The Transports on BBC R3!

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 21 Jan 18 - 05:11 AM

Damned iphone - should say: I don't agree, Matthew's contribution added considerable value to the excellent production. I must dig out my DAT recording at the Hawth Crawley last February!!!

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: DaveRo
Date: 23 Jan 18 - 09:50 AM

I made a cue sheet to go with the download provided by Bonzo3legs. It lists the order and start times of the songs and other segments.

Some media players, such as Audacious will play this file and allow you to skip straight to a track. I suggest that any questions about cuesheets and media players are asked in a new tech: thread rather than here. Even if you can't play it you can use it to locate the songs. Index times are in minutes and seconds.

While making this I noticed that two songs are not in the same order as the original - I Once Lived In Service and Roll Down are after Norwich Gaol and Still & Silent Ocean respectively.

REM http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09l25w3
PERFORMER "Rachel McShane, Sean Cooney, Matthew Crampton, David Eagle, Michael Hughes, Nancy Kerr, Benji Kirkpatrick, Saul Rose, Greg Russell, Paul Sartin"
FILE "TheTransports 2017-08-30.ts" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Programme Intro"
    PERFORMER "Verity Sharp"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 06:22:00
TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Father:Us Poor Fellows"
    PERFORMER "Paul Sartin"
    INDEX 01 09:09:00
TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 14:49:00
TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "Abe Carman:The Robber's Song"
    PERFORMER "David Eagle"
    INDEX 01 15:15:00
TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 18:04:00
TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Mother:The Leaves In The Woodland"
    PERFORMER "Nancy Kerr"
    INDEX 01 21:09:00
TRACK 07 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 26:24:00
TRACK 08 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Convict: Norwich Gaol"
    PERFORMER "Benji Kirkpatrick"
    INDEX 01 28:06:00
TRACK 09 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 33:05:00
TRACK 10 AUDIO
    TITLE "Susannah:I Once Lived In Service"
    PERFORMER "Rachael McShane"
    INDEX 01 35:15:00
TRACK 11 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 40:34:00
TRACK 12 AUDIO
    TITLE "Henry & Susannah: Sweet Loving Friendship"
    PERFORMER "Rachael McShane and Sean Cooney"
    INDEX 01 41:05:00
TRACK 13 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 44:57:00
TRACK 14 AUDIO
    TITLE "Henry: The Black & Bitter Night"
    PERFORMER "Sean Cooney"
    INDEX 01 49:36:00
TRACK 15 AUDIO
    TITLE "Inverval introduction"
    PERFORMER "Verity Sharp"
    INDEX 01 55:52:00
TRACK 16 AUDIO
    TITLE "Interval - about Peter Bellamy"
    PERFORMER "Verity Sharp"
    INDEX 01 56:26:00
TRACK 17 AUDIO
    TITLE "Second half introduction"
    PERFORMER "Verity Sharp"
    INDEX 01 80:43:00
TRACK 18 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 81:17:00
TRACK 19 AUDIO
    TITLE "Dark Water (Sean Cooney)"
    PERFORMER "Sean Cooney"
    INDEX 01 83:00:00
TRACK 20 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 89:10:00
TRACK 21 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Turnkey: The Humane Turnkey (1)"
    PERFORMER "Greg Russell"
    INDEX 01 96:41:00
TRACK 22 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 97:52:00
TRACK 23 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Coachman: The Plymouth Mail"
    PERFORMER "Michael Hughes"
    INDEX 01 99:47:00
TRACK 24 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 104:19:00
TRACK 25 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Turnkey: The Humane Turnkey (2)"
    PERFORMER "Greg Russell"
    INDEX 01 104:49:00
TRACK 26 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 107:14:00
TRACK 27 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Transports: The Green Fields Of England"
    PERFORMER "Many"
    INDEX 01 109:53:00
TRACK 28 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 116:07:00
TRACK 29 AUDIO
    TITLE "Henry & Susannah: The Still & Silent Ocean"
    PERFORMER "Rachael McShane and Sean Cooney"
    INDEX 01 118:39:00
TRACK 30 AUDIO
    TITLE "Narrator"
    PERFORMER "Matthew Crampton"
    INDEX 01 120:23:00
TRACK 31 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Shantyman: Roll Down"
    PERFORMER "Saul Rose"
    INDEX 01 124:24:00
TRACK 32 AUDIO
    TITLE "Conclusion"
    PERFORMER "Verity Sharp"
    INDEX 01 129:18:00

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: Hagman
Date: 23 Jan 18 - 07:49 PM

The studio recording from March/April 2017 is now available on CD from Hudson Records (HUD007CD).

