BS: Post Brexit life in the UK

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 30 Mar 18 - 09:08 AM

" his crowd gave us the Depression and later appeasement to the Nazis and World War Two"

Lloyd George was a liberal and formed a coalition government kicked out in 1922.

1922 Bonar Law         Conservative         Law ministry
1922
1923 Stanley Baldwin         First Baldwin ministry
1924 Ramsay MacDonald         Labour (minority)First MacDonald ministry
1924 Stanley Baldwin         Conservative         Second Baldwin ministry
1929 Ramsay MacDonald         Labour (minority)Second MacDonald ministry
1931 National         First National Government
1931 Second National Government
1935 Stanley Baldwin         Third National Government

1937 Neville Chamberlain         Fourth National Government
1939 Chamberlain war ministry
1940 Churchill(to sort everyone out!)

History does not support your statement. Liberals were bit players all the way through since the days of H. H. Asquith as PM

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 30 Mar 18 - 09:02 AM

"'Cos he took me out of the w'rkhouse
An' he gives me life that's free,
Five shillings a week for cheating death
Is what Lloyd George me.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 30 Mar 18 - 08:30 AM

"land fit for heroes" at the end of the first world war."
I'm well aware of that - his crowd gave us the Depression and later appeasement to the Nazis and World War Two
Jim Caaarroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 30 Mar 18 - 08:20 AM

Interestingly it was the staunch Liberal David Lloyd George who used the phrase "land fit for heroes" at the end of the first world war.
Before WW1 he introduced old age pensions for those over 70 and later introduced National Insurance against unemployment and ill health.
During the 1918 General Election campaign, Lloyd George promised comprehensive reforms to deal with poor education, housing, health and transport… ‘a land fit for heroes’. Although re-elected he remained dependent upon the coalition with the Conservatives, who had little intention of delivering such radical reforms.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 30 Mar 18 - 07:30 AM

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter"
He (or his scriptwriters) forgot to add that the powers that be took full advantage of the general ignorance and disenchantment to turn Britain into the haven for the privileged that it has become
A post war Labour Government began to live up to the promise of "a land fit for heroes to live in" by introducing health care for all and social house=ing (bitterly opposed by the Tories) and it took the career politics of later Tory Governments and Labour ones indistinguishable from "their honourable opponents" to renege on that promise ans eventually produce Little England's 'Brexit'
Ken Loach's 'Spirit of '45' documentary is well worth looking out, if you haven't seen it
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 30 Mar 18 - 03:00 AM

Winston Churchill is often reported as saying "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" and the group on Newsnight last night added weight to that. I was particularly unimpressed by the woman who said the Irish Border did not cross her mind when she voted. Now that is understandable if you live in Hampshire or Northumberland, but this woman lived 30 miles from the border. How can it not cross your mind if you grew up during or just after the Troubles?

As it happens I don't remember if she voted leave or remain: it is the lack of thought that is disturbing.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 03:10 PM

I'm not a big fan of Robert Peston and I guess he has never heard of me but his ITV1 documentary from the north east about brexit tonight is worth a watch on catch up.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 01:11 PM

"Brexit will be easy, and have no downsides".
If the "downsides" are not included in the campaigns people assume there are none - it's the same as promising there are none to exclude them
Such a nation-shattering decision has to be taken on the basis of all the evidence
As it is, the Government never carried out an EXIT STRATEGY STUDY before putting the onus on the people - it's already been stated by Tories for that insane fact
Brexit was never based on common sense or the future of Britain it was always an appeasement to the Little Britons
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 09:18 AM


Perhaps you need to read the article.
Under the Guardian's "Promise 1" It says "Brexit will be easy, and have no downsides".
The only quote given in that section which predates the referendum is from Michael Gove, and says: "The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want"

You should know me by now - I read everything in sight.   (I spent last night reading Google's terms and conditions on pne of their APIs - that's what happens when i run out of other thins to read.)

