BS: The Alternative Facts Thread

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: DMcG
Date: 18 Mar 17 - 11:12 AM

It seems Ms Feltner didn't seem to stop and think either.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Greg F.
Date: 18 Mar 17 - 10:31 AM

Some of the genius Trump voters are finally starting to wake up -   OOOPS! TOO LATE!! Hope they're happy with their lot.

Think they'll learn from the self-inflicted wounds?

Hardly.

Trump Budget Cuts Put Struggling Americans on Edge
By SABRINA TAVERNISE and TRIP GABRIELMARCH 17, 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/us/trump-budget-cuts.html?

One of many cuts in President Trump's new budget proposal that would inflict the deepest pain on the most vulnerable Americans — a great number of whom voted for him.

"I understand what he's trying to do, but I think he's just not stopping to think that there are people caught in the middle he is really going to hurt," said Ms. Feltner, 57, who was a nurse for 25 years and voted for Mr. Trump.

Do read the whole article.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Mar 17 - 09:59 AM

Under the circumstances, Mrs Merkel acquitted herself pretty well, I thought.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: gillymor
Date: 18 Mar 17 - 09:41 AM

This isn't even adult behavior let alone presidential behavior. The national embarrassment continues.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Stu
Date: 18 Mar 17 - 08:09 AM

Blimey. Trump's and Merkel's presser and posing for the cameras was one of the most embarrassing things ever seen in international politics. Not only did he admit to the US tapping the German chancellor, he also admitted to getting his 'facts' from Fox News, the news equivalent of persistent diarrhoea and as we all know, a right-wing mouthpiece.

The sight of Trump not only refusing to even look at Merkel or meet her gaze as they sat in front of the cameras was one thing, but deliberately ignoring here when she asked if he wanted to shake hands was simply pig ignorant. Of course, his inferiority complex must have been on Defcon 1 being in the presence of an intellectually superior (Merkel has a PhD in quantum chemistry), internationally respected and very experienced world leader. The fact that world leader is a woman must have rattled his toddler's cage good and proper.

What a shocker.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Mar 17 - 08:23 PM

The State Dept. has lost 30% of their budget and all experienced personelle.

You will hear of hard power in contrast to State Dept soft power.
This is a hypnosis trick. It is designed to make the masses expect war as an expression of power and strength.


----------------

A billion dollars equals 2 war planes.

And to think we were on the verge of curing all flu for half a billion.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Greg F.
Date: 16 Mar 17 - 04:06 PM

And nopw Trump - who "love[s] the poorly educated" and the Trumpists ushering in the era Dumbfuckatrumpistan want to be sure that they STAY poorly educated:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/324230-trump-budget-proposes-entirely-eliminating-national-endowment

See also Public Broadcasting and objective fact - the "enemy of the people".........

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: gillymor
Date: 12 Mar 17 - 11:06 AM

Yep, with the AHCA, which is basically a massive roll-back in health coverage for the poorer and older members of society and a massive tax cut for the wealthier members of society, it should be obvious to Trump supporters that they've used their "dirty hands" to grab their ankles for Donal-Jerk, his wealthy friends and the GOP but, sadly. it probably isn't. Yet.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Greg F.
Date: 12 Mar 17 - 09:06 AM

It seems that the Press and the Public is becoming inured to the mendacity, hubris and hypocrisy that emanates from the Oval Office:

And then there are the Trump supporters that don't have the intelligence God gave to the turnip:

***

Trump supporters in the heartland fear being left behind by GOP health plan.

Janice Phelps, a 60-year-old disabled factory worker in Evansville, Indiana, knows how expensive healthcare is... [but] Medicaid and Medicare, which aid the poor and the elderly – paid for nearly all of it.

Yet, those programs are now threatened by the men she voted for: Donald Trump and former Indiana governor Mike Pence. Dramatic changes are just part of the reforms in a Republican bill leaders are trying to force through Congress at lightning speed.

Though Phelps said she would support Trump even if it passed, she is upset by the idea of Medicaid cuts.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/12/republican-healthcare-trump-pence-medicaid-indiana?

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: gillymor
Date: 11 Mar 17 - 12:40 PM

It seems that the Press and the Public is becoming inured to the mendacity, hubris and hypocrisy that emanates from the Oval Office:

'The Labor Department on Friday released a strong jobs report showing the US economy added 235,000 jobs in February. During his White House press briefing later in the day, Spicer was asked about Trump's previous claims that positive job reports under the Obama administration were "phony or totally fiction."

"I talked to the president prior to this, and he said to quote them very clearly. They may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now," Spicer replied, prompting laughter from reporters in the room.'

