BS: Post Brexit life in the UK

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 11:24 AM

"Brexit will happen."
Somewhat mindless, in the circumstances - a destabiised economy, a sharp rise in rasism, a divided country, a divided and unstable Government a distinct possibility of the break-up of the United Kingdom and a prediction from the experts that British business will take over a decade to recover, if she ever does - and above all NOT EVEN A LIABILITY STUDY TO DEAL WITH ANY OF THIS, LET ALONE A PLAN!
All this is based on serious predictions by the RELEVANT EXPERTS
Somewhat smug to chant "we won" every time the subject comes up
What exactly have you won Nigel - apart from the probability of a Government led by Boris Johnson or William Rees Mogg?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 11:07 AM

Dave,
Which bit of not jumping through your hoops do you not understand, Keith? I have no intention of justifying anything whatsoever to you.

Yes. You said.
My point was that you could not justify such a vacuous whim to anyone. It was bollocks Dave.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 07:46 AM

Same here. And I have looked because I would really like to hear something positive.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 07:42 AM

Exactly DMcG, I have yet to hear any good news at all.

I have read and heard a great deal of negative comment but, to date, not one single item of good news.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 07:31 AM

Raggy is asking for much less than being convinced. That would require quite a lot of good news, I imagine. *Any* good news is a much lower hurdle.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 07:28 AM

Brectum.

noun.

A person who is a complete arsehole about brexit. Often seen on social media gloating about having 'are country back'.

Or maybe those that say it is good just because it will happen?

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 06:43 AM

Heard any good news about Brexit yet then Iains, that is apart from the Mantra about regaining control.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 06:43 AM

I do find it quite amusing that the Brexiteers would rather talk about almost anything but Brexit. Still I suppose after waiting for 21 months to hear any good news about it they're getting despondent.

We've already heard the 'good news'. Brexit will happen.
It is only those who voted remain who keep carping on about "Why can't you give us good news?".
The 'good news' will come once we're out (although it may take time). We couldn't convince you before the referendum that Brexit in and of itself was a good thing. Why should we expect to (or be expected to) convince you now?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 06:39 AM

So Boris and May's speeches are just posturing and hot air? They contain nothing worth talking about?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 06:24 AM

Raggytash nothing of significance is occurring, just a lot of posturing
and hot air.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 06:17 AM

I do find it quite amusing that the Brexiteers would rather talk about almost anything but Brexit. Still I suppose after waiting for 21 months to hear any good news about it they're getting despondent.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 06:15 AM

Which bit of not jumping through your hoops do you not understand, Keith? I have no intention of justifying anything whatsoever to you. You have no intention of changing your tedious habits. Best option all round is for you to ignore me.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 06:13 AM

Deary Me! I do not need therapy to understand this. Some others obviously do.
My conclusion is that labour fudged the brexit issue to gain seats. Now they have to live with it or there will be consequences.

Awkward facts! Doncha jus luv 'em!


https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/labour-faces-need-reconcile-working-class-brexit-supporters

Do I detect the odour of toast over the horizon?
The aspirations of the rank and file seem to differ from the membership.
I know what comprises the bigger number!

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 05:22 AM

Keith - I have no intention of jumping through your hoops. You are the last person on earth that I would justify anything to.

You could not justify that whim to anyone.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 05:14 AM

I see the brectums are out in force again :-)

Keith - I have no intention of jumping through your hoops. You are the last person on earth that I would justify anything to.

Iains - Look to your own insulting and abusive posts before you comment on the mote in anyone else's eye.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 05:11 AM

From: Dave the Gnome - PM
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 04:36 AM
Labour party members and people that vote Labour are two completely different thinks Nigel. I suspect that you know that but given your fixation that everything that Steve says is wrong you will never pass up an opportunity to try to score some sort of point. Have you tried any sort of therapy?
DtG

I am quite capable of reading what is written. Are you happy with his quoted figures Over two-thirds of Labour voters voted remain. Nine in ten Labour members voted remain

That means Labour 'members' had at least a 90% turnout (higher if any at all voted 'leave'). This compares with only 72.2% nationally.

