BS: Puerto Rico last in line

Subject: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Sep 17 - 08:14 AM

3.2 million peopled are characterized as people who do not pay their debts. "The Mayor of San Juan, who was very complimentary only a few days ago, has now been told by the Democrats that you must be nasty to Trump," he wrote.

San Juan mayor calls Puerto Rico crisis 'something close to genocide'
There are no comparisons that should be made to Texas or Florida.
Donald Trump says Puerto Rico is 'an island surrounded by big water'
San Juan Mayor slams US officials over response to Maria relief effort
"Such poor leadership ability by the Mayor of San Juan, and others in Puerto Rico, who are not able to get their workers to help.

"They want everything to be done for them when it should be a community effort. 10,000 Federal workers now on Island doing a fantastic job."

Mr Trump has defended his administration's response to the recent hurricane in Puerto Rico by explaining that the island is "surrounded by water".

He added that local governments had been "totally and unfortunately unable to handle this catastrophic crisis on their own – just totally unable to."

What media has not reported are the 8 police officers killed so far.
Throwing mud at Trump or the mayor or the San Juan mayor does nothing but make things worse.

The veneer of civilization is thinner than we think. If there has been a deliberate delay in aiding PR I do not know of it. The dangerous time for any devastated community is week 6 +. That is when the weakest die and the savage nature of man is exposed.

Having Bangladesh like disasters in the US has been shocking but inevitable. In the back of my brain I fear the racist hubris of my President is costing lives.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Sep 17 - 11:47 AM

If you leave your brain by the door and slip into Donald's shoes imagine the horror, anguish and frustration of having to allow people with little capital, less than white skin, Spanish speaking people into the US without a ban. Then getting slapped by a mayor who snuffs his 'fantastic recovery' story. Ouch.

Lt General Russell Honore' ret. of Katrina mobilization fame had the best organized recommendations I have heard; free tank of gas, Verizon mobile phone towers and allow "immigration" for up to a million people , then get to work on power water hospitals and finally homes.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Sep 17 - 03:48 PM

is that crickets - no its oddly quiet - that is singing
If there is no word by Thanksgiving, I'll go looking.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Sep 17 - 04:47 PM

Immigration for a million people? They're U.S. citizens, they don't need to immigrate.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Sep 17 - 05:59 PM

I put 'marks' around immigration. You are right that they are no more immigrants than Katrina victims were refugees. I left my brain at the door when I put on Donald's shoes. If Trump ever looked inside a body he would know there is no black and white, the brain is remarkably grey.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 17 - 09:00 AM

The Red Cross collected 350 million dollars for Hurricane Harvey relief.

The Red Cross collected 9 million for Puerto Rico.

Perhaps changing the name of Puerto Rico would help their despair.
Trump Island.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 17 - 03:36 PM

Ole' I only have the experience of Puerto Ricans being a fun loving people like Jamaicans but being American.

Is West Side story too old to remember for folks here?

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 17 - 11:54 AM

Last week NBC drove the PR highway 130 miles into the highlands all on camera. The road was perfectly clear. Residents asked if NBC was FEMA.

It has all been a lie that blocked roads prevents delivery of water and food.

Republican Congressmen are now declaring that aid to PR should be limited to 3 Billion and not seven which is way too much. They are now saying PR wants Xtra relief which is not the case.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Vashta Nerada
Date: 09 Oct 17 - 01:23 PM

Drumph doesn't want to hear about Puerto Rico. And FEMA "filtered out" any posts about (and from) the Mayor of San Juan, PR.

Politico article

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 09 Oct 17 - 04:42 PM

Is it correct that the Jones act has been reinstated at the request of the ship owner/operators leaving international humanitarian aid to PR having to be shipped thro US ports on US owned ships?

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Oct 17 - 06:37 PM

They lifted it for 10 days, is what the news said when it was lifted. Overseer Trump wants his rich friends to go back to gouging the island residents on all of their purchases and the cost of delivering supplies.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: EBarnacle
Date: 10 Oct 17 - 05:29 PM

Why can others help out quickly when our own government is quibbling about how little to spend. "A billion here, a billion there--soon we'll be talking about real money."

