BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 May 17 - 04:38 AM

"Waste of nice butter if you ask me!"
Chacon a son gout Sen
"500"
Happy birthday
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 May 17 - 05:08 AM

"I suspect the root cause was we had originally booked for five, then had to cut back to two, but no-one told the cream-provider"

That's a damn good ploy is that. I'll be using it in future!

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Iains
Date: 21 May 17 - 05:38 AM

http://www.yoism.org/images/mushr.GIF

I wonder to what extent partaking of mind expanding drugs created early religions? Graham Hancock's book the Supernatural is a good intro.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sacred_Mushroom_and_the_Cross
John Allegro stirred up a storm around 1970 with his book.

http://blog.crazyaboutmushrooms.com/quetzalcoatl-mushrooms-mushrooms-mesoamerica/

Official religion offers tales of visions that are legal, get one from a magic mushroom and off to jail you go.
Ridiculous or what?

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Stu
Date: 21 May 17 - 05:55 AM

"I only support "diversity" when it can be proved beneficial to society and certainly not in matters pertaining to sexual health."

Odd how you fixate on that. Actually, it isn't at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Senoufou
Date: 21 May 17 - 06:13 AM

I do think, in 'Last Tango in Paris, they could just have used cheap margarine. (One of those ghastly 'spreadables' perhaps) And used the butter for a nice toasted post-coital crumpet. With Marmite.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: akenaton
Date: 21 May 17 - 06:21 AM

If you find my statement odd Stu, then you yourself must be extremely odd. There is a huge epidemic going on within the MSM demographic, an epidemic which if transferred to the heterosexual demographic, would mean the collapse of society.

That you do not appear to care about this, or at best attempt to sweep it under the carpet, strikes me not as "odd" but as an acute case of ideological blindness.

You questioned my views on "diversity", I answered you honestly, my kind of society requires proof of the beneficial nature of proposed change......."better no deal, than a bad deal"

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 May 17 - 06:24 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 May 17 - 06:25 AM

Adds a whole new dimension to the question "are you trying to butter me up?"

Margarine and low-fat spreads are completely banned from our house. If you don't like butter you're wrong.

I love the way we're sticking strictly to the topic, by the way. Low-fat spreads are sheer heresy, as is putting jam on top of the cream on your scone.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 May 17 - 06:39 AM

Can someone tell another joke and prevent ache from turning this into one of his hate threads
The man/woman (probably hasn't been able to make up his/her mind), is an obsessive hate merchant
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Senoufou
Date: 21 May 17 - 06:44 AM

Same in our house Steve. No semi-skimmed milk, revolting fat-free yoghurt or filthy non-buttery spreads. We buy Kerrygold Irish butter, full milk, pots and pots of double cream and Rachel's gorgeous creamy yoghurt. Not to mention lovely mature cheddar cheese.

I tell myself it's for my husband. 'He needs the calcium'. (Even if he's lived in UK for many decades and his bones are now solid and strong!)

I suppose the Thread Drift Police will be knocking on our respective doors soon, closely followed by the Anti-Cholesterol Brigade.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Senoufou
Date: 21 May 17 - 06:47 AM

My sister tells me a...er...certain part of the anatomy has been called the Marmite Tunnel...
She's awful. Not pure and innocent like me...

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: akenaton
Date: 21 May 17 - 06:49 AM

I was responding to Stu's remarks in both my recent posts Jim.
The exchange was initiated by my questioning of the "liberal" attitude to "diversity" when applied to religious faith.

Now go back to sleep and stop making personal inferences about someone you have never met and know fuck all about.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 21 May 17 - 06:58 AM

I'm quite happy with the Flora or whatever (special offers can influence the choice of brand) we get but butter does appear once in a while. I think Pip prefers it if she has some baking in mind. Once in a while a pack of butter can wind up in more "general circulation", a recent example being a pack of Lurpack slightly salted. I think these days I'm probably more "it's a pleasant change" rather than anything more.

