BS: Trump is a one trick pony

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Vashta Nerada
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 10:14 AM

Tom Steyer posted this to address the mentally unstable individual who is the resident of the White House. There is a petition. Online petitions don't generally have much clout unless so many people sign that it can't be ignored, and then they generate more actionable documents.

Donald Trump has taken money from foreign governments, obstructed justice at the FBI, and even brought us to the brink of nuclear war. We need to impeach this dangerous president.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 09:59 AM

Acme's post yesterday at 09:02 P.M. hit the nail square on the head.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Stu
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 09:17 AM

Sorry. Didn't realise I was being a troll. I'll get me coat.

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The trick is to not take their bait. They want to argue against Trump's detractors, they want to point fingers in all directions except at the Orange One, or they will suggest they have first amendment rights to be heard in order to foul the discussion. You weren't being called a troll. This is a moderated thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 08:30 AM

Then go with the spirit of the thread. Don't be a troll like the others who got the boot. Consider this a moderated thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Stu
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 05:41 AM

"They don't get it."

Unfortunately for the USA, by spending decades as the self-appointed "leader of the free world" and imposing it's will on the rest of the world both politically and culturally, we DO have a vested interest in the political happenings of the US; we have a vested interest because the United States has made sure we all have a vested interest (as well as a personal interest, having good friends there and loving the place). Now that the US is no longer the leader of the free world, but a country led by a blithering idiot narcassist, we still have a vested interest as what Trump does send ripples around the globe.

So we are entitled to comment on these threads as what happens affects us directly, it's just we see US politics differently because we experience it differently.

People in the US can be so insular. They don't get it.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 09:02 PM

He's a sociopath, a predator, and a sneak. Trying to change the tax code without releasing his taxes, for example. The practices he has demonstrated to date, the high expenses of maintaining his lifestyle are one thing to go by - charging the Secret Service to use space in his hotels, golf courses, and building in NYC are one part. The emoluments aspect of the old Post Office hotel in DC that is clearly a way to pour money into his pockets to curry favor is another.

His one trick is to wring the government itself, and the middle and lower classes dry as he tries to set up himself and his rich friends to keep more and take more than they do already. He is undercutting the social infrastructure to do it - if the Tea Party Republicans can get all of the "socialism" out of the US way of doing things - insured health care, looking out for the poor, providing adequate or excellent educations for all, making sure everyone has enough to eat, looking out for retirees and the disabled - they'll let Trump keep skimming off of the top. They don't care about that (and like the Koch brothers, many of them are also very rich, not just ideologues.)

Subject: BS: The American President
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 08:10 PM

Many have suggested he I not composmentis, what are your thoughts?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 08:09 PM

This thread is not about all of the stuff that some of our UK members keep trying to turn it into. They don't get it.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 12:12 PM

And speaking of tRUMP- here are a bunch of his second-ammendment, NRA, anti-government type supporters, following tRump's lead:

Conspiracy theorists ? some of whom claim that the government staged the shooting on 1 October or that the tragedy was a hoax ? have targeted survivors and victims? loved ones, spamming every social media platform with misinformation and abuse. On Facebook and YouTube in particular, users have published viral posts and videos calling people like Braden ?crisis actors?, alleging they were hired to pose as victims.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/26/las-vegas-shooting-conspiracy-theories-social-media

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 12:10 PM

Yes. Absolutely.

Hint: thread topic is tRUMP.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Stu
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 11:48 AM

"Stu if you, or anybody else for that matter, come out with anything, on any topic that I know to be incorrect, I will point the error out and I will correct it"

Firstly, I was responding to Ake not yourself (although his post appears to have disappeared).

Secondly, I'm not sure why you're denying the Trump campaign's ties to Russian intelligence; Trump Jr. met with them hoping for dirt on Clinton, and there are plenty of other reports of equal;l veracity, and some parts of the Steele report are also true. This is accepted across the board, the question is how extensive these ties were. Fully expect a video or recording of Trump being pissed on by Russian call-girls to be leaked (geddit?) at some point.