Article here

Donal-Joke has turned the office of the Presidency into just that, a joke.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: gillymor
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 07:34 PM

Donal-Jerk just can't stop lying. Chrissakes this guy is the President of the United States of America, Un-fucking-believable! Leading the Free world in 140 characters or less. From USA Today:

"Trump said that "122 vicious prisoners, released by the Obama Administration from Gitmo, have returned to the battlefield. Just another terrible decision!" However, more more than 90% of those detainees were released during the George W. Bush administration, not that of Obama."

Story here

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 09:48 AM

Trump loves BOOBS.

AND "the poorly educated", remember.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 07:03 AM

The Trump White House needs you to be a BOOB - Believe Obey Or Betray.
Trump loves BOOBS.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: gillymor
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 06:16 AM

They called JFK's cabinet "The Best and the Brightest" but between the unqualified crackpots, billionaires and Wall Street hands Donal-Jerk seems to have recruited "The Worst and the Warped".

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 11:28 PM

The 25th amendment can remove Trump for having a pathological lying condition that is clearly effecting Donald on a daily basis.

Trump is now more incapacitated than Reagan with his Alzheimer condition. I know the defense arguments but they can not prove their case without exposing conspiratorial illegal acts.

This would be the most compassionate way to deal with Trump.
Every other alternative is more humiliating, dangerous and ruinous.

This is also the plot of my story The Trump Mutiny.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 10:56 PM

Gillymor, I did not know about the pyramid grain silos and the captured Africans by the Arabs in the east and western Africans kidnapped by Britain then Americans were actually immigrants thirsting for the American dream.

There is a phrase for alternative facts, reality and humanity, it is 'fucked up'.

OJ Simpson may get out of jail this Fall depending upon how his parole board rules. In this political climate perhaps he will finally expose the real killer as Obama (the Kenyan who impersonated the President of the United States). Trump got away with lying about a birth certificate, maybe OJ will get away with it too.
I bet Trump would love it. You see, Obama stole and wore OJ's shoes but wore his own gloves. very clever Barak, and to think you almost got away with it.


All kidding aside, did you know Trump's grandfather Fredrich Trump was deported from Bavaria? They have found his desperate letter of reconsideration to the King of Bavaria.   Surreal revenge?

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 10:05 PM

Neither being a brilliant surgeon or batshit crazy excuses him from being an ignorant fool.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 08:38 PM

Brilliant surgeon and bat-shit crazy director of HUD thinks slaves were immigrants with a dream:

Alternative facts here

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 01:14 PM

Its time to use the 25th amendment before it is too late

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 11:27 AM

Give me some credit, Steve, out of deference to your refined palette I did not direct you to a picture of the slathered carcass.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 11:14 AM

I was hoping you wouldn't do that to me.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 11:06 AM

The WaPo link seems to have expired, here's a different site:

Click here

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 10:59 AM

Duff link, gillymor. If it was a pic of a burnt steak with ketchup all over it, I'm glad.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 10:53 AM

Not just well-done, Steve, but slathered in ketchup as well.

Click here

It's getting increasingly difficult to find the humor in this situation as evidence of T***p's derangement continues to grow.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 10:43 AM

Even more embarrassing is the revelation that the SCROTUS likes his steaks well done! Oh, the ignominy!

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 08:15 AM

FBI director James Comey, obviously no friend of the Democratic Party, has, in effect, labeled Donal-Jerk's allegation that former President Obama wire-tapped Trump Tower an "Alternative Fact":

Story here

Twit's smokescreen has got Russiagate talk off the front pages but has damaged his own credibility, assuming he had any left, as well as the integrity of the office he holds. The National Embarrassment deepens.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Mar 17 - 05:39 PM

"Donal-Jerk, SCROTUS." I love it!

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Greg F.
Date: 03 Mar 17 - 09:58 AM

Creating this hate-list will do nothing except provide official government sanction to the opinions of white supremacist groups and the alt-right.

You got some kinda problem wid dat? Dis is Trumpistan.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: gillymor
Date: 03 Mar 17 - 09:51 AM

One of the most disturbing parts of Donal-Jerk's speech the other night occurred when, with one of the clumsiest acronyms you'll ever see, he announced the formation of VOICE (Victims Of Immigration Crime Engagement) based on an Alternative Fact:

(from the article) "Singling out the crimes of immigrant communities serves no legitimate public safety purpose, since immigrants are actually less likely to commit a crime than non-immigrants. Likewise, 56 percent of all deportations occur without the incidence of any crime committed whatsoever, and less than 12 percent of deportations involved what most would call a "serious crime" or class 1 offense. Anyone trying to justify increased deportations with immigrant crime are arguing against themselves, because the vast majority of deportations have nothing to do with serious crime. Creating this hate-list will do nothing except provide official government sanction to the opinions of white supremacist groups and the alt-right."

Story here

The Trump/Bannon regime are setting up a phony scapegoat just as the Hitler/Goebbels regime did in the previous century. How long before we see a modern day Kristallnacht.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Mar 17 - 01:51 PM

Trump - via Nathan Bedford Sessions - to Black folks: Screw You!