So yes, I has read the article before I posted. And my understanding of 'holding all the cards' is that a win will be easy. Isn't it yours?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 08:35 AM

Told you so... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 08:28 AM

Do we take that as agreement the quote that was before the vote was intended to influence things and relates to the heading

Perhaps you need to read the article.
Under the Guardian's "Promise 1" It says "Brexit will be easy, and have no downsides".
The only quote given in that section which predates the referendum is from Michael Gove, and says: "The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want"

Clearly it does not promise what the guardian claims is being promised, and any other quotes in that section were made after the vote had taken place.

What next? Gove states "two plus two is four", and the Guardian claims that that is a promise that it won't rain at all this July?
There should be some connection between their claims, and the quotes that they claim backs them up.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 08:21 AM

" People can't have been influenced by these quotes in their referendum decisions"
THey refer to specific promises Nigel - you know that as you have described them as "aspirations"
Basically, Brexit was sold on the basis of stopping immigration - that's what won it, economic and social warnings were largely ignored
The overall promise was that by coming out, Britain would be better off
All this quibbling is basically about the fact that that was an "aspiration" and it is fairly obvious that Britain most certainly will not be better off
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 07:56 AM

I think that is a fair assumption McG but I somehow doubt we will get that agreement.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 07:25 AM

Whatever they were, they were used by the leave campaign to influence people.
Looking at just the first 'promise'. There are quotes from 4 persons.
Three of those quotes date from after the referendum (23/6/16). I doubt that people were influenced in their voting by those quotes.

Do we take that as agreement the quote that was before the vote was intended to influence things and relates to the heading?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 05:51 AM

"I doubt that people were influenced in their voting by those quotes."
Why did people voye as they did if it wasn't because of what they were told at the time?

As I pointed out, the quotes given by the Guardian often date from after the referendum. People can't have been influenced by these quotes in their referendum decisions. So these quotes weren't "what they were told at the time".

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 05:29 AM

"I doubt that people were influenced in their voting by those quotes."
Why did people voye as they did if it wasn't because of what they were told at the time?
All politics is based on promises of 'Pie in the Sky'
Jim Caarroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 05:23 AM

Whatever they were, they were used by the leave campaign to influence people.
Looking at just the first 'promise'. There are quotes from 4 persons.
Three of those quotes date from after the referendum (23/6/16). I doubt that people were influenced in their voting by those quotes.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 05:18 AM

Some more "Guardian hype"

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 05:05 AM

"How puerile."
Your childish abuse is what is purile Iains - others respond (often badly) to your behaviour - you've behaved as you do from day one - go check
It's quite satisfying to bring a bully down, but it's far more pleasurable to watch him (it's always a man) bring himself down
While you continue to behave as you do, I'll continue to display your behaviour in bulk
The answer lies in your adopting a little self control and respect for others
Simples
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 04:54 AM

http://www.cityam.com/283078/finance-jobs-expected-moved-out-uk-due-brexit-now-half


https://order-order.com/2018/03/26/remain-campaign-used-exactly-spending-tactics-vote-leave-far-worse/









https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/journalist/electoral-commission-media-centre/news-releases-donations/details-of-ma

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 04:35 AM

"I've made a start on another thread, so keep it up, plenty more to go"
Feel free to waste your time! However if you wish to attribute statements to me do try to get it right. There are several in your list that sadly are jom lies. Seems you cannot even copy and paste correctly.
Also shaw can use "twat" with gay abandon and get a gold star. I repeat it and apparently armegeddon has arrived.
How puerile.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 04:17 AM

Whatever they were, they were used by the leave campaign to influence people. And, yes, before you say it, I have already acknowledged that the remain campaign were guilty of giving misinformation as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 04:15 AM

"The "11 promises" are not all phrased as 'promises', some are aspirations,"
Do you think those who voted saw them as that Nigel?
Like all election "promises, they were a con to win the vote for something else entirely
Immediately May Blossom "promised" that there would be "no hard border" her henchmen were there telling us that it was only an "aspiration", as essential as the matter is to the Irish people and the peace process
Waiting for the promises to be be broken is very much acting after the horse is bolted - are you joking?
Not so much "typical Guardian hype", more politicians speaking with forked tongues, as usual
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 04:03 AM

From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 03:19 AM

11 Brexit promises the government quietly dropped

An interesting link.
The "11 promises" are not all phrased as 'promises', some are aspirations, some just comments on how things are/were expected to happen.
The details of how the promises have been 'dropped' relate to matters still under discussion.
The time to discuss 'broken promises' is when promises have actually been broken. Much of what the link gives as having happened is still subject to negotiation.