Of course there was a time when I felt differently. I think it was Stork years ago when 9/10 people supposedly could not taste the difference and I thought it was awful stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Senoufou
Date: 21 May 17 - 07:12 AM

I make lovely sponge cakes and always use only butter for the fat component.
It also goes into mashed potato (with added cream), and I add cream to my home-made curry 'to thicken the sauce'.
I personally think that natural foods are far better for one than synthetic ones with chemicals added.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 May 17 - 07:32 AM

i used to love Stork, before they put it in tubs.

four slices of sunblest, two toasted.
covered in stork and a can of heinz beans.
then the other two bits of bread into sandwiches to mop up the juice and the beans that had fallen off the toast.
nice cup of tea!

by god! we knew how to live in them days...

and he we are drinking our chateau de chatillon....

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Donuel
Date: 21 May 17 - 07:38 AM

Amanita enlightenment is a poor substitute for Amazonia Psilocybe Cubensis.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 May 17 - 07:58 AM

""liberal" attitude to "diversity""
Perghaps you might make your point a little more succinctly if you discontinued your spitefully vicious, agenda-driven misuse of the term "liberal"
If you are going to refuse to enter into open debate, the least you can do (for your own benefit as well as the topics) is stop erecting protective barriers by calling names.
All levels of political thought have now long kicked the idea of capital punishment into touch - left, centre and right, religious agnostic and atheist..... so attempting to apply Anne Coulter's stupidly reactionary label to non-political subjects such as this is destructive and (from your point of view) self defeating.
I have little doubt that your behaviour is based in insecure protectionism so why not try logical argument instead - to are you still too busy to be arsed??
You've been given enough solid opinions to get your teeth into, in return, you offer nothing
"Diversity" has to be based on a sharing of opinions - you offer name-calling as a substite
"Marmite Tunnel..."
Always disliked Marite - you've just confirmed my dislike
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 May 17 - 08:03 AM

See! look what you have done now. Got ake all worked up with your talk. You know how he fixates about anal sex.

Joke time.

Went to the docs the other day and he gave me some suppositories. I took the full course but for all the good they did I may as well have shoved them up my arse.

Oh no. I may have set him off again...

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: akenaton
Date: 21 May 17 - 08:20 AM

Well Jim, even you should understand that this issue has nothing to do with support or derision of an outdated law, and everything to do with a "liberal" agenda to destroy the church and its perceived socially conservative stance.

This agenda is advanced by people who laud the ideology of "diversity" in all things.....except, evidently the right to hold a religious faith.

As I tried to explain to Stu, diversity must be seen to be working positively before I give it unconditional support.
I cite the dangers inherent in Unregulated Immigration, Multiculturalism in place of full integration and promotion of minority sexual practices which result in huge health problems.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: akenaton
Date: 21 May 17 - 08:31 AM

Regarding "open debate" no one on this forum can engage with you in debate while you continue to repeat abuse like Racist, Fascist, Homophobe. these words were designed specifically to stop and silence debate......they are a disgusting example of "liberal" double standards.
You mention "hatred", well nobody hates like a "liberal" scorned...or defeated in debate.
I offer this sector of Mudcat as incontrovertible evidence.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Pete from seven stars link
Date: 21 May 17 - 08:44 AM

Certainly agree with that Ake . Though not universally applicable , there are certainly a few on here that resort to labelling , mocking or abusing posters that don't agree with their ideological position , should they dare to question it at all

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 May 17 - 09:09 AM

Little boy goes into the frozen food shop and says to the man "My mum says can I have a packet of Birdseye Pissoles please mister."

Man frowns, then smiles: "Ah, I know what you want, little boy, but try to remember that it's an r, not a p!"

"OK, mister, my mum says can I have a packet of Birdseye Arseholes please!"

Oh no...

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 May 17 - 09:36 AM

I offer this sector of Mudcat as incontrovertible evidence.

Oh, FFS you pretentious pillock. Have we learned a new word today? 'This section of Mudcat' is called BS for a reason and it is complete twaddle such as yours that supplies as much evidence as any self appointed judge, jury and executioner would ever need.

We have you pegged. Mind you, maybe that is what you you could do with...

What's the difference between anal and oral sex?

Oral sex makes your day. Anal makes your hole weak.

