's like catnip to him, he couldn't keep away from broadcasting songs about Barack Obama being 'magic'.

It's a subject you come round to at the drop of a hat and with no self criticality whatever. Pretty demonstrative IMHO.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: robomatic
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 09:05 PM

Oh, BTW Jim Carroll:

A big thank you for completing Steve Shaw's point. Earlier in this thread he posted without linking to the site what was basically an accusation that the United States had killed millions of people over the years in many wars. It was a large number of millions akin to the kind of death rate the Soviets in Russia and the Chinese Communists under Mao imposed on their own people via starvation and 're-education'. When I noticed that part of the deaths attributed to the United States were actually done by the Khmer Rouge on their own people (and I consider that genocide), Steve acted all innocent 'who me? I didn't mean that!' But in fact you Jim have provided a link to the same source as what Steve was quoting and in a different article they no-doubt-about-it accuse the U.S. of multiple genocides.

Game. Set. Match. Thanks for the help, Jim!

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 09:23 PM

What a load of old bollocks. Of course I linked to it - I don't know how to do those blue jobbies here but I gave you more than enough to find the source in a trice, which you clearly did. You seem unable, quite likely out of your very defensive denialist patriotism, to focus on what we are saying here. What China or Russia did, terrible as it was, has absolutely nothing to do with this. Tell us what's wrong with either the sentiment, or the statistics, or both, of the points in the link, and you'll have to do a damn sight better than constantly rattling on about the Khmer Rouge when it comes to accounting for all the multifarious sins of your country over seventy years, won't you? That's the second time I've asked you to do that. You're out of your depth, aren't you?

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Jan 17 - 09:25 PM

Hey, Jim - "Game. Set. Match." Who does that remind you of? 😂

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 03:06 AM

El hijo de puta presidente de los estados unidos ya empezo a quitarles los derechos a las mujeres. El boludo, pelotudo concha de su madre!

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 03:35 AM

Robo
You are no different from any other genocide apologists -
"He hit me harder sir" harks back to the schoolyard fights and makes not one iota of difference and is a pathetic excuse.
Genocide is genocide, whoever carries it out.
We watched nightly on our screens, reports of your B52s having dropped burning petrol on Vienamese peasants, or dropping carcinogenic chemicals on their fields in order to starve them into submission - you were even killing off your own pilots with the filth you sent them to drop.
This was a LIFE CHANGING PHOTOGRAPH of my younger days.
You want to admit your lot were just as bad as Stalin - fine - we have agreement, but don't hide behind others to lessen your war crimes.
And still you refuse to qualify your accusations of my "anti-semitism"
Fine by me - a reminder if the pieces of work we are dealing with and a confirmation of the type of people who put Trump where he is
Jim Carroll.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 03:38 AM

"Hey, Jim - "Game. Set. Match." Who does that remind you of? 😂"
Tim Henman and Andy Murray, unfortunately
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 05:15 AM

OK, Jim. I lose...

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 08:03 AM

Yeh you DO lose Steve and Jim. To be more accurate you lose Mudcat its membership. Millions of people voted for Trump - they can't all be morons and losers.

'What a viciously pathetic crowd you are - not to mention dangerous'

You're so damn sure you're right you say stuff like this.

And such rudeness alienates a hell of a lot people

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 08:10 AM

Mr. Red
We live in an age of safe zone censorship, Realist news and the myth of agenda free news living side by side. Spin used to be a pivot, but now spins at centrifuge speeds faster than the speed of sound.

Just a thought but it seems to me everything has an agenda associated with money. Exactly what is agenda free? Even trashy romance novels have an agenda. ( tap that) In jest even porn has an agenda.

I don't think an intelligent agenda free newspaper exists either BUT if it did it wouldn't be very good. If it existed I think it would NOT   taste very good. It would probably taste like a gluten free, sugar free, fat free, flavor free cookie.

