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Lyr Req: Norwegian Lyric ... Nystev

Shimmering 07 Mar 17 - 09:24 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Norwegian Lyric ... Nystev
From: Shimmering
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 09:24 AM

Hello all, I don't know whether anyone can help me with this. I'm listening to Arve Moen Bergset's nystev, and trying to get the lyrics. Nystev are often very short traditional songs from Norway, often or usually in dialect.

Here are links to him singing this particular nystev, first as a child:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLEvic28ICs

And later after his voice has broken. He sings several stev here, it's the second one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZHdV_lZrmM

This is what I think, but there are some bits I don't get. Any Norwegian speakers able to help out here?

I Vinje socken er håge nutar    (In Vinje parish there are high hills)
Å kjempe karer å gasta gutar   (And fit lads and strong boys)
Man ås ur vetten der gåsen ti   (???)
På Kongsberg marken der gjeng en fri   (At Kongsberg market where one walks free)
På Kongsberg marken der gjeng en fri

Å bøgran ligger på håge hampar (And ??? is on the high ??hemp??)
Å gutane liksom graute stampar (And the boys have porridge?)
Dei skynder upp å dei skynder ne (They hurry up and they hurry down)
Å styvne er dei å ande te (And they are stupid and ??)
Å styvne er dei å ande te


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Norwegian Lyric ... Nystev
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 08 Mar 17 - 06:56 AM

I'll have a listen when I get a minute.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Norwegian Lyric ... Nystev
From: Shimmering
Date: 08 Mar 17 - 12:32 PM

To partly answer my own question ... the first verse I am told is:

I Vinje socken er håge nutar    (In Vinje parish there are high hills)
Å kjempe karer å gasta gutar   (And big lads and strong boys)
Men Åsulv Æddan er god som ti   (But Åsulv Edland is as good as ten)
På Kongsberg marken der gjeng' han fri   (At Kongsberg market he goes freely)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Norwegian Lyric ... Nystev
From: Mysha
Date: 08 Mar 17 - 05:30 PM

Hm, if it's really marke_n_, are you sure it's "the market" in the dialect of the stev? I would have read it as field, or similar. Market I think of as "marked".

Bye
                                                                Mysha


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Norwegian Lyric ... Nystev
From: Shimmering
Date: 08 Mar 17 - 06:49 PM

Thanks. Yeah, Kongsberg marken is a thing ... https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kongsbergmarken

It's a "winter market" but maybe this would actually be better translated as fair.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Norwegian Lyric ... Nystev
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 14 Mar 17 - 06:08 AM

Had a proper listen now. Plus some help from a guy in Rjukan, Telemark, who I go ice climbing there with! It's an old Telemark dialect, hardly used any more, according to him, and he had to get his granddad to listen too. However:

I Vinje sokn der hugen hutar,
og kjempekarar og gasta gutar,
Men då på vetteren er god si tid,
På Kongsbergmarken der gjeng en fri.
(Unclear line)
Og bøgra ligge på hoge hampar,
Og gutan er liksom grautestampar,
Deg kinnar upp og deg kinnar ned,
Og styvne er deg og ende te.....

Loose translation:
In Vinje parish the men and boys are waiting for the Kongsberg winter fair (market, literally, but as Shimmering says, the Kongsberg Winter Market is something more akin to a fair). Because then they have time off and are free to do as they like. (Unclear line). (Someone) is laying with high expectations, but the boy is acting like a porridge stirrer ("masher" would be more literal, but I've never heard of a "porridge masher" in English!). Making movements up and down. And he still has a hard one....

(My friend's...and my...understanding of the last bits are that it's all related to...probably unfulfilled... sexual hope and expectation).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Norwegian Lyric ... Nystev
From: Shimmering
Date: 15 Mar 17 - 06:21 PM

Many thanks for this.

It does seem to be in a pretty obscure dialect. And it maybe feels a bit silly to try to sing it without knowing what it all means.


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