BS: Post Brexit life in the UK

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 02 Dec 17 - 02:39 PM

More good news from Guido. The man that tells it like it is!


http://commentcentral.co.uk/remainers-are-programmed-to-ignore-the-brexit-good-news/

Now stand by for the mudrat's chorus!

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 02 Dec 17 - 05:04 PM

Seen any sign of your personal Unicorn yet?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Dec 17 - 05:14 PM

a racist, xenophobic, feeble-minded minority who enjoy taking it up the arse from a small group of immensely-wealthy tax-exiles

Boy, sounds just like our tRump supporters who are absulutely JUBILANT that they're going to be taking it up the ass with the new tax bill.

Go figure!

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Dec 17 - 05:24 PM

Well I won't click on that!

You're being an idiot, Iains. There are three people who you could even remotely hope to impress with these childish right-wing links and only one of them is still here. He's the one I shall now address.

Keith, still no answer. The question once again: if you pull out for good reason, is that not OK? If you disagree, tell me why. So far, you've failed, just shilly-shallying around with your ideological waffle.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 03:47 AM

At the risk of being an armchair psychologist, I think the reaction to Trump's tax changes is understandable - it is seen as him overcoming challenges after a long battle, and a harbinger of him doing so in some of the promises he made they see as personally advantageous. If you like, they see it as reaffirming the vote they made in the first place.

I predict disappointment to come.

We could get a similar effect here. To date, there is nothing that has happened to give the Leavers the same boost. But if the EU, for example, were to concede to no payments, we would see the same. In the meantime the Leavers have to live on "we won, get over it".

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 03:48 AM

"http://commentcentral.co.uk/remainers-are-programmed-to-ignore-the-brexit-good-news/ "
The blogged views of an untraceable individual on a site with extreme right wing Tory links who is arguing that everybody who opposes Brexit (remind us how many voted against it) have been brainwashed to do so
What is there to say more than that Iains?
Your blogger will find his place in heaven next to extremist right winger, Guido Fawkes and the Russian billionaire who believes Assad has been sadly misjudged.
Where is there a single shred of information in your linked outpourings of opinion?
You people continue to shuffle around the facts of Brexit - that it was a bad idea sold on Xenophobia and has been totally bungled to crisis point by an idiotic Government who even threw away their own majority.
If more proof were needed, look to the swing away from these clowns at the last election to judge how many voters have changed their mind

If you think Brexit has been difficult, just wait until agreement has been reached - if it ever will be!
There are 1.5 million Brits living in Europe at the present time - at the last count 30,000 of them were drawing unemployment benefit.
Are there secret discussions taking place to ascertain that these people will be allowed to stay on (and continue drawing dole) or is the Government busy creating jobs and accommodation for when they have to return.
So far, it is only dribbles of pee that have hit the fan - wait till the real turds start flying!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 03:57 AM

The mudrats chorused, as predicted.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 04:06 AM

More positioning from Rees-Mogg, I think. He knows it incredibly unlikely the Brexit team can get these demands agreed, but I suspect is aiming more at getting any angry voters on his side come the next election.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 04:56 AM

"The mudrats chorused, as predicted."
The lack of response from you was equally predicted
You have no interest in argument or even discussion Iains - you are mindlessly using this thread as an attempt to promote a decision that has provd catastrophic to the British people as a whole
AS with all 'patriots' your loyalty lies with the Tory right - the Brits may just as well go sleep in the park as your attitude showed when you suggested that the victims of the Grenfell Tower fire should be left to fend for themselves rather than allow them the use of vacant property
You are no more than an Establishment 'tart without a heart'
Keep it up - you impress no-one with your vacuous insult and you provide a useful example of a society that doesn't give a fuck
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 05:26 AM

Rag,
"Every opinion I have expressed on this thread is my own"

I wonder if that includes the pound "soaring" after a rise of one half of one cent. (less than falf of one percent.)

I never expressed that opinion.
My point was that that you were wrong about the growth figures being bad. That was my opinion and I backed it with reports in both the Telegraph and Independent which both said the growth figures were good.

