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BS: Post Brexit life in the UK

Jim Carroll 26 Feb 18 - 08:11 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 18 - 08:05 PM
Raggytash 26 Feb 18 - 05:15 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 18 - 05:11 PM
Keith A of Hertford 26 Feb 18 - 04:53 PM
Dave the Gnome 26 Feb 18 - 04:38 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 18 - 03:09 PM
Jim Carroll 26 Feb 18 - 03:03 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 18 - 03:02 PM
Keith A of Hertford 26 Feb 18 - 02:02 PM
DMcG 26 Feb 18 - 01:48 PM
DMcG 26 Feb 18 - 01:47 PM
Dave the Gnome 26 Feb 18 - 01:44 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 18 - 01:37 PM
Jim Carroll 26 Feb 18 - 01:28 PM
Iains 26 Feb 18 - 01:22 PM
Jim Carroll 26 Feb 18 - 12:41 PM
Iains 26 Feb 18 - 12:41 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 18 - 12:24 PM
Dave the Gnome 26 Feb 18 - 12:11 PM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 18 - 12:11 PM
Jim Carroll 26 Feb 18 - 12:10 PM
Keith A of Hertford 26 Feb 18 - 11:31 AM
Jim Carroll 26 Feb 18 - 08:23 AM
Raggytash 26 Feb 18 - 07:48 AM
Iains 26 Feb 18 - 07:36 AM
Iains 26 Feb 18 - 07:32 AM
Dave the Gnome 26 Feb 18 - 06:44 AM
Jim Carroll 26 Feb 18 - 06:41 AM
DMcG 26 Feb 18 - 06:37 AM
Nigel Parsons 26 Feb 18 - 06:30 AM
Keith A of Hertford 26 Feb 18 - 06:29 AM
Keith A of Hertford 26 Feb 18 - 06:24 AM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 18 - 05:40 AM
Nigel Parsons 26 Feb 18 - 05:23 AM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 18 - 05:20 AM
Dave the Gnome 26 Feb 18 - 04:58 AM
DMcG 26 Feb 18 - 04:45 AM
Steve Shaw 26 Feb 18 - 04:41 AM
Jim Carroll 26 Feb 18 - 04:34 AM
Keith A of Hertford 26 Feb 18 - 04:05 AM
Iains 26 Feb 18 - 04:04 AM
Nigel Parsons 26 Feb 18 - 03:34 AM
Steve Shaw 25 Feb 18 - 07:29 PM
Iains 25 Feb 18 - 05:14 PM
Steve Shaw 25 Feb 18 - 03:59 PM
Iains 25 Feb 18 - 03:32 PM
Jim Carroll 25 Feb 18 - 02:20 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 08:11 PM

"Read my link. The BBC journalist studied them first hand."
Yeah - yeah - yeah !!
We know al about that
Your refusal to respond to everyting that has been put up makes clear wjat you are - a "reds under the bed nutcase who believes everything he wants to believe and rejects everything that doesn't conform with his right-wing hysteria - a Dr Strangelove in real life - I fine upstanding example of British patriotism
Your only contribution here is to underline the veracity of your spy-thriller claims about Corbyn - and to confirm your extremism
So long - and thanks for the fish, as Douglas Adams once said
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 08:05 PM

From the Guardian, reporting on Jeremy's speech:

In a question and answer session after the speech.....

...Corbyn argued that seeking fresh deals with China or the US was not something Labour wanted to pursue, as that would not compensate for the loss of trade with EU countries.

"Both the US and China have weaker standards and regulations that would risk dragging Britain into a race to the bottom on vital protections and rights at work," he said, arguing against a TTIP-style deal that could force open parts of the NHS or any new rules that would mean asking "the British public to eat chlorinated chicken."


Looks like China and the US won't be falling over themselves either...


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Raggytash
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 05:15 PM

I do find it rather bizarre that someone is so disillusioned that they still think, after being told numerous times to the contrary, that anyone gives a flying **** what they think.

