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Bright Phoebus specialist interest?

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Roger the Skiffler 04 Aug 17 - 10:10 AM
punkfolkrocker 04 Aug 17 - 10:28 AM
Vic Smith 04 Aug 17 - 10:50 AM
GUEST,Ed 04 Aug 17 - 11:22 AM
Roger the Skiffler 04 Aug 17 - 11:44 AM
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Subject: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 10:10 AM

Ignoring all the previous hoo-ha about copyright of this. It had a review today that suggested that only die-hard folkies would like it. My interest is mainly in American stuff and the UK folk groups I liked (Spinners, Corries, Dubliners, Clanceys,Campbells) are dismissed as popularists by the purists. So, would I like it, do you think?
RtS


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 10:28 AM

My guess is that at time of first release, a lot of real die-hard folkies might not have liked it...

.. far too popularist for their refined insular tastes... 😜

It's a bloody good LP, a mix of styles and moods, that merits at least one listen


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: Vic Smith
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 10:50 AM

I think that this may be the review that Roger is talking about - from today's "The Guardian"


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 11:22 AM

Until now, this extraordinary album of dark, bracing originals had only been available on miserably cheap CD-Rs, or on one of the 1,000 properly printed 1972 LPs

As I mentioned in an earlier thread, that quite simply isn't true, my having a vinyl version purchased new in the late '90s.

Roger, the whole album can be found on YouTube if you want to 'try before you buy'. Personally, I think it's fantastic.


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 11:44 AM

Thanks, guys, helpful.
Vic beat me to the link to the review.
RtS


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 01:09 PM

Just listened to this on YouTube. What a treat it is. Thanks for this post, always grand to hear new things!


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 01:24 PM

Looking forward to the extra tracks...

Amazon uploaded the mp3s to my online prime account last night prior to delivery of the CD,
but I'll resist until I get the CD...


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 04 Aug 17 - 01:26 PM

Two more reviews;

Bright

phoebus


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 05 Aug 17 - 04:50 AM

See:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ks98493rdzz23cz/Lost_Albums_-_Bright_Phoebus_%2804-May-07%29.mp3


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 05 Aug 17 - 12:22 PM

The CD is waiting at the post office for collection.

I really need to compare it to the Bulmer CD [mine was factory pressed siver disc, not CDR]
but I can't remember which box I exiled it to after a very disappointed listening to it's poor quality digital transfer....


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 06 Aug 17 - 08:02 AM

You mean Bulmer made CDR copies - likely from vinyl? Sold at the usual price too? That does not bode well for the existence / condition of the master tapes. And CDR's have a very short playable life - commercialy pressed CDs / DVDs are much more prefereable.


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Aug 17 - 08:16 AM

Bulmer sold CDs on Amazon [and elsewhere].. most people have claimed they were cheap shoddy CDRs..
but mine definitely looked like a factory pressed silver disc.

Sound quality did not seem too bad at first quick sample listen through small speakers.
Proper listening with good quality headphones revealed obvious obtrusive unpleasant distortion on Lal's vocal peaks..
This indicated either transfer from a shite condition vinyl LP,
or very amateurish digital conversion & mastering to CD...???

Whichever, I couldn't bring myself to endure it again, so dumped it in a storage box...


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Aug 17 - 08:25 AM

The new official CD release "remastered from the original 1/4" tapes"is on my desk now waiting for the right moment to be enjoyed...


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: GUEST,The Moth
Date: 06 Aug 17 - 06:18 PM

I pre-ordered the vinyl edition from the Domino website when the reissue was first announced, and was quite surprised when I received it about three weeks ago....way ahead of the scheduled release date...

I too have only previously heard the album from a dodgy Dave Bulmer CD issue (which was definitely a CDR), but can safely say the quality on the new reissue is absolutely spot on...

Won't go into detail about what else is included in the package cos I don't want to spoil anyone's fun...but I personally think it's a thoroughly worthwhile purchase.


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Aug 17 - 01:21 PM

Can't please everyone - or can you...???

My mrs prefers the 'pop' end of the folk spectrum.. a big time Kate Rusby fan..

She was downstairs listening to Amazon Prime Music on the TV speakers,
so I persuaded her to take a listen to the Bright Phoebus mp3s.
[tracks in random order - different to the LP]

After the first few minutes her reaction was a bored expression and "What's that.. !!?? her voice is horrible!!!"

So she skipped tracks until she heard Rubber Band and the electric guitar songs.. "Oh, that's better"

I googled the Guardian review and linked article for her to read on her phone, went upstairs, and left her to it...

About an hour and a half later I was back downstairs to find her happily singing along to one of Lal's solo tracks..

"I've gone back to the start and played it all over again.. she's grown on me.. I like it..."... 😎


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Aug 17 - 01:25 PM

bugger.. I've done it again.. i even double checked to make sure I'd got it right..

and I still typed ...???


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Aug 17 - 01:30 PM

so the ending of italics code is invisible even if I put the i and the / in the wrong order..??

Only quoted speech should have been in italics.. If a kindly mod please feels like tidying up..


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: GUEST,Cj
Date: 08 Aug 17 - 02:47 PM

Disgraceful, haphazzard over-use of italics there. Ewan "ma" Coll would be ashamed.


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Aug 17 - 03:05 PM

Yeah.. but it's one thing doing it as a deliberate literary device..
or simply buggering up a message due to such determination to avoid doing it,
you end up with a visual / mental bock, and still end up doing it anyway...??? 😕


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Subject: RE: Bright Phoebus specialist interest?
From: Thomas Stern
Date: 11 Aug 17 - 06:06 PM

a word of caution - there are TWO versions of the BRIGHT PHOEBUS
reissue release from DOMINO RECORDS:
a single CD reissue of the album
a 2-cd "deluxe" package containing the reissue, plus a cd of
demos, and 24pp booklet with song lyrics and notes by Pete Paphides
discussing the Watersons, genesis of the album, recording sessions, song notes, and critical response. Don't know if the booklet is included with the single disc release.
Notes make no mention of the arrangement by which Domino obtained
the master tapes. This would be nice to know, and if any other
LEADER/TRAILER material may be forthcoming from Domino.

Best wishes, Thomas.


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