Basically, typical Guardian hype.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Mar 18 - 03:19 AM

11 Brexit promises the government quietly dropped

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 08:31 PM

"By way congratulations on the extensive cut and paste jimmie. "
I've made a start on another thread, so keep it up, plenty more to go
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 07:54 PM

Try even harder than you have done recently not to be a twat, Iains.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 12:46 PM

I preferred Anneka Rice in a jumpsuit.

By way congratulations on the extensive cut and paste jimmie. Good to know you can get at least one thing right, doncha think?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 10:07 AM

"The thinking man's Trumpet".
MY GENERATION I'M AFRAID NIGEL
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 09:54 AM

I think Joan Bakewell was "The thinking man's crumpet".

There again, there's Alison Balsom
"The thinking man's Trumpet".

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 09:35 AM

Used to be Joan Bakewell at one time. Jayz, I'm showing my age...

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 09:18 AM

"Carol Vorderman".
"Tottie with brains - a deadly combination" as she was referred to in Liverpool
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 09:13 AM

Maybe Kylie is as smart as Carol!

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 09:08 AM

Stop saying things I'm forced to agree with, Nigel.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 09:07 AM

I could have said "Carol Vorderman". Then you wouldn't have known whether I was referencing intelligence or looks.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 09:02 AM

Tsk, Nigel. How politically incorrect can you get.



So do I.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 08:57 AM

From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 03:57 AM

No one likes a smart arse... :-)

Oh, I do. Kylie Minogue for example.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 05:47 AM

"what a silly game!"
Bit weak - even for youp
If you are unable to control your idiotic behaviour, at least you might try and put a bit of thought behind it and make it entertaining
This is idiotic drivel and you ***** know it if you ane not really the imbecile you project yourself as
Typos - really!!!!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 05:40 AM

I thunk? I still do.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 05:39 AM

It's there forever on the internet, Iains. That's the trouble. Can't fix it but behaviour can at least evolve.

Well, Stanron, you seem to have made your mind up that there can't have been any cheating, mud thrown, some will stick, etc. In fact, the Electoral Commission is obliged to look at new allegations, which is what these are. They've said that the enquiry into the spending is still open and that they don't comment on ongoing issues. "They've looked at this twice already" doesn't really cut it. If there's new information, so be it. I thunk that we should all want to know that the referendum was conducted fairly and it ill-behoves people on the leave side, which won by a narrow margin only, to try to shut the door on this. That just makes things look even more suspicious. Let's see what happens.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 05:07 AM

what a silly game! Still at least with shining examples of copy and paste we escape the constant mangleation of the poor english language.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 05:02 AM

Sorry - missed a bit
Your main contribution to one single thread
Jim Carroll

From: Iains - PM
Date: 27 Sep 17 - 10:46 PM
Twat.??

