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BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.

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Subject: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 06:26 AM

Mr Rees Mogg is a distinguished parliamentarian and was recently touted as favourite to succeed Mrs May as leader of the Conservative Party.
On TV this week he was asked what his personal views were on abortion. he stated that he thought abortion was wrong in all circumstances as it involved the taking of an innocent human life, he said that he followed the teaching of the Cathilic Church in his personal views.
When asked about same sex "marriage", he also said that he followed the teaching of the Catholic Church on that issue, stating that Marriage was a sacrament and could only apply to the union of one man and one woman.

Should these views prevent Mr Rees Mogg from succeeding Mrs May, and do similar views held by devout Muslims equally disqualify them from public office?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 06:58 AM

"Mr Rees Mogg is a distinguished parliamentarian and was recently touted as favourite to succeed Mrs May as leader of the Conservative Party."
Lovely cartoon of Jarog in the Times yesterday depeicting him as an unborn foetus in a womb clutching a poster bearing the slogan "anti-gay, anti abortion and saying "Well, that's my leadership plan terminated"
Anybody holding these views and advocates opposition to pregancy termination in the cases of rape and incest should be sent for a cure somewhere, they have no place in public life.
Personally, I would have welcomed him as leader of the Tories - that would send their credibility to the bottom of the deepest ocean where it truely belongs
The man is an utter buffoon, though I'm sure his "nanny" was a very nice
lady
What nest Ake?
Ressurect Mary Whitehouse maybe?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Stu
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 07:06 AM

Oh dear.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Iains
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 07:24 AM

They are his personal beliefs, not those of his party.
I am sure many other politicians have beliefs well away from the mainstream. At Least Rees Mogg has the honesty to be open and upfront about his. With Corbyn it seems a slow drip drip of his beliefs, and maybe that is still only a voter friendly facade we see.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: DMcG
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 07:25 AM

Whatever the issue, holding a different opinion to the majority should not, and does not (in itself) disqualify a person from any position in Parliament. However, that is only half the story, or even less than half.
It matters a great detail whether you then attempt to impose your view on the people bia legislation and the fear of that could disqualify him. Then there is the problem thar MPs need to get elected and topics like this candamage a party (cf Rim Farron)


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: DMcG
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 07:28 AM

Blast, I was still editing that and changing Rim to Tim.


As i was saying, the upshot is such views can make a person unsuitable for the role. That is not the same as a formal disqualification.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 07:48 AM

"They are his personal beliefs, not those of his party."
Ake asked whether he si fir to hold office as Prime Minister - not what his personal views were
Anbody advocation such archaic veiws which adversely affect a huge swathe of the British population is not - surely,
The fact that he admits being mad as a bag of frogs doesn't change the fact that he is as mad as a bag of frogs one iota
Corbyn is upfront in his views and has won the leadership on the basis of his beliefs
Let's hope Jarog puts up and brings a few more out of the woodwork - it did wonders when Loose Bruce came out
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Iains
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 08:13 AM

"They are his personal beliefs, not those of his party."
Ake asked whether he si fir to hold office as Prime Minister - not what his personal views were.
and your point is?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 08:48 AM

That he is not fit to run a creche, never mind a country - what's yours?
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 08:48 AM

Let history repeat itself. The Tories elected a terrible leader who went and lost them their majority. Go on, Tories, do it again -- please!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 09:04 AM

He is jumping on the Trump bandwagon. Pander to the vociferous minorities to get the gutter press on your side (it sells newspapers) and you are on a winner. I can't see it working this time and I can only hope that it does give enough rope to the Tory party.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 09:55 AM

He is an arrogant slime, reminds me of a former partner in Binder Hamlin Chartered Accountants - Angus Gilroy!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 10:01 AM

In a TV interview he was asked for his personal opinions/beliefs and he stated them.
It may cause him political problems or censure.
He is, of course, entitled to hold opinions, and to express them (unless they amount to an incitement of racial hatred).
He could have either declined to answer (in which case he would have been hounded for an answer) or he could have lied.
Would taking either of those courses have made him a better person?
Lying may have made him more suitable to be a politician, but is that a good thing?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Raggytash
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 10:12 AM

Rees Mogg is an anachronism, his beliefs are archaic, outdated and serve no useful purpose in the 21st century, not even to the Tory party.