I did not choose them for their comments on the currency, but you people chose to make an issue of that.
I did not.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 05:35 AM

Jim,
"If it is closed, it will not be by UK."
The Border will be closed because of Brexit

Yes, but it does not need to be. That is my point.

Do not be stupid Keith - The North is part of Britain on the insistence of the DUP - why should Ireland make any sacrifices?

They should not. Closing the border would be a massive blow to them and EU should not force it on them just to punish us.

You really are a desperately stupid man if you think somebody can actually leave an organisation and still reap the benfits of membership

We do not want any of the "benefits."
We would like free trade, but other non members have that and without paying either.

Tell you what - why can't Britain just tell Norther Ireland to piss off and go and be a part of mainland Ireland - wouldn't that solve everything?

Sadly no. They have to want it. We believe in their right to self determination.

It's only a terrorist based party that is preventing that from happening

No. It is the will of the Irish people.

Too many points for one post again Jim.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 05:42 AM

Steve,
Keith, still no answer. The question once again: if you pull out for good reason, is that no OK?

I did answer. I do not think that any reason is good enough for depriving the people of NI of their Parliament, and depriving the Nationalist people of NI of any representation at all.

Do you think their reason for doing that was a good one?
Do you even know what it was?
Do you know it was nothing to do with Brexit and this is just another of Jim's thread hijackings?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 05:57 AM

"Closing the border would be a massive blow to them and EU "
Closing the border is simply returning to the same position as anybody outside of the EU
The border was closed right up to a few decades ago - Britain being part of Europe opened it up and Britain's leaving has now threatened to close it
Ireland is full of European workers at present and they are all welcomed as an asset to the economy
At present Europeans are LEAVING BRITAIN in their thousands, thanks to the inescure future brought about by Brexit
Do you think the Xenophobes who voted for Brexit will be happy when Europeans from Ireland start crossing into the North and then into mainland Britain through an open Border?
That will be a betrayal of what they voted for - getting rid of foreigners
This is the great contradiction of Brexit - a move to stop immigration while at the same creating a situation where Brits abroad, including 30,000 unemployed, are quite likely to be forced to move back to a Britain that can't cope with shortages in health care, housing and employment
Your mindless repetition of Europe forcing a closed border is reaching the point of imbecility


"Too many points for one post again Jim."
You really shouldn't be here if you can't follow the argument
You are using "too many posts" to avoid honestly responding to any of them
All these points have been raised before and you and your mates have ignored them all persistently and are continuing to do so.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 06:05 AM

Didn't finish
Your repetition of Europe "forcing a closed border" has reached the point of imbecility
BRITAIN HAS CHOSEN TO LEAVE EUROPE - IN DOING SO, THEY HAVE ABANDONED ANY CLAIM TO THE RIGHTS OF EUROPEAN MEMBERSHIP
AS OUTSIDERS, THEY ARE SUBJECT TO THE SAME FRONTIER LAWS AS ANY NON-MEMBER - THE SAME LAWS THAT BRITAIN IMPOSES ON EVERY FOREIGN NATIONAL WISHING TO ENTER.
NOW YOU ARE BLAMING THE ORGANISATION IT HAS CHOSEN TO LEAVE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES OF LEAVING - UTTERLY IMBECILIC
(The red highlighting is to help you with the points you are having difficulty with)
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 06:29 AM

Jim,
The border was closed right up to a few decades ago - Britain being part of Europe opened it up and Britain's leaving has now threatened to close it

Not true. It was only a security border not a trade or tariff border.
It was opened by the ending of the troubles.

Ireland is full of European workers at present and they are all welcomed as an asset to the economy

Yes, here too.

Do you think the Xenophobes who voted for Brexit will be happy when Europeans from Ireland start crossing into the North and then into mainland Britain through an open Border?

Who cares what xenophobes think? Visitors from EU will always be welcome here.

That will be a betrayal of what they voted for - getting rid of foreigners

Who cares what xenophobes think. The rest of us did not vote for that.

