BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold

Subject: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 17 - 12:46 PM

Forbes: The 400 richest Americans leave many American billionaires off the list. I suppose Trump is among those left out in the cold.
But we may never know. A minimum 2 Billion dollars is the cut off number for the mighty 400.
Our hearts and prayers go out to the losers.
Please give to: theforgotenbillionaires.com

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: meself
Date: 17 Oct 17 - 01:27 PM

Okay - so now I

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: meself
Date: 17 Oct 17 - 01:28 PM

get why I wasn't on the list .....


(I know - hardly worth two posts - that was an accident).

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: leeneia
Date: 17 Oct 17 - 01:37 PM

I don't believe a person can really be a billionaire. The real test of wealth is this - how much money would you get if you liquidated all your assets? Say in a week.

If an ultra-rich person decided to do that, the value of the assets would slide constantly downward as he put them on the market. There would be a glut. There would also be a growing lack of confidence in what he's selling. ("Why is he unloading? What does he know?")

It's kind of like the strength of ants. An ant can lift a large weight compared to its own weight, but you cannot simply multiply an ant to a giant ant and get an ant that can life a ton. It won't work. I forget just why.

So there are two examples that show that you cannot take an ordinary amount, multiply it out the wazoo on your calculator and arrive at a realistic value.

I believe that there are very rich people, but not really any billionaires.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 17 - 03:51 PM

Beware the ten ton Ant Antazon

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: leeneia
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 10:03 AM

It would be nice to be reasonably rich, but what's the point of overdoing? What are you going to do, buy more homes to take care of? Hire more servants and wonder if they're honest? Get a yacht and worry about rogue waves? Have drug dealers prey on your kids?

Being a billionaire is overrated.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: michaelr
Date: 18 Oct 17 - 10:32 PM

I'd like to hear that from a billionaire.

BTW, George Soros just donated 18 of his 23 billion.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 Oct 17 - 04:18 AM

Liliane Bettencourt (US$44.3 billion) argued with her daughter over who was in her will and didn't want her daughter controlling her life yet in her dotage that is exactly what happened.
Did money make her happy? Or did she get the second prize - comfortable discomfort!

Her father built L'Oreal on selling military paint to Hitler. Should we care about her discomfort?

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Oct 17 - 08:35 PM

The real test of wealth is this - how much money would you get if you liquidated all your assets? Say in a week.

Why, it would take me longer than that just to count my money -- and that's with help! And it could take two or three weeks just to sell the houses, not to mention the antique car collection! And the yachts -- why, the "Emerald Princess of the Seas" is having the Master's Cabin repaneled in the wood of an endangered species and I surely wouldn't want to interrupt that! And the jewels! Why, the Renoirs along would take a month to count!

Simply impossible.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Oct 17 - 10:36 PM

Jeez, and I thought having one original Maxfield Parrish that used to hang at the Eastman School of Music was a status symbol.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: leeneia
Date: 21 Oct 17 - 12:15 PM

Of course it's a status symbol.

There's a beautiful Maxfield Parrish at the Crystal Bridges Museum. It absolutely glows. You'd swear there's a light behind it.

When I was in Fort Lauderdale, I saw a yacht they said was Stephen Spielberg's. Man, was it ugly. If Darth Vader has a yacht, it would look like that. Black copings extended out every deck, so it looked like some kind of armored insect. I thought the copings were there to protect the skin of movie stars from the sun's harmful UV rays, but a friend said it was to keep papparazzi from flying overhead and snapping pics of privileged characters.

Isn't it hell? Work so hard for all that money, and then you have to have an ugly yacht.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: leeneia
Date: 21 Oct 17 - 12:18 PM

I guess the copings are white, not black. It still looks like a spy boat from an evil empire.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: leeneia
Date: 21 Oct 17 - 01:28 PM

See what I mean?

What was I thinking?


If you wanted to get rid of it, you'd probably have to pay somebody to take it away.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 Oct 17 - 05:20 AM

Man - that's ugly.

If ghetto blasters could float - well maybe they can!

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Raggytash
Date: 24 Oct 17 - 05:31 AM

If you see stephen Speilberg tell him I'll swap my Shetland 570 for it.

Shetland 570

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 17 - 06:52 AM

To copy a Maxfield Parrish is more time consuming than forging a Vemeer. It is almost copy proof, making six or more translucent layers with a polished layer of varnish between layers. Each layer takes forever. Each succesive layer becomes more detailed. Thin paint stipeling for texture is full of misadventure. The initial layers are brighter than they look.

The learning curve for this technique is steep and perilous but the glowing depth effect is worthwhile. Once. 'Parrish blue' in reality is about a thousand graduated hues.

Like many original works they can not be adequately photographed.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: leeneia
Date: 24 Oct 17 - 09:39 AM

Hi, Raggytash. Is that your Shetland 570 on the lower right, the one with a hot tub? You are giving Spielberg a run for his money.