Lets hope he gets the leadership, though I can't see it happening myself, the Tories are not that daft .......... are they.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 10:17 AM

Jayz, Bonzo, if even you don't like him he must be bad! 😂


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Stu
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 10:32 AM

Nasty piece of work parading as an amiable buffoon. Must be some sort of toffs trick as Boris employs the same subterfuge too, and Farage's public persona is a similar construct. Works on a fair wodge of us proles though, more's the pity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 10:35 AM

I've seen worms with more charisma and character than this piece of shit.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 11:31 AM

Well, Only the usual "suspects" Iains, Nigel, and DmcG, have said anything of interest, or even addressed my question.

Nobody has commented on the issue regarding devout Muslims and their suitability for office.
The Muslim faith teaches that homosexuality is a cardinal sin, punishable by death.....Abortion is of course completely proscribed.
But you all love the Muslim faith.....don't you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Stu
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 11:46 AM

Sigh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 11:56 AM

"have said anything of interest, "
Then again, you are not interested in facts - you certainly refuse to respond to them
Your postings become more and more like unqualified graffiti
"The Muslim faith teaches that homosexuality is a cardinal sin, punishable by death."
So does the Christian faith in many cases - punishable by eternal damnation - far worse for a believer
"But you all love the Muslim faith.....don't you?"
If I thought you would respond with actual evidence, I'd ask you to produce a single shred of proof of this statement - you won't so I will settle for failure to do so as evidence of it being pure invention on your part
Why do you do this Ake - it isn't even dignified, let alone logical
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 12:19 PM

Ake:
I see nothing that would debar a Muslim from serving in HM Government, unless it was un unwillingness to take the oath of office (which has in the past prevented some Irish MPs from attending)


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 12:37 PM

What do you know about dignity, you are a cheap ranter with nothing to contribute.
Mr RM makes the point avoided by many "liberals", that human life begins at conception. He sees the anomaly in a 24 week old foetus having the "right to life", yet a 23 week old does not.
It has also been brought to my attention that a child at full term can be legally killed if the child is disabled...this may or may not be true perhaps someone on the thread knows?

If one accepts the principle of the "right to life" one must oppose abortion.
Nigel makes some good points, Had Mr RM lied or refused to answer, would he be a better person.....do we actually want politicians who habitually lie.
Mr RMis very well liked in political circles by people of all political persuasions, he has an excellent grasp of parliamentary procedure and uses reasoned argument at all times.....unlike most of the "contributors" here, but I have no doubt he will be hounded by jackals like Morgan and his sidekick from now onward.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 12:44 PM

Yes Nigel but would he be judged as harshly as Mr Rees Mogg on his social views or his adherence to his faith, by our "liberal" colleagues?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 12:49 PM

"What do you know about dignity, you are a cheap ranter with nothing to contribute."
Very wel argued ake - I doubt if I could aspite to that level of discussion
"right to life"
The right to life, as advocated by the anti-choicers, doesn't apply to mothers who stand to die if their unborn children's life is at stake, or to the raped pre-teen children who have ben refused terminations when their lives were at risk.
A great deal of thought and discussion ahs taken place to decide time limits of when pregnancy termination is permissible and not and laws have been made on the basis of those discussions - only the medievalist fundamentalists like yourself still oppose them - based largely on the demands of superstition-ridden celibate old men who don't even regard women as important to hold office in their churches
You describe me as "out of date", but, as with homosexuality, you still plouter round in medieval darkness
You really are something else
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Iains
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 01:27 PM

I do not anticipate this thread lasting too much longer.

Rees Mogg is articulate and certainly not stupid. Any policies he may introduce depend on his party's backing. His personal thoughts and beliefs may or may not sway his party and/or the electorate.
He is apparently a politician able to give honest answers, even if controversial. The usual pack would obviously prefer to hear what they want to hear from a politician. maybe they even believe what they say!
Now what about bliar blair and weapons of mass destruction. Led us into an illegal war.

What is more important: having a personal belief in banning abortion?
                        Taking a country to war and having a
                        responsibility for the ensuing death toll

Squeals on a postcard please!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 01:28 PM

Ten...
Nine...
Eight...


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 02:04 PM

The Tories also voted for that war.

"If one accepts the principle of the "right to life" one must oppose abortion."

Please just shut up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Stu
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 02:18 PM

Time for the off button...


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Teribus
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 02:27 PM

Anytime Rees-Mogg has appeared on Question Time he acquitted himself far, far better than his fellow panellists. Anytime he spoke to address a point EVERYONE fell silent to listen to what he had to say - Not always the case on that programme:

"Mr Rees?Mogg previously described the victory for the Leave campaign as "a wonderful liberation for the country", adding "no political event in my lifetime has been better or more exciting for the nation".

Following a particularly impassioned speech in the Commons earlier this year, Brexit secretary David Davis declared: "As ever, my right honourable friend speaks for England."