Your mindless repetition of Europe forcing a closed border is reaching the point of imbecility

Sorry, but it is a fact that UK has declared it will not impose one but EU is threatening to.

BRITAIN HAS CHOSEN TO LEAVE EUROPE - IN DOING SO, THEY HAVE ABANDONED ANY CLAIM TO THE RIGHTS OF EUROPEAN MEMBERSHIP

Yes. Obviously.

AS OUTSIDERS, THEY ARE SUBJECT TO THE SAME FRONTIER LAWS AS ANY NON-MEMBER -
Yes, and none of them require border posts.

THE SAME LAWS THAT BRITAIN IMPOSES ON EVERY FOREIGN NATIONAL WISHING TO ENTER.

UK and Ireland both allow people from EU to enter and that will continue after Brexit, so it is not an issue.

Too many points at a time again Jim.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 06:57 AM

your view on the content and timing of what are being reported as "nine new red lines" by Rees Mogg and co?

(Personally, I don't that all are reasonably described as 'new' but it is at least fair to call them re-emphasised).

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 06:59 AM

I am making an impressive mess of this. First the wrong thread, then only half of it copied! What it is supposed to say is:

Moving on from well-tilled ground, Keith, what your view on the content and timing of what are being reported as "nine new red lines" by Rees Mogg and co?

(Personally, I don't that all are reasonably described as 'new' but it is at least fair to call them re-emphasised).

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 07:16 AM

Amusing examples of politicians at work today. In those red lines it says trade deal agreed by 2018. Andre Marr spoke to Rees Mogg and asked if was a misprint and should be 2019. Of course, agreed Jacob, he isn't changing the date, it is a simple misprint.

A little later, over on Peston another minister insists he did mean 2018 and that is quite right.

That's real life for you.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 07:18 AM

"Yes, and none of them require border posts."
ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR ******* MIND?
"UK and Ireland both allow people from EU to enter"
"UK and Ireland both allow people from EU to enter and that will continue after Brexit, so it is not an issue."
A typical half truth - work permits will be necessary and that means border checks
That is what the Irish row is about, you stupid little man - whether the border will be a land one or a sea one.
"EU citizens will still be able to travel to and live in Britain after Brexit under new immigration plans, it has been reported.
But a system of permits will limit the number of working migrants under the Home Office proposals.
Theresa May said on July 31 that it was “wrong” to suggest free movement of people will “continue as it is now” after March 2019.
After this date, EU workers moving to the UK will have to register until a permanent post-Brexit immigration policy is put in place.
In September, a leaked Home Office paper revealed the UK plans to cap the number of low-skilled EU migrants - confirming an end to free movement after Brexit."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2822423/eu-citizens-uk-after-brexit-freedom-of-movement-visas-immigration-figures/
"Too many points at a time again Jim."
This is getting more and more like talking to a child with learning difficulties
I'm only responding to your inanities because you are presenting a perfect example of the ignorance, arrogance and ill-thought out nature of Brexit
If you can't keep upo piss off
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 08:23 AM

A typical half truth - work permits will be necessary and that means border checks

No it does not.
They free to come but can not legally obtain work while they are here. EU citizens will no longer have a privileged position over non-Europeans, which is actually racist.

Well done on restricting yourself to one point this time.
Thanks Jim.

DMcG, I agree with Rees Mogg and everything he said on Marr today.
You?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 08:47 AM

"EU citizens will no longer have a privileged position over non-Europeans, which is actually racist."