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/2/1703392/-Germany-steps-up-to-help-rebuild-power-grid-in-Puerto-Rico-s-emergency-relie

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Oct 17 - 09:18 AM

The air port in PR is now privatized. There is privatization going on everywhere in PR as the process of what the Mafia hoped to do to Cuba as seen in The Godfather but Wall street crooks are the mob today.

The electric grid will be privatized right AFTER it is restored with FEMA money.

The privatization financers started this process back in 2012. PR never got bailout after the 2008 collapse , they just had a fatal 30 year debt assembled by hedge fund investors.

This is all seemingly complex corruption so I am writing this in terms we can understand.

A PR diaspora will leave real estate deals for pennies on the dollar.

We will hear the real whispers by financiers into Trumps ear regarding the real plans for Puerto Rico if we only listen.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Oct 17 - 07:37 PM

And an alternative, represented by a Puerto Rican I only just heard of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luisa_Capetillo

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: meself
Date: 11 Oct 17 - 08:40 PM

"is now privatized" - That's what I was afraid of - more 'Shock Doctrine' disaster capitalism.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Oct 17 - 07:21 AM

FEMA is an emergency response agency under the control of Homeland Security HLS.

One problem is that no one is now in charge of HLS until Trump appoints someone to be director of Homeland Security.

General Kelly now Chief of Staff was director of HLS but he is now in the White House desperately trying to contain The Donald.

It seems to me no one is in charge of the White House either.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 13 Oct 17 - 09:06 AM

Maybe the most powerful person in POTUS circles is his caddy at Mar a Lago

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Oct 17 - 04:19 AM

Ever notice how some people miss the point all their life.
While POTUS condemns and castigates the people of PR he has no concept of, live by what I call Island time. PR is the tropics. People move not by clock but rather by today or tomorrow. It is a more natural state of being most of us will never enjoy. It is also weakened by Dengue' Fever, Malaria, STDs and Zika.

Sounds grim but Even San Diego has epidemics like Hep A
Hurricane deaths are few but disease is what will decimate the living in as little as two seasons.

I can only imagine that if Karma exists , Donald is a secret carrier of a PR virus injected by a now nauseated mosquito and the white house may soon become ground zero in return for the crass treatment and shoddy policy aimed at PR.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Jack Campin
Date: 14 Oct 17 - 06:27 PM

let them drink toxic waste

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 16 Oct 17 - 02:42 PM

I thought this was appropriate

Trump "Confounds the Science" song
Its followed by a similar parody of the "Boxer"

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Oct 17 - 02:54 PM

Kenny B both of those songs deserve to go viral.
If you know how to get that ball rolling, do it.

only 2,000 views is an insult

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 16 Oct 17 - 03:19 PM

Just sent it to relations in Mass and friends in Sweden who have a lot of DAPL friends and supporters ill keep its progress in view
German engineers are putting in power systems for some of the PR folks but at the end of the day it looks as if their national grid system will be privatised and power prices raised

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 17 - 06:54 AM

While PR went with Rubio in the 2016 primary election Trump came in second in the primary. Otherwise Hilly won

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 17 - 09:18 AM

About 800 Puerto Ricos would fit inside Texas.

Are Texans still without water and food from the HURICANE?
ELECTRICITY ?
PRESIDENTIAL SUPPORT?

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 17 - 09:26 AM

Perhaps some but not 1.3 million people.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Oct 17 - 10:17 PM

The PR relief and rebuilding effort has been given a perfect 10 out of 10 stars by Donald Trump today. 45% are without safe water.

Yes PR is primitive. Even in San Juan there are only street lights around the hotels for tourists.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 17 - 06:59 PM

I may have been contacted by my brother in PR but there was no sound, just caller info.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: keberoxu
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 05:43 PM

But Donuel,
what is this Whitefish contract ??

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 05:57 PM

From the same state as the dept of interior director there was a two person business that once replaced an electric power tower. Supposedly chosen by the PR electric utility it smells of corruption but wink wink nod nod this stuff is hard to prove. Whitefish has since hired 200 people.