The question of a second referendum was raised and Mr Rees?Mogg calmly declared that democracy must be respected.

On Question Time he added: "This is characteristic of the EU, vote in a way that Brussels does not like and you have to vote again until they have done what they tell you.
[Ask the electorate of Ireland that is precisely what has happened to them TWICE now]

"It seems to me that we had a referendum, we voted to leave and that must be implemented or we deny democracy."


As for this:

"Rees Mogg is an anachronism, his beliefs are archaic, outdated and serve no useful purpose in the 21st century, not even to the Tory party."

Well I will grant that he is honest and has integrity which does set him out as being liable to accusations of being "anachronistic" in comparison to our current crop of politicians. But greatly to his credit, he does not squat down in railway carriages and complain about there being no seats when there is documented video coverage of the fact that there were seats available.

As for "beliefs being outdated" - I do not believe that he would waste anytime attempting to restore the reputation of Leon Trotsky a-la Jeremy Corbyn. But I suppose to some on this forum that is real "finger-on-the-pulse" stuff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 02:44 PM

Is this the 10 minute argument or the full half hour?

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 03:07 PM

I've told you once !

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: DMcG
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 03:11 PM

I could be arguing in my spare time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 03:13 PM

Seven...
Six...
Five...


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Iains
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 03:30 PM

I much prefer an honest politician, anachronism though the species may be. Could have done with more of his ilk when dodgy dossiers were being conjured up, and force fed to the unsuspecting electorate as holy writ.
Rather than bringing the desirability of religious affiliations into the equation, where again any proposals having a religious slant would need party support and parliamentary approval to make any headway, I would prefer to ban anyone holding dual nationality from holding any kind of public office.
What nationality would have the over riding loyalty?
Think Brexit and dual anglo-french, anglo-german nationality, or anglo-irish.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 04:49 PM

Despite all that, Teribus, thing is, he's a twat.


I don't think he should be banned from being Tory leader. I think he's the ideal candidate. The sooner the better! As for the indignant and Islamophobic nonsense of the opening post, the obstinate fact is that he can't be banned. However, he CAN be not selected by the Tories. They are the only people who can "ban" him. And they suck, so let 'em get on with it, say I.

In fact, despite all these claims about his alleged honesty, his antediluvian telly outburst about abortion and gay marriage was a coded message that he doesn't want to be Tory leader in a million years. As a matter of fact, he's always said that he loves being a back-bencher. Not so straightforward after all. Typical devious politico, in fact. 😂


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 04:50 PM

I would be very interested in a contribution from Joe who is a Catholic I believe.
Mr RM bases his views on Catholic teaching, I have no religious faith but find myself understanding his views and agreeing for the most part.

Jim's point regarding a pregnancy which put the mother's life at risk is interesting, how would Jacob deal with that quandary?
Would leaving it to God be a cop out? Should it be the mother's decision in that case?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 05:00 PM

Rees-Mogg's catholicism came from his Irish-American grandmother, the male line were protestant vicars and coal owners in north east Somerset. Members of that family both baptised some of my ancestors into the anglican church, and sent them to work down coal mines at the age of 11. Of course, not only did the catholicism come into the family by that route, so did the new money as the pits in Somerset were exhausted by the late 19th century. A bit like Churchills and Vanderbilts really. If he can be shown to be entitled to either an Irish or an American passport, then I would agree, in this one instance with Iains, that he should be banned from public office. In Australia, people seem to have been decreed to be ineligible for office as they have been found to have nationalities that they were entirely unaware of.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Teribus
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 05:32 PM

Being eligible for dual or multi-nationality is one thing. Actually applying for it and holding it is another entirely. Does anyone KNOW that Jacob Rees-Mogg HOLDS either an Irish, or American Passport? I rather doubt that he does. I think that having had an Irish-American grandmother is a bit tenuous for claiming US Citizenship - might even be true for the Irish connection as well - can't really be arsed to look it up but I think it has got to be direct parent, and even with that there are qualifications.

By the bye Shaw I would rather have hoped by now that you would have realised that I am not in the least bit interested in your opinions on anything. Were that not the case, the fact that you seem to have such a particularly low opinion of the man would only recommend him to me better than a glowing reference from anyone else - If he has prompted your ire then he must be doing something right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Teribus
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 05:32 PM

Being eligible for dual or multi-nationality is one thing. Actually applying for it and holding it is another entirely. Does anyone KNOW that Jacob Rees-Mogg HOLDS either an Irish, or American Passport? I rather doubt that he does. I think that having had an Irish-American grandmother is a bit tenuous for claiming US Citizenship - might even be true for the Irish connection as well - can't really be arsed to look it up but I think it has got to be direct parent, and even with that there are qualifications.