Trump should own a newspaper and a TV network. We could call it distraction News network. DNN

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 08:58 AM

" Millions of people voted for Trump - they can't all be morons and losers."
Do I really need to repeat the example of the Nazi majority in Germany?
You judge a politician by what he is and intends to do, not by how many supporters he has.
How do you feel about your wife or daughters (if you have any) being regarded as "pussy fodder"?
If I lived in the U.S. I would feel extremely disturbed by it - over here, I'm just outraged - and I'm staggered when I hear he has supporters for his obscene attitude to women over here.
How about a national leader with links to the Russian Mafia and who has been accused of employing a killer in one of his companies - happy about that?
"And such rudeness alienates a hell of a lot people"
And support for this walking penis alienates the decent ones
Why don't you people ever address what Trump says and what he stands for - do you really support it?
If you do, I'm over the moon to have alienated you.
I've just been told that our loval priest has sung Trump's praises from the pulpit because he is anti "Pro-choice" for women
Apparently he has no problem with a world leader who regards women as available meat
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 09:11 AM

Chill out, Al. You've been getting more and more vitriolic and rude yourself recently. No-one here has said that everyone who voted Trump is a moron and loser. And I was gratuitously attacked by robomatic for putting up a link and he has yet to explain what was so horribly wrong with it that I deserved to be furiously shatupon. My point was that it's a bit rich criticising people for violence as they demonstrated against a very unjust election result that put an ignorant thug into the Oval Office. They were throwing stones and breaking windows. Give Trump a week or two and he'll be championing the gun lobby, threatening God knows who this time with nukes and shooting at Mexicans. Violence, often in other people's countries, is the sine qua non of US administrations. Is it OK if I say that it's very naughty to throw stones and break a few windows if I ignore all the rest?

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 11:29 AM

Jim Carroll you still can't help 'telling' on yourself:
"Admitting that my lot is no different than Stalin?" - Only worlds!
Your link to a life changing photograph. I know that photograph without even clicking that link.
I very much described all along my feelings for your racial antipathy. I don't believe I used the word once in this thread but your awareness gives you away.

I am in fact more anti-Trump than you lot (Jim, Steve) because you both share Trump's tactic of re-framing reality to sow confusion and disinformation. I attempt to retain some sanity and proportionality while you both join the shouting contest, which simply affirms lung-power and who via retirement, joblessness, or adhesion to their key-pad can keep returning to the same thread before it dwindles out of sheer shapelessness.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 11:46 AM

"I very much described all along my feelings for your racial antipathy"
Only someone with an agenda would describe my feelings as "racial"
I do not blame the American people, I blame the establishment who waged a fourteen year long war on a third world country.
American students were shot down by the National Guard for protesting the war.
You are defending U.S. establishment atrocities as you defend those of the Israeli regime - we can't condemn them without being labeled racist - a cowardly defence for an atrocity.
I take your opposition to Trump with sceptisism, especially as you accuse us of "sowing disinformation - how have we done that?
Sanity my arse - it sounds like appeasement to me - pretty much the "ignore him and maybe he'll go away" approach adopted by Britain prior to WW2.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 11:46 AM

Your attempt appears to be failing.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 12:10 PM

Tag-teamed by Jim Carroll and Steve Shaw!

Poh-TAY-toh Poh-TAH-toh

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 12:17 PM

"Tag-teamed by Jim Carroll and Steve Shaw!"
Don't you mean "kicked up the arse by.....?
I think you'll find we cross-posted anyway - get somebody to read what Steve responded to for you
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 12:20 PM

Yes, my response was directed at robomatic. I usually check for cross-posting straight away but I was busy cooking my pan of chilli, as per recipe in chilli thread.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 12:31 PM

Again the tag-team. Way cool!

The principle here is that telling folks how hypocritical they are is generally useless, along the principle that incompetent people don't know they are incompetent and think they're doing just fine. Just ask Trump what a good job HE'S doing and he'll tell you.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 01:11 PM

"Again the tag-team. Way cool!
Again we have no answer from you on either your claims or accusations
Evasion and diversion beats making an eejit of yourself, I suppose
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 01:19 PM

Tag-team now, is it? Now what justification do you have for implying that Jim and I are in league in any way, shape or form? Jim, when's the last time you and I exchanged private messages? Buggered if I can remember. I think you might have warned me once about a troll in about 2009... What you see with me and Jim out here in public is what you get and all you get. Just because you're neurotic, mate, it doesn't mean we give a shit about being out to get you. Sheesh!

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: robomatic
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 01:22 PM

Tag-Team the Third. Beginning to sound like a Tom Clancy opus.

The incompentence thing is called The Dunning-Kruger effect. They had to give it a name. Like Trump. Like Idiocracy.