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 24 Jan 18 - 08:18 AM

Yes, it’s an interesting compliment to the live recordings from Shrewsbury Folk Festival, BBC R3, and my own at Crawley Hawth Theatre!!!

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 14 Feb 18 - 05:29 AM

The Transports - 10-01-2018

Did anyone manage to record this one please.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09l25w3

Thank you - CJB

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Feb 18 - 05:32 AM

Of course, when I get to my PC I'll link to my forever copy!

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 14 Feb 18 - 06:52 AM

Small observation the 30-08-2017 version is shorter by 20 mins than the 10-01-2018 version. is that due to Interval item about Peter Bellemy?

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Feb 18 - 07:34 AM

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ozu30sc7cm7pjh/The%20Transports%202017-08-30.ts?dl=0

I took out the interval section because I didn't want to listen to it, but I may still have it somewhere!

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Feb 18 - 08:38 AM

I've found it, so I'll extract just the interval.

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Feb 18 - 08:58 AM

Here is the interval

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tgaq5mquv4nagqi/TransportsInterval.ts?dl=0

The files are from the BBC webstream and are in AAC format in a ts container. They will play in Windows Media Player and VLC - right click/open with/Windows Media Player or VLC

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Feb 18 - 09:19 AM

Transports Performance 2017-08-30 broadcast by BBC Radio 3

Transports Interval

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 14 Feb 18 - 10:39 AM

Versions ....

so the 30-08-2017 version IS the same as the 01-10-2018 version but with the Interval removed?

So if the 30-08-2017 version was aired on Radio 3 is this the same as the recent 01-10-2018 version also aired on Radio 3?

I thought that the latter was the MAIN airing. The Beeb iPlayer page seems to suggest that only the 01-10-2018 version was ever aired?

Whatever - thanks for the uploads!!!

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 14 Feb 18 - 11:02 AM

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 16 Jul 17 - 07:47 AM

Transports - Hawth Crawley Performance 1 February 2017

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Do you still have this one. The link is dead. Thanks.

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Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Feb 18 - 12:24 PM

Aha dates confusion! - the performance of the Transports broadcast by BBC Radio 3 on 10 January 2018 actually took place on 30 August 2017, just a few days after their one off performance at the Shrewsbury Folk Festival .

Yes I still have my recording of the Hawth Crawley performance on 1 February 2017, which I'll put in my dropbox.

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 22 Feb 18 - 02:59 AM

Paul Sartin/Sean Cooney talk about The Transports on BBC Radio Scotland "Travelling Folk" last night!

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: DaveRo
Date: 22 Feb 18 - 05:10 AM

The piece starts at 19 minutes. At one point in the interview (@ 36mins) Sean Cooney says that Bellamy's Ballad of Henry and Suzannah - the verses he sings to link the songs - "somehow detracts from the story". But in the next breath he says that if the audience don't pay attention they won't follow what's going on (my paraphrasing).

Bellamy's concise linking verses certainly don't detract from the story, but do presuppose the listener will know some history: about girls going 'into service', that a minor crime could result in hanging or transportation to Australia, or what a 'stage' is for a mail coach. And I think they think a modern audience will not know enough history to understand the context of the songs - especially in a live performance. And I suspect they're right.

So having spoken narrative is justified, I think. It also addresses the problem that Paul Sartin mentions at the start - the original is too short. It also allows them to widen the scope to cover other, different, forms of migration. Which really does 'detract from the story' in my view.

Subject: RE: The Transports on BBC R3!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 22 Feb 18 - 01:38 PM

Absolutely, the narrative was superb.