BS: The Essence of England

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Sep 17 - 08:38 PM

I love the Lakes though I don't know them as well as I should. I'll have to stick to telling you about Cornwall. Park your car at the Rough Tor car park, about five miles out of Camelford. Do the gentle walk up to Rough Tor, past the Bronze Age settlement. Drop down into the dip between Rough Tor and Brown Willy. Eat your cheese rolls, have a cuppa from your flask and revel in the silence. It's very hard to get pure silence anywhere these days but that's one place I've found where you can still get it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Stu
Date: 11 Sep 17 - 04:13 AM

The Mouselow Stones
The Diggers
Arbor Low
Alan Garner
The Waterstons
Anglican Cathedral at Liverpool
Neovenator salieri
The mist spilling over Cophurst Edge
John Rylands Library
The Tolpuddle Martyrs
Darwin, Huxley and Mantell
Stokesay Castle
The Beatles
The Holte End
Chips and gravy
Trout streams in the Peak District
Turner
The Leekfrith Torques
Rogers Profanisaurus
Seaside towns in winter
Tea. Lots and lots of tea.
Arthur sleeping under the Edge
The Chartists
Bowie
Cider

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: MikeL2
Date: 11 Sep 17 - 10:45 AM

Hi Dave


<" Washing a lamb biryani down with a couple of pints of Black Sheep">

Black Sheep ....oh YES. I get it in bottles around here...not on draught unfortunately.

But if it's good enough for Inspector Banks it's good enough for me.

I lived in Yorkshire for some years and they served draught. I used to call it Sheep Dip.

I miss the brass bands in the parks on Sundays and Yorkshire Pudding with gravy served before the meat course

Regards

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Teribus
Date: 11 Sep 17 - 12:21 PM

At the moment it would appear to be Henry VIII

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Mr Red
Date: 12 Sep 17 - 03:46 AM

Black Pudding - though only the sort without the onions.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: akenaton
Date: 04 Oct 17 - 06:44 AM

The reason for the refusal of course, is the bureaucratic nightmare which would ensue....marriage is usually encouraged by the authorities as an easy means of record keeping and stabilisation of society.......family structure.

Homosexuals were only granted both, because they are a small minority with huge media and political leverage.
Their definition of "marriage" or Union, often differs dramatically from traditional marriage.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: akenaton
Date: 04 Oct 17 - 06:49 AM

Sorry should have been in the "Law" thread

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 17 - 12:18 PM

It shouldn't have been in any thread. And neither should you.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Oct 17 - 03:45 PM

What about your pal's "All welcome on this thread" Shaw?

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Oct 17 - 04:36 PM

Haven't a clue what you're talking about, problem poster. Go away. Please.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Teribus
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 03:29 AM

Good heavens, left to Shaw there wouldn't be anyone left to post.

As you, by your own admission, Haven't got a clue, let me explain.

There is a thread with the title "All welcome on this thread", which I suppose means that any contribution is welcome by anyone.

Which means that the contribution made by the poster you objected to when you posted the following:

Steve Shaw - 04 Oct 17 - 12:18 PM

It shouldn't have been in any thread. And neither should you.

Would surely have been welcomed on the "All welcome on this thread"

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Raggytash
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 03:53 AM

Tasted my first English beer for over a month yesterday, a Northumbrian Gold from the Hadrian & Border Brewery and a Citrastar from the Anarchy Brewery. Very good too!

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 03:57 AM

As ever, Tezzer, you missed the main point. The title of the thread is indeed "All welcome on this thread" but the opening post reads "...provided that you are polite and not here just to argue."

The post by ake is contentious and obviously intended to cause conflict. It is also impolite to refer to the marriage of homosexuals in quotes as if to indicate it is no real marriage at all. It would therefore not be welcome on that thread at all.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Teribus
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 04:02 AM

Ah right then Gnome - Not All Welcome at all - Maybe a title change would be in order.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Raggytash
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 04:13 AM

It would seem that some people are dead set on creating problems where they do not exist, perhaps they will say it is all someone else's fault when they are eventually excluded from this forum.

No doubt this post will receive a verbal diatribe in response.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 04:14 AM

No thanks. "All welcome on this thread provided that you are polite and not here just to argue" is perfect. If the moderators disagree they are welcome to change it. I know it may be difficult but you just have to read beyond the title.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 04:39 AM

Teribus is picking fights this morning, not just here but also in the one-trick pony thread. Go and get some fresh air, Bill.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Teribus
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 05:14 AM

Picking fights Shaw? Perish the thought merely making observations:

1: A thread that does not mean what it says in the title given.

2: And another thread that does not mean what it says in the title given.

What's up Shaw feeling a bit "liverish" after all those delicious Portuguese tarts and cut price booze?