From: Iains - PM
Date: 28 Sep 17 - 03:29 AM
Jimmie I copied your little packmate shaw's insult to me just to watch your entirely predictable behaviour. You and your wannabe bullies apparently think you have carte blanche to post whatever you like, yet act like stuck pigs when the tables are turned. Did you censure the idiot shaw for his gratuitous insult above? One law for the pack and one for the rest of us is it?
When you cannot reciprocate in the discussion with well constructed argument you resort to insult-presumably to make all those people embarrassing you go away, by having the thread closed. What a silly little man you are!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 29 Sep 17 - 03:17 AM
It is no surprise contributors below the line are diminishing with the above learned contributions from our resident boasting "well educated scientist" Shaw you are a fool.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 29 Sep 17 - 10:36 AM
For STEVIE BLUNDER "When did I ever say I was well-educated?"
Tell me did you leave Catholicism because God decided he could not be a**sed to argue with you any longer?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 29 Sep 17 - 03:05 PM
So Shaw why do you not correct jimmies unique massacre of the english language? After all for a well educated "polymath" such as yourself it would be merely the matter of a moment.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 30 Sep 17 - 03:26 AM
Calm down Shaw you are getting hysterical. Is that because it took you two days to conjure up a response in the earthquake thread? The strain a bit too much for you?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 09 Oct 17 - 10:46 AM
Nought to do with bent bananas or dodgy cucumbers you stupid boy!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 14 Oct 17 - 03:30 AM
Getting very tetchy shaw! Is this because a few more are having the audacity to question your incessant gibberings?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 22 Oct 17 - 02:22 PM
But Shaw, our arguments are based on fact whereas yours are based on a complete fantasy. Your hubris blinds you to reality, you poor soul.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 20 Nov 17 - 10:43 AM
Is that a simple explanation from a simple mind?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 26 Nov 17 - 12:50 PM
Greg if you wish to publicly display your stupidity please continue.
Your nonsense is best confined to your insult the president thread", where all opposition is deleted

From: Iains - PM
Date: 26 Nov 17 - 04:35 PM
I fawt you was well educated! Let's see, in the last week you have claimed to be a scientist, a biologist, a zoologist. What are you claiming to be this coming week - a boring sandal wearing ex teacher that knows nothing? Are you perhaps a Walter Mitty?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 04:51 AM
The lad shaw is permanently confused: And as I said previously, a Walter Mitty

From: Iains - PM
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 03:36 PM
As mad as a hatter! Must be a remainder/remoaner.
Congratulations to Guido for unmasking this nutty professor.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 08:47 AM
"Someone to be taken very, very seriously - obviously!!"
You and your equally pathetic mates evidently think so, otherwise you would not continuously babble on about him.
I'm glad you appreciate his incisive style of accurate journalism.
No False news for him, by jingo!!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 12:02 PM
Here you are jimmie. Specially for you and your pathetic little mates.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 01:39 PM
So Jimmie is the independent the equivalent of Guido? a right wing site which excels itself in peddling conspiracy theories "
Someone to be taken very, very seriously - obviously!!
Answers on half a postcard please. Otherwise I may get bored.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 05:07 PM

D the G. I enjoy a circus, especially this one!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 06:06 PM
"In reality, you're one of the clowns."
Impossible my dear boy, when up against the likes of you! It is so much easier to choreograph the clowns.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 30 Nov 17 - 03:39 AM
What a pathetic little creature you are gnome. Pop back under your stone there's a good lad.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 30 Nov 17 - 06:29 AM
Jimmie and poxy little gnome. Try growing up!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 30 Nov 17 - 12:42 PM
Oh dear. Poor little mudrats. Is it the onset of second childhood or approaching senility that requires scraping the barrel for something to post. I put the Abbopotomus in the same category as you three. To be treated with the uttermost contempt.
Shaw:Calling politicians names and lampooning them is all par for the course. 'Twas ever thus. In fact, it's a healthy sign that we live in a democracy and not a dictatorship, in which "disrespecting" leaders could cost you your head. You silly little man.
Jimmie"Mayflower naused up her majority in an attempt to strengthen her hand and was forced to bung a Party with terrorist connections £1billion of the taxpayers money to clean up her mess"
The gnome." conniving scumbags like Farage"
Makes your previous posts kook rather pathetic. Doncha think? or perhaps that is the problem. You do not.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 30 Nov 17 - 02:11 PM
Hey Jimmie, you may be able to read but comprehension has to be labelled. MUST TRY HARDER!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 01 Dec 17 - 02:25 PM
Something for the rats to chew on!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 01 Dec 17 - 05:26 PM
It is not in the nature of you and your ilk to ignore a post. The rest of us totally ignore the bulk of the postings here. You are hooked on the sound of your own chattering, hence your vast number of posts.
As exemplified by the arch chatterer above.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 02 Dec 17 - 03:51 AM
Most have been driven away by your constant wittering.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 03 Dec 17 - 03:57 AM
The mudrats chorused, as predicted.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 04 Dec 17 - 02:05 PM
A tad hypocritical you mudrats, doncha think?
(and do try proofreading before you post. It would help us decipher what you are trying to babble about)
What an earth is hyou when it is home? An incantation to the God of bullshit?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 19 Dec 17 - 05:59 AM
Meanwhile the mudrat bullies can continue without censure.
No surprise few people continue to contribute to the BS part of mudcat.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 19 Dec 17 - 06:33 PM
The wizened little gnome definitely belongs on a different planet.
If not suggesting the opponents are stupid then the only other people left in the equation are himself and all who sail with him.
As the old adage goes:
Stupid is as stupid does