No source is given for these figures, and I cannot believe that there would be a credible source for them, as the referendum was a 'secret ballot'.
The figures might come from some form of post referendum poll, but we all know the current value of those type of figures. Perhaps the lack of a source is deliberate.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 04:57 AM

Dave,
I wish had that crystal ball that could tell me with such absolute certainty what leaving the EU will and will not affect.

There are no such things Dave.
Can you suggest a chain of circumstances that would lead from Brexit to a tightening of regulations on refugees and asylum seekers none of whom originate in EU?

At a push I could produce a link from Remaining to such an outcome, but it would still be fantasy.

You appear to be the only person on Earth suggesting that it is a Brexit issue. That makes me think that this is just another of your vacuous whims with no basis in reality.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 04:47 AM

BACK TO THE FAVOURITE MUDRAT INSULT OF REQUIRING THERAPY. nOT VERY INTELLIGENT IS IT?
what sort of nonsense party is it when the voters vote the opposite of the members. Bit of a disconnect there! If you cannot recognise the fact you need help(therapy perhaps?)

Once again I point out the inescapable fact that the labour heartlands voted overwhelmingly for brexit.


Try to prove me wrong with FACTS, not babbling

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 04:39 AM

Labour Party Membership is about 570,000, thus 90% of them equates to 513,000.

33,500,000 people voted in the referendum.


You can figure the rest out for yourself it's quite simple.


Or should be.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 04:36 AM

Labour party members and people that vote Labour are two completely different thinks Nigel. I suspect that you know that but given your fixation that everything that Steve says is wrong you will never pass up an opportunity to try to score some sort of point. Have you tried any sort of therapy?

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 04:33 AM

Don't be so stupid Iains

Ho Ho Ho!
Terrible things facts.

try below from your favourit leftard paper thr guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/27/labour-voters-could-abandon-party-over-brexit-stance-poll-finds

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 04:20 AM

From: Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 05:19 PM
No legs. No commie. No court action. Daily Express doing what the Daily Express does. I know you can't see it, poor you. Over two-thirds of Labour voters voted remain. Nine in ten Labour members voted remain. You do heartlands, I do age-related demography, you get predictably nasty. I shrug. You haven't got a clue...

Amazing that Remain didn't win then, with that turn-out. The overall turnout was only 72%, so the Conservative Party must have been grossly under-represented if 9/10 Labour members voted to remain.

I think you need to clarify what you mean by your figures, as once again you appear to be totally misrepresenting the truth.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 04:20 AM

Just seen this

Brectum.

noun.

A person who is a complete arsehole about brexit. Often seen on social media gloating about having 'are country back'.

Fits a few on here.

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 03:56 AM

"The official labour party position is Brexit full steam ahead."
Don't be so stupid Iains
The decision to leave has proved to be a crass one and whoever is in charge is placed in a position of making the best of it - all parties are divided as how to mop the mess that is emerging
Your lot had been incompetent enough to lose their majority (a sign of how popular Brexit had become) and is snarling and snapping among themselves about what to do
The main thing to come out of the decision so far is a totally unclear future and a destabilised economy   
Look to your own chaos before you start talking about others
Keith - you've gone into talking clock mode and are just repeating yourself - stop talking about something you know nothing about - about time Little England learned to to stay out of the business of others
Go and Rule Britannia somewhere else
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Feb 18 - 03:30 AM

I wish had that crystal ball that could tell me with such absolute certainty what leaving the EU will and will not affect.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 05:19 PM

No legs. No commie. No court action. Daily Express doing what the Daily Express does. I know you can't see it, poor you. Over two-thirds of Labour voters voted remain. Nine in ten Labour members voted remain. You do heartlands, I do age-related demography, you get predictably nasty. I shrug. You haven't got a clue...

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 04:57 PM

So to cut to the quick in among the verbiage above. The official labour party position is Brexit full steam ahead. In a nutshell the rowdy members have no control over the direction the party is going.
As I have pointed out before the labour heartlands voted heartily for brexit. This sticks in the craw of the middle class labour party members, whose conceit dictates that they should determine the agenda.
Your party has a problem with the membership, the leader and a huge disconect with the labour heartlands.
   you had better not hope for an early election, you would preside over a massacre.
Meanwhile, about that Czech Mate. No threats of any court action yet?
No legs to it? I suspect more legs than a millipede!

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 10:24 AM

Here's a snippet from an email sent to Labour Party members today. Note the complete lack of any reference to brexit.

