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Earl Gray 19 Dec 99 - 04:32 PM
Norbert and Gesa 19 Dec 99 - 04:53 PM
19 Dec 99 - 04:55 PM
Philippa 19 Dec 99 - 05:22 PM
Alan of Australia 19 Dec 99 - 08:04 PM
Bob Bolton 19 Dec 99 - 10:01 PM
Chet W. 20 Dec 99 - 05:06 PM
lamarca 21 Dec 99 - 04:17 PM
John in Brisbane 21 Dec 99 - 09:34 PM
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Subject: Botany bay & Don't come again
From: Earl Gray
Date: 19 Dec 99 - 04:32 PM

Does anyone know the version of "Botany bay" from Noel McLaughlin? It's not listed in this database (though twenty million other versions are). It's chorus goes like: "Farewell to your bricks and mortar, farewell to your dirty lives, farewell to your gangways and your gang planks and to hell with your overtime; For the good ship Raggamuffin is laying at the quay, for to take old Pat with a shovel on his back to the shores of Botany bay". And does anyone know the lyrics from the song "Don't come again" the way the German band "Fiddler's Green" does it? The song starts off "The first time that I saw me love, it was at her ball" and the chorus goes like "And the bonny wee lass's answer was to no come again..." Any input would be much appreciated.


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Subject: Lyr Add: BOTANY BAY
From: Norbert and Gesa
Date: 19 Dec 99 - 04:53 PM

Hallo Earl Gray
Here are the lyrics to Botany Bay:

BOTANY BAY

CHORUS: Farewell to bricks and mortar.
Farewell to your dirty lies.
Farewell to your gangways and your gangplanks
And to hell with your overtime.
For the good ship Ragamuffin is lying at the Quay
For to take out Pat with a shovel on his back
To the shores of Botany Bay.

While on my way down to the quay where the ship at anchor lays
To command a gang of navvies that I was told to engage
I stopped in for to drink awhile before I go away
For to take a trip on an emigrant ship to the shores of Botany Bay.
CHORUS: Farewell to bricks and mortar...

Well the boss came up this morning, and he said "Well Pat you know
If you didn’t get those navvies out I'm afraid you’ll have to go "
So I asked him for my wages and demanded all my pay
And I told him straight, we would all emigrate to the shores of Botany Bay
CHORUS: Farewell to bricks and mortar...

And when I reach Australia I’ll go and search for gold
There’s plenty there for digging up, or so I have been told
Or else I’ll go back to my trade and a hundred bricks I’ll lay
Because I live for an eight hour shift to the shores of Botany Bay.
CHORUS: Farewell to bricks and mortar...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Botany bay & Don't come again
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Date: 19 Dec 99 - 04:55 PM

there's a version of Don't Come Again in the database Once I knew a Pretty Girl

Don't Come Again might also be either in Hugh Shileds "Shamrock, Rose and Thistle" or in the Sam Henry collection ,"Songs of the People"


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Subject: Lyr Add: DON'T COME AGAIN / THE REJECTED LOVER
From: Philippa
Date: 19 Dec 99 - 05:22 PM

DON'T COME AGAIN [the Rejected Lover]

Oh, the first place thatI saw my love it was at a ball
I looked on her, I gazed on her, oh, far above them all;
But aye she looked on me with scorn and disdain
And the bonnie wee lassie's answer was to no come again.
[repeat last line of each verse]

The next place that I saw my love it was at a wake,
I looked on her, I gazed on her, I thought my heart would break;
But aye she looked on me with scorn and disdain
and the bonny wee lassies's answer was to no come again.

It being in six months after, a little or above,
When Cupid shot his arrow and he wounded my trye love;
He wounded her severely; it caused her to complain
And she wrote to him a letter saning, "you might come again."

I wrote her back an answer all for to let her know
While life was in her body it's there I wouldnae go,
While life was in my body and while it does remain
I will aye mind the girl that said, "Don't come again."

