BS: Who shot JFK

Subject: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 09:12 AM

Documents are to be released today. It would take over 9 years to read them all. There could be some who may see that Hillary is to blame and should be locked up.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 09:38 AM

More importantly, who shot JR?

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Will Fly
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 10:44 AM

Yes but who shot the sheriff?

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 10:45 AM

Yeah but who shot the sheriff ?

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Mr Red
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 11:17 AM

who killed cock robin?

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: EBarnacle
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 11:49 AM

Someone with a rifle. Mother Superior?

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 12:16 PM

Thought she jumped the gun rather than shooting it......

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Vashta Nerada
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 12:26 PM

He was her man but he done her wrong. ♫ ♫

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 01:45 PM

It wasn't me. I was in 7th grade Spanish class in Jacksonville, Florida.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 02:16 PM

...but I did not shoot the deputy.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 05:55 PM

I was in 7th grade math class with Mr. Craft (Snape) who was thoroughly amused, laughing and discussed what a hunting rifle does and sounds like when a slug hits it in the head.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 06:12 PM

My dad reckons LBJ done it. He's worked out the car positionings and the sites of the wounds, everything. He also reckons that there's no global warming, that Einstein was an idiot, that man cannot pass through the Van Allen belts, that the moon landings were faked and that Billy Connolly is a foul-mouthed Scottish bastard (his precise words).

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 08:33 PM

Who shot JFK...????

Who cares anymore...

What we really need to know is which one of you mudcat old gits deliberately knocked Ed Sheeran off his bike...!!!??? 😜

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 11:13 PM

It would be interesting to see a consise list of JFK assassination conspiracy theories, because I don't think I'll ever find time to read the Wikipedia page on JFK assassination conspiracies. The theorists have been waiting all these years for these documents to be released and prove their theories right.
But there are certain documents that are being withheld at the request of the FBI and CIA, so the conspiracy theories will continue to thrive.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 11:18 PM

Here you go, Joe! JFK assassination conspiracy theories courtesy Wikipedia.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: meself
Date: 26 Oct 17 - 11:32 PM

I have no trouble with the lone nut theory - it's the TWO lone nuts theory that bothers me. I'm talking about Oswald AND Ruby. I wonder if there's ever been another prominent assassination in which the first lone nut is rubbed out in short order by a second lone nut ... ?

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 07:21 AM

I wonder how any kind of decision was made to keep some secret still... Did they read them all, and if not, what did they base the decision on?

I wonder if we will actually learn anything other than he would have lived with modern medicine. Unlikely in my mind, but the bullet was in his.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: akenaton
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 11:09 AM

Apparently it was the CIA and FBI who withheld some of the papers, on National Security Grounds, President Trumps wanted to expose the whole grubby mess.
You can bet your arse that there is some really incriminating stuff which will reflect badly on the US political establishment....and we all know who THEY are.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 11:26 AM

My guess is Trump was just obsessed with finding out the answer to satisfy his own curiosity, and sod the rest of the world ever knowing the truth...???

Next he'll pull presidential strings to have a sneak peek in the Area 51 filing cabinet...

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: olddude
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 11:44 AM

I think it was rap...

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: akenaton
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 11:47 AM

You're not very radical for a punkfolkrocker, I thought you would be opposed to establishment censorship......or any other kind of censorship. :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: akenaton
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 11:49 AM

That wasn't addressed to you Dan...I know you're "right on radical".

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 12:42 PM

Ake - when have I ever stated or implied I am in favour of censorship..
I insist folks should always be allowed to permanently damn themselves with their own words in a public arena... 😎

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 01:43 PM

President Trumps wanted to expose the whole grubby mess.

No, Ake, tRUMP had/has nothing whatsoever to do with it. Release of the documents was legally mandated long before Ptresident Id-Baby came along.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Kampervan
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 03:13 PM

In fact Trump has vetoed the release of a number of those papers.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 06:05 PM

I want to know what the gassy roll has to do with it.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 17 - 06:55 PM

or was it the gassy Noel?