What a sad and lonely little individual that person must be.

I know that I (basically a decent human being) should feel very sorry for him but for the life of me I can't raise sufficient interest.

Does anyone think it may help if we typed in capitals just for him?

YOU ARE A BORING LITTLE ****, OTHER PEOPLE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK OR WHAT YOU POST.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 05:11 PM

"Yes there was." Great answer, Keith! So that nails it then!


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 04:53 PM

Steve,
Absolute mythology. Laughable bullshit. There was never any evidence that the Soviet bloc intended to invade us.

Yes there was.

Jim,
"It is proven by the Secret Police records Jim."
They droppedf you a line to give you this evidence did they ?


Read my link. The BBC journalist studied them first hand.

Dave,
If I claim anything as fact you can be assured it is factual.

Brexit will change our policy on refugees and asylum seekers.
False claim. Brexit has no bearing on either.
Tariff savings never lead to lower prices.
False claim. Of course they do.

Now, anything to say about brexit,

I have expressed my views and have nothing to add until something changes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 04:38 PM

Feel free to point out any false statements you like Keith. Maybe next time you may even attempt to disprove one rather than just saying 'prove it'. If I claim anything as fact you can be assured it is factual. If I have an opinion on anything, it is my own honest opinion that I have no need to justify to you or anyone. Not that anyone else gets their knickers in a twist over my opinion.

Now, anything to say about brexit, how it is being handled by the shower of shits masquerading as a government of how our descendants are going to view the brectums that led the country into this mess?

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 03:09 PM

Thanks for that, DMcG. So, unless we accept the yanks' lower food safety standards and, presumably, their GM shit, they won't do a deal with us. Wow. Now that's what I call "taking back control!"

Brexiteers awake!


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 03:03 PM

"It is proven by the Secret Police records Jim."
They droppedf you a line to give you this evidence did they ?
These right wing led countries are now part of the Capitalist world - Russia has even attempted to interfere in British and American politics to ascertai that they elect right wing governments - forged records would be a formaility
"The Cold War Jim, when the Soviet Block planned and trained to invade us and we trained and planned to try and stop them."
Utter bollocks - you really are beyond a joke
Nobody would have dared invade anybody with nuclear weapons you moron - that as the idea of the "nuclear deterrent" - he clue is in the name
This is moronic cold war stuff
We were fed this shit for decades - some people started building nuclear shelters - and yet - not a smidgen of evidence of an invasion - never at any time
It was all propaganda bullshit that only a few believed
They even satarised it in films like, "The Russians are Coming" and "John Goldfarb, Please Come Home"
While you and your fellow Little Englanders were crouching behind your aspidistras, some of us got off our arse and went to ee what was happening for ourselves
My generation - political and non-political went out to see for ourselves instead of swallowing this crap
Me and a mate hitched right through Europe - France, Germany, right through to Czechoslovakia - we got there the morning the Russians re-opened the border and spent a couple of fascinating weeks in Prague, arguing with Russian soldiers, meeting Vietnamese soldiers on leave, sitting the tha cafes with students discussing what had happened - a close up view without the interference of "secret police" or "communist agents"
One year we went to Hungary to meet folk song collectors and old singers who had been recorded by Kodaly - then on to Yugoslavia and accross to the island of Krk
Another year - Bulgaria - we never made it to Transylvania as we wanted to
I prepared to go to Cuba on a cargo ship, but a family tragedy forced me to cancel
You sound like a Joew McCarthy propaganda directive every time yo put finger to keyboard
You morons have swallowed all that shit wholesale without ever bothering to question any of it
And still you refuse to comment on the traitorous nature of this government who pays huge bribes to terrorist linked parties, a Brexit decision pushed though by a party now linked to fascist LePen, and a prime minister who is kissing the arse of the most unstable and dangerous politician in the world
And that't the flag you salute - you ought to be ashamed of yourself
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 03:02 PM

"The Cold War Jim, when the Soviet Block [sic] planned and trained to invade us and we trained and planned to try and stop them."