From NBC: Yes, the Russia-Trump Investigation Is Real

Clinton's campaign might have put money into the publication of the Steele dossier, but this is not collusion with a foreign power; indeed the FBI were involved as well by all account. There's something odd about Trump's accusations over this as it looks like the Steele dossier might well be a legitimate document that Trump's corporate machine is trying to discredit; hard to do when the person slinging the accusations about is an utter liar and lacks any integrity. Anyone would have to be an idiot to trust him.

My (useless and probably poorly informed) opinion is what we are seeing here is a feud between the US state machine and political establishment against Trump and his allies. Trump is no politician, but a hustler who will do anything to get 'the deal' including lie and defame. His very presence in the White House is an affront to many people who are used to more respect from the Oval Office; Trump doesn't give a fuck about tradition/history/acting in a presidential fashion as he never has had to. Like many uber-capitalists (and we all know people in business who are like this) he will steamroller, cajole and act in as machiavellian a manner as needed to achieve his aims. He's fucked so many people off including some he should have had more sense to challenge so rashly, including the CIA and FBI.

Then common sense is an abstract concept to Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 09:57 AM

Firm Tied to Trump Asked WikiLeaks for Data, Assange Says

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/us/julian-assange-wikileaks-trump.html

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: gillymor
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 09:46 AM

Something (White)fishy here.

Rather than drain it Twitler has given "the Swamp" a steroid injection.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 08:10 AM

Americans researching the foibles of American candidates is legal. Russians trying to undermine American candidates is not. It's that simple.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: gillymor
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 08:06 AM

Here is the last paragraph of the "uranium article" linked below from Politifacts:

"But for now, there isn?t enough evidence to suggest that Clinton?s actions -- ill-advised as they might have been -- were any more problematic than it seemed they were a year ago."

It was obviously resurrected to divert attention from Donal Jerk's problems.

Re the swamp,
Trump Has Filled, Not Drained, the Swamp- The Atlantic

And the Atlantic story was published before we were aware of the problems of the ethically challenged HHS Secretary Tom Price

Step aside U.S. Grant and Warren G., Twitler is on track to supplant you as head of the most corrupt administration in our history.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Teribus
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 07:49 AM

Can somebody explain to me the logic that no statement however ridiculous that is made can have it's deficiencies, errors and inaccuracies pointed out without the person pointing out those errors being accused of defending, or supporting the subject of those deficiencies, errors and inaccuracies?

Stu if you, or anybody else for that matter, come out with anything, on any topic that I know to be incorrect, I will point the error out and I will correct it. So far absolutely nothing of any substance has been turned up by all those scrambling about trying to prove that Donald Trump and the Republicans sought Russian help to influence the last US Presidential election. Evidence has been found however, of Hilary Clinton's campaign team and the Democrats, doing precisely that. Now I think that fact should be brought to light in the interests of truth, don't you Stu?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Stu
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 06:50 AM

"This thread is disgraceful on a par with the other anti Trump threads"

So... you're basically defending a man who:

? Boasts about grabbing a women's "pussy"

? Boasts about trying to be a married woman

? Insulted a disabled journalist by mocking him publicly

? Has been openly misogynistic towards female journalists

? Insults the widows and memories of soldiers killed in service

? Dodged the draft himself because he was white and rich

? Routinely lies in the most blatant fashion, normalising deceit.

? Has played golf 71 times since becoming president (278 days), costing the taxpayer around $75m

? Has defended nazis and white supremacists

? Is actively pursuing a war with North Korea

? Has called climate change, by far the largest and most immediate threat to human civilisation "a hoax"

? His team has routinely used private email servers for government business (which he endlessly slated Clinton for)

? Has links to family businesses that are using his presidency to promote themselves

? Is the only president never to have shared his tax returns

etc etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 06:33 AM

Ake and Teribus fall short of the ability to be corrected, learn incontrovertible truth or apologize effectively. Moderation is the key to help YOU not be as moot as you make yourself. So I won't bother to correct habitual propaganda conspiracy gluttons.