You mean non-Europeans like Aussies, Kiwis, Yanks and Canadians? So what race do they belong to, Keith?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 09:07 AM

"No it does not. "
For Christ's sake Keith - you've just been an official account of what non citizens have to do to enter Europe
Is that faked?
Eurpeans living in Britain will fave four months grace before they have to
apply for a work-permit
Racist -are you mad!!!!
The E.U. removed a huge amount of racism in Britain - Brexit was fought on racism and stands to replace all the barriers again
Squalid, squalid argument
I ask again - is little Britain going to be happy to see Europeans entering their country via Ireland, as you are proposing?
"Well done on restricting yourself to one point this time.
Thanks Jim"
Not for your benefit Keith - the last posting was an addenda to everything I have posted and which you have ignored, and will continue to do so
This gets more and more mindless - you never have managed to shake your lifelong practice of humiliating yourself in publi, have you?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 09:22 AM

I don't think the signatories believe they are achievable by any negotiation, Keith, and not the day (or perhaps the fortnight) before an agreed position has to be announced. It seems to be more about positioning than actually achieving anything more concrete.

For example if Ireland/the EU needs to be convinced that there is some mechanism for harmonised regulation across the border to prevent a hard border I would be astonished if they could agree to no regulations after 2019 having an effect.   The same is true for EU residents in the UK and the role of the ECJ.

So this all 'hard Brexit', so in effect no agreement. Which does require a hard border, in most people's opinion, though I accept you don't think so. And I believe that is the worst possible deal - again, I know you don't agree.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 02:08 PM

DMcG,
Which does require a hard border, in most people's opinion, though I accept you don't think so.

Neither does UK government and neither does the head of HM Revenue and Customs.

Jim, anyone that Ireland allows to enter is welcome to enter UK.
UK will not be stopping anyone at the border.
We do not want or need a hard border.

Racist -are you mad!!!!

Yes. Giving preference to Europeans over other groups, Asians and Africans for instance, would be racist.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 03:08 PM

"Jim, anyone that Ireland allows to enter is welcome to enter UK.
UK will not be stopping anyone at the border.
We do not want or need a hard border."
Don't be stupd again Keith
People who wish to stay in Britain wll be granted four weeks to do so, people seeking to work there will need to acquire a work permit
The point of Brexit was to keep foreigners out - now you are claiming that the Government lied and people are free to work there as long as they enter via Ireland - how stupid can you get?
That has what has been destroyed by Brexit and the opposite is the case
Unless the million plus Brits live in Europe
I ask again and will continue to do so until you respond (because I new fully enjoy watching you humiliate yourself
is little Britain going to be happy to see Europeans entering their country via Ireland, as you are proposing?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 03:31 PM

Jim,
People who wish to stay in Britain wll be granted four weeks to do so, people seeking to work there will need to acquire a work permit

Now you are just making stuff up.
UK has stated it will not stop any EU people coming and staying as long as they want.

The point of Brexit was to keep foreigners out

If you mean control migration then yes.
EU citizens can come and stay as long as they want but will not have access to benefits or the right to work. That does not require border controls.

is little Britain going to be happy to see Europeans entering their country via Ireland, as you are proposing?

Yes.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Raggytash
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 03:33 PM

Oh dear, No mention of Martin McGuinness or five (or ten) DUP MP's.

Must have been too much for him to cope with.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 04:33 PM

The position paper can be downloaded from here

It does say there must not be a hard border. But there are a lot of caveats: "as frictionless as possible" for example (So some friction then? How?) And so on. Anyway, this is today's reading exercise. Tomorrow is another day...

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 03:26 AM

From the Guardian, 4th December:

====
May had been given the deadline of Monday 4 December to table the offers before a European council summit on 14 December, when EU leaders will decide if "sufficient progress" has been made to proceed to the next phase.


But although the money and citizens' rights issues have been mostly resolved, the future arrangement with Ireland has remained a significant obstacle because the British government has yet to offer a firm commitment explaining how it will guarantee avoiding a return to a hard border after Brexit.
[...]
Chances of a deal with British officials had been put at 50:50 on Sunday afternoon, but at midnight Brussels time, officials said an agreement had not been reached.