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 28 Oct 17 - 04:55 AM

It is usually cock up not conspiracy.
There is evidence that the fatal shot was from the following security vehicle, probably fired accidentally, and that was then covered up by the secret services.
It would have been hard for Oswald to cock and fire another shot so quickly and accurately.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Will Fly
Date: 28 Oct 17 - 06:00 AM

With respect, Keith, there was an excellent documentary some years ago which examined, among other things, Oswald's army record. He was a first-class shot, perfectly capable of swift shooting - which they demonstrated by having a similarly trained marksman repeat the speed of the shooting.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Oct 17 - 09:32 AM

There is evidence that the fatal shot was from the following security vehicle, probably fired accidentally, and that was then covered up by the secret services.

No, Professor, there is no such "evidence"- its bullshit, your usual stock in trade.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 28 Oct 17 - 01:06 PM

There is the evidence of witness reports if not proof Greg.
The headshot was remarkable or lucky for any marksman. I only said hard Will, not impossible.

I was hoping to start some actual discussion of the theories instead of just banter.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Oct 17 - 02:39 PM

I do have to defend KAoH here - a few years ago a TV documentary here in the U.K. investigated the shooting, using evidence that is in the public domain and, I believe, evidence from ballistics experts, which reached the conclusion that the shot which killed JFK came from the gun of one of the security agents in the car following JFK's car, who drew his weapon when the first shot hit, and accidentally fired it when the car braked/jerked/bounced/whatever.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 28 Oct 17 - 02:42 PM

Not sure it constitutes 'evidence', but it is certainly a perfectly reasonable hypothesis.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: meself
Date: 28 Oct 17 - 03:34 PM

Over the years, I've heard various 'authorities' on Oswald's marksmanship - some say he was run-of-the-mill at best, while others claim that he was an unusually proficient sharpshooter. Similarly with ballistics 'experts': one 'proves' that he couldn't have made all the shots; others 'prove' that he could have. I've given up on that angle! To me, it's really the Ruby thread that needs more serious tugging. As I say, one lone nut is plausible - but two lone nuts?

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Will Fly
Date: 28 Oct 17 - 03:53 PM

The documentary cameras showed Oswald's marksmanship record from his military service. Just saying. But I'm not being dogmatic about it.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Raggytash
Date: 28 Oct 17 - 04:46 PM

Will, if we're dealing with conspiracies his records could have been falsified!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Oct 17 - 05:21 PM

Not sure it constitutes 'evidence'...

It doesn't.

but it is certainly a perfectly reasonable hypothesis.

As is the one that says Space Aliens did it.

If there's "evidence"- PRODUCE IT. End of story.

[NB:This request to Backwoodsman. No point with The Professor.]

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: meself
Date: 28 Oct 17 - 08:36 PM

It seems to me that I've heard differing interpretations of the military records themselves ... ! As someone who knows nothing about marksmanship and its related military categorization, I'm at the mercy of whatever 'authority' has the most convincing bedside manner ..........

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 03:50 AM

And I thought the interesting times were are living in was - right now.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 04:35 AM

Greg, we are discussing the evidence.
What is your problem?

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 04:45 AM

Don't behave like a cunt with me Greg, all I did was tell you about a TV documentary that was shown in the U.K., and I said that I'm not sure it qualifies as evidence. It does, though, qualify as a 'theory'.

Now, direct your cuntishness at someone who does actually give a flying fuck.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 05:00 AM

This qualifies as evidence if not proof.

At least seven people smelled gunsmoke in the street, including a police motorcyclist following the car and a senator in a following car.
This and more evidence here,
http://listverse.com/2014/06/08/10-reasons-jfks-death-might-have-been-an-accident/

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 09:17 AM

Now, direct your cuntishness at someone who does actually give a flying fuck.

Well, Sunshine, if you don't give a flying fuck, why have you bothered posting? Time hanging heavy on your hands?

Professor, you have yet to post anything remotely resembling "evidence".

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 11:57 AM

Witness testimony is accepted as evidence in any court Greg.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 12:12 PM

The 'accident' theory...

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 12:27 PM

Witness testimony is accepted as evidence

Ever read up on the reliability of eyewitness testimony, Profesor?

Yup, Backwoodsman: emphasis upon "theory".

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 12:33 PM

I never claimed it was anything else.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 01:23 PM

It is still evidence Greg, and accepted as such in any court.

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 02:17 PM

Ever read up on the reliability of eyewitness testimony, Profesor?

Subject: RE: BS: Who shot JFK
From: olddude
Date: 29 Oct 17 - 02:31 PM

It was rap, just ask him were he was on that date.. He is a librarian and knows book depository and such and he is a good shot.. It was rap I say