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 05:39 AM

Portuguese custard tarts and cut-price booze? The sweetness of the tart would completely ruin the taste of the red wine. Only a glass of a sweeter style of Madeira (I recommend the Bual) should be taken with those tarts. Don't be such a social primitive, Teribus. Tsk.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Teribus
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 05:43 AM

cut-price booze = red wine? Don't be such a social primitive, Shaw. Tsk.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 05:57 AM

Tezzer appears to be more curmudgeonly than usual today.

I am not picking a fight. Perish the thought. Merely making an observation :-)

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 06:05 AM

From: Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 05:39 AM

Portuguese custard tarts and cut-price booze? The sweetness of the tart would completely ruin the taste of the red wine. Only a glass of a sweeter style of Madeira (I recommend the Bual) should be taken with those tarts.

I don't think Teribus mentioned 'red wine'. That is your translation.
What he said was 'cut-price booze'. By your own statements on the other thread your 'Bual' which you consider suitable for drinking with the tarts was 'cut price booze'.
"We went to Blandy's for a tour and a Madeira tasting. The five-year-old Bual was on special offer so we bought six bottles,"

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Iains
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 06:19 AM

The essence of England is of course rule by Tories. The odd occasions Labour are allowed in to trash the joint is recognised by all as a temporary aberration, soon corrected.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 11:58 AM

The Bual was still nearly ten quid a bottle. Not what I call cut-price booze. Almost all the cut-price booze I've ever mentioned on this forum has been red wine so I'm well within spec. Incidentally, Sainsbury's House Wine Torla Rioja 2016 is a steal at £4.60. It was an even bigger steal last week when you could get it for less than £3.50 during the 25% off for six event. Now THAT'S cut-price booze!

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 12:03 PM

Oh, I dunno. The Tories have trashed the joint forever in the last 18 months, and, judging from yesterday's fiasco, there's more trashing to come. At least the Tories of old could achieve a stage-managed party conference without hilarious security breaches, letters falling off the wall and a supposed prime minister who's just pointlessly chucked away her majority spluttering her way through an aimless speech. God help us.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Iains
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 12:53 PM

Actually the entertainment within the tory party conference is just a
fairly discrete way of alluding to the chaos that would be corbyn, should he ever get a sniff of power.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 01:31 PM

There’s no “should” about it. Be very afraid, Tories!

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: BobL
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 04:50 AM

We used to have a good system - after a change of government, either way, the incoming lot spent the first couple of years fixing the mess the others left behind, then a year or two pursuing those policies for which they'd been elected and which were generally a good idea. After that it became dogma-driven, until the electorate got fed up with the resulting mess and switched back again.
Generally the Tories were better at creating wealth, Labour better at distributing it so in the long term it all worked nicely.

At present though, neither side seems up to doing anything useful.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: billybob
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 05:38 AM

Carols from Kings Cambridge on Christmas Eve, White Cliffs of Dover, Bybury in the Cotswolds.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: DMcG
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 05:58 AM

Quora had a question about whether it is illegal to burn a Union Flag. A soldier answered about a time he has witnessed it. I wont copy out his response but he said they feigned being angry because it was what the protesters seemed to want. A resppnse to his comment was this:

You could well copy and paste this answer under one of the “most British thing ever” questions: faking an angry look in front of people who are trying to offend you for the sake of their feelings is one of the most surreally gentlemanly actions I’ve heard of in a long while. I salute you for possessing such a metaphysical sense of chivalry.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Stu
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 06:07 AM

"The essence of England is of course rule by Tories."

Not my bit. Up yer arse! Toffee-nosed dimwit. I shouldn't mock. Tory/Kipper tosspots have no idea what England is or ever was.

A Place Called England

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 10:53 AM

From: Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 11:58 AM
The Bual was still nearly ten quid a bottle. Not what I call cut-price booze.

But by your description ("We went to Blandy's for a tour and a Madeira tasting. The five-year-old Bual was on special offer so we bought six bottles,"), you bought it at a reduced price. So it is, by definition “Cut price booze”. When you start referring to some red wines, I think what you are trying to describe is “cheap” booze.

I am so glad I never had you as a teacher, as your grip on the English language is weak, to say the least.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 11:19 AM

"Cut-price" requires a hyphen. Dearie me, Nigel. Cut-price is a perfectly good synonym of cheap or bargain. It's widely used even when an actual price reduction is not indicated. I've told you about being too literal before, haven't I. We are generally typing fairly informal English here, not legalese. I'm not going to be describing a bottle of wine that cost nearly ten quid as cut-price. My mates would think I'd won the lottery. I'll call my £4.60 bottle of Rioja cut-price even when Sainsbury's haven't reduced the price. They have clearly pared the shelf price to the bone in order to sell me a good bottle of red (and it is good) for under a fiver. Now had you been in my class at school I'd have sent you to Special Needs and called in the educational psychologist, concerned at your habit of taking things too literally. What's that condition called now...

