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Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana

EBarnacle 03 Aug 17 - 11:44 PM
meself 04 Aug 17 - 01:12 AM
BobL 04 Aug 17 - 01:23 AM
EBarnacle 04 Aug 17 - 08:41 AM
GUEST 04 Aug 17 - 09:16 AM
EBarnacle 04 Aug 17 - 09:34 AM
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EBarnacle 04 Aug 17 - 04:32 PM
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EBarnacle 07 Aug 17 - 10:33 PM
GUEST,Lighter 08 Aug 17 - 06:51 AM
Dave Hanson 08 Aug 17 - 06:59 AM
Jack Campin 08 Aug 17 - 08:18 AM
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Subject: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: EBarnacle
Date: 03 Aug 17 - 11:44 PM

Over the years, there has been a lot of discussion over whether Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare.
A friend has advised me that a local museum library has several letters written by Elizabeth to Shakespeare. I intend to go there in a few days to see whether the letters are available for scholarly viewing, nay whether they even exist. It would be good to lay the conundrum of authorship to rest.
An academic friend of mine has offered to work up a journal article with me if the letters are real.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: meself
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 01:12 AM

Well ... it would depend, of course, on what the letters say. ... "Dear Mr Shakespeare: Thank you for sending us your play. Unfortunately, we receive so many that we do not have time to read them all. Having already chosen our program for the next season, we regret that we have to return your manuscript unread. Good luck with your writing! Yours, E." ....


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: BobL
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 01:23 AM

Can you tell whether they are addressed to Wm Shakespr actor and theatrical manager of London, Wm Shakespr businessman of Stratford-upon-Avon, or some other Wm Shakespr?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: EBarnacle
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 08:41 AM

I don't know yet. All I have is a report that the letters exist. I may have more info later today.
Oh, yeah; I've already gotten that rejection letter for the Falstaff adaptation.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 09:16 AM

Shakespeare wasn't written by Shakespeare but by another man of the same name !


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: EBarnacle
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 09:34 AM

Guest, I suggest you read Shapiro before you make inane statements.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 09:37 AM

EBarnacle, please, get a sense of humour, you'd like it,


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: EBarnacle
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 04:32 PM

Guest, you are propounding one of the several debunked theories of who Shakespeare was. If you are attempting humor, try being humorous.

First attempt at contacting the archivist was not successful. Will try again next week.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 08:15 PM

I am not " propounding" any theory, I was just making a joke, get a sense of humour!


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: EBarnacle
Date: 07 Aug 17 - 10:33 PM

There apparently is one Elizabeth letter and several contemporary documents. The Elizabeth letter is not related to Shakespeare but who knows what else may be in the archive.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 08 Aug 17 - 06:51 AM

Of interest:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/to-beor-not-the-greatest-shakespeare-forgery-136201/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_Shakespeare_forgeries


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 08 Aug 17 - 06:59 AM

Gloriana ?


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Aug 17 - 08:18 AM

"Listen pal - you take out the bits in Macbeth where Lady M orders the mass killing of prisoners after a failed naval invasion, sets up a secret police force, knocks off several high-ranking aristos and a gay playwright, and locks up her sister-in-law in a cell for years before having her head chopped off, or you're going to be scripting the prisoners' Christmas show in the Tower"...


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: EBarnacle
Date: 08 Aug 17 - 09:23 AM

Gloriana was one of Elizabeth's nicknames.

The Elizabeth letter dates from when WS was 12 years old. There are other contemporary letters in the archive which I have offered to help conserve. At first glance none of them mention WS.

Jack, I wrote about Falstaff, not Macbeth. The religious and political situation in Merrye Olde was such that there was massive Catholic subversion as well as several attempts to overthrow Elizabeth. It was not a pleasant time to be a dissenter.


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 08 Aug 17 - 09:34 AM

Right we are then.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Folklore: Shakespeare as addressed by Gloriana
From: EBarnacle
Date: 08 Aug 17 - 09:45 AM

By the way, the Shapiro book I mentioned is "Contested Will . . ." It is quite readable and gives a history of the various Shakespeare frauds and theories of alternate authorship.


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