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BS: Favourite TV cowboy

Big Al Whittle 25 Nov 17 - 12:27 PM
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Subject: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 25 Nov 17 - 12:27 PM

I used to like Hopalong Cassidy played by William Boyd. He gad a white horse called Topper, and he finished every episode with a hearty laugh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Nov 17 - 03:33 PM

The Lone Ranger. No contest.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Acme
Date: 25 Nov 17 - 04:09 PM

Most of the cowboys Sam Elliot played. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 25 Nov 17 - 04:22 PM

How about a cowgirl? Annie Oakley, of course!


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 25 Nov 17 - 04:48 PM

Roy Rogers was the best but I quite liked the Lone Ranger. I didn't reckon much to Hopalong Cassidy - his hat was too big.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: ranger1
Date: 25 Nov 17 - 05:07 PM

Cheyenne, closely followed by Gil Favor.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Greg F.
Date: 25 Nov 17 - 05:23 PM

Maverick. Bret, that is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 25 Nov 17 - 05:57 PM

The woman next door to us used to go on about Flint McCullough, the scout on Wagon Train being really handsome.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Nov 17 - 07:28 PM

Rowdy Yates before he went right-wing. Yeah, Gil Favor, a moral man unjustly pock-marked. Hoss, Adam and Little Joe Cartwright. That bloke who was the cook on Wagon Train. I love a man whose cooking can make thirty other men fart like troopers. What a shame thst the phenomenon wasn't made public until Blazing Saddles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Mr Red
Date: 26 Nov 17 - 04:25 AM

A bit of folklore for you - a phrase that was doing the rounds among UK kids at the time:

Don't be a twerp like Wyatt Erp, be a man like Cheyenne


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: gillymor
Date: 26 Nov 17 - 06:04 AM

For me it was The Rifleman, played by Chuck Connors. The character was a ranching widower who was bringing up a young son, teaching him tolerance, generosity of spirit and how to be a good citizen as well as a good rancher. The music was great, the writing was generally good and best of all Lucas McCain would often gun down 1-4 deserving villians in the last few frames with his rapid-firing Winchester.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: banjoman
Date: 26 Nov 17 - 07:04 AM

Cisco Kid and Pancho. The only man I ever saw who could shoot a gun so well he could cut a mans braces and make his pants fall down


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Acme
Date: 26 Nov 17 - 10:03 AM

Bart and Bret Maverick may have ridden horses as the conveyance of the day, but they weren't cowboys. They were gamblers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Nov 17 - 11:14 AM

Strictly speaking, you're absolutely correct. So I'll go with Tom Tyler.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Nov 17 - 01:02 PM

Paladin from 'Have Gun Will Travel'. He was so cool. Not strictly a cowboy of course but I don't think any of the others mentioned were either!

Bit of trivia - Gene Rodenberry of 'Star Trek' fame won an award for writing one of the episodes and DeForest Kelly appeared in one.

I'm full of useless information.

:D tG


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 26 Nov 17 - 05:35 PM

Pat Brady, Roy Rogers' sidekick. He was funnier than Roy or Dale and he drove a Jeep instead of riding a horse. The Jeep's name was "Nellybelle".


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: EBarnacle
Date: 26 Nov 17 - 05:49 PM

I met Hopalong once when he did a publicity show up. Very nice man. He chatted with me and was pleased that I was a fan. Not as rich as Autry but definitely had a "good manner."


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Nov 17 - 05:51 PM

Tex Tucker, Four Feather Falls. Come ON!


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Nov 17 - 06:49 PM

Cowboys did not exit until the 1870's. It required the railroad to be built first. They did not drive cattle all the way to Chicago and NY before then.

The blood shed against Natives did not begin in earnest until after the Civil War. Experienced killers were abundant.

The war against the buffalo by shooting them from trains was to take the food source away from Indians. Buffalo skulls were piled over 100 feet high.

Any Cowboy that treated Natives as true human beings were good in my book.

There were few of those on TV


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 26 Nov 17 - 11:55 PM

The original trio on The Virginian, working cowboys all: The Virginian (Jamess Drury), Steve (Gary Clarke), and, especially devil-take-hindmost Trampas (Doug McClure). Drury and Clarke are still around in their mid-eighties. McClure, who was also a fine artist of cowboy scenes, died of cancer some years back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Acme
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 12:08 AM

The Virginian was a novel first, and Trampas was a bad guy. (More useless information for Dave.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 09:07 AM

cow boy


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 09:18 AM

We didn't have tv when I was a boy but listened to Riders of the Range and Guunsmoke on radio. However, I always thought Jack Elam in films and later on tv looked how I imagined a real cowboy looked, rather than the pretty boys.
RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Stu
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 09:52 AM

Any and all the cowboys in Deadwood.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 10:41 AM

Bronco Lane


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 10:44 AM

Stu I second third and fourth Deadwood characters although it was not cattle country.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: gillymor
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 11:13 AM

Right, Deadwood was a mining town but it was a great series with some world class
profanity. It's hero, Seth Bullock, and anti-hero, Al Swearingen were actual historical figures and were among my
favorite "TV Cowboys" but there were lots of memorable characters (and story lines) in that show.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 11:16 AM

Started to watch Godless last night. That has a lot of of promise.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 04:50 PM

Jack Elam - Toothy Thompson


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Nov 17 - 05:03 PM

Anyone want the small stand up card board promotion for Deadwood?
Gunsmoke's Chester and Doc were good eggs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 12:24 AM

The Rumpo Kid - "Carry on Cowboy"


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: meself
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 01:01 AM

Kwai Chang Kane.

