BS: simple stuff we might not know

Subject: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 18 - 01:23 PM

Things hidden in plain sight that we should know before we die.
(too big a thread title but more honest)

Sir Richard Branson only recently learned the difference between gross and net. We assume people know the basics and its impossible to know what that might be. It might be called BIG trivia.

For example there might be someone out there who has heard Beethoven's 9th but never knew the words in it that were about "our brothers above the canopy of stars". It sounds cosmic and is.

Or that Pete Seeger was good friends with Eleanor Roosevelt.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Jan 18 - 04:31 PM

Above the line, in the music section,
is a thread on singer Betty Carter,
and one post goes into some detail about Miles Davis and Irene Davis-Oliver,
the mother of Davis's three older children.

I beg your indulgence while I post, on this thread,
a sort of epilogue, non-music post, related to the one above the line.

In 2015, the story was carried by news syndicates of the death, and planned memorial/interment, of a middle-aged man named Muhammad Abdullah Davis,
whose birthname was Miles Dewey Davis IV.
The news agency which entered this story for the others to select,
included the statements released by those who managed the legacy and legalities of Miles Davis, as stipulated in Davis's will after his death.

The news story did not disclose, one way or another, if any effort was attempted to communicate with Gregory Davis, full-blood brother to the deceased, for a statement of any sort.
Of course Miles Davis, the father, had died first, and those who followed the news of the famous musician's passing
and its aftermath,
knew how Davis had cut both Gregory Davis and Miles IV / Muhammad Abdullah Davis
out of his will,
and how the inheritance and legacy questions were only settled
after the survivors picked sides, lawyered up, and negotiated a compromise beyond the terms of the musician's will.

Betty Carter, with her own extended family and her own two adult sons, was still alive --
though nearing the end of her life --
when Miles Davis died and the legal wrangling and estrangements became public and newsworthy.
While Irene Davis-Oliver, whose three children were divided into two opposing sides by the death of their father,
spoke briefly but forthrightly of her support for her two sons
(her daughter was included in the will),
Betty Carter was discreetly quiet as regards the press.

What Betty Carter could have pointed out was that
she took in the three children, when they were really young,
and their mother, at Miles Davis's request,
while he embarked on his boxing matches, as it were, with heroin.
Gregory Davis, in the book of memoirs published after his father's death,
has described Betty Carter as a surrogate/alternate mother to him and to his family.

By 2015, and the death of the second son -- known in childhood as "Squeaky" -- of Miles Davis,
Betty Carter herself had been dead for over ten years.
Irene Davis-Oliver, the mother, is still alive by all accounts I can find,
and living with Alzheimer's disease on the West Coast,
where her daughter Cheryl and the other relatives chosen by Miles Davis
to manage his estate planning and his legacy,
have relocated (this includes a son from a later relationship, and a nephew).

In the meantime,
while imagining the reunion of son with father
beyond the threshold of that portal to the plane of existence,
in which physical bodily arms are not required in order to embrace each other,
I cannot help but imagine
the soul known in life by her professional name, Betty Carter,
welcoming Miles Davis's son as though he were her own.
Thanks for listening.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: DMcG
Date: 07 Jan 18 - 04:50 PM

How little we notice things that don't don't directly affect us.


For example, my left handed daughter tells me that when people attach a pen to a 'sign up' sheet with a string, it is almost always too short for left handlers.


Until my wife developed an arthritic hip, I was embarrassingly ignorant of how difficult many buildings can be to enter. Even if they have a ramp for wheelchairs - which may still don't - it is often very much further to walk if ou are on foot. Getting on and off trains can be difficult, and if there is a ramp it is usually far too steep. And so on.


And I was positively ancient when I realised how different art galleries are if you are colour blind.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: leeneia
Date: 07 Jan 18 - 05:39 PM

Simple stuff we might not know?

When hand sewing, put the leading end of the thread into the eye of the needle. There will be less tangling, possibly none.

You can make this mistake-proof by threading the needle before the length you will use is even cut.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jan 18 - 07:34 PM

the cosmic 9th

Did you know the archeological remains of the Zep Tepi are twice as old as the early Egyptians.

At its heart TV is a hypnosis machine that people watch from hypnosis furniture. Russian Television plans to capture 10% of American audiences for the 2020 elections.

By placing your tongue against your front teeth you will enhance dexterity and fine motor control.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 07 Jan 18 - 07:59 PM

If you are in a town on a gloomy day and need to head north(\south\west\east)
the satellite dishes will be pointing south.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: JennieG
Date: 07 Jan 18 - 08:02 PM

But not in the southern hemisphere.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Mr Red
Date: 08 Jan 18 - 04:34 AM

learned the difference between gross and net.
anyone told him about tare? And the gross in a net is 0, because it all falls through the little holes!

satellite dishes will be pointing south. Gotcha, I won't forget (in the Northern hemisphere). A friend used to say her satellite dish was pointing to Swindon. No amount of explanation would convince her about a mythical parabolic focus pointing up in the sky. Satellite was not clue enough. But she was right about Swindon, it is south of Cirencester.

hand sewing, put the leading end of the thread into the eye of the needle
I cut the thread first, so which is the leading edge? If I didn't the trailing edge isn't! Anyway I use one of those wire threaders. It is easier.