Absolute mythology. Laughable bullshit. There was never any evidence that the Soviet bloc intended to invade us. They were way too weak militarily for a start and they knew it. And so did we, but the Thatcher/Reagan axis wasn't telling. It was a 1984-style Orwellian lie intended to keep us onside.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 02:02 PM

Jim,
This is all unproven bullshit Keith
It is proven by the Secret Police records Jim.

"enemies of the country" only in the minds of those who chose to make them so - Britain never declared war on any of them
The Cold War Jim, when the Soviet Block planned and trained to invade us and we trained and planned to try and stop them.

Steve,
It's vulgar and fraudulent, Keith,
It is a true story that you tried to deny. I quoted BBC not the Mail.

Dave,
Now, a bit more politely, will you please fuck off and stop mithering me.
No.
I will continue to point out any false statements you make.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 01:48 PM

That is on a paywall site, but the gist is clear enough from the bit you can read for free.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 01:47 PM

Well, this US negotiator isn't rushing to make a deal, unless we concede everything


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 01:44 PM

Depends what you mean by naughty, Iains. If you mean being open and honest if somewhat robust, I will happily admit to that. If you mean being devious and conniving with a generous measure of trolling then I shall let other people be the judge of who fits that bill.

Still nothing to say on brexit?

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 01:37 PM

Good move by Jeremy. He has to keep hammering home that he's doing this in the interests of the country. That's his best riposte to the panicky accusations of brexiteers that he's betraying his voters//the people, etc. The fact is that half our trade is done with the EU, our financial services sector is intimately tied in with Europe and there's no queue of big-hitters outside the EU desperate to do incredible deals with an ailing economy. Time for brexiteers to get real, and for Labour to take the lead on keeping us in the single market

You're dead right about the troll, Jim. He's posted fourteen posts in a row in this thread now without mentioning brexit once.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 01:28 PM

ou've got the right territory for a vegetable Iains
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 01:22 PM

and now for something completely different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYRH5Gn2Wbg


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 12:41 PM

"Now back to brexit."
Drink to that Steve
As much as you feed these trolls, they still come back fro more
Move on - this is taking longer than may and her Mayflies
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 12:41 PM

Are the mudrats queuing for time out on the naughty step?


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 12:24 PM

Your, not you're. Grr. That wasn't me!

I remember Billy Connolly at the London Palladium in 1977 spending the first three quarters of an hour of his show forensically examining the use of the expression "fuck off." One advantage of it, he mused, was the fact that it was so certain and direct. You couldn't mistake the sentiment behind it. He'd never read in a book, for example, anything like "Fuck off, he hinted..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 12:11 PM

Impolite request was the vaguely humorous bit I was referring to as well know, Keith. Every man and his dog understood that it is a pun on 'polite request' but you being in need of the argument chose to misinterpret even that.

Different morality
Different language
Different planet

Fuck off was not intended to be humorous but a fair indication of how pissed off we all are with your anally retentive shenanigans.

Now, a bit more politely, will you please fuck off and stop mithering me.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 12:11 PM

Of course, as we have Keith here this non-story will run and run. Just like the Labour antisemitism non-story, in a month or two's time Keith will still be prattling on about this long after the Daily Mail has dug up some new shock-horror story, maybe about the fact that Jezza has been using Sandinista-made nail clippers for decades or something. It's vulgar and fraudulent, Keith, as is you're persistence in keeping this irrelevance going in a brexit thread. I'll remember that next time you accuse someone of thread-hijacking.

Request denied, Nigel. You're a big boy now and you've heard a lot worse.