US key to success ; Be first, if not first- cheat.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 28 Oct 17 - 07:30 AM

Whitefish Contract

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Oct 17 - 09:35 AM

Coney Island whitefish, obviously.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Oct 17 - 02:43 PM

The British museum team exploring Mona Island revealed these cave paintings 7 hours ago. 30,000 yrs old?




http://www.newsweek.com/puerto-rico-mona-island-cave-art-early-humans-civilization-696239


Mona Island is part of Puerto Rico

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Oct 17 - 02:45 PM

Donuel, you STILL don't know about your brother ??

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Jack Campin
Date: 31 Oct 17 - 01:55 PM

Over 900 dead

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Oct 17 - 09:34 PM

My caller ID had a Puerto Rico number but there was no sound so I will take that as a sign of life.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 17 - 11:33 AM

PR is again in a 80% black out

The main transmission line built by Whitefish has failed

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: keberoxu
Date: 10 Nov 17 - 07:24 PM

Cuba was not exactly annihilated in the hurricanes,
however the flooding hit many Cubans hard.
Did you see the photo from Havana of people in the streets,
with water up to their waists?

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Nov 17 - 08:17 PM

Can anything be sent by postal mail? Perhaps a solar charger and a satellite phone would be good gifts to send your brother. I have friends who live so far out in the desert of West Texas that the satellite phone is the only one that works much of the time. They can be lifesavers.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Nov 17 - 09:34 PM

The mail man is the first and last bastion of civilization.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Greg F.
Date: 12 Nov 17 - 09:02 AM

You're doin' a Helluva Job Trump !

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Nov 17 - 04:57 PM

Good news,
I heard my from my oldest brother tonight who was recently rescued by Osprey aircraft that set down on a little league field and the family is now under jurisdiction of the Marines. He has to stay at the destroyed home (50 days no power) to wait for a FEMA case manager assessor. Word is, two years from now until power can be restored. The phone signal would fade out but was never dropped.

He is set for medicine through the VA. There was an heroic tale of getting his daughter to emergency care.

Steven has three professional emergency management titles but without electricity and loss of all his radio transmitters he was just an average refugee (his word).

Two walls are destroyed but the concrete roof held. There are no possessions.




PS I even have 2 estranged younger brothers but I was raised as an only child.
Such is the nature of war.

Yep he has a heroic postman we will bet on and a temp post office is open.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Nov 17 - 05:09 PM

If you were going to throw away, donate or freecycle something as basic as a cup or a pot or towel please consider a modest postage cost to;

Steven Siddens
HC4 box 8681
Canovanas Puerto Rico
00729


remember no electricity

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Nov 17 - 05:19 PM

Hey that was my first satellite phone experience.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 Nov 17 - 07:07 PM

HIP HIP HOORAY! or something!

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Nov 17 - 07:19 PM

Where there is survival there is hope. Think how tough it is to begin all over again at 75

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 Nov 17 - 07:41 PM

... you must be his younger brother ...

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Nov 17 - 09:26 PM

He was the popular guy and I the nerd, Last we met was when he was still in the Navy.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Nov 17 - 03:01 PM

what has happened is that the events in PR is now effecting our health care system

100 drug and medical supply factories are in PR.
They are either shut dwon or running on monimal generators.
As a result basic antibiotics are in short supply.
IV bags are in short supply and many other devices.

npr

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Vashta Nerada
Date: 15 Nov 17 - 04:13 PM

Also according to NPR this morning, 70% of homes in Puerto Rico are still without electricity.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: keberoxu
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 03:01 PM

Donuel?
Any more updates
from your brother Steven,
or his daughter who needed emergency care?

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 03:14 PM

Only that a letter is headed his way. Starting over from rubble is tough for folks in their seventies.

Two years without electricity is not a cynical guess. It is most probable.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 05:11 PM

You're doin' one helluva job, Trumpy!

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: GUEST,keberoxu
Date: 23 Jan 18 - 12:09 PM

What is this about privatizing PREPA?

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 18 - 12:17 PM

As robomatic says you don't have to wind me up, I'm self winding.
I suspect he doesn't have family in PR as I do.

Research for yourself. It won't be the poor who buy back their Island for pennies on the dollar.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Greg F.
Date: 23 Jan 18 - 12:37 PM

You're doin' one helluva job, Trumpy!