Mar 1, 2017

Attorney General Sessions announced a major policy change yesterday that will likely have broad and real consequences for people of color around the country. At a meeting of state attorneys general on Tuesday, Sessions said that the Justice Department would "pull back" on the federal scrutiny of police departments for civil rights violations against people of color. The new attorney general was dismissive of police perpetrated shootings

At a time when an alarming number of African Americans are dying in police custody, Sessions' speech served as evidence of a "further break" from the Obama-era Justice Department, which investigated several law enforcement departments and pressed reforms.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: gillymor
Date: 02 Mar 17 - 11:04 AM

Jeff Sessions offered up some AF's, i.e. lies, regarding his contacts with the Russians during his confirmation hearings:

Story here

Why did both Sessions and Flynn lie under oath about contact with the Russians, it leads one to think there is some there there. At the very least Sessions needs to recuse himself from the investigation into the Russian involvement in the election and ideally he should resign or be fired as Top Cop. It's time for a Special Prosecutor and time also for both the heads of the House and Senate Intel committees, both advocates for the administration, to recuse themselves as well.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 08:42 PM

I represent only the people who voted for ME

The White Ethno-State designed by Bannon is the new Republicanism. They are even the new CPAC.


BARAK OBAMA WAS WRONG

Donald Trump is ideological.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 07:44 PM

Nobody is more unanti semetic than me
No one tells the truth more than me
CNN is terrible They are fake news.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 07:35 PM

I didn't think there was an accusation of plagiarism but I am sensitive about the issue since school when a baseless accusation was made over my creative writing that followed me for years.

It was a tract written without spaces. You had to mentally make your own spaces but the trick was if you started from the first letter you read one story but if you started from the fourth letter it was an entirely different story. It was a very time consuming and intensive work that turned to ashes in my mouth.

I do not think that form of writing even exists in English so how could I have plagiarized? Perhaps my verbal expression did not match my writing. Nothing was known of dyslexia back then.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Greg F.
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 05:19 PM

Ah yes! "Outside agitators". Trump must have got that from Nathan Bedford Sessions - he's probably nostalgic for 1963.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 04:10 PM

We are all betraying traitors,
outside agitators
and infiltrators

according to Trump
if you protest.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Greg F.
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 05:06 PM

YIKES! Donuel, last thing I meant to imply was plagiarism - was offering support from another source.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 02:25 PM

I swear to god I have never seen those words, nor did I plagiarize.

Although I could use a rewrite.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Stu
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 11:18 AM

Climate scientists are deeply concerned about the future of their science, and themselves: Climate scientists face harassment

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 11:07 AM

We used to say blood and sand at school, Stu. That other one was my gran's.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Greg F.
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 10:52 AM

I think you'll find THIS on point, Donuel

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Stu
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 10:45 AM

According to Yahoo Answers:

"Blood and Sand (1922) is a silent movie produced by Paramount Pictures, directed by Fred Niblo and starring Rudolph Valentino, Lila Lee, and Nita Naldi. It was based on the Spanish 1909 novel Blood and Sand (Sangre y arena) by Vicente Blasco Ibáñez. There is an earlier version of Blood and Sand (1916), filmed by Blasco Ibáñez himself, with the help of Max André. The "torero" die in arena with blood and sand."

Interesting stuff!

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Stu
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 10:40 AM

I'm not sure where the phrase comes from. Hold on, I'll have a look.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 10:37 AM

I have given several minutes of thought as to how to tell a very young or innocent child that needs minority protection in America that Their President does not like them or will not help them feel safe?

You don't. Instead you tell them that laws/rules were made by some very frightened people who think creepy thoughts because they are basically scared people.

Dress and pee&poop just like everyone else and let the scared people feel as safe as they need to feel when they pee&poop. If those people are only thinking about you needing to pee&poop it is they who have a creepy problem, not you.

The scared people may call their reasons common sense but it is neither common or sense to have their creepy thoughts and fear.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 10:33 AM

Blood and stomach pills, me Salford gran always used to say.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 10:29 AM

"Blood and sand"
Thought that was a Rudolph Valentino film Stu
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Stu
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 10:27 AM

Blood and sand Jim, give it a bleedin' rest will you.

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 10:15 AM

"VN has insulted me on several occasions, without response."
Do you wonder why?
Talking down to people is not advice - it is talking down to people
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Greg F.
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 09:43 AM

You can thank Nathan Bedford Sessions for that one, Stu, and you ain't seen nuthin' yet!

Subject: RE: BS: The Alternative Facts Thread
From: Stu
Date: 23 Feb 17 - 09:22 AM

Heading back into dark days, Trump now going to heap misery in innocent transgender folk: Trump administration rescinds Obama-era protections for transgender students

That's just being nasty, plain and simple.