Now back to brexit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 12:10 PM

"He was an MP when he was meeting with the spy who cultivated him as a future source."
This is all unproven bullshit Keith - many politicians at the time from all parties were friendly with Eastern European Countries who were "enemies of the country" only in the minds of those who chose to make them so - Britain never declared war on any of them though they may have disapproved ot their policies
It is an indication of the hypocrisy of politicians that some "friends" of Britain were pouring blazing petrol on the heads of Third-World peasants - you have always ignored that fact, which makes you a hyoocrite
You are now ignoring the fact that our present politicians are consorting with Parties with terrorist links, antisemitic racist fascists and war-mongering Presidents - which makes you an even greater hypocrite
****** "enemy of the country - now you really do sound like a bad Bulldog Drummond novel
You are a stereotype joke making you worthy of every posting Dave and everybody else has directed at you
A flag-wagging little Englander of the worst, small-minded kind
Please feel free to add that to Dave's list
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 11:31 AM

Jim,
A Councillor - really headed for the big time then!!!

He was an MP when he was meeting with the spy who cultivated him as a future source. The foreign spy who groomed him.

That's about how serious these "spying" claims are being taken by real-life politicians

He is not accused of spying. Just of being friendly with enemies of the country.

Dave,
It was the 'impolite request' that was vaguely humourous.

Nothing vaguely humorous in this abuse Dave.

17 Jan 18 - 04:50 AM
Keith. Fuck off.

19 Feb 18 - 11:51 AM
I will now put it as simply as I can. Fuck off.

23 Feb 18 - 05:14 AM
And which bit of fuck off is so difficult to understand?

25 Feb 18 - 02:15 PM
I am constantly astonished that some people still cannot get the gist of 'fuck off'.

26 Feb 18 - 06:44 AM
fuck off as requested.

Not nice Dave, and not even vaguely humorous.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 08:23 AM

"What planet are you on today jimmie?"
And that's it - that't's your response to teh fact (not uncorroborated accusations) that the Government has put Britain in hock to right extremism - LePen, DUP, Trump...
Not just the limp-wristed right but th real oven-door-bangers like antisemitic fascists like LePen and frothing maniacs like Trump
What was your resonse again ?
""What planet are you on today jimmie?"
Whatever planet I'm on, it appears to be inhabited by adults
Grow uo
I've just watched Corbyn talking about The Customs Union - as statesmanlike and confident as anything I've seen in a while
One of the points arising from his speech was the comment that he probably had enough support from Tory and Labour Politicians to form a parliamentary majority on this issue
That's about how serious these "spying" claims are being taken by real-life politicians
You little band of flag-waggers are the ones who need to grow up
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Raggytash
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 07:48 AM

I seem to recall a story about John Major having had an affair with Edwina Currie. What two people do is entirely up to them, providing both are adults and capable of giving consent. Does it matter if they had an affair, not one jot to my mind. Nor does it matter if Corbyn and Abbott had an affair.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 07:36 AM

"You people really need to get into the real world"

What planet are you on today jimmie?


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 07:32 AM

"He did "cavort" with a Czeck spy. Was it a threesome? I thought he only cavorted with the abbopotomus.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3239322/Jeremy-Corbyn-Diane-Abbott-naked-romp-Cotswolds-field.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 06:44 AM

The 'fusk off' was intended to be without the smiley. It was the 'impolite request' that was vaguely humourous.

Different morality
Different language
Different planet

If I repeatedly show my ignorance then just ignore me as requested.
If I cannot be taken seriously then just ignore me as requested.
If you feel I am a sad man and you don't want to enter into any exchange with me then just fuck off as requested.

No skin off my nose.

Now, how about sticking to the point and providing some evidence of all the marvelous benefits that brexit will afford us?

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 06:41 AM

"Is this the same non-entity who had already been elected to Haringey council in 1974?"
A Councillor - really headed for the big time then!!!
I must have known hundreds of them - a can name around half a dozen I have had drinks with over the last few years
You people are a joke - you really are
You want outside interference in British politics - try this - from a party that led the Brexit campaign
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/janice-atkinson-conservatives-tories-far-right-marine-le-pen-adam-holloway-ex-ukip-campaigning-a7771416.html
Or how about THIS
The Prime Minister bunged an extremist secratian Party with terrorist links on Billion Pounds of the British taxpayers money in order to bail her out of her own nause-ups and steerr Britain through the Brexit negotiations
Right wing Russian interference into Western politics has given us the most dangerous and unstable World leader we have ever seen in the despicable form of Donald Trump and our PM goes to the White House with her knickers in her handbag to kiss his arse
And you idiots witter on about some conspiricy theorists crap that echoes the worst of spy fiction - not even on the level of Le Carre or Deighton - more like Bulldog Drummond and Fu Manchu
You people really need to get into the real world
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 06:37 AM