Thanks for the info, Donuel. That's interesting about Parrish's technique. The painting at Crystal Bridges show Pierrots hanging glowing yellow lanterns in a bare, black tree. It's beautiful.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Raggytash
Date: 24 Oct 17 - 02:41 PM

No Leeneia it's the tatty one top left !! Whisky Business !!

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 17 - 05:29 PM

If you ever want to paint a Parrish painting and save an enormous amount of time, I discovered you can paint directly on an old portable projector/movie screen (now obsolete) and layer with a series of translucent paints. Allow to dry each layer and start pale at first and deepening in successive layers. Better to make more layers than rush and deepen color too fast on one layer. Water color technique will embolden your patience.

The screen has embedded glass beads or one can make one from scratch since micro glass beads can be purchased. To do the lantern picture common sense says to start with a gradient blacking out the far edges.

Paintings like these require dedicated lighting and avoidance of opaque paint on anything but deep shadow. A final layer of extreme thinned opaque paint can be used in lit shadow areas.

The weeks and months of varnish polishing is bypassed. If you are an air brush master you can save more time but still use a point brush at the end for detail.

Some people start with a light pencil and others use projection optics to preserve accuracy. project time is 4 weeks compared to months of dust.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: leeneia
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 11:15 AM

Yeah, but how much time passes as you search for an old projector screen?

We have one, but you can't have it because we need it to see slides from our early travels.

Have you don'e any painting of this type yourself, Donuel? If so, I'd like to see an image.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: leeneia
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 08:57 AM

Nice boat, Raggytash.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 10:52 AM

I have one and one on the way. Photos fail to show illumination, backlit or reflected glass bead light, but 3D works a bit. The subtleness of the effect is what lends it an air of visual mystery.

Colored Foil paintings are crass
there is beauty in colored glass
phosphorus paint never will last
but transparent layers have class.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: DMcG
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 11:02 AM

I have a genuine Matisse hanging in my hallway...

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: DMcG
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 11:06 AM

Unfortunately it is by Pierrw, not Henri.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 11:24 AM

painting on safety glass is fun because you can have any number of layers and set them in a window for sunlight to play.

Oh god are they heavy. On an industrial double pane window you can add two flush panes front and back and you'll have 12 surfaces you could paint or leave blank as you see fit.

simple foliage takes on a head wobbling depth. You can hide birds.
Blue skies or gradient colors really do need airbrush. but happy clouds like thin paint and a brush. There is a background technique for sun beams.

where new layers are essential; you can apply foreground opaque mixed media acrylic over solvent thinned paint but applying a solvent painted cloud on a solvent painted blue sky will melt the thin blue, that's why a new layer for clouds near or far are good.

Now go be the god of your landscape and make a new world.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 12:24 PM

btw a safety glass painting will weigh 50 to 100 lbs.

One more double pane technique. A clear pane suspended 2 1/2 inches above a mirror. On the front of the clear pane one could paint an iridescent hummingbird in flight, On the back of the clear pane where a hummingbird is, one can paint a dancer or figure skater. On the mirror, one can paint the edges in a background melding elements of both dancer and bird but leave a reflective space that will capture the dancer at all available angles.
This kind of painting weighs less than 15lbs or use chrome paper instead of a mirror and cut the weight by half.

Other themes could be a frog / bhudda , male / female, flower / planet, face / different face etc. Keep the inside (reflected painting inside the edges of the front painting. They could be roughly the same outline or exact. You may choose to paint the edges of the front pane that would cleverly reflect or not.

There is room for variations that can be simple but one of a kind remarkable.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 12:41 PM

Suppose you can't paint?
This last technique can use photos scissors and transparent glue and still get the same surprising effect or metaphor.

The main difference would be a thousand dollar price point compared to $89.95

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 07:54 PM

Whats good about chrome paper or chrome car wrap is that you can curve it like a carnival fun mirror.
After a well intentioned incident 7 years ago my paintings are private like Zorba was mean free about his music and dance. (self entertainment) I have provided detail segments as attachments for explanation only. Layered images only present themselves in 3D space, not 2 dimensional photos. Besides a true artist can create the illusion of 3 D in only 2 dimensions. Giving the illusion of 4D can be done in 3D or 2 D with cinema. ex. Interstellar.

That was my final 'worth a thousand words' explanation of a picture.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 30 Oct 17 - 07:42 AM

3D pictures rendered in 2D:
The Sun - Floating Zebra

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Oct 17 - 12:01 PM

I like it. It should slow traffic quite well. Perspective tricks often only work from one perspective.

Subject: RE: BS: 169 billionaires left out in the cold
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Oct 17 - 02:45 PM

The British museum team exploring Mona Island revealed these cave paintings 7 hours ago. These are new old paintings 30,000 yrs old?




http://www.newsweek.com/puerto-rico-mona-island-cave-art-early-humans-civilization-696239