When checking tyre pressures at a service station: remove all caps first then start the pump. That way you are likely to get all tyres checked before the machine times-out. Particularly if you tow a caravan - it is a long way round and you can't always see the dial.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Michael
Date: 08 Jan 18 - 05:35 AM

In Kingston-upon-Hull, East Yorkshire, North England. Northern Hemisphere, satellite dishes point South East (just been and checked).

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 08 Jan 18 - 06:17 AM

Thanks Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: kendall
Date: 08 Jan 18 - 02:57 PM

The port side of a ship(Left) is so called because that is the side that connects with the pier. The starboard side, (right) is called starboard because that is where the "Steer boards" were attached. that was before the days of the rudder. the "Larboard side is so called because larboard, or Lee board is the opposite side of the ship..
Now you know.do you care?

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 08 Jan 18 - 03:25 PM

Similar to Branson's not knowing gross from net, many people don't know the difference between markup and profit margin.

If you buy something for $1.00 and sell it for $2.00, you're marking it up 100%, but you're not making 100% profit. You're making 50% profit. 50% of the $2.00 that goes into the cash register is profit, 50% is cost. The only way to make 100% profit is to pay nothing for what you're selling.

If you want to make 25% profit on an item, you don't mark it up 25%. That will only give you 20% profit. You mark it up 33.33%.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 18 - 07:32 PM

kendall I care having modeled ships. Today they can dock on either side. The red light goes on the right. right?

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: DaveRo
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 02:11 AM

Depends if, when modelling, you have the bows towards you. It's why mariners don't use left and right for the sides of a ship.

"If all three lights you see ahead, turn to Starboard, show your Red."

Americans may know "Red right returning" for the color of channel buoys - but it doesn't work in Europe.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Gurney
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 03:13 AM

I still remember when, as a child, I realised that the river Tems that I'd heard about and the river Thames that I'd read about were the same waterway. Clang.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Mr Red
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 03:18 AM

satellite dishes point South East (just been and checked)

did you check the satellite it was receiving from? Geostationary satellites hover over the equator. Hence the southish rule. Just like following the sun in the south - predicated on time of day.

markup and profit margin

And reducing that to markup and profit only confuses the issue. Profit margin is before costs. Profit is eaten by expenses.

and what is that rhyme that ends "..... if green is seen, take a chance & go between" ?

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 03:23 AM

The red light goes on the right. right?

A good way of remembering

Is there any red port wine left

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: DaveRo
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 03:40 AM

Most satellite dishes in the UK point to one of the Astra satellites at about 28° east (of south). So SSE. Mine is a Sky dish which now gets Freesat. Useful also when looking at pictures on property websites to see which side gets the sun.

Other satellites are anywhere from about 30°E to 30°W. Presumably at higher latitudes the scope is less.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 04:13 AM

Leeneia:

When hand sewing, put the leading end of the thread into the eye of the needle. There will be less tangling, possibly none.
You can make this mistake-proof by threading the needle before the length you will use is even cut.

An interesting tip, and one I didn't know.
How does it reduce tangling?
If it is because of the way the thread is 'laid up' (individual threads twisted and combined) does this mean that it depends on handedness?
So should a left-handed sewer thread the newly cut end to the needle?

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 04:20 AM

As I heard it (In Boy Scouts many decades ago). It started as 'Starboard & larboard' but due to mishearing shouted orders, larboard was re-named 'port'.
Remembering this, the left/right bit is easy. larboard was on the left, and has been renamed 'port'. (when facing foreward - toward the 'pointy end')

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: BobL
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 04:35 AM

When checking tyre pressures at a service station: remove all caps first

For someone like me, that'd be a sure-fire way to lose tyre caps.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: DaveRo
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 04:59 AM

Nigel Parsons wrote: ... toward the 'pointy end'

Unless it's a punt ;)

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Michael
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 05:25 AM

Then it's the 'punty end'?

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 06:19 AM

Surely the Punt has been replaced by the You-row ;)

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Hrothgar
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 06:52 AM

Gross margin is the selling price less the cost of the item sold.

Nett margin is what is left after expenses.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 07:03 AM

I thought the net margin was where the fish may still escape?

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Jackaroodave
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 07:11 AM

"I still remember when, as a child, I realised that the river Tems that I'd heard about and the river Thames that I'd read about were the same waterway. Clang."

I didn't realize until I was 11 that "suttle" and "subtle" were the same word. In my mind they had sliightly different meanings because of their different usage patterns in speech and text.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 07:26 AM

Surely 'suttle' is also to do with margins (between gross & tare weight)

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Senoufou
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 07:54 AM

When approaching a nervous animal of any species, do not look directly at it. Turn your head away and sit down. You then become non-confrontational, and it will relax.
Of course, if it's a lion or a bear, this may not be the best advice!