Well, I don't imagine everyone will agree, but Corbyn's speech was the speech of a leader, in my book. If nothing else - and there was plenty of 'else' - it challenges May to give much more than ambiguous platitudes in her speech at the end of the week.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 06:30 AM

From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 05:40 AM
Fer Chrissake, Nigel, councillors are two-a-penny.


As a non-believer, do you think you could find something of your own to use as a swearword? Or are you just deliberately offensive?


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 06:29 AM

Dave,
It's not an order, Keith, just an impolite request :-)

You told me to "fuck off" and without the smiley you now add.
You have repeatedly shown your ignorance.
Just do not expect to be taken seriously, you sad man.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 06:24 AM

He did "cavort" with a Czeck spy. He had at three meetings.
He sold no secrets. Jezza did not have access to any.
He was just being groomed for future use.

BBC yesterday,
"Nothing in Agent Dymic's descriptions of three meetings with the Labour MP - two in the House of Commons, one on Seven Sisters Road - suggest the StB ever regarded him as anything other than a potential source."

That is according to the actual official records of the Czechoslovak communist era secret police, the StB, as reported by the BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43168245


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 05:40 AM

Fer Chrissake, Nigel, councillors are two-a-penny. I could have walked on to Bude Town Council at the drop of a hat on a number of occasions and the local Labour Party organiser asked me to stand for Cornwall Council when I'd been a member for just a few weeks (I didn't, so don't bother looking me up). This country has tens of thousands of councillors.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 05:23 AM

From: Jim Carroll - PM
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 04:34 AM
"No. It was Jeremy Corbyn according to the official records of the Czechoslovak communist era secret police, the StB, as reported by the BBC"
Utter crap
Corbyn was an unknown nonentity in the Labour party - one of many hundreds of thousand young people who visited the Eastern Bloc out of curiosity; if they had spent their time and money on grooming such people their system would have collapsed many decades ago


Is this the same non-entity who had already been elected to Haringey council in 1974?


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 05:20 AM

"Logistically" was correct. "Logically" would have been wrong. Context is everything.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 04:58 AM

It's not an order, Keith, just an impolite request :-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: DMcG
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 04:45 AM

I was thinking yesterday that Sir Richard Dearlove has been playing a smarter political game than the politicians. Say Corbyn has sold secrets and you can expect to have to make a public apology. Stick to "there are questions to answer" and you are probably safe. There are questions to answer on everything from why the sky is blue to what idiot thought it a good idea to make such and such a road one way. "Having questions to answer" is so stunningly vague it says nothing and so is probably impossible to sue for libel, yet still somehow still encourages doubts

That article, on the other hand, could leave him open to letters from the lawyers, because he does make some factual charges that could be challenged.

I am not going to comment much on logical versus logistical. Cable's statement seems fine to me and as usual there are much bigger concerns than whether anyone used the perfect word. But yes, I was making a point. It was where will the line be drawn by each politician between self interest and national interest. It is worth keepong an eye on.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 04:41 AM

Dearlove is a rabid neoconservative who believes in roaming the world with mighty Western armies in order to knock democracy into countries not like us. A fellow well past his sell-by date, sadly. The Telegraph, that bastion of liberal thinking, wouldn't let me read past the first few lines unless I join something. Which I won't, so thank God for that!

Brexit, Iains...?


