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BS: All welcome on this thread

DMcG 01 Sep 17 - 12:03 PM
Dave the Gnome 01 Sep 17 - 10:45 AM
Nigel Parsons 01 Sep 17 - 10:37 AM
Nigel Parsons 01 Sep 17 - 10:34 AM
Mr Red 01 Sep 17 - 06:24 AM
Keith A of Hertford 01 Sep 17 - 05:02 AM
DaveRo 01 Sep 17 - 04:13 AM
Raggytash 01 Sep 17 - 02:54 AM
DMcG 31 Aug 17 - 02:37 PM
Donuel 31 Aug 17 - 01:39 PM
Dave the Gnome 31 Aug 17 - 09:44 AM
Will Fly 31 Aug 17 - 09:30 AM
Dave the Gnome 31 Aug 17 - 08:58 AM
Donuel 31 Aug 17 - 08:52 AM
Dave the Gnome 31 Aug 17 - 08:04 AM
Raggytash 31 Aug 17 - 07:19 AM
Steve Shaw 31 Aug 17 - 07:06 AM
Raggytash 31 Aug 17 - 06:51 AM
Dave the Gnome 31 Aug 17 - 06:47 AM
Steve Shaw 31 Aug 17 - 06:40 AM
Raggytash 31 Aug 17 - 06:02 AM
Steve Shaw 31 Aug 17 - 05:51 AM
Raggytash 31 Aug 17 - 05:36 AM
Keith A of Hertford 31 Aug 17 - 05:30 AM
Raggytash 31 Aug 17 - 05:20 AM
Dave the Gnome 31 Aug 17 - 05:15 AM
Mr Red 31 Aug 17 - 05:08 AM
Keith A of Hertford 31 Aug 17 - 04:49 AM
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MikeL2 30 Aug 17 - 02:42 PM
Dave the Gnome 30 Aug 17 - 02:33 PM
keberoxu 30 Aug 17 - 02:06 PM
Steve Shaw 30 Aug 17 - 12:38 PM
Kampervan 30 Aug 17 - 12:24 PM
Dave the Gnome 30 Aug 17 - 10:39 AM
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Raggytash 29 Aug 17 - 05:02 AM
Dave the Gnome 29 Aug 17 - 04:27 AM
Steve Shaw 28 Aug 17 - 06:29 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DMcG
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 12:03 PM

My iPod does handle podcasts, but doesn't have wifi. It also lives on the car. So it is just a minor hassle to unwire it all from the car, download podcasts onto pc, sync the iPod then wire it all up again - every week. Not hard, just irksome. At ake's almost suggestion, I have now set my phone to download the podcast automatically and then the bluetooth connection in my phone plays over the car's speakers.

It is an ancient iPod so in those days they had 160Gb memory. As far as I know they have never produced anything that big since.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 10:45 AM

You can get Pukka pies in Morrisons! Probably other supermarkets as well but seeing as I work for Mossers, try them first :-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 10:37 AM

Talking of pies, when I get up to Nottingham (usually once a year for Tenpin Bowling) I do like "Pukka Pies" as sold behind the bar at "The Newsroom" on canal street.


Mmmm . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 10:34 AM

Somewhere, over the rainbow, weigh a Pi


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Mr Red
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 06:24 AM

Simp son's Pair of Ducks you say?

And just to hark back to Pi - I find some heavy going so - where would you weight a pie?


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 05:02 AM

If you have Freeview, record them. I do.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DaveRo
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 04:13 AM

DMcG wrote: "More or Less"...getting them on my iPod is a pain
So the iPod cannot handle podcasts? Seems odd, but I don't use iThings. But perhaps that's another thread.

Last week's More or Less was excellent - with a musical illustration of Simpson's Paradox and its application to A-level results, and the history of women's clothing sizes.

Here's the RSS podcast feed address:
http://podcasts.files.bbci.co.uk/p02nrss1.rss


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Raggytash
Date: 01 Sep 17 - 02:54 AM

In 24 hours I shall be landing in Dublin, coach out to Galway and then onto my beloved Connemara ........... Great Stuff !!