====

I haven't seen a reference anywhere else to the midnight statement. Of course, we may still be playing brinkmanship.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 03:55 AM

"UK has stated it will not stop any EU people coming and staying as long as they want. yes"
You are mad!!!!
The Irish live and work in Britain because of a 'special arrangement' agreed to in 1922
The idea that European will b able to continue to enter Britain via Ireland after Brexit goes against very promise of those campaigning to leave
May's statement says that the aim is to limit foreign workers by limiting the flow from Europe as well as elsewhere
"a system of permits will limit the number of working migrants under the Home Office proposals."
Theresa May said on July 31 that it was “wrong” to suggest free movement of people will “continue as it is now” after March 2019.
After this date, EU workers moving to the UK will have to register until a permanent post-Brexit immigration policy is put in place.
In September, a leaked Home Office paper revealed the UK plans to cap the number of low-skilled EU migrants - confirming an end to free movement after Brexit.
Freedom of movement allows EU citizens to live and work in and in certain circumstances access the welfare system of any other EU country.
The government document, dated August 2017, spells out dramatic plans to slash the number of Europeans entering Britain.
Bosses may also be forced to recruit British workers first before looking overseas.
And ministers may restrict new work permits to occupations where there is a shortage of workers
"No border posts"
The border checks for Europeans coming in will be exactly the same as those in Europe restricting non member citizens - after Brexit the Brits in Europe will be subject to the same restrictions.
Tou are making things up
Until you and Iains start responding honestly to the situation hyou are just haunting this thread like smelly farts
What the fuck do you think all the argument about the Irish border is about if a Little Brit like you can just declare it is not needed
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 04:44 AM

Jim, migrants come to work here and receive help if not working.
Europeans are free to come here but they will not be allowed to work without a permit or receive benefits.
We will not be stopping people entering from Europe, but Europeans will no longer be given preference to settle over Africans and Asians which I would describe as racist.

You say it is mad, but it seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 04:48 AM

Rag,
Oh dear, No mention of Martin McGuinness or five (or ten) DUP MP's.

Rag, we all know since the last election that there are 10 DUP MPs who shore up the government.
I had been discussing the 5 dissidents from the Brexit committee and made a simple slip.
Shame on me, but I am only human and I was bound to make a mistake one day and there it is.

What do you want to know about McGuiness? Is it relevant to Brexit?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 05:10 AM

"Jim, migrants come to work here and receive help if not working."
Britain is claiming special privileges from Europe not granted to non-members when we leave, yet you are suggestion that should not be reciprocated towards Europeans wishing to lve in Britain
You're as mad as a bag of frogs Keith
To confirm that insanity, you are saying that the demands by Europe by the Irish Government and the DUP that there should be no closed border - either inland or on the coast, are not necessary because the British would be quite happy for Polish painters to use Ireland as an entry point to Britain rather than Heathrow
I reckon that Little Englanders like you should be forced to wear bells around their necks to warn the rest of us that you are in the vicinity!
"but I am only human "
Another claim that you can't prove!
Since when have humans lived on the Planet Zog?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 05:57 AM

Another cat thrown among the already toxic Brexit pigeons
Leading immigration lawyer, Simon Cox has suggested that Brexit will give the British Government the right to deport Irish citizens
That should really help things along
Is that too much information for you to deal with Keith?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 06:19 AM

Britain is claiming special privileges from Europe not granted to non-members when we leave,

Not true Jim.
We are asking for free trade, but other non members enjoy that for free already, and it would be mutually beneficial.

yet you are suggestion that should not be reciprocated towards Europeans wishing to lve in Britain

No I am not.

To confirm that insanity, you are saying that the demands by Europe by the Irish Government and the DUP that there should be no closed border - either inland or on the coast, are not necessary because the British would be quite happy for Polish painters to use Ireland as an entry point to Britain rather than Heathrow

They can come in either way and welcome, but they will need a permit to work while they are here.

Since when have humans lived on the Planet Zog?

No exo-planet has been found with any life at all Jim.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Stu
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 06:58 AM

No exo-planet has been found with any life at all Jim."

There's no sign of intelligent life on this one either Bones.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 07:34 AM

"No exo-planet has been found with any life at all Jim."

There's no sign of intelligent life on this one either Bones."

I went to the exercise class this morning and everyone was doing their workouts wearing duffle coats and wellies.

I thought to myself, it's gym life, but not as we know it...