Here in America it's three and out. Ta Ta me buckos!

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 01:37 PM

I don't like Trump. Creepy, to me at least.

But i don't think rudeness and abuse ever won an argument. Do either of you think calling someone 'viciously pathetic' is going to win anyone's heart and mind and make them think. I prefer Janis Ian's reasoned statement on facebook.
Janis Ian
January 21 at 2:27am ·
In the past 48 hours I have been told to "get over it" and "suck it up" by more than 100 people on my own page.
Here is my response. I will continue to post as many political comments and memes as I like. I will also continue to post as many free downloads, funny photos, and interesting quotes as I like. Why? Because this is my page.
This is also my country. My grandparents did not watch their families slaughtered by Cossacks and gutted by so-called Russian "patriots", then WALK across Russia and Ukraine, endure unimaginable hardships, and finally arrive at the Statue of Liberty - and then learn a new language, a new way of life, a new way of government - so I could give up the right to dissent.
That is why my family came here. That is why my grandfather bagged groceries and my grandmother ran a boarding house and my other grandmother took in mending. That is why my father went into the service and then to college on the G.I. bill, why my mother took night courses, why everyone and everything in my family was geared toward thinking and questioning and moving forward. So that I, a second-generation American, could, through merit and hard work, become "the American dream".
So here is my answer to those of you who would normalize what is happening around us right now.

Dear James (and Elizabeth, and Harold, and all the rest) -
Thank you for posting. I appreciate your suggesting that I now "let it go" and "suck it up" because "like it or not, he's our president." (Or in the case of all the Australians and New Zealanders chiming in for some reason, "he's your president now.")
All right! Which part would you like me to let go of? Shall I drop the "grab pussy" part? or maybe the "gay people need conversion therapy" part, since Pence said it, not Trump?
How about the Muslim registry, so wonderfully reminiscent of that bright yellow star my forebears had to sew on their coats? Or maybe I should heed Trump's statement "It's cold in New York - we need global warming".
Wait. I can suck it up and try to forget the part where he dodged the draft, then said of John McCain "I like people who weren't captured" Wouldn't that be patriotic?
And as a Jersey girl, I could just "suck up" and "let go" of the part where he said "thousands and thousands of people" in Jersey City were cheering as the World Trade Center buildings fell.
Wait, I know! Let's forget freedom of the press, his veiled threats to allow White House briefing access only to periodicals that agree with him. Suck on that, you liberal swine. Maybe I can also let go of the part where he threatens newspapers with changes in the libel laws, so he can sue them - and I can suck up to the National Enquirer, owned and run by Trump's dear friends.
Wait! My grandparents were always terrified they'd have to prove they had a right to be in America, so even though it was always illegal to require it, they carried their "papers" with them everywhere. Yeah, if there'd been a Jew Registry, they could already have been counted.
How about I about I let go of him saying "An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that Barack Obama's birth certificate is a fraud"? Or when he said Mexico would pay for "the wall", except now we have to front the money?
Or my personal favorite, the part where he promises and promises to release his tax returns if he's elected....
C'mon, James. Which part should I let go of first?
No no no!!! I take it all back! I want to let go of this part, because somehow, I can't un-hear it. I can't un-see it. And I sure as hell can't "suck up to it":
"I did try and fuck her. She was married. I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look. I've gotta use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything… Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." Donald J. Trump
Nice. Go after married women. Cheat on your first two wives (at least). Kiss someone who doesn't invite it and consider yourself a "magnet". How presidential.
Yes, folks. I'll "suck it up" and "let it go". When hell freezes over.
You don't like it? Get off my page.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 01:48 PM

brava, bravissima

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 02:42 PM

"Tag-Team the Third. Beginning to sound like a Tom Clancy opus."
All we got at this end is the sound of running feet
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 02:42 PM

Yebbut they won't have got off her page. That's the trouble. She's only talking to me and you, k.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 02:43 PM

We keep doing this, Jim. 😂

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 05:21 PM

Big Al my grandparents faced the similar horrors as yours. Herded west and slaughtered by the Russians only to then be exterminated by the Nazi death squads. My dads parents came to America after more than half of the family were already murdered. They settled in Boston and their kids had to face neighborhood squabbles with the Irish. Being adopted I was a tow head with blue eyes and my wife is Irish. The violence done to our predecessors was not due to religion or looks, it was done by Tyrants and dictator's policy and new laws to take property.