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: akenaton
Date: 21 May 17 - 11:08 AM

I sometimes wonder about people like Dave, how do they co-ordinate their ideology to their words and actions.
Joe pointed the same thing out earlier regarding his views on religion.
He seems to feel a need to punish those who dare to contradict his world view and the lower he can stoop to do so the better.

Strange sort of animal to be sure.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Iains
Date: 21 May 17 - 11:16 AM

Donuel.If you wish to travel further as a space cadet beyond the reach of Amazonia Psilocybe Cubensis I recommend the following if you can find them, but it may not fit your belief system. I am afraid I cannot identify the genus of the little mushrooms

"
Exodus 16:14 And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground.
19 And Moses said, Let no man leave of it till the morning.
20 Notwithstanding they hearkened not unto Moses; but some of them left of it until the morning, and it bred worms, and stank: and Moses was wroth with them.
21 And they gathered it every morning, every man according to his eating: and when the sun waxed hot, it melted.
23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
24 And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein.
31 And the house of Israel called the name thereof Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey."

There is no mention of a subsequent trip away with the faerys after feasting upon them.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 May 17 - 11:18 AM

"these words were designed specifically to stop and silence debate.."
No they weren't
They were designed to describe schools of thought and all are applicable to statements you have made
THey are not words I use lightly - you wear your homophobia like a tee shirt - you refer to homosexuals as disease carriers as if heterosexual sex, or smoking, or drinking or diving clapped out old cars didn't involve health risks - you target a lage section of the population who are naturally what they are and describe their life style as being, unnatural, voluntary and a risk to the rest of us - homophobic persecution to a tee and an attitude I hope to se made illegal in my life time, just as being homosexual has become legal.
Yor racism and Islamophobia are just as obvious - there aren't many member of this forum who have openly supported forcing refugees to wear edification which has drawn both abuse and actual assaults - you chose to sneer at those of us who found the practice offensive
Your fascism became open wen you threw your weight behind Trump and his li'l darlin', Anne Coulter who you first presented as a serious journalist, then back-pedalled madly in the face of links to some of her outrageously right-wing statements, claiming she wasn't serious - Klansman, David Duke summed her up perfectly as the nearest thing to his own politics.
If you don't want to rise up with fleas, don't go to bed with dogs.
I don't think I need repeat your advocating that we listen to what mass murderer Breivik had to say   
How dare you comlain about my summing you up as I believe you to be when you are happy to hurl your own sneery abuse, lately in the form of your deliberate misuse of "liberal" double standards" - I am neither liberal nor do I have double standards - I am a socialist who is prepared to hold up my analysis of the term (largely based on my life-long interest i the subject)
Your claimed socialism bears no resemblance to anything I have experienced, nor does it first any of the book definitions I have come across - National Socialism certainly, but that's apples and bananas as far as the established and accepted definition goes.   it appears to be as self defined as your "liberal"
You appear to be totally incapable of accepting what you dish out - you whine about being insulted yet are happy to insult and sneer at anybody who opposes your somewhat singular ideas - your adoration of Trump, your hatred of homosexuals - your use of the phrase "remoaners"   
Your own double standards take some beating - you call on the site overseers when a joke about taking out Trump is made, yet promote a vicious American broadcaster who advocates poisoning "Liberals"
THings might be different if you had the balls to back your outlandish beliefs with proper argument and evidence - when asked to, you say you are "too busy" - but your shortage of time doesn't seem to effect your hit-and-run hurling of toxic stink bombs.
This is a debating forum - so have the bottle to debate or stay away
As it stands, you are an unpleasant mixture of an anonymous cyber stalker and a troll
You can accuse me of many things, being wrong being the top of the list, but everybody knows who I am and where to find my work and I always link to the source of my opinions when asked - I would consider myself a coward if I didn't
My behaviour may be over the top on occasion but I never set out to be offensive and I am happy to apologise when it has been shown that I have
Clean up your act Ake - I've tried to clean up mine
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Raggytash
Date: 21 May 17 - 11:45 AM

Senoufou, I'm sure I would love your cooking, a kitchen without copious amounts of fresh cream and butter are best avoided. Fresh bread, home baked of course and lots of salt.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 May 17 - 11:48 AM

look at it another way JIm

Ake doesn't believe in gay marriage.
Ake likes Donald Trump.
He wants to get out of the common market.