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 04:34 AM

"No. It was Jeremy Corbyn according to the official records of the Czechoslovak communist era secret police, the StB, as reported by the BBC"
Utter crap
Corbyn was an unknown nonentity in the Labour party - one of many hundreds of thousand young people who visited the Eastern Bloc out of curiosity; if they had spent their time and money on grooming such people their system would have collapsed many decades ago
You people live in a fantasy world of badly written Cold War spy novels
The source of all this so-called information is a fantasist conspiracy theorist with a record of producing such shit
Has it not occurred to you morons that it is an extremely convenient coincidence that this "information" has come to light at a time when the Government is in deep shit, with an unstable and warring leadership that, if is quite likely, will have to go to the polls yet again
If it does it is predicted that Labour will win THE NEXT ELECTION
'Bout time you people grew up and learned how British politics have always worked
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 04:05 AM

Dave,
I am constantly astonished that some people still cannot get the gist of 'fuck off'.

We all do Dave, but no-one has to take orders from you, however abusive.

Jim,
"He was just being groomed for future use."
Wasn't that The Manchurian Candidate Keith


No. It was Jeremy Corbyn according to the official records of the Czechoslovak communist era secret police, the StB, as reported by the BBC.

Steve,
Bwahahahahaha!

The laugh is on you and Rag.
I was right and you were wrong, yet again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 04:04 AM

Oh Dear! Some one else has the audacity to argue with shaw.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/23/take-former-spy-accusations-against-jeremy-corbyn-should-taken/

I suspect he knows a tad more about the subject than an ex union activist and ex teacher to boot!


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 03:34 AM

From: DMcG
Date: 25 Feb 18 - 03:31 AM
Vince Cable, leader of the Liberal Democrats, said: "It looks logistically impossible for the Conservatives to get the statutory instruments resulting from their EU (Withdrawal) Bill through Parliament before their preferred Brexit date of March next year.

"The only way they would have a fighting chance would be to cancel Christmas and summer holidays for MPs. That might upset their backbenchers, but we'll oppose their shambolic Brexit wherever, whenever.

How amusing. So MPs are being challenged to say which is more important

- the role of Parliament and proper scrutiny of bills affecting every aspect of UK life.
Or
- their holidays.

I think we can guess the answer.


Was this intended to make a point, or to highlight the fact that Vince Cable seems to confuse logic with logistic?


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Feb 18 - 07:29 PM

You haven't mentioned brexit in any of your last nine posts to this brexit thread, Iains. Your excuse is...?

I see we have the venerable Frank Field, that contrarian supremo, fighting the leavers' corner now. I've been asking meself (in his case, for years) why he's Labour, as with John Mann, just like I've been asking meself why Anna Soubry and Sayeed Warsi are Tories...

At times, even Ken Clarke...


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 25 Feb 18 - 05:14 PM

Strolling out for a troll again shaw? If you have nothing to contribute, you could simply keep quiet. I realise this could be quite a departure for someone as opinionated as yourself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Feb 18 - 03:59 PM

Constantly resorting to the Daily Mail and Guido means that you haven't even GOT a bar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Iains
Date: 25 Feb 18 - 03:32 PM

" seems to be as high as the bar gets for you Iains"

Well I do set the bar rather high for myself jimmy.
Whereas you, by your usual language, apparently inhabit the gutter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 25 Feb 18 - 02:20 PM

"He was just being groomed for future use."
Wasn't that The Manchurian Candidate Keith
Braindeads of the world Unite
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 25 Feb 18 - 02:15 PM


I am constantly astonished that you people can have such strong opinions on something you know nothing about.


I am constantly astonished that some people still cannot get the gist of 'fuck off'.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Post Brexit life in the UK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 25 Feb 18 - 02:13 PM

Rag,
I am inclined to forward this the Labour Party legal team in order that they make use of it.

Oh no! Please don't Rag. What will become of me?

one would assume some detailed knowledge of the facts.

Of course. My statements and claims can always be substantiated.
No shit about hoops from me.

BBC today,
"Nothing in Agent Dymic's descriptions of three meetings with the Labour MP - two in the House of Commons, one on Seven Sisters Road - suggest the StB ever regarded him as anything other than a potential source."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43168245


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