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 11:42 AM

From: Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 11:19 AM

"Cut-price" requires a hyphen.
That depends upon your dictionary. The English language seems to be moving away from the use of hyphens.

Dearie me, Nigel. Cut-price is a perfectly good synonym of cheap or bargain. It's widely used even when an actual price reduction is not indicated.
Not in any case I've ever encountered. "Cut price" (with or without a hyphen) relates to the cost of something for which the price has been 'cut'.

I've told you about being too literal before, haven't I. We are generally typing fairly informal English here, not legalese
So I can ignore your comments about whether or not a hyphen is required? (not very consistent are you?).

I'm not going to be describing a bottle of wine that cost nearly ten quid as cut-price (even when I've already stated that the price was reduced). My mates would think I'd won the lottery. I'll call my £4.60 bottle of Rioja cut-price even when Sainsbury's haven't reduced the price.
So, as I said, a very poor grip on the English language.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Iains
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 11:50 AM

The essence of England is of course rule by Tories.

"Not my bit. Up yer arse! Toffee-nosed dimwit. I shouldn't mock. Tory/Kipper tosspots have no idea what England is or ever was."

Can some one sensible provide a translation in English for the last two lines of gibberish. Perhaps pearls of wisdom lurked within.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Stu
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 12:12 PM

Arse pearls!

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 12:44 PM

Well you need to get out more, Nigel. You move away from hyphens if you want to. I shall continue to use them where I think they make things clearer. And there's not a lot wrong with my grasp of English and I don't like remarks of that kind. I've got my eye on you now, you silly lad. I should hire a proofreader from now on if I were you.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 01:44 PM

Indulge me for a moment, Stu. Your "gibberish" made perfect sense to me. So as I'm someone sensible, which is what Iains asked for, I'll translate for him.

"Not my bit" - not Stu's bit of England, pal!

"Up yer arse!" - insert your silly notion as far as it will go up the orifice that lies between the two cheeks of your probably-unwashed chocolate-covered Tory bumbum.

"Toffee-nosed dimwit" - little-Englander snobby ignorant twit.

"I shouldn't mock" - Yes he bloody should.

"Tory/Kipper tosspots" - tosspots (I assume you're OK with that one) whose sentiments lie with either the Tory party or UKIP. If your sentiments lie in either of those directions you are not automatically a tosspot but, well, let's put it this way: you're more than three-quarters of the way there.

"have no idea what England is or ever was." - they think that England is the country of long shadows on county grounds, warm beer, invincible green suburbs, dog lovers and pools fillers and, as George Orwell said, 'Old maids bicycling to holy communion through the morning mist' and, if they get their way, Shakespeare will still be read even in school. The gritty reality of food banks, zero-hours contracts, communities destroyed by a harridan ideologue and the disabled and elderly left to rot has totally eluded them, probably because they're too busy checking their dividends.

Thanks for the opportunity, Stu. Hope this helps, Iains.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Teribus
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 01:56 PM

"We are generally typing fairly informal English here, not legalese." - Shaw

Pity that "We" doesn't extend to all isn't it Shaw - Keith A is not extended any slack by you and your pals at all. Jom can barely string an intelligible sentence together, tells outright lies and gets a "free pass". You and your supposed standards all seem to be double and hypocritical - but there again that is another "socialist" foible isn't it - "Do as I say, not as I do".

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 05:51 PM

Have another six pints, Bill.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Teribus
Date: 07 Oct 17 - 02:48 AM

Truth hurts does it Shaw? I'll leave the crutch of alcohol ("Cheap plonk" & "Cut price booze") to you Shaw - I don't need it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Iains
Date: 07 Oct 17 - 04:14 AM

"And there's not a lot wrong with my grasp of English and I don't like remarks of that kind. I've got my eye on you now, you silly lad. I should hire a proofreader from now on if I were you."

A prime candidate for the idiot of the year award! Is he real?????????

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Teribus
Date: 07 Oct 17 - 04:24 AM

Stu - 06 Oct 17 - 06:07 AM

How was it the Gnome put it? Ah yes - "The epitome of politeness". and didn't Shaw rant on a bit about mutual respect and intelligent, reasoned debate. How easy the mask slips doesn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Oct 17 - 05:24 AM

No he didn’t.

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Stu
Date: 07 Oct 17 - 10:36 AM

"How was it the Gnome put it? Ah yes - "The epitome of politeness"."

Yer wot?

Subject: RE: BS: The Essence of England
From: Teribus
Date: 07 Oct 17 - 11:56 AM

Oh I'm not so sure Shaw. I'm sure I can turn up something typed hypocritically by you along those lines, only thing is I don't know if I can be arsed.