BS: Damian Green

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 08:58 AM

For FUCK'S sake - DON'T FEED THE FUCKING TROLL!

Ignore the feeble-minded prick, continue discussing with others but ignore him. This kind of horse-shit, driven by him, is the reason so many other people have left the forum. He's pulling your pissers and, by constantly reacting to him, you're allowing him to play you.

Wise up, for fuck's sake!

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: bobad
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 10:18 AM

Don't you just hate it when someone interrupts the circle jerk.

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 10:25 AM

I refuse to use the word 'troll', and will not be shouted at to ignore anyone...
I will not be dictated to...
Likewise, I will not fall for and play any disruptive problematic forum member's abjectly idiotic power trip games..
I come here to interact on my own terms, as suits and amuses me....

So...

Keith - So why wouldn't most intelligent and sane observers agree a senior tory politician is by definition extremely ruthless,
and most probably morally corrupt...???

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 10:45 AM

"l will not be dictated to..."

I was offering strongly-worded advice, pfr. Only Max or the Mods have the power to 'dictate' here.

"Likewise, I will not fall for and play any disruptive problematic forum member's idiotic power-trip games"

Then you went right ahead and did it! Oh, the delicious irony!

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: bobad
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 10:49 AM

This kind of horse-shit, driven by him, is the reason so many other people have left the forum.

Everyone I know who has left says otherwise but when you're a member of a pack everyone who isn't is prey.

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 11:22 AM

BWS - Oh no I didn't......

I was informed by a high rank mod well over a year ago, of reasons why I should stop arguing with Keith.
Which I readily agreed to do, as I'd formed my own suspicions of why he behaves as he does.
I'd already told Keith he could never draw me into his wanky games...

Though nobody said I couldn't play my own with him...

Keith is by no means the only daft prick at mudcat... there's enough of us to fill endless BS threads...

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 12:57 PM

Rag,
You made an unfounded and incorrect accusation against another member of this forum, that is not a trivial matter.

Of course it is.
False accusations against members are made all the time. Just today and yesterday you gave false decriptions of what I said on the Brexit thread.

What I said about Dave was actually correct. He is anti-Green.
And, that is obvious from his posts justs as I said.

Pfr,
Keith - So why wouldn't most intelligent and sane observers agree a senior tory politician is by definition extremely ruthless,
and most probably morally corrupt...???

Most intelligent and sane observers do not share your disdain for Tories. That is why they keep getting elected. An intelligent sane observer should have observed that for themself .

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 01:06 PM

Keith - I'll leave response to your estimation of the sanity and intelligence of tory electorate to other mudcatters...

I'm off to finish cooking chicken and chips and watch a 'good' big budget half witted loud brash Hollywood movie...

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 01:08 PM

Enjoy.

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Raggytash
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 01:09 PM

I'll take your advice Backwoodsman, I've proposed such myself in the past.

Little billy no mates will find himself alone.

Oh dear, ,how sad, never mind to quote a well known Television programme.

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 02:04 PM

What I said about Dave was actually correct.

No it fucking wasn't. You said "Every post you have made here has been against Green." which is blatantly untrue. I have proved it to be false and you have spectacularly failed to come up with any examples. No matter how often you repeat the lie, Keith, it does not make it right. I started a thread recently about grammar. One thing I got out of it was that simplicity of language is always preferable. So, in the spirit of that I will keep in simple. Keith, you are a wanker. The true meaning of that is that your actions please no one but yourself. Also in the spirit of bevity. Fuck of with your nonsense.

Yes PFR, I have also had the same thing pointed out by a number of people and, yes, it is true.

BWM. Agreed, but when people tell blatant untruths it is difficult to sit back and do nothing. Maybe we should have some sort of code to show that these things have been noted but are being astutely ignored? Musket came up with a good phrase that could just be summed up with a couple of initials. TC. How about that?

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 02:08 PM

PFR - you're one of the Good Guys, I've no wish to get at loggerheads with you. Pax.

Now I'm out.

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 02:14 PM

DtG - I'll be belting a few songs out at Musket's club on Wednesday, I'll tell him he's still remembered with affection!

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Dec 17 - 04:53 PM

"I've no wish to get at loggerheads with you."

God no, John. That would be a turtle disaster!