Come all you pretty fair maids, a warning take by me.
Never slight a young man wherever they may be[sic],
For if you do you're sure to rue, they'll cause you to complain
And you'll aye mind the day you said, "Don't come again"
You will aye rue the day you said "Don't come again"

This is the version Eddie and Grace Butcher of Magilligan, Co. Derry sang. It has also been recorded by Andy Irvine. The text and music are published in hugh Shields, "Shamrock, Rose and Thistle", Belfast: Blackstaff Press, 1981.


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Subject: Lyr Add: SHORES OF BOTANY BAY
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 19 Dec 99 - 08:04 PM

G'day,
"The Shores Of Botany Bay" doesn't appear to be in the data base. Here's an "authentic" version.

SHORES OF BOTANY BAY

I'm on me way down to the quay where the good ship Nell does lay
To command a gang of navvies I was ordered to engage
And I thought I would call in for a while before I sailed away
To take a trip on an immigrant ship to the shores of Botany Bay.

Chorus
Farewell to your bricks and mortar farewell to your dirty lime
Farewell to your gangway and your gang plank and to hell with your overtime
For the good ship Ragamuffin is lying at the quay
For to take old Pat with a shovel on his back to the shores of Botany Bay.

The best years of our lives we spend at working on the docks
Building mighty wharves and quays of earth and ballast rocks
Our pensions keep our lives secure but I'll not rue the day
When I take a trip on an immigrant ship to the shores of Botany Bay.

The boss came up this morning and he said "Well, Pat, hello,
If you do not mix that mortar quick be sure you'll have to go."
Well of course he did insult me i demanded all me pay
And I told him straight I was gonna emigrate to the shores of Botany Bay.

And when I reach Australia I'll go and search for gold
There's plenty there for digging up or so I have been told
Or maybe I'll go back to me trade eight hundred bricks I'll lay
For an eight hour shift and an eight bob pay on the shores of Botany Bay.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Botany bay & Don't come again
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 19 Dec 99 - 10:01 PM

G'day All,

I'm not sure what an authentic version really is. (Won't get into that old line about "It is all folk music ... never seen no horse write a song ...")

Alan's version above includes the 2 traditional stanzas (#1 and #3)and chorus collected from 'Duke' Tritton, a traditional singer (~1885 - 1965), who spent most of his life doing rural work ... when we wasn't digging for gold. #4 was an additional verse that 'Duke' made up to make the song longer (he and a friend used to 'busk' in country towns when they were down on cash). Unfortunately Alan's version loses the typically Irish rhyme royal or internal rhyme in the last line. 'Duke's' original line was:
"In an eight hour day, for eight bob pay, on the shores of Botany Bay."

This was a line that was important to 'Duke', a staunch unionist, being a restatement of a stonemason's and bricklayer's union motto of the late 1800s. They demanded: "Eight hour's work, eight hour's play and eight hours sleep" ... achieved as a world-wide first in improved working conditions. (At the time, many workers in Britain were still working 12 or 14 hours a day, six day a week!)

#2 is a modern verse, which I first heard on a recording of the modern (1970s - to present ... with 48 changes in the line-up) "Bushwackers group ('Duke' was associated with the earlier Bushwhackers of the early/mid 1950s that defined the modern revival idea of a "Bush Band"..)

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Botany bay & Don't come again
From: Chet W.
Date: 20 Dec 99 - 05:06 PM

Don't come again ,with same words, also recorded by Paul Brady.

Chet


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Botany bay & Don't come again
From: lamarca
Date: 21 Dec 99 - 04:17 PM

Chet, I've been trying to remember where I heard "Don't Come Again", and think it must have been Paul Brady's version. Which album is it on?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Botany bay & Don't come again
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 21 Dec 99 - 09:34 PM

I won't get a chance to get a copy of Shanrock, Rose and Thistle until the New Year. If anyone has access to a scanner and can send me a .BMP or .tif scanned at 150 BPI my address is johninbrisbane@hotbot.com

I can then notate the tune and submit to the Mudcat Midi site.

Regards, John


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