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DMcG
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 02:37 PM

Radio 4 is quite staple fare for me, as I have about an hours journey to work, so the Today programme and PM are often on while I drive. I usually catch some of the ones that start at 4:30pm but mainly miss the stats one, "More or Less", on Fridays because that's how my working week pans out. Shame really, but the process of getting them on my iPod is a pain - though if I could download them to my phone .... hmmm, something to try.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 01:39 PM

Its about whatever mind body and spirit wants to acknowledge in pleasure and pain, in success and failure, in inspiration and desperation and in satisfaction and dissatisfaction.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 09:44 AM

Sounds a grand idea, Will. I will investigate the same at this end! I often thought that being buried in a cloth bag and planting a tree on the grave is a far better idea than traditional burials in a coffin with a marble headstone. Growing new resources instead of wasting them :-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Will Fly
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 09:30 AM

There was a brief bit of chat - earlier up the thread about visiting graves or places where ashes were scattered.

Mum-in-law passed away on Monday last, and we went out to a local natural burial ground this morning to pick a plot (in the Alder Glade). And a grand place it is - in the lee of the Jack & Jill windmills on Clayton Hill in Sussex - with wooded glades. So good it was that, after picking out her plot, we grabbed the one next door for ourselves - just thinking ahead, you understand.

To be honest, I don't really care what happens to me after I'm gone, but getting it sorted now saves a bit of hassle for my son when the time comes. And I do believe in crumbling away and giving life to a nearby tree. Dust to dust, etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 08:58 AM

:-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 08:52 AM

adv.

Hello its Donald, this is quite a turn out here. Thanks for coming out.
I wanted to remind you that the Harvey Storm has ruined many golf courses, ruined many golf courses. Its sad. But Trump Golf resorts are all open and in beautiful shape, beautiful shape. From Mara Lago to New Jersey and even Scotland. Reserve your T time today. You will be glad you did.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 08:04 AM

Titleys in Swinton for me, Raggy, but I believe he gets them from somewhere in Walkden. Our mutual friend in Scotland takes back a job lot whenever he visits.

DtH


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Raggytash
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 07:19 AM

Simply the best Meat & Potato pies are from Wards in Eccles. As a teenager I had a Saturday job at Waddiloves Bakery but still perfered Wards.

I went in last year for the first time in almost 40 years and the pies were just the same as they were and just as good.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 07:06 AM

It's a Greenhalgh's potato pie for me every time. Best eaten outdoors in the draughty little square in Millgate shopping centre in Bury, that bit where the brass bands play carols before Christmas. An essential part of the pie-eating ritual is that the first plastic forkful burns your mouth. Another part of the ritual is that you go back into the shop for another pie when you've finished.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Raggytash
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 06:51 AM

The three butchers are Fords at Glaisdale, Jacksons at Ruswarp and Radfords at Sleights.

I've never quite decided which is best. But if push came to shove it would be .............. er.......... er...........


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 06:47 AM

Mmmmm, pies...

I must say I never experienced as good a pork pie in Lancashire as I have since moving to Yorkshire. However, they do not hold a patch to pies in general. Tykes have no idea how to make a meat pie or meat and potato pie. In fact you get a very puzzled look if you ask for a meat pie! Luckily you can get Hollands in most places and, while not the best, they do help to keep my Lancastrian tastes satisfied until I can get home for rest and recuperation :-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 06:40 AM

My sister, who lives in Netherton near Huddersfield and she obtains the finest pork pies. I'll have to ask her where she gets them from. You can, and I do, get superb pork pies at Gloucester Services (so presumably at Tebay as well). The average supermarket pork pie is seldom worth bothering with. The more of that jelly the pie contains, the more I like it.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Raggytash
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 06:02 AM

It's Pork Pies around here. Three local(ish) butchers make excellent versions of them.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 05:51 AM

The saffron bun is indeed a thing of beauty, especially when heavily belaboured with Trewithen butter spread so thick that your teeth leave miniature cliffs at the edge when you bite in. I'll not demur. But a saffron bun is no pasty. As well as my favourite Chough bakery pasty, I'm an aficionado of Malcolm Barnecutt's productions. I can get one of those just up the road at the Post Office at Wainhouse Corner on the A39. I had a lovely pasty in the RNLI marquee in Bude on Monday which was allegedly supplied by Tasty Pasties of Bude. I'm currently investigating further.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Raggytash
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 05:36 AM

Meanwhile back at the sunshine club .......... my local has five excellent real ales on tap.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 05:30 AM

I see it has now closed Dave.
Thanks.
It remains on the thread list for a couple of days for anyone curious about why it collapsed onto acrimony. The guns of the guilty still smoke.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Raggytash
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 05:20 AM

Anyone got a spare ticket for the All Ireland Hurling Final at Croke Park on Sunday?