Trump doesn't like criticism, no tyrant does. It is up to the Republicans to enforce the Constitution where Donald has already broken the Emollients clause.

You are right about the meme out there that says let it go, get over it and Ignore that press conference and Ignore that Women's March.
Ignore the super ego maniac behind the curtain. Ignore the defeat of any thing that helps the poor middle class and expands the treasure of billionaires.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Elmore
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 05:42 PM

Attn:Keberoxu Thanks for your concern. My wife is home and doing quite well.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 06:11 PM

And thank you, Elmore, for a touch of humanity in between the
"fighting like cats and dogs" discussion
which has pattered on little feet over to this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Janie
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 07:07 PM

Mrzzy, I participated in the Raleigh, NC march.

I'm glad I did. While it was a diverse crowd, it was a predominantly white crowd. Most of the diversity was with respect to age.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 07:16 PM

The Trump team looks like he is outfitting a pirate ship.
Can't wait for the new missile parades in DC
Russians feel very at home here.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 17 - 07:32 PM

ORWELIAN OXY SOMA AND BOOZE USERS - are Trump states

With a few exceptions like Wisconsin Minnesota and Texas the most users of Oxy are i States that went for Trump.

If you watched the night of 100 stars, scratch that, the night of 7 stars at the Inauguration party you saw Toby Keith with his greatest hits like;
Get My Drink On, Get Drunk and Be Somebody, Nights I Cant Remember, Red Solo Cup, Walk It Off, Rum is the Reason, Cold Beer Country, I like Girls That Drink Beer and many more.
I know Trump doesn't drink but the songs are for his base.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jan 17 - 09:22 AM

As for terror,

Many complain about Trump's comments on a Gold Star family. What do you say about physical attacks on them by anti-Trump protestors?





Amy Looney, who lost her husband Navy SEAL Lt. Brendan Looney in 2010, and Ryan Manion, whose brother Marine First Lt. Travis Manion died in 2007, said they were attacked as they tried to enter the American Legion's tribute to Medal of Honor recipients at the Veterans Inaugural Ball.

"Unfortunately, as we got there we found ourselves separated from the rest of the group walking to the galas that night and were caught in between the entrance to the event and about 75 protesters that got very angry with us and really converged on us," Manion said on "Fox & Friends."

That's when events quickly escalated.

"We were pushed by a man in a mask hiding his face," Manion wrote in The Philadelphia Inquirer. "Our clothes were drawn on with permanent marker by other 'protesters.' And we were called the most vile names I have ever heard as we entered and exited the venue."

Manion said that she and Looney – who operate the Travis Manion Foundation – did not attend the ball for political reasons and that the pair support President Donald Trump just as they "supported the previous administration and just like we will support every future administration that the American people elect."

Looney and Manion were initially late to the ball because they couldn't get through "an angry mob in the street that was burning trash cans and smashing windows," Manion wrote on Facebook. When they eventually got near the entrance a group of around 75 people tried separating them from the ball. It was as the two women walked through the crowd that people began pushing them and yelling insults.

"We understand more than most how fortunate we are to live in a country where we can demonstrate and share our different beliefs," Manion wrote. "But my question for those who chose to take this route Friday is this: Are you truly accomplishing anything by inciting hate?"

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 25 Jan 17 - 10:02 AM

More distortion - what about the threat to large sections of the American population by Trump's declared policies?
He has announced that today will be "security day", that a Berlin-type wall will be built between the U>S> and Mexico and that "alien" criminals will be deported.
He has also stated that numbers of visitors from Muslim countries will be severely restricted.
He is proceeding on a racist basis, as he stated he would.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 25 Jan 17 - 10:05 AM

I suppose its beyond hope that you will ever respond to the threat his savagely misogynistic attitude poses to American women, especially as you have described protesting against such a threat as 'Incitement to Civil War'
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jan 17 - 10:35 AM

You mean the attitude as demonstrated by Bill Clinton, that the LIBERALS in this country thought was just fine? It's OK to rape poor people, according to the Clintons- Just look at how HRC defended her husband's actions- NOT WORDS, but actions.

Subject: RE: BS: reign of terror
From: beardedbruce
Date: 25 Jan 17 - 10:36 AM

100- and the terror is by Liberals.