"He's pulling your pissers"

Blimey, John, haven't heard that since I worked with the horny-handed sons of toil on Radcliffe Parks in 1972! A related pejorative of the time, used against those big girl's blouse blokes who fell a little short of being "men's men," was that they probably thought that their dicks were for pissing out of...

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 03:23 AM

Yeah, we still talk that ole-fashioned talk out here in the Backwoods, Steve! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 03:44 AM

Looks like the troll managed to divert this subject away from the awkward facts and turn it into a personal slanging match thus allowing Pervy Damien to ride off unscathed into the sunset
PITY
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 03:50 AM

BWM - No problems or hard feelings with anyone here...

life under tories is too deadly serious to take anything in hobby forums too serious...


emoticon test ?? [cheeky winky sticky out tongue]

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 04:05 AM

BBC news seems have have gone a bit quiet on Green....???

This is where the tories are experts at this kind of negative muck raking and smear campaigning...

If a Labour minister had been accused of having a sly wank and groping an assistant at work,
the tory press would be pressuring the Beeb to keep this slur story alive for months...

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 04:08 AM

"Looks like the troll managed to divert this subject away from the awkward facts and turn it into a personal slanging match thus allowing Pervy Damien to ride off unscathed into the sunset"

There really is only one way to deal with his ilk, and that is to ignore them completely? You will never change them or their opinions by getting into arguments with them. They don't come here to discuss, all they want is to cause disagreement, division and rancour. They get a massive hard-on from seeing the result of their efforts to achieve those things. When you destroy the arguments they put forward, they wriggle, they ignore your points, they twist your words, and they lie.

In short, they are worthless pieces of shit, undeserving of anyone's attention here.

Freeze them out.

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 04:36 AM

"Freeze them out."
Ah - but what will we do with all those shiny MEDALS and TROPHIES
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 04:38 AM

Jim,
Pervy Damien

Have you found some actual evidence against him Jim, or are you believing your own lies. (MI5 aware of the porn, the porn reported at the time. Just lies Jim.)

Dave,
What I said about Dave was actually correct.
No it fucking wasn't

If you are anti-Green it was correct, and you can not deny that fact.
If you think you hid that in your posts you are deluded.

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 04:46 AM

And there my case rests, M'Lud....

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 04:50 AM

Mine too, and you can not identify a single hole in it.
(Or can you? Will you state what I have got wrong?)

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 05:09 AM

"you can not identify a single hole in it."
"I WON"
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 08:25 AM

The Humpty Dumpty theory of language

Ring any bells?

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 09:31 AM

Laugh away, but the fact remains that none of you can find any fault in anything I have said about Green, while I have pointed out the absence of evidence for your claims about him including blatant lies from Steve and Jim.

Unable to answer what I say, the whole crowd of you now runs and hides.

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 10:24 AM

We're not laughing, Keith. Believe me, we're not laughing. No-one laughs at the deliberate self-immolation of a pathetic deludee. Not much longer now...

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: bobad
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 10:31 AM

But you can't let go, can you............lolol.

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 11:18 AM

Not much longer now...

Probably not.
Ake has been removed.
Teribus has been removed.

Soon there will be no-one here to challenge your views.
No diversity of opinion and no platform for anyone who disagrees with you people.

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 12:19 PM

You've still got boobs and Iains to keep you warm, you lucky lad!

I tend to think that people remove themselves by being very very silly...

Go to the joke threads, Keith, and give us the benefit of your massive sense of humour. Keep it clean now... Failing that, how's about a recipe or three? I'm doing Jamie Oliver's pork fillet and mash tonight. What vin rouge would you recommend to go with it?

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Iains
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 12:27 PM

"You've still got boobs and Iains to keep you warm, you lucky lad!"

Still being a fool Shaw.

Very shortly you will only have your packrats to play with.To quote your fellow rat (ad nauseam)

Different morality
Different language
Different planet

and in your case, no morals at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: bobad
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 12:28 PM

Soon there will be no-one here to challenge your views.

I'm sure the thought of that has them breathing hard just imagining how they can finally enjoy their ideological circle jerks without having to account for their lies and dissembling, why even the mods can join in without the worry of having to delete anyone's posts.