The Tories have no plan and are failing Britain - with a housing crisis; underinvestment in our children's education; a failing economy; and an NHS pushed into a state of emergency.

Here's my question for PMQs week...

[box provided for typing my question]

Each Wednesday, Jeremy Corbyn will put questions to Theresa May. Let us know what question you'd like him to ask this week...



Here's an extract from a piece in today's Oberver, outlining the pressure from various sources to make Labour change direction on brexit.

Corbyn under pressure to shift Brexit stance

(Michael Savage. Policy editor)

Jeremy Corbyn has come under intense pressure to shift Labour's position on Brexit after 20,000 members demanded a say over the issue and former leader Neil Kinnock backed halting Britain's EU exit altogether.

It is understood that the Labour leader will also be confronted by some in his shadow cabinet this week who want him to back remaining in the single market and customs union.

Speaking to the Observer, Kinnock said he had been angered by claims from Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, that the NHS should benefit from the money saved by leaving the European Union. He said the reality was that "we should stop Brexit to save the NHS" or at the very least "mitigate the damage" by staying within the single market.
"Even contempt for 'experts' cannot obscure the evidence that the Johnson-led Brexit vote has already damaged and will inflict future harm on the NHS," Kinnock said. Meanwhile "vitally - Brexit has already diminished, and will continue to depress, the revenues on which the NHS depends.

"If Johnson really wanted the extra NHS spending, which is sorely needed, he wouldn't be using the issue as a ploy to feed his lust for the Tory leadership but would be working to end Brexit.

"The truth is that we can either take the increasingly plain risks and costs of leaving the EU or have the stability, growth and revenues vital for crucial public services like the NHS and social care. Recognising that, we should stop Brexit to save the NHS, or, at very least, mitigate the damage by seeking European Economic Area membership."

Labour is currently backing a "jobs first" Brexit, but what this would mean in practice has remained vague. The party was sharply criticised when it emerged that none of the eight policy commissions it has set up since the elections focuses on Brexit.

The pressure on Labour's leadership comes as a second major donor pledged a six-figure sum to fund a campaign to stop Brexit and warned that he would "not be silenced." Stephen Peel, an Olympic rower and former Tory donor, said he had not been put off by attacks aimed at George Soros, the billionaire financier who faced a backlash from Brexiters after giving 400,000 pounds to a new anti-Brexit campaign.

He told the Observer he was giving 100,000 pounds to Best for Britain, which is organising a grassroots anti-Brexit campaign...

...He added: "We have heard the strident calls from those against us to try and close down debate and silence discussion over the disaster that Brexit appears to be. I for one, will not be silenced and will do all I can to support groups such as Best for Britain who seek to engage people across the country and make the case for Britain to lead, not leave Europe.

"The key task is to empower the people of Britain, provide clear information on Brexit, and encourage them to make their views known to their representatives in parliament."

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 10:01 AM

Jim,
This is THE D.U.P'S POSITION IN FULL SFA about excluding Ulster Irish

They are happy for the Act to recognise the Irish language, but ask for parity for their culture.
What is wrong with that?
Sinn Fein are adamant that only their language can be recognised?
Why are they so hostile to the majority culture?
Why are you?

DMcG, the publication was irrelevant because the facts were as stated, and can be found anywhere as I showed. The Irish Times gave the same facts.

And that means it is for the parties concerned to find a set of phrases or approaches that gives them a way forward. One act, three acts - I don't care.

I agree, and so does DUP. They want recognition in the Act or in a separate Act. Sinn Fein refuses to accept that.

Dave,
Leaving the EU will affect many more things than just European issues.

It will not effect policy on refugees or asylum seekers.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 09:34 AM

Membership of the EU has no effect on peoples attitudes but the vote to leave increased the incidence of race hate crimes. Leaving the EU will affect many more things than just European issues.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 08:24 AM

DMcG, the publication was irrelevant because ...

Do you challenge any of that?

Yes, I challenge the claim the publication is irrelevant. Had you said 'The Northwich Guardian reported...', or 'The DUP said ... according this report' I would not have raised the point. But claiming 'The Guardian' said it is misleading. Someone might decide to quote you later and think the national newspaper said "Sinn Fein wants a standalone piece of legislation to protect speakers 'an Irish Language Act' but the DUP has long insisted it would only countenance new laws if they also incorporate other cultures, such as Ulster Scots", which they did not do (or at least, that link does not demonstrate they did).