But hey it aint like them Porta Rickens is Americans or somethin'......

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 18 - 12:16 PM

IT NOW BEGINS

The 3 month moratorium on mortgages ends today. Now everyone must pay their mortgage.

Foreclosures, short sales, defaults, abandonment, stand offs, suicides
are all to follow.

The pennies on the dollar sale is here. Come and get it.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Greg F.
Date: 24 Jan 18 - 12:48 PM

How much property is the Trump organization and its subsidiaries purchasing, Don?

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 18 - 03:54 PM

As in chess I only speculate on the next most likely moves. I try not to consult my ego but my unconscious guess is that another 20% of the Island will be extorted, exploited and swallowed by the casino class.

Developers could sell resort stays to former Puerto Ricans.

Enjoy 'Sand Won' casinos

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 24 Jan 18 - 04:12 PM

Will the first "Hotel" be the "Trunmp Bastille" so that it can be stormed and martial law declared?
Just a thought

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: leeneia
Date: 26 Jan 18 - 12:33 PM

This article in the Guardian sounds silly at first, but it has useful and current information:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/24/puerto-rico-hurricane-maria-hairstyles

If you really care, give money to Lutheran World Relief, a branch of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. (the liberal Lutherans). Specify that you want to help Puerto Rico.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 27 Jan 18 - 09:38 PM

A group of lineman left Lexington, Kentucky, yesterday to work in Puerto Rico. The husband of a first cousin once removed is one of them. I'm glad they are going now but wish they'd been sent sooner. This article is more general and not specifically about the group from Lexington, but my young cousin put a video or her husband and the others workers in line for security checks at the airport.
https://www.wtvq.com/2017/12/26/ku-lge-crews-help-restore-power-puerto-rico/

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Jan 18 - 11:04 AM

Puerto Rico Is A Man-Made Disaster

You're doin' one Helluva Job Trumpy!

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Jack Campin
Date: 29 May 18 - 04:18 PM

Seems like a really appalling disaster has been left unreported.

death toll 75 times higher than previous estimates

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: keberoxu
Date: 29 May 18 - 08:34 PM

Of course it's appalling -- tragic --
but, regarding the reporting and coverage,
who is surprised?

If I sound jaded, I'm sorry.
I guess I have never gotten over
the utter shame of what happened after Hurricane Katrina.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 May 18 - 12:14 AM

Trump went to Puerto Rico and threw paper towels at people. Bush thanked Brownie for doing a great job. Both were awful, but you'd think in this day and age the current administration would learn from mistakes of the past.

If it isn't about Trump, he doesn't want to hear about it. He doesn't have a golf course there, so fuck 'em. And the expensive shipping rules are back in place. It's a nasty piece of work.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 30 May 18 - 07:30 AM

By the rules of trump racism there are some US citizens who are treated less than citizens and punished to the point of covering up their deaths which is tantamount to murder.

You can add Steve Siddens to the 4,600, born in Indiana and died in PR
The Navy veteran radioman died without power after 9 months or a single visit from FEMA

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Jun 18 - 05:21 PM

Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health report.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Jack Campin
Date: 03 Jul 18 - 04:28 AM

And it drags on...

Homeless hurricane refugees in Florida

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: keberoxu
Date: 05 Jul 18 - 09:36 AM

In my present home state of Massachusetts,
the displaced families from Puerto Rico
are not having an easy time of it.
Massachusetts has done much to help them,
and yet it is neither simple nor easy.

There are laws in place which limit the aid they can receive,
and homelessness threatens many of these families.
The US Congress members from Massachusetts are in their corner;
however there are still many obstacles in their way.

This has been an especially emotional time
for families whose children are seniors in high school.
Some of them have graduated, after much support and hard work;
others floundered and dropped out, overwhelmed by the challenges.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Jack Campin
Date: 07 Aug 18 - 07:19 AM

Death toll report from Penn State study

You can bet this year's disasters, wherever they happen, will play out the same way.

Subject: RE: BS: Puerto Rico last in line
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Aug 18 - 02:19 PM

Yup Steve was my brother. Owing to Maria and his responsibilities to his Downs syndrome daughter, old age and being last in line, he died months after the storm.