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains - PM
Date: 20 Dec 17 - 03:43 AM
Nice to see all the rats gather. Those that post the most irritate the most. Think how much better the forum would be if you all got a life.
"Anyone who considers this forum in terms of opponents and supporters is just not worth wasting time on."
What a funny little creature you are. You consistently post arrant nonsense.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 20 Dec 17 - 05:58 AM
The gnome is actually an accomplished verbal chameleon. He changes his argument as soon as he is challenged.
Now who might the others be on this forum that behave in like manner?
A clue. They spend most of the day babbling on mudcat to provide a false persona of assumed superiority to cover for their real life inadequacies.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 20 Dec 17 - 06:28 AM
I recommend you watch the follow on pizza video. It reminds me of many mindless discussions on mudcat.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 23 Dec 17 - 04:53 AM
Keith. The usual suspects treat the forum as a private club and as soon as the topic under discussion becomes uncomfortable for them they start their infantile tactics:
Discussing weeds, cheap booze and football.
Form into a ratpack and start bullying.
They then appeal to the moderators to close the thread.
Failing all the above they resort to trolling and puerile insults.
They also have a mutual appreciation society, where they can slap each other on the back when they feel they have trounced all contributors.
I suppose we should really feel sorry for them. If you look how many times a day they post, it is obvious they see reality in the cyber world. Perhaps the real world exposes their numerous inadequacies too sharply for comfort. Sad ,sad little men all of them.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 23 Dec 17 - 12:06 PM
Greg you disappoint me. I was under the misapprehension that you possessed half a brain cell. Obviously I was wrong. You are obviously listening too much to jimmie the half a b.
This is quite unlike your goodself and jimmy who can rightly claim to be leading gobshites.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 27 Dec 17 - 03:16 AM

"Ignore it, chaps."
I see the thread is graced with a festive clown!

Date: 31 Dec 17 - 10:35 AM
Twerp!!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 31 Dec 17 - 02:08 PM
jimmie i refer you to my posts:
Read assimilate digest you obnoxious little shit!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 03 Jan 18 - 01:24 PM
Hey jimmie. did they ever teach you to read at school? Valid ID is required, as I stated.
If you took your head out of your arse you would not have shit for brains!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 18 Jan 18 - 02:46 PM
Backwoodsman.
Do try to post something sensible.
Your last post is nothing but a pathetic attempt to troll, and you appear barely capable of doing that properly!

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains - PM
Date: 19 Jan 18 - 04:50 PM
Teribus, do you read anything other than pro-Brexit Tory Shit-Rags?


From: Iains - PM
Date: 20 Jan 18 - 04:23 AM
Well stevie blunder congratulations on the cut and paste. Repetition merely enforces my point of view, even a fool realises that!
Was it a failed attempt to make a link that lead to the crying "
Bwahahahaha! "
My commiserations. Keep trying. If a monkey can tap out a bible passage, there may be glimmer of hope for you yet!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 20 Jan 18 - 11:46 AM
I thought it hilarious. Just shows what miserable bas****ds the remainers are.