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 12:29 PM

And before you butt in, Dave, well done Morrisons for having the Nero d'Avola down to a fiver...and giving me not one but two five quid vouchers at once...and giving me 10p a litre off petrol twice... I'll raise a glass to Sir Ken tonight if I'm allowed to undo a bottle... The turkeys had better be good...

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 12:30 PM

Cor, don't they hover!

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: bobad
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 12:45 PM

Makes you uncomfortable does it Shaw?

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 12:48 PM

And another infestation of trolls appear on the horizon to defend the indefensible
Feed them and they'll only hang around for more Steve
I think you'll find Iain's infantile abuse about as high as it gets
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 12:57 PM

"Soon there will be "NOBODY HERE to challenge your views"
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 01:14 PM

Nah, to quote Denis Healey on what it was like to debate with Geoffrey Howe, it's like being savaged by a dead sheep. He also called Maggie Thatcher "virago intacta." Must remember that one!

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 03:13 PM

It was all down to me, Steve. Send me the reward when you get a minute :-) Jim and BWM are right about the troll thing you know though. I have had a road to Domestos moment and seen the light!

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 03:23 PM

What.. Ake and Tezzer exiled for ever...!!!???..

that's news to me...
We could do with a mudcat bulletin board to keep up to date with births deaths and banishments...

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 04:41 PM

Wanted to find a quick route to Surrey, Dave, but my bloody satnav couldn't find the road to damn Ascot...

You'll get your reward, Dave, once you persuade the management of Bude Morrisons to keep that big hole on the shelf marked "sorry, temporarily unavailable" well stocked with the Nero d'Avola. I challenged the wine aisle bloke the other day, saying that I bet he had crates of the stuff in the back room ready for when the price went back up to six quid. He looked guilty. Grr...

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Dec 17 - 04:57 PM

The Daily Mail wine bloke (I got a free copy In Waitrose, honest!) stated without fear or favour last week that the Coop £4.99 Nero d'Avola is the best value red wine available in Britain today. But did Bude Coop have it? Why, of course bloody not! As I'm oop north next week I'll have to see if I can pinpoint a decent-size Coop and pray that northerners don't read the Mail. Do they actually sell any copies north of Watford Gap?

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 12 Dec 17 - 04:09 AM

Labour MP Clive Lewis was accused of groping by another labour supporter at Conference.
She made a complaint and the Party began an investigation.

From his political opponents here there came no presumption of his guilt.
No-one called him "purvey" and no-one made up false facts about the case.
There seems to be a difference in morality between the two political groups, Hard Left and Centrist.

The Labour investigation has cleared him, which presumably means they accuse the lady of lying.

I predict that no-one here will challenge the finding.

Peston revealed on TV last night that the enquiry into Green will allow him to remain in post.
I doubt his opponents here will accept that for a moment.
A different morality, devoid of concepts of fairness and justice.

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Dec 17 - 04:48 AM

Keith
Two policemen were accused of being unreliable (by you and the accused) on no evidence whatever
You have no right to accuse others of of being unjust when you behave like that
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Dec 17 - 04:51 AM

By the way
Damien Green is a serial 'accused" in an organization where the use of porn and the harassment of women is commonplace
That is every reason to belive his guilt possible
Is his fellow Tory who accused him of harassment a liar along with the policemen you have accused of being - is the truth just confined to those at the very top of the heap?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Dec 17 - 05:08 AM

Jim, ignore the troll.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Iains
Date: 12 Dec 17 - 05:20 AM

Is this a new defintion of troll? Someone that dares to disagree with the mudrateers?

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Dec 17 - 05:22 AM

...and that one :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Dec 17 - 05:34 AM

Yeah Dave - had my fillip f fun this morning
Back to the real world
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Damian Green
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 12 Dec 17 - 06:23 AM

Jim,
Two policemen were accused of being unreliable (by you and the accused) on no evidence whatever

I said a defence in court would deem it unreliable because of the 9 year feud, and because it was not reported at the time.

That is every reason to belive his guilt possible

Of course it is possible, but it is unjust and unfair to just assume it either of Green or Lewis.

Lewis' accuser was a Party supporter too.
Green's accuser claimed that he "hit on her." That can just mean flirting, but if he did harass her that is shameful. The Labour woman was deemed a liar by the Labour enquiry.