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Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?

GUEST 08 Jun 17 - 08:04 AM
cnd 08 Jun 17 - 05:09 PM
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Effsee 09 Jun 17 - 09:50 AM
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Jim Carroll 10 Jun 17 - 02:09 AM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 10 Jun 17 - 04:43 AM
FreddyHeadey 10 Jun 17 - 07:05 AM
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GUEST,Danny uk 21 Oct 17 - 10:32 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jun 17 - 08:04 AM

Hi all,
I was recently at a Daoiri Farrell gig. I wrote down a few words which allowed me to track down most of my favourite songs, but one eludes me. It was about a man whose wife is violent towards him so he pushes her into a bog where she drowns. I suspect it's Irish, all things considered, but not sure. The name Jean may be involved (I was writing in the dark and it's not entirely comprehensible :) )
If it's in the DB, I'm looking wrong...
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Jo


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: cnd
Date: 08 Jun 17 - 05:09 PM

Was the song in question performed by Daoiri Farrell? If so, there is a song about murder and bogs (but not wives) performed by him called "The Creggan White Hare).

That's my best guess for now. Have any more lyrics or tunes?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jun 17 - 06:14 PM

He performed that at the gig as well, but it was a different song...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: cnd
Date: 08 Jun 17 - 10:05 PM

Killieburne Brae or The Farmers Curst Wife or some variation of the tune? Sounds like it fits the description to me. The only issue is I can't find anything online of him recording the song. Not a bog, but brae could be what you wrote and couldn't read it.

http://www.songlyrics.com/the-dubliners/killieburne-brae-lyrics/


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jun 17 - 06:54 AM

Closer, but no - this was definitely a murder. The word may indeed not be bog... marsh, fen? I wrote "wife bog murder"!
I got the feeling it was something Daoiri was doing for fun rather than part of his recorded core repertoire...
Thanks for the thought...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: Effsee
Date: 09 Jun 17 - 09:50 AM

Marrow Bones?

The blind man he could see?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 09 Jun 17 - 10:17 AM

Jo
Have you tried his FB page yet?
He, or a fan, might answer.
https://www.facebook.com/DaoiriFarrell/
or his website
http://daoiri.com/contact/
There are a couple of email addresses.

Or you might have to go to another gig and buy him a pint.

~~~~~~~~~
I don't always find the song but when making a note of song lyrics I like I try to pick a phrase which sounds quite particular.
And when I write it down I put "quote marks" round the phrase. Otherwise it's all a messy jumble in my head
and on the paper.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jun 17 - 10:43 AM

Lots of wise advice right there :)
It was a fortuitous gig - I was on a holiday tour in Ireland, someone just asked the guide if we could go to hear some Irish music!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 09 Jun 17 - 07:55 PM

Your guide picked a good one then.
He's got a great voice and style.
:) good luck.
And if you do get through to him.... let us know the answer!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jun 17 - 07:56 PM

Daoiri kindly replied to my message on FB and gave me a lead - it was rearranged and recorded by Fergus Russell on his album Landless and Free.
He didn't tell me the song name though and I can't find a track listing (assuming that would help)... can anyone pick up the thread from there? Or would it be a breach of etiquette to not just buy the album? :)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 10 Jun 17 - 02:09 AM

"Or would it be a breach of etiquette to not just buy the album? :)"
Fergie would be the last person to complain - this is a track-list of 'Landless and Free

Pat Rainey
Dearest Erin
Rise of Porter
Rags Upon the Poddle
Larry Doolan
Lord Landless
The Dunghill Boy
Peter Gray
Paudeen O'Rafferty
Goodbye Biddy Dear
'Tis Whiskey
I Adore The Glass of Whiskey
Pretty Little Dear
Fifty Shades
The Bold Irishman

Can't recall this particular song - will check later
I don't know if it's the same song, but back in the seventies we recorded an elderly singer/storyteller in North County Clare, Pat MacNamara, who had a large number of songs and stories, including quite a number we had never heard before or only knew about by reputation - one of them was a fragment of on which we listed as 'Into the bog with her'
Will check that later too
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 10 Jun 17 - 04:43 AM

It's Paudeen O'Rafferty alright.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 10 Jun 17 - 07:05 AM

While I've got them open, here are some links to Landless and Free and Fergus Russell

review ... scroll down to Landless and Free
https://howthsingingcircle.com/sweet-nightingale/ 

Claddagh Records page €15
http://claddaghrecords.com/index.php/fergus-russell-landless-free.html 

A couple of examples of Fergus' style
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mo4UgZ4hXiU&feature=youtu.be 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=gs5prHn77Ds 

fb
https://m.facebook.com/fergus.russell.10 


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jun 17 - 07:38 AM

Ah, brilliant! The Claddagh Records one is the one that confused my by not having a full track listing.

This explains why I thought the name Jean might be involved - I'd written "poor jean?" above "bog murder"!
It seems a very different set of lyrics to those normally attached to the name (at least by the thread on the subject here :) ). "Into the bog with her" sounds about right, I'd like to know about that whether its the same thing or not!
So, anyone know the lyrics to the murderous version of Paudeen O'Rafferty?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: GUEST,Danny uk
Date: 21 Oct 17 - 10:32 AM

Tipping it up to Nancy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wife murdered in a bog?
From: GUEST,Mick Green, Whitby (Coblers Monday Shanty Gr
Date: 24 Oct 17 - 09:42 AM

Is there any connection with the Dick Darby song? He "dips her three times in the river and carelessly bade her goodbye".


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