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BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs

FreddyHeadey 02 Apr 17 - 06:23 PM
RTim 02 Apr 17 - 07:45 PM
RTim 02 Apr 17 - 08:18 PM
GUEST,RA 03 Apr 17 - 06:58 AM
Bonzo3legs 03 Apr 17 - 07:40 AM
Steve Gardham 03 Apr 17 - 12:52 PM
GUEST 03 Apr 17 - 03:37 PM
Bonzo3legs 03 Apr 17 - 04:12 PM
GUEST,Peter 03 Apr 17 - 05:29 PM
Steve Shaw 03 Apr 17 - 07:40 PM
GUEST,Guest 03 Apr 17 - 07:51 PM
RTim 03 Apr 17 - 07:54 PM
FreddyHeadey 03 Apr 17 - 08:47 PM
GUEST,Guest 04 Apr 17 - 06:24 AM
Steve Gardham 04 Apr 17 - 09:04 AM
GUEST,Andy M 04 Apr 17 - 12:19 PM
Steve Gardham 04 Apr 17 - 01:26 PM
GUEST,Andy M 04 Apr 17 - 04:04 PM
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Subject: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 06:23 PM

Who Wrote the First Folk Song?
BBC radio3 2nd April 2017

Includes a few minutes with Steve Roud.
Web page includes the playlist though they only play clips.

".... Where do they come from? 
Enlisting the help of ethnomusicologist and folk singer Dr Fay Hield and folklore expert Steve Roud, Tom Service embarks on a quest to the very origins of music. It's a journey that takes him back in time from modern-day folk clubs to the origins of the species (via rural Lincolnshire in the early 20th century)."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08kyb3t 


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: RTim
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 07:45 PM

If the clip I listened to about Shallow Brown is an example of the scholarship in the programme - I don't trust it all. His brief review of what Shallow Brown is about - is - IMHO - totally wrong.................I guess, if I can, I should listen to the whole thing, not a clip!!!

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: RTim
Date: 02 Apr 17 - 08:18 PM

Context Context Context......Sing what you want, when, where you want - it's Folk Music.

Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: GUEST,RA
Date: 03 Apr 17 - 06:58 AM

A quick glance at the playlist (which includes some great selections) reveals that Scotland is under-represented and Northern Ireland, shockingly, appears not to be represented at all! Come on, 'BRITISH' Broadcasting Corporation - sort it oot!!! Is it any wonder that many of us up here and over there want off of this sinking ship?


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 03 Apr 17 - 07:40 AM

Dr Fay Hield was excellent as always, very clued up indeed.


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 03 Apr 17 - 12:52 PM

Nothing new presented there. At the same time very little to disagree with. Well done for a well-balanced account of what it's all about. There was no need to include/exclude any region as that wasn't the point of the programme. All the points being made were universal.


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Apr 17 - 03:37 PM

'There was no need to include/exclude any region'.

Scotland and Northern Ireland (and Wales for that matter) aren't 'regions' - they're nations!


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 03 Apr 17 - 04:12 PM

How pathetic


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: GUEST,Peter
Date: 03 Apr 17 - 05:29 PM

"Nothing new presented there."
Same with any TV or radio show on a subject that you know in depth.

We weren't the target audience


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Apr 17 - 07:40 PM

I thought it was very good. Mind you, as a player of mostly Irish traditional tunes, I had no particular axe to grind. It was an exploration that steered well clear of the didactic. That'll do me.


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 03 Apr 17 - 07:51 PM

Er!

Who is Tom Service?


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: RTim
Date: 03 Apr 17 - 07:54 PM

Look him up on the Internet............


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 03 Apr 17 - 08:47 PM

Some links would be good Guest,guest.
And one for yourself.


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 06:24 AM

Links ??

Thought they were seaside golf courses.

But don't understand the freddy post.


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 09:04 AM

Apologies for misusing the word 'region'. I'll restate the bleeding obvious. There was no need to include/exclude any nation.

Peter, agreed. it wasn't a criticism.

The title is somewhat daft, but it wasn't what the programme was really saying anyway.


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: GUEST,Andy M
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 12:19 PM

I enjoyed this programme, and can't understand the 'we're not the target audience' comment. I listen to Radio 3 a lot, and can enjoy stuff like the Delius and Grainger now, when once I wouldn't have. I loved the snatch of Shirley Collins.


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 01:26 PM

You can only say that last comment in certain places, Andy. Be careful where you say it!


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: GUEST,Andy M
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 04:04 PM

Ooops! Or maybe I'm just so pure of thought? To clarify... I greatly enjoyed even so brief a moment of Shirley Collins 'Brigg Fair'.


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: GUEST,Peter
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 04:53 PM

"I enjoyed this programme, and can't understand the 'we're not the target audience' comment. "

@AndyM, the programme was pitched at a lower level of expertise than I would expect to find here.


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 04 Apr 17 - 05:30 PM

By sheer coincidence just spent a whole evening with Tom S. recording stuff about the folk scene in Hull for Radio 3. We got on very well. He is a good interviewer and knew his stuff.


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 05 Apr 17 - 02:47 AM

Qué raro... creí que le ibas a pedir el teléfono de luz jaj!!


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Subject: RE: BBC r3 Tom Service on Folk Songs
From: GUEST,Joe G
Date: 05 Apr 17 - 03:57 AM

I always enjoy his programmes. He is currently on Radio 3 every Sunday at 5 talking about different aspects of music and regularly features on Music Matters at 1215 on Saturdays


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