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 12:03 PM

So the DUP have shat on May today. So near yet so far... no concessions to Dublin! I will not sit doyn with the men who sit doyn with the men who sit doyn...No popery! Never, never, NEVER!

Oh, and another twenty Tory MPs sharpening their knives. Not a great call, that election, was it!

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 12:33 PM

Should corbyn ever get in you will be able to have grandstand seats to a real disaster.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 01:17 PM

"Not true Jim."
'Course it it Keith -in't it always!!!
Academic anyway at present - the agreement reached by Britain and Ireland today was scuppers by a phone call from the DUP
Here we go Round the Mulberry Bush again
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 01:41 PM

"Should corbyn ever get in you will be able to have grandstand seats to a real disaster."
Maybe we should get May Morning Dew to call another election - that should get him in with a comfortable majority
Whoever follows May Blossom couldn't make a greater feck-up than she has...... whoops, forgot about Boris Johnson and Damian Green and Philip Hammond and Amber Rudd and David Davis and William Rees Mogg.....
Mind you - Green has shown he's got what it takes to hold office (or hold something!!!)
Amber Rudd is a bit busy saving Phillip Hammond from being sacked and David Davis is doing the same for Damien Green, Reese mogg has been laughed out of the race
Which leaves Boris - he's just the negotiator to get Brexit through
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 02:05 PM

" May Morning Dew"
A tad hypocritical you mudrats, doncha think?

"Until you and Iains start responding honestly to the situation hyou are just haunting this thread like smelly farts"

You call certain of us juvenile yet your little gem above is worthy of all we left behind in the lower classes of junior school. What a stunning command of English you have!

(and do try proofreading before you post. It would help us decipher what you are trying to babble about)
What an earth is hyou when it is home? An incantation to the God of bullshit?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 02:57 PM

"A tad hypocritical you mudrats, doncha think?"
You still are not responding to anything Iains - a tad typical, doncha think?
"hyou "
Mire typo's - an indication that you'd run out of ideas if you had ever been guilty of harbouring such things
I've just given you a load of Tory fuck-ups masquerading as politicians and all you can to is hurl childish abuse - says all that need to be said, doncha think
Grow up
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Stu
Date: 05 Dec 17 - 09:43 AM

The unedifying sight of a small bunch of knuckledragging bigoted pseudo-British gobshites holding the weak and ineffectually tory government by their shrivelled, husklike bollocks is one of the most pathetic sights I have ever seen. It's a nadir in democracy for this country.

Well done Brexiteers, you gave control to people of ignorance, bigotry and violence. You stupid twats.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 05 Dec 17 - 11:14 AM

Mr Rees Mogg for PM. All we need for brexit to go with a bang!

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Raggytash
Date: 05 Dec 17 - 11:39 AM

"What do you want know about Martin McGuinness, is it relevant to Brexit"

Hmmm .............

I seem to recall that YOU brought up the subject of Martin MCGuinness, so you tell me eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Raggytash
Date: 05 Dec 17 - 11:41 AM

Sadly Iains those "bangs" may be the sound of bombs.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Dec 17 - 11:44 AM

Still no comment on the actual situation of Brexit
Yaeterday's negotiations failed because an extremist sectarian party with terrorist links, who was apparently informed of Britain's intentions in advance of their being discussed with the EU representatives, phoned the PM and told her she no longer had their support in the negotiations.
THey have announced that the Northern Counties withdrawal from Europe must be exactly the same as that of Britain in order to ensure that it remains part of the UK
This more or less scuppers any hope of an open border between North and South.
Leader of the DUP, Arlene Foster, (still up top her arse in economic scandals) has called off the planned meeting between her and 'May or May Not' which calls into question there being a settlement before the end of the Year - The Sectarian Tail is now happily wagging the British poodle
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 05 Dec 17 - 11:54 AM

May made her bed, and now she's having to lie in it.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 05 Dec 17 - 12:07 PM

" and now she's having to lie in it."
Not on her own since she climbed into bed with the DUP
Jim Carroll