One day you could be a customer of Trump but other than that you are just aliens and peons.

I will explain to others what the Uranium deal accomplished or the joint Rep and Dem ownership of the Steele dossier when time allows but not as a response to the permanently truth deprived.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Teribus
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 04:19 AM

Good heavens, what can be the matter? All well and good to put up unsubstantiated surmise that Mueller's investigation into the "Golden Showers" Dossier will undoubtedly turn up dirt on Trump, but when it turns out that the whole thing was paid for by Hilary Clinton and the Democrats - the post pointing that out gets deleted. Free speech and respect for the truth are great concepts aren't they?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 17 - 07:25 PM

"I know words, I know the best words, I'm like a smart person."
D Trump

"The sagacity of Donald Trump is huge"
J Amash

"I am firm and fit from golf, its Amash who has a saggy ass!"

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 25 Oct 17 - 11:28 AM

The thread title sounds like it should be a song title:
Possibly from 10cc's "Life is a minestrone"

Trump is a one trick pony, covered by straw coloured thatch . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: gillymor
Date: 25 Oct 17 - 06:00 AM

Twit may have found his Joseph Welch moment with Flake's speech on the Senate floor yesterday.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 17 - 04:33 PM

Another Senator will resign rather than be complicit with Trump.

GOP Sen Flake; "We have fooled ourselves long enough that Trump will return to civility".

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 17 - 10:34 AM

Trump has become totally uncorked and has spewed Tweet vomit all over Senator Corker .
Senator Corker has had the courage to say the same things I have said about Trump.

Now they are going to have a Congressional Luncheon together.

Its going to be an amateur 'Whose line is it anyway today.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Oct 17 - 02:59 PM

Sympathy loaned to a man without empathy will never be returned.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 09:43 PM

The great golden Trump

I know every ship of state
will run out of real estate.
will sail past shoals most cruel
All ships can run out of fuel
It may even lose motion.
Or run out of ocean

In my imagination
A voyage celebration
or a humiliation
is all up to the Captain.
To this skippers great anger
he forgot to weigh anchor

for the great, golden Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 07:04 PM

UK Channel 4 programme on tonight.

Trump and Russia: Sex, Spies and Scandal. It should be in catch-up any minute now.

They dish the dirt and although we know the pile is way deep, they show it to be mega deep......

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 03:28 PM

The lowest common denominator and the biggest possible asshole are now the same thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 11:42 AM

The Trump Effect - the effect of making anti or pro Trump people become more raw in their rhetoric and their feelings. The Trump effect seems to diminish sophistication and civility by 90% or more.
Once you stoop to his level you are kneeling in sewerage. Intellectual constituency and honesty go out the window.

(may be a 'thing' one day)

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Greg F.
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 10:33 AM

Perhaps because the soldier is African American. This is typical Trump bigotry.

Could have been worse - he could have been Puerto Rican.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 10:31 AM

"Both he and Baron look like they have never had a dog,
or a sympathetic father".

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 10:23 AM

euek
Damn, I made myself nauseous.
someday I will say what I really mean.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 10:07 AM

Yup he is God's wreaking ball and playground land mine.

both he and Baron look like they have never had a dog.

ask not who he frames, he frames himself

he is a fistula on the tumor of self centered ignorance
oozing toxic puss into the eyes of children who watch him

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 08:20 AM

Perhaps because the soldier is African American. This is typical Trump bigotry.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: gillymor
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 07:19 AM

This petty, small-minded, egotistical little man continues to cultivate his legacy as worst president in our history with remarks like "He must have known what he signed up for." to a grieving widow.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 06:13 AM

To mother of a recant fallen soldier in Niger;
"He must have known what he signed up for".
Trump

Trump about McCain "At some point I'll fight back and it won't be pretty".