Nah, thought not, I'll just have to watch in the pub with the lads and pint of Guinness ............ or four!


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 05:15 AM

Kampervan's thread has now been closed, Keith, but thanks for posting and please keep to the spirit of the thread.

...provided that you are polite and not here just to argue

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Mr Red
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 05:08 AM

Chough Bakery pasties, in my view the finest in Cornwall

Well. Excuse me for being contentious, but

saffron buns are much more worthy of mention ................


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 31 Aug 17 - 04:49 AM

You are not alone in starting something with peaceable intentions and watching something completely different take shape. It has happened to a whole bunch of us.

I have an interest in this.

Kampervan's thread is still live It is instructive to look at how and why it changed.

Who made the first acrimonious post?
Who posted the first gratuitous personal abuse about people's character, faith, etc.?
Who first referred to years old discussions to try and make a case against other contributors instead against of their expressed views on the current subject?

Who first objected to these abuses and tried to restore harmony?
(That last one was me actually. Hence my interest in this.)


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 05:01 PM

"You are not alone in starting something with peaceable intentions and watching something completely different take shape. It has happened to a whole bunch of us."

Well I started a thread to wish good luck to Texas and it's turned right into one of those "robust debates" seasoned with a good dose of acrimony and the odd post deletion. But I'm never bothered. It's nice to have a hassle-free banter but one has to be philosophical around here. You can actually learn quite a lot from those dodgy threads. You can learn about how people get very good at arguing from positions of prejudice and denial and about how they use misrepresentation to try to beat you down. And you can learn how easy it is to make an arse of yourself by not checking your facts before posting or by reducing yourself to a gibbering, name-calling buffoon (best seen in others, admittedly). I'm not quick enough on my feet to make a good case in the face of some of that unless I have the time and space to think about what I want to say (still doesn't always come out right...), so I prefer the banter here to the risky endeavour of taking someone on in the pub after several pints...

Still, as they say sur le continent, one man's fish is another man's poisson and un oeuf is un oeuf!


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: MikeL2
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 02:42 PM

Hi Steve

Sorry for ambiguous sentence.... I better make it clear that Man United bear ARSENAL 8-2.

Liverpool v Man United games are usually hard fought low scoring games.

Long may it be so.

Cheers
Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 02:33 PM

It happens, Kampervan. Unfortunate fact of life on Mudcat. I tried to moderate another of my own threads by asking anyone who had just come to argue to go elsewhere but sadly that does not work. The only thing that can happen when a thread gets so bogged down in acrimony is its consignment to the bin.

Hopefully it will not happen here :-)

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 02:06 PM

Kampervan, welcome to the club. You are not alone in starting something with peaceable intentions and watching something completely different take shape. It has happened to a whole bunch of us.

When anybody mentions Hurley I think of Shane MacGowan singing about a rusty tin can and an old hurley ball, on "The Broad Majestic Shannon." That "fall from grace with God" album was the first I ever heard of the Pogues.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 12:38 PM

You mean when they beat Arsenal 8-2, Mike! I thought you were trying to sneak a bogus slaughtering of Liverpool by Man U past us there! 😈


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Kampervan
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 12:24 PM

I started that GB-NI thread cos I wondered why NI was singled out out as an addition to the title GB in the name of our athletics team.
Wow, what did I start?

This is a much nicer thread to get involved with, and much easier to follow too.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 10:39 AM

De nada, Mike :-)

Phew, I have just been over to the GB + NI thread. You are much better off with the hurley over here than the hurlyburly over there.

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: MikeL2
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 06:45 AM

Hi Steve

Sounds like you are having a great week-end.

<"Liverpool slaughtered Arsenal 4-0."> I was at Anfield ( Treason !!

My son had tickets and he went to a "posh" wedding in Amsterdam. So I told him I would reluctantly take his ticket.

I thought that Liverpool were fantastic , great attacking football.

Arsenal were bloody awful - lacked a plan and were wandering all over the place. The Pool could have scored far more if they had not eased up.

Reminded me of the day when Man United beat then 8-2

Regards
Mike

PS Thanks Dave for this thread -


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 06:30 AM

Well, you learn something knew every day :-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Raggytash
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 04:40 AM

Hurling is played with using a Hurley (made from the wood of an Ash tree) to strike the Sliotar, (the ball which is made of cork and leather)

The "aficionado's" won't give a monkeys what you call them. They will in all probability buy you a pint even if you support the opposition team.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Aug 17 - 04:22 AM

When visiting my mate up in Scotland we spend some time with his golfing mates in the pub. I regularly call golf clubs bats, rackets, sticks and cues. They have stopped correcting me now :-) Try it with Hurling and see what an aficionado says!