1. You never offered to marry him anyway.
2. Neither of you are in a position to vote for Mr.TRump.
3. A lot of people were pissed off with the common market, and got called all kinds of things. the whole discussion was marred by abuse.

just have a McVitiies chocolate digestive and forget it.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: akenaton
Date: 21 May 17 - 11:59 AM

Apologies Jim, the words were not specifically designed to silence debate, but they have neatly fallen into such usage in place of intelligent debate.

For example you say I am homophobic for branding homosexuals "disease carriers" I have never once in my many years of posting here used that term to describe homosexuals. To infer that I have done so is an outright lie, one to add to your other distortions of my views.   The facts on MSM and sexually transmitted diseases are printed by all the reputable health agencies and are almost identical for the US and UK If you disagree with those figures you should complain to PHE or CDC.
"Smoking, drinking and driving clapped out old cars" are not being promoted as safe and healthy, in fact all are being rapidly phased out or criminalised......you appear to support the promotion of what is evidently an extremely dangerous type of minority sexual behaviour.

Dont take my word for it.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 May 17 - 12:00 PM

"Senoufou, I'm sure I would love your cooking,"
We'll all be around tonight - what time and shall we bring wine?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Senoufou
Date: 21 May 17 - 01:06 PM

Oooooh how lovely! Please all come!

Menu:-

Chicken fillet pieces, mushrooms, onions, garlic, organic tomatoes, sultanas, NO Scotch bonnet chillis, (husband adds them later, they take one's head off!) salt and coarsely-ground pepper. All lightly sauted with Sharwood's curry powder, then cream added. Served with basmati rice.

Victoria sponge (jam and cream) OR buttered crumpets OR Scotch trifle (plenty of sherry in)

Hands off my bottle of Old Speckled Hen (bring yer own!)
Mango juice, lemonade and ice cubes (husband's tipple)
All instruments welcome, except bodhrans.
Don't trip over the Siamese cats!

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Greg F.
Date: 21 May 17 - 02:16 PM

Dont take my word for it.

No worries, Ake.

No one with even a pretension to intelligence would take your word for it.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 May 17 - 02:31 PM

Aaaaaattiéké poisson! Aaaaaaagouti!

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Senoufou
Date: 21 May 17 - 02:40 PM

Hahaha Mrrzy! Mon epoux dit, "Moi j'adore APF!"

On ne trouve pas les agoutis dans le Norfolk UK!

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 May 17 - 02:57 PM

"All instruments welcome, except bodhrans."
Sounds like heaven
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Greg F.
Date: 21 May 17 - 06:57 PM

"All instruments welcome, except bodhrans."

And/or banjos.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 May 17 - 03:19 AM

"And/or banjos."
Go easy - what if she runs out of fuel for the stove?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Senoufou
Date: 22 May 17 - 03:24 AM

Oi! I absolutely adore banjo music!
(Herd of Mudcatters rushing for the door and jumping into their cars, squashing swans as they roar out of the village in panic.)

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 May 17 - 03:50 AM

"Oi! I absolutely adore banjo music!"
Me too - but I prefer it from The Southern Mountains
They don't seem to have them around here in our nightly session - I think they are confiscated at the checkpoint
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 May 17 - 07:03 AM

I sometimes wonder about people like Dave, how do they co-ordinate their ideology to their words and actions.
Joe pointed the same thing out earlier regarding his views on religion.

I guess you must have a link to where that happened then, ake? If so, please provide it or we can safely assume that it is just another example of your nonsense.

Good luck with that.

D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Stu
Date: 22 May 17 - 08:04 AM

"There is a huge epidemic going on within the MSM demographic"

Excuse my ignorance, but what does "MSM" stand for?