By the bye Shaw I would rather have hoped by now that you would have realised that I am not in the least bit interested in your opinions on anything. Were that not the case, the fact that you seem to have such a particularly low opinion of the man would only recommend him to me better than a glowing reference from anyone else - If he has prompted your ire then he must be doing something right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 06:01 PM

I heard you first time, Bill.

He does not invoke my ire. He's a joke who is no threat to any ideals I may subscribe to. Actually, considering that you're not interested in my opinions, it's somewhat amazing that you home in on me more than on anyone else bar Jim. I'm sure that someone who "can be arsed to look it up" could analyse that statistically. I suppose it emanates from your underlying insecurity, so often laid bare on this forum. Let's keep on having fun, Monsieur Woodcock.

I would imagine that most thinking Catholics, Joe included (who, sensibly, probably isn't reading this) would distance themselves from this chap's intolerant and bigoted outbursts. You don't have to be in favour of abortion to accept that it's the right of any woman to make those decisions for herself, even if you accept restrictions. You don't have to like the idea of gay marriage to accept that ordinary, decent human beings want to embrace that for themselves and that, when they do, it won't do you or anyone else one iota of harm.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Iains
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 06:15 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Jeremy_Corbyn

and you have the temerity to accuse the lucid, right honourable Mr. Rees Mogg of being mad as a bag of frogs??????

I trust you jest!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Gallus Moll
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 06:41 PM

Mildly interesting that all those discussing an event that only happens to women, and is the right of any woman to choose (or not) ---appear to be male? (I assume the pseudonyms are all male)


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 06:59 PM

I guess this stuff passes for tossing red meat to starving conservative crowd.

In the US we call this stuff the never ending culture war.

Jeez this stuff is for tossers. A gay marriage abortion thread, what will they think of next?

How about a thread just on abortion? or marriage?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 07:18 PM

You're not wrong, Gallus Moll. It gets me every time. Should I say nothing though?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: JeffB
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 07:44 PM

Well, here you all go again, dancing to ake's tune while he's laughing up his sleeve at you. You lot never learn. He posts something provocative, everyone jumps in, then you start arguing amongst yourselves, then it turns into a vicious slanging match, and once in a while he posts again to stir things up. Why do you bother to even reply to his posts and play his infantile game? Do you really think you can change his mind? Do you think he is remotely interested in your opinions? He's just a troll. He enjoys winding you up. He doesn't think in a rational way; he has merely a visceral hatred of liberal opinion which he cannot articulate because he chooses not to think rationally. What he believes to be his considered opinions are nothing but a kind of frustrated emotion fuelled by aggressive discontent, like all the other bigoted trolls which infest the internet.

I have asked him a couple of times to say exactly what aspects of liberal political philosophy he disagrees with, and why, and he refuses to reply. Because he can't. Because thought, of an impartial analytical rational sort, is beyond him. What he can do though, and what he delights in, is getting "liberals" in a lather. It proves to him that he is better than you.

Best thing to do is to stop posting to this thread, and ignore him in future.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Sep 17 - 08:14 PM

Yeah, well, Jeff, the last time you posted to BS was a response to an Ake post and you typed twice as much as you've done here. Thing is, the odds are that someone would have brought up Moggie sometime around now in any case. The fact that troll-face did it first is, well, a tad irrelevant, and his follow-up posts on this thread have demonstrated just how irrelevant he is. So forget akenaton and yak on about Jake. Or just forget it and play a tune. We have choices!


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Sep 17 - 03:01 AM

This issue has caused a bit of a furore in the UK....current affairs.
It was instigated by the mainstream media as a political bear trap and Mr RM's response has dealt with it pretty well.
His beliefs are "based on the teaching of the Catholic Church"

The issue regarding the views on homosexuality and abortion held by devout Muslims is never discussed....... why the double standards?


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Sep 17 - 03:20 AM

JRM


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Sep 17 - 03:25 AM

Jeff, what YOU refer to as "trolling", I see as stimulation of discussion.

If you dislike discussion of controversial subjects, just remain above it all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees Mogg.
From: Teribus
Date: 09 Sep 17 - 03:32 AM

The most apt "Muslim" example on record would appear to be the current Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, who voted for Gay Marriage and supports abortion - he received death threats for doing so from fellow Muslims. I do not believe that things have got to that state yet with regard to Jacob Rees-Mogg.


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