From: Iains - PM
Date: 21 Jan 18 - 05:54 AM
What a silly fellow you are backw...

From: Iains - PM
Date: 21 Jan 18 - 04:14 PM
and being called shaw does not mean you always have to be a total prat
you patronising little shit!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 24 Jan 18 - 09:35 AM
Is little jimmy trying to close another thread?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 24 Jan 18 - 11:10 AM
Unlike you shaw I do not feel a need to boast about my education.
You merely betray your constant insecurity by constantly harping on about it.
By the way, are you a well educated scientist, a botanist, or ex teacher? You have an ego big enough to compete with God, Christ only knows why!
Here is a link to diminish your pig ignorance.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 11 Feb 18 - 09:42 AM
Well gnomie I suspect besides being short and fat you must have very dodgy vision. I recommend a trip to specsavers. They'll see you alright. Or perhaps you have wandered off to another planet or deliberately misinterpret language?
Also you and your fellow mudrats are past masters at the art of derailing posts by babbling irrelevancies. I have not yet derailed a discussion unlike your good selves!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 12 Feb 18 - 12:16 PM
"I'm an oldie",
that surely is the least of your many problems.
Being a well educated scientist, biologist, botanist, ex teacher, former union activist, that does not do belief, and confuses fact with fiction and weaponises whimsy. You have Dissociative identity disorder
perhaps?
Greg. I wonder why you bother to post? I cannot believe anyone takes your stupid, foolish, pointless, brainless, mindless, senseless, doltish, idiotic, imbecilic, insane, ridiculous, ludicrous, absurd, preposterous, nonsensical, fatuous, silly, childish, infantile, puerile, immature, juvenile, inane, witless, half-baked, empty-headed, unintelligent, half-witted, slow-witted, weak-minded; crazy, dumb, cretinous, moronic, gormless, daft,dumb-ass,chowderheaded scribings seriously!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 13 Feb 18 - 10:16 AM
To date the lowlife behaviour seems restricted to remoaners.
I see shaw is still picking on grammar-what a sad little fellow!
If he has to resort to such devices to massage his ego it says little for the man, doncha think?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 14 Feb 18 - 11:28 AM
D the G.
I suggest you hop back on the magic roundabout and keep going around.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 14 Feb 18 - 12:25 PM
Greg. Away with the faeries again? Are you simply tripping by or attempting to troll?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 15 Feb 18 - 12:20 PM
Perhaps jimmy has spent too much time with the littlepeople. In his case away with the faeries.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 15 Feb 18 - 06:19 PM
What a pathetic little man you are jimmy. I think we can leave my children out of this. The fact that you feel it necessary to bring them into the discussion does not say much for your character does it?
In fact you are something I would make a point of scraping off my boot before venturing into the house, as you would definitely pose a health hazard.
You have some nerve to pick holes in my postings. Hell you cannot even copy and paste without screwing it up, and you obviously put so much bile into your posts that you fire them away before even proofreading them.
If all you can post are spittle flecked rants perhaps you should stop. It appears that all you manage accomplish with threads is fuck them up. Maybe you should spend more time in the rocking chair and less on the keyboard. You may feel that you are a self proclaimed expert on folkmusic but judging by your posts on other subjects expertise is not the word that springs to mind when considering the content. You are an anachronism- Why do you not just go away?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 16 Feb 18 - 04:30 AM
Puts you in the same category of lowlife as jimmy. We all know that the ranter makes no attempt to control what he posts but for a "well educated whatever you are I am surprised you support him insulting people he has never met and thankfully never likely to.
But then you mudrats do like to stick together.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 17 Feb 18 - 11:48 AM
I see our sour little scouser is still biting on lemons as he gibbers away! Tell me, are your random keystrokes part of a contest between yourself and a monkey? To see who can type something sensible first?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 17 Feb 18 - 01:27 PM
I.m glad you agree with me about gibbering. does your speech have as many impediments as your attempted spelling? try less lemon!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 21 Feb 18 - 04:18 PM
"Schoolmaster Shaw appears to enjoy a level of literacy that poor Iains can only dream of (and that's not even bragging). Observe, Nigel:
"Sadly some adults can also be a naif."
Observe Idiot,
Naif a less common word for naive. adj. 1590s, from French naif, literally "naive". As a noun, first attested 1893, from French, where Old French naif also meant "native inhabitant; simpleton, natural fool."
So tell me shaw, you pretentious little fellow, which one are you?
a simpleton? or natural fool?"