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DMcG
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 12:52 PM

... goal, and achieved. A rather run down pub nearby has be recently restored as part of a fairly good chain (Hall and Woodhouse) so we took put lunch there. Carved into the door on the way in was a verse and chorus of 'God speed the plough' so I inflicted it on my small party, but not all the diners. I have some consideration.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DMcG
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 12:47 PM

I've never watched hurling but a relative in Ireland (a cousin I think) played for Limerick many decades ago. So I have held a hurling stick - if that's even its name - but that is as close as I ever got to the game.

We spent Sunday pn Brownsea Island, so decided to go for a quiet Monday, with just myself, my wife, my daughter and her partner. Convivial meals and conversation was our


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 07:52 AM

Much appreciated, Nigel. Thank you.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 07:12 AM

Dave,
Thanks for your welcome to the thread, I'm just 'clocking in' to increase the numbers.
I've been watching, but with nothing much to say.

Cheers


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Raggytash
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 05:02 AM

On Sunday both Galway Senior and Junior Hurling teams play in their respective All Ireland Finals.

Don't know if you have ever watched Hurling but it is a great spectator game, very fast and very skillful.

I'm flying out on Saturday in time to watch both matches in a cracking bar in town.

There will no doubt be music after the games, win, lose or draw!!


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Aug 17 - 04:27 AM

Sounds grand Steve. Just a shame it is not in Yorkshire

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Aug 17 - 06:29 PM

Lifeboat Day in Bude today on one of the best bank holiday Mondays I can ever remember. We parked a mile out of town and strolled over the cliffs into Bude. Had a damn good pasty in the Lifeboat Day marquee then ambled into town for a cappuccino. Had a good butchers at the vintage cars on the Wharf and had a pot of tea at the Olive Tree by the canal. Then strolled back over the cliffs and went home for a barbie with pork fillet (wot I'd bought at Gloucester Services) and campfire potatoes that were scoffed even before they knew they'd been dug up, all herby and garlicky, with buttery runner beans from t'garden. All washed down with a cheap bottle of Prosecco wot I'd bought for a fiver at Morrisons and a magnum of Nero d'Avola wot I'd bought for £7.99 at Lidl (there's still plenty left). At half nine we strolled up our lane to the vantage point for watching the Lifeboat fireworks display from a distance. Jesus, we know how to live.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Aug 17 - 01:44 PM

Fully recovered and re-lubricated after Whitby now. Must make plans to do more festivals! I'm a bit surprised that more people have not been on here. I did invite everyone but it seems that not everyone likes to party politely :-) Oh - Dropped one of the daughters off in Manchester on the way home (ish!) and called into the graveyard I mentioned in the OP - The lads there had done a grand job.

I shall just say, Steve, that I was always told that if you cannot say something nice about someone, don't say anything. I'm keeping shtum ;-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 07:34 PM

Jaysus, what a great day. Wall to wall sunshine, twenty-three degrees. Burgers and bangers on the barbie. washed down with Aperol Spritzer followed by Morrisons Nero d'Avola. We raised a glass to our arrival in Cornwall thirty-one years ago today, and, to cap it all, Liverpool slaughtered Arsenal 4-0. What a shame that Michael, aka MGM Lion, Arsenal's number one fan, is no longer here to gloat at. He was a complete arse at times, but I miss him.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DMcG
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 04:28 PM

There is a wheel that was turned by donkeys, then a later one turned by horses. I only got a snap of the horse one.

But that reminds me of my Gneral Studies 'A' level exam. I think it was an excellent idea because it forced we science bods to learn something about art and architecture and the arts people to learn some science,

Anyway, one question was a woodcut of a horse turned wheel connected to some cog mechanism and we had to work out whether a rope at the end would be raised or lowered. All round the room were people moving their hands in small circles as they tried to work it out.

Another section was a language translation. Because of the way it was marked your lowest score was not included, so what the hell, I picked a section in Russian. I didn't even know the alphabet!

But my all time favourite exam question was in my 'O' level chemistry practical question which was insane, but as I think I have said it before I won't repeat it unless asked.


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Subject: RE: BS: All welcome on this thread
From: DaveRo
Date: 27 Aug 17 - 02:29 PM

Our (2001) NT handbook mentions "a Tudor wheelhouse". Did you see that? If so, what is it?


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