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 17 - 10:02 AM

The demonstration of kneeling pales white in comparison to the non violent demonstrations of Ghandi and MLK that were met with shootings and beatings.

Also the neo Nazis although embolden by the administration are in a larval stage of being pre brown shirts [SA]Nazi supporters like before Hitler came to power.

If there is a time they are most vulnerable, it is now.

That being said, words are cheap and action speaks louder.

We know ignoring this, is at our own peril.

NEVER FORGET the US gun militias hide behind a curtain of patriotic credos and out number the brown shirts of Germany. Explore them from the inside out and you will find they are halfway to becoming mobilized by Bannon like figures.

If people wait and see, they will.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Oct 17 - 03:43 PM

Trump preaches moral clarity as advised by the prosperity evangelical Christians who advise his cabinet.

Moral clarity sounds like Ethnic Cleansing lite.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Oct 17 - 01:04 PM

Is this what the Vegas shooter envisioned?

This could bode horrifically for future peace marches.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Oct 17 - 12:49 PM

In the 3 pronged attack against Trump; impeachment, Special counsel and the 25th amendment, I imagine the first two coinciding and the 25th being least likely to succeed.

It is pure guesswork if Trump and Bannon will call on armed right wing militias to further their cause after being deposed with domestic terrorism aimed at the left. We can be certain his cause will continue on twitter no matter what. Unless sedition is enough to ban twitter accounts.

Calling such behavior a civil war is unhelpful but possible.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Oct 17 - 08:39 AM

The Trick: Divide and Conquer

the treat: Tax cuts for the rich

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Oct 17 - 11:30 PM

The GOP isn't finished gutting the Great Society. Until that is finished, they'll leave the Village Idiot in place to distract everyone from their dastardly deeds.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Oct 17 - 09:29 PM

... once he hits them in the bank account or starts a war that gets their kids killed, they'll actually SEE him.

Would you care to make a small wager on that?? Tho I'd hate to take your money that easily.....

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Jeri
Date: 14 Oct 17 - 07:03 PM

For NOW they support him. I suspect once he hits them in the bank account or starts a war that gets their kids killed, they'll actually SEE him.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Greg F.
Date: 14 Oct 17 - 06:33 PM

and even THEY know he lies.

Yet, they support him and will continue to do so. Morons all.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Jeri
Date: 14 Oct 17 - 02:49 PM

His latest with health care sabotage mostly hurts voters in "his" states, and even THEY know he lies. He's already in trouble, and it doesn't seem it's going to get any better.
And then, there are the cowardly Republicans too afraid to stand up to him.

...and we see them all. The mid-terms are gonna be interesting.

He's making Obama look really, really good. I mean, which one of them would you loan $20 to?

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Oct 17 - 12:22 PM

Trump has been erasing Obama in every conceivable way.

In ancient Egypt there is evidence of some weak Pharaohs doing the same to their predecessor.

This automatic practice might cost Donald his life or ours.
If he reverses Obama SS changes he will be sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Oct 17 - 06:48 AM

cartoon- Bannon memo

1 Appoint family and loyalists to power.
2 Fire officials purge scapegoats
3 Attack and ban freedom of press
4 Grow military shrink diplomats
5 Go to war

cartoon
trump- "I have been told by secret service that I am being actively attacked by Al Symer. I do not know who Al Symer is, but I will get to the bottom of this."

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Oct 17 - 06:09 AM

=GOP=GOT=DNC

cartoon
Das Exsecutiveorder: All black NFL owned players are required to stand and salute the flag for which it stands for Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: Trump is a one trick pony
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Oct 17 - 05:49 AM

Raggytash I am impressed you have correctly translated the dyslexic spelling of Pollard aka he who shall not be named. In the real world I blank or mistake proper names every three minutes.Always did always will. Unacceptable in the professional world but there are worse things like not learning anything new.

I woke up with an idea for a cartoon I do not understand.
tweet: Smite the fake fake fakers of fakery; CNN=NBC=CBS=NYT=SNL=TNG