"That you do not appear to care about this, or at best attempt to sweep it under the carpet"

Well, I care very much about people and don't care much for intolerance or ignorance. Don't assume to know my mind Ake, it betrays an arrogance and is rather condescending.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Senoufou
Date: 22 May 17 - 09:01 AM

Just a general observation, but when a Certain Person keeps on and on about something, and brings it up at every opportunity, using the same old acronym and the same old vitriol, it's a bit similar to 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'. One begins to wonder if actually, it's become an obsession for the simple reason they're fascinated and strangely attracted by the phenomenon, and are struggling with themselves about it.......

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Donuel
Date: 22 May 17 - 09:38 AM

Iains - sounds like a rotten rye mold -ergot! if indeed that is in the bile I mean bible. Emotional madness is no enlightenment, nor is magic* a faery fantasy. A proper use of magic* involves a central nexus of an unanswered question with an expectation of a symbolic answer appearing before your eyes. For example a floating triangle with a circle inside is lithium hydride LiH. The question was (a new power source?) back in 1990.

Bluing mushrooms if bruised is the first indication of an active enlightening psilocybin. There is a bluing bruised effect in some hibiscus but it is not psilo. Few foods raise IQ like magic *.

Writers of the all time best TV series like ^ ^ and ^ movies use magic *. Although you would be shocked by the truth there is no need to be reductionist with ,or jeopardize, friends.

My post last year recommended all religious leaders to be required to be enlightened.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 May 17 - 09:54 AM

"Excuse my ignorance, but what does "MSM" stand for?"
Apparently it stands for males who have sex with males -Ake's "thing", apparently (wasn't tehre a film called 'Jake's Thing'?
I think Sen's pint is probably answered by regarding Ake's obsession as an acute case of latent or closet homosexuality - insecurity about his own
I've never come across anybody who crusades in the manner he does
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Raggytash
Date: 22 May 17 - 10:11 AM

Senoufou, I too have questioned his obsession regarding homosexuality, I too think that perhaps he has a latent propensity towards it.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Senoufou
Date: 22 May 17 - 10:26 AM

I always call this type of thing 'Mentionitis'.
It usually does indicate there is an obsession of some sort.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Donuel
Date: 22 May 17 - 11:00 AM

This is the only MSM I am aware of:
Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM)

Scientific Name(s): Methylsulfonylmethane , DMSO2

Common Name(s): MSM

Uses
MSM is commonly used for osteoarthritis, but may also benefit in alleviating GI upset, musculoskeletal pain, and allergies; boosting the immune system; and fighting antimicrobial infection. Clinical trials are needed to verify these potential uses.

Fighting the Fight: Fibromyalgia Explained
SLIDESHOW
Fighting the Fight: Fibromyalgia Explained
Dosing
MSM commonly is given as 2 to 6 g/day in 2 to 3 divided doses for arthritis and other joint conditions.
Commonly used in the NFL
It is also a solvent.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: akenaton
Date: 22 May 17 - 11:40 AM

You people amaze me, how can you argue and debate when you have not a clue what you are debating about?
MSM is a registered demographic in all of the health agencies.
It stands for "Men who have sex with men", basically male homosexuals.
They make up 2% of the population, but account for 80% of all new HIV infections in men and 75% of all syphilis infections in men and women.
They are also over represented in all other STDs.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Jeri
Date: 22 May 17 - 11:46 AM

Senoufou wrote

"Just a general observation, but when a Certain Person keeps on and on about something, and brings it up at every opportunity, using the same old acronym and the same old vitriol, it's a bit similar to 'Methinks the lady doth protest too much'. One begins to wonder if actually, it's become an obsession for the simple reason they're fascinated and strangely attracted by the phenomenon, and are struggling with themselves about it......."

Yes, the "certain person" does it, then all the compulsives are helplesss to focus on the subject instead of the "certain person".

Ake, if you want to talk about guys having sex with guys, start a thread and see who takes the bait... again.

Subject: RE: BS: Stephen Fry Blasphemy
From: Donuel
Date: 22 May 17 - 11:57 AM

I shouldn't have to say who is acting in a mean and provocative 1970's manner. Mudcat BS has less diversity than the early days but not making stupid accusations about stuff that doesn't matter applies to all. The new hateful Trump age is no excuse.

I've lost interest in Akenatun since he became a one sided coin and addicted to one source propaganda. Bridges are interesting, walls are boring.