I challenge it for the same reason I might challenge a claim that Jim said something when it was Steve or even Iains: because it is misleading, whether accidentally or intentionally. This whole topic is complex enough without misleading people.


Which view is closest to yours DMcG?

As I said before, I don't think it is about language at all. It is about peoples' sense of identity, on both sides of the debate. And that means it is for the parties concerned to find a set of phrases or approaches that gives them a way forward. One act, three acts - I don't care. What I care about is them finding a way through, and I am happy with anything they agree.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 08:22 AM

"Is it Czech Mate for commie corbyn?"

The story has no legs and won't gain any. Your link is to the ravings of a far-right long-time nutter in a far-right "news"paper. I suppose we shouldn't be surprised that you associate yourself with such gutter-dwellers. You make excellent bedfellows.

One more thing. Jeremy has never been a "commie." He's a dyed-in-the-wool Labour man and always has been, rebellious bugger though he's been. He even admits to not having read much Marx. Me too! Sorry to pollute your postings with facts. One thing about him that does pee me off: so far he has failed to provided effective opposition to May on Brexit. I live in hope that, when things get really bad in the next few months, he will take the party out of the pro-brexit club and declare against the impending disaster. That's what the majority of Labour voters voted for in the referendum and it's what almost the whole party membership voted for. Get behind us, Jezza!

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 08:16 AM

Keith
You do not link your claim, indicating that, as usual it is partial and selective
This is THE D.U.P'S POSITION IN FULL SFA about excluding Ulster Irish
This is what the D.U.P. is about
The letter, a copy of which has been obtained by the BBC, says the party's manifesto makes it "absolutely clear" that the DUP "won't sign up to any deal that diminishes Northern Ireland as a part of the United Kingdom"
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 08:05 AM

Tariffs on Wine.



The Facts

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 07:55 AM

Dave,
Us leaving the EU should have no effect upon these agreements.
That is the point I was making. The operative word is "should". No one really knows.

Membership of the EU HAS no effect on those agreements, so leaving it will make no difference.
Your suggestion is baseless. You have no case.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 07:52 AM

Jim,
Irish Times, "The DUP wants a composite Act that also embraces Ulster Scots, while Sinn Fein is insistent on a stand-alone Irish language Act. "

The DUP's position is clearly inclusive while Sinn Fein's would appear sectarian and divisive.
Where do you stand?

Rag, There is no tarif on EU wine now, but there would be after Brexit without a trade agreement.
Wine from outside EU, Australia, Chile Argentina, S.Africa, California etc. is subject to a tarif now.

EU wine would become more expensive, but other wines would not.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 07:45 AM

Is it Czech Mate for commie corbyn?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 07:40 AM

Give it a rest Keith - the first step has to be re-establishing a language that was beaten to death by colonisation
That last people to have a say in it were those who beat it to death in the fiirs place and continue to do so - the ruling Unionist establishment backed by the desperately clinging-on remnants of the Empire (who should have no say whatever)
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 07:15 AM

Us leaving the EU should have no effect upon these agreements.

That is the point I was making. The operative word is "should". No one really knows.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 06:55 AM

Interesting article on the BBC website today concerning the impact of Brexit on French wine growers. It particularly states:

"But their main preoccupation was exchange rates (which of course have already moved sharply to make euro exports to the UK more expensive). The fact there might also be a tariff on French wine had not really sunk in."

It is interesting to read they are fearful of tariffs being imposed when some on here would have us believe it could not possibly happen.

French Wine

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 06:40 AM

Also from WIKI,
" The Northern Ireland Department of Culture, Arts and Leisure considers Ulster Scots to be "the local variety of the Scots language."[42] "

"Ulster Scots is defined in an Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Ireland establishing implementation bodies done at Dublin on the 8th day of March 1999 in the following terms:
"Ullans" is to be understood as the variety of the Scots language traditionally found in parts of Northern Ireland and Donegal."