From: Iains - PM
Date: 22 Feb 18 - 03:38 AM
That can only happen when shaw ceases to be a twat.
Do you think it within his limited capabilities?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 24 Feb 18 - 05:26 AM
" child-like grasp of politics" Not only does he have that, but jimmy lives in a timewarp.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 25 Feb 18 - 05:14 PM
Strolling out for a troll again shaw? If you have nothing to contribute, you could simply keep quiet. I realise this could be quite a departure for someone as opinionated as yourself.

From: Iains - PM
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 07:36 AM
"You people really need to get into the real world"
What planet are you on today jimmie?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 27 Feb 18 - 01:29 PM
Have you tried therapy?

From: Iains - PM
Date: 26 Mar 18 - 07:13 AM
Jim. Bollocks. You spout absolute shit at times. There is no other way to describe it. You do not even understand what is being stated before wading in with your bogtrotter drivelling. Either keep up, or keep out.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 05:00 AM

"Or a dumb ass."
More erudition
You are becoming extremely boring with your abuse Iains
I wonder which of these you are most proud of
Jim Carroll

From: Iains - PM
Date: 27 Sep 17 - 10:46 PM
Twat.??

From: Iains - PM
Date: 28 Sep 17 - 03:29 AM
Jimmie I copied your little packmate shaw's insult to me just to watch your entirely predictable behaviour. You and your wannabe bullies apparently think you have carte blanche to post whatever you like, yet act like stuck pigs when the tables are turned. Did you censure the idiot shaw for his gratuitous insult above? One law for the pack and one for the rest of us is it?
When you cannot reciprocate in the discussion with well constructed argument you resort to insult-presumably to make all those people embarrassing you go away, by having the thread closed. What a silly little man you are!

From: Iains - PM
Date: 29 Sep 17 - 03:17 AM
It is no surprise contributors below the line are diminishing with the above learned contributions from our resident boasting "well educated scientist" Shaw you are a fool.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Stanron
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 04:52 AM

When this story first broke I remember seeing two interviews where two different protagonists were asked "What evidence do you have?" several times each. Both answered to the effect that 'questions must be answered'. Neither offered any evidence.

This leaves two possibilities. Either there is no evidence or neither interviewee wanted to reveal what evidence they had. The echo chamber here will discount the first possibility so let's look at the second. They were unwilling to reveal their evidence. To me that also leaves two possibilities and one of them is that they don't actually have any. They are just throwing mud at the wall knowing that some of it will stick, for a while at least. The other possibility is that whatever evidence they have is so weak that it will not stand up to widespread scrutiny.

The electoral commission has looked at this case twice already and found nothing wrong. Perhaps they are just hoping for third time lucky.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 04:20 AM

"Nive tto see "I think you will find the mail offers far more "news" "
news in inverted commas, where it belongs"

Or a dumb ass.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 03:57 AM

No one likes a smart arse... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 03:36 AM

The meaning of life the universe and everything x 42!

So, if the meaning of life, etc. is 42 then that figure is 42*42!
42! is approx. 1.405*10^51

Excess use of exclamation marks can be a problem, especially when used with numbers, as they signify a 'factorial' function.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 02:43 AM

Or even x 100!

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Mar 18 - 01:35 AM

The meaning of life the universe and everything x 42!

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Mar 18 - 07:32 PM

Nive tto see "I think you will find the mail offers far more "news" "
news in inverted commas, where it belongs
The Daaaily Mail has never broken free of its ORIGINS
Jim Carroll