As my father explained to my brother, who hadn't been anywhere near a TV for a couple of years: 'Kung Fu' was "about a Chinese monk who wanders the Old West, living a life of peace and meditation - and by the end of each episode, he's had to tear someone's lungs out.'


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Bugsy
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 01:07 AM

Tex Ritter, and the Range Rider.

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 04:50 AM

Real-life cowboy, wrangler, stunt man and rodeo star Ben Johnson could play good guys (Wagon Master) and bad guys (One-Eyed Jacks) with equal facility.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Mr Red
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 05:00 AM

A father of an ex-girlfriend used to answer any question about Cowboy movies with

"Tom Mix on the Trail of the Tattooed Maggot"


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 06:02 AM

Gun law had the real characters Matt Dillon and Doc Holliday.
Not historically accurate I suppose.
I read that someone just identified an old photo as showing both Billy the Kid and Pat Garret who later killed him. Worth millions.

Carry On Cowboy mentioned above. Not TV but had a great song.

All my favourites already mentioned, except A Man Called Shenandoah which had a version of Oh Shenandoah written for it. He was played by Robert Horton who also played Flint McCullough, the scout on Wagon Train mentioned above.
There was an Australian "Western" called Whiplash that also had a good song.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 09:49 AM

The Milky Bars are on me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Nov 17 - 01:44 PM

Keith - yeah... but... "Carry on Cowboy" has been on telly so often anyone under 40 would think it's always been a TV show...


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 03:42 AM

"the Man from Laramie"
and wasn't there one called "Sugarfoot" renamed Tenderfoot in the UK to avoid advertising/product placement.

the Two Ronnies often did spoofs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 03:18 PM

Ward Bond was good. i seem to remember he was in The Maltese Facon , as well as Wagon Train.

Charlie Wooster was the cook, I think. Little man with a beard. Very memorable, unlike the names of the english royal family.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 03:31 PM

This where it could get really weird regarding conspiracy theories about secret lives of the royals...

what if 'arry's ginger gene was passed down from... Fergie...!!!!!!?????


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Nov 17 - 03:34 PM

..now before any self appointed forum thread busy bodies get their knickers in a twist...

yes I know exactly what I did wrong there.. oops...


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 01 Dec 17 - 09:36 AM

Strange how white all these programmes were.

My understanding is that at least 25-30% of cowboys were black, but they seem to be totally absent from these old TV series. You get a few Hispanics, but that's about it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Dec 17 - 09:59 AM

Well, there was Blazing Saddles......


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Dec 17 - 10:08 AM

I am also told that the concertina and fiddle were the preferred instruments as they are much more portable than a guitar but you don't see many of those either!

Django unchained was good BTW.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Acme
Date: 01 Dec 17 - 10:15 AM

Lee Marvin as Monte Walsh, Kirk Douglas as Jack Burns in Lonely Are the Brave.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Dec 17 - 11:26 AM

If we are doing films too, all the John Ford Cavalry westerns.


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: pdq
Date: 01 Dec 17 - 11:28 AM

Herb Jeffries is best known for his monster hit song "Flamingo" from 1941, but from 1937-9 he made several low-budget Westerns aimed at Black audiences. Yes, he was a "singing cowboy" when Roy Rogers was still Leonard Sly.

In Herb Jeffries' movies both the good guys and the bad guys were Black.

He also qualifies as a TV Western cowboy (well, sorta) (ex Wiki):

             "Jeffries went on to make other films, starring in the title film role of Calypso Joe co-starring Angie Dickinson in Calypso Joe (1957). In 1968, Jeffries appeared in the long-running western TV series The Virginian playing a gunslinger who intimidated the town. In the 1970s he appeared on episodes of I Dream of Jeannie and Hawaii Five-0. He later directed and produced Mundo Depravados, a cult film starring his wife, Tempest Storm."


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: gillymor
Date: 01 Dec 17 - 11:44 AM

As for film stars Joel Mcrea and Randolph Scott having one last go-round as couple of aging cowpokes in "Ride the High Country", Karl Malden, Marlin Brando and Ben Johnson in "One Eyed Jacks" and John Wayne giving fine performances at the opposite ends of his career in "Stagecoach" and "True Grit".


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Subject: RE: BS: Favourite TV cowboy
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 01 Dec 17 - 05:47 PM

The discussion was on TV cowboys. All those mentioned featuring black protagonists were films.


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