"The North/South Co-operation (Implementation Bodies) Northern Ireland Order 1999,[44] which gave effect to the implementation bodies incorporated the text of the agreement in its Schedule 1.
The declaration made by the United Kingdom Government regarding the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages reads as follows:[45]
The United Kingdom declares, in accordance with Article 2, paragraph 1 of the Charter that it recognises that Scots and Ulster Scots meet the Charter's definition of a regional or minority language for the purposes of Part II of the Charter."

"The legislative remit laid down for the agency by the North/South Co-operation (Implementation Bodies) Northern Ireland Order 1999 is: "the promotion of greater awareness and the use of Ullans and of Ulster-Scots cultural issues, both within Northern Ireland and throughout the island".
The agency has adopted a mission statement: to promote the study, conservation, development and use of Ulster Scots as a living language; to encourage and develop the full range of its attendant culture; and to promote an understanding of the history of the Ulster-Scots people."

Irish Times,
"The DUP wants a composite Act that also embraces Ulster Scots, while Sinn F?in is insistent on a stand-alone Irish language Act. "

I am with DUP on this one. Their view is in line with the Good Friday Agreement.
I think Sinn Fein's position is sectarian and divisive.
How about you Rag?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 06:31 AM

From Wiki:

"Some definitions of Ulster Scots may also include Standard English spoken with an Ulster Scots accent"

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 06:17 AM

DMcG, the publication was irrelevant because what I posted was not editorial opinion but direct quotes of Kearney and Robinson giving the positions of their respective parties, Sinn Fein and the DUP.

Do you challenge any of that?
If not you accept the FACT that DUP is demanding equal recognition for both cultures, in line with the spirit and letter of the GFA, while Sinn Fein wants recognition only for their culture.

Here is Kearney (Sinn Fein) quoted by Jim's Irish Times.
"There must be a free-standing acht na Gaeilge, Irish language act. It is essential to ensure that we see the re-establishment of the political institutions. It is absolutely pivotal to the rights and equality agenda here in the north of Ireland."

Now Robinson (DUP) from the same Irish Times article.
"Earlier, former DUP leader and First Minister Peter Robinson supported the DUP argument that any agreement in relation to Irish must involve a composite act that also embraced Ulster Scots.
"There is no credibility in asserting your need to have your culture respected if you blatantly disrespect that of others," Mr Robinson posted on Facebook."
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/sinn-f?in-and-dup-remain-deadlocked-as-time-for-deal-narrows-1.3135466

Another Irish Times article,
"The DUP wants a composite Act that also embraces Ulster Scots, while Sinn F?in is insistent on a stand-alone Irish language Act. "
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/british-and-irish-sources-reject-sinn-f?in-s-stormont-demands-1.3139593

Which view is closest to yours DMcG? Jim?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 04:41 AM

Professor Anthony Glees "EXPERT on TERROR"
You can't blame the Tories - their ongoing incompetence has made an election inevitable - crap like this are only the first shots
You ain't seen nuffin' yet!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 04:17 AM

The media campaign against Corbyn has been relentless since he was elected. This is yet another example.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 04:17 AM

Still nothing to do with Brexit, though, is it?

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 04:13 AM

The story is growing legs.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/920394/jeremy-corbyn-spy-links-czechoslovakia-espionage-select-committee-investigation-p

I wonder which story has most substance? Labour spying, or Russian election shenanigans in the US?
I cannot wait to see how this develops. 13 Russians take on the might of the FBI, CIA,NSA and a alphabet soup of other agencies and perform their dastardly deed to swing the Presidential election? Yeah, Right????

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 18 Feb 18 - 03:37 AM

Stop insulting me, I stop retaliating. SIMPLES!
Shaw your unwarranted post is simply trolling. You and your fellow mudrats are constantly accusing me of being drunk, insecure and a host of other insults to try to give more authority to your ramblings.

             physician, heal thyself.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Feb 18 - 05:32 PM

By a very long chalk, Iains, you are the most gratuitously insulting person on this board that we've seen here for years. The fact that you can accuse anyone else of being insulting, in the light of your own own dismal record, speaks volumes about your unstable mental state. You are clearly not normal. You seriously need to take stock, preferably by taking time out.

Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 17 Feb 18 - 02:58 PM

My only problem is with your gratuitous insults. They are compromising two threads at the moment and several contributors have commented on your abysmal behaviour. You are not very good at taking advice are you?