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Jackaroodave
Date: 09 Jan 18 - 12:07 PM

"Surely 'suttle' is also to do with margins (between gross & tare weight."

Well shoot, never knew that! Apparently there are superfine filaments connecting our ignorance as well as our knowledge.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Mr Red
Date: 11 Jan 18 - 05:48 AM

When checking tyre pressures at a service station: remove all caps first

For someone like me, that'd be a sure-fire way to lose tyre caps.

you only do it once! I put them in the dip near the speedo. Soon as I look at my speed I see the problem. I once put them on the flute near the windscreen wipers. When I finally realised - they had blown away.

Then it's the 'punty end'?

So right you don't even know! The rod that glass blowers use to hold a glass object, while making, is called a punty rod because it is pointed. This is not the hollow one that they use to form the bubble. When finishing the open end of (say) a goblet, they attach it to the punty rod then cut and smooth the open end. In fact really old goblets and wine glasses have a rough bottom where they severed the punty rod. These days a blow torch is used to smooth that off. There was a TV wordless documentary recently showing this (BBC4 not currently available, I'm afraid).

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: kendall
Date: 11 Jan 18 - 10:06 PM

Well, I'm surprised that anyone would respond to this pure trivia.
Actually, the red light goes on the port side. If you see the red light you must give way for that ship has the right of way. One way to remember is port is red (wine) starboard is green. if you see a ships green light it means you have the right of way.


That old saying "Under the weather" means sick below decks. "On the binnacle list" means the same.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 18 - 02:05 PM

I thought someone said the lights and right of way is opposite in Europe. Maybe its a dyslexic thing. I dunno. I hope the US Navy doesn't hire people like me, it could cause accidents.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Stanron
Date: 12 Jan 18 - 05:08 PM

I used to know all this by heart but now had to look it up to be sure. Navigation lights on a boat show green on the forward right quarter, red on the forward left quarter and white astern.

Lights on buoyed channels show red on the left and green on the right on entering a channnel, obviously the opposite on leaving.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: DaveRo
Date: 12 Jan 18 - 05:29 PM

kendall wrote: if you see a ships green light it means you have the right of way.

Sometimes.

Stanron wrote: Navigation lights on a boat show green on the forward right quarter, red on the forward left quarter and white astern.

among other lights.

Lights on buoyed channels show red on the left and green on the right on entering a channnel

in some parts of the world.

Heard the story about the US warship and the lighthouse?

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: JennieG
Date: 13 Jan 18 - 12:34 AM

Nigel - yes, during manufacture thread is twisted one way. If you run a length of thread between finger and thumb you can feel it's smoother one way than the other. Sewing against the twist leads to tangling and knotting, sewing with the twist is easier.

As one who has spent many an hour with needle and thread I know whereof I speak.

Threading is also helped by cutting a diagonal 'point' on the thread with fine sharp scissors first, not as difficult as it sounds!

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: DMcG
Date: 13 Jan 18 - 04:58 AM

Leeneia:

When hand sewing, put the leading end of the thread into the eye of the needle. There will be less tangling, possibly none.
You can make this mistake-proof by threading the needle before the length you will use is even cut.

Nigel:
An interesting tip, and one I didn't know.
How does it reduce tangling?
If it is because of the way the thread is 'laid up' (individual threads twisted and combined) does this mean that it depends on handedness?
So should a left-handed sewer thread the newly cut end to the needle?

I thought I might get a good clue on this from my left handed daughter who, amongst jobs in a crowded life, has spent time professionally as a hand embroiderer, including for Scandinavian royalty. Her somewhat uninformative answer? "I cut both ends and loop the thread to avoid tying a knot"

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Thompson
Date: 13 Jan 18 - 06:28 AM

When threading a needle, put the needle eye onto the thread, rather than the thread into the needle eye!

Sewers, is thread always wound onto the spool the same way? In other words, will the "leading edge" be the edge you cut or the edge that you hold as you unreel the thread?

A handy way to save work (and feel wonderfully tidy) when making beds is to put the duvet cover, sheet and one of the pillowcases into the remaining pillowcase in the set, and tuck it closed. That way, you have a couple of bundles of bed sets in your hot press, rather than fishing around for sheet, pillowcases and duvet cover at random.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: JennieG
Date: 13 Jan 18 - 07:14 PM

The "leading edge" is the tip of the thread as it comes off the spool, before you cut your piece of thread.

There are two main ways that sewing thread is wound onto spools, S twist and Z twist. Modern sewing machines usually have two spool pins, one vertical and one horizontal (my vintage machines have one vertical pin) and which pin you use depends on whether your thread is S or Z twist. Information half way down the page here .

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Thompson
Date: 14 Jan 18 - 02:58 AM

I just can't work sewing machines; a dressmaker friend has offered to show me my way around it, but I haven't got around to bringing my machine up to her. Can never work out how the tension works.

Hmm, more tips - well, fixing towel rails on the walls for hanging pots and their lids is a handy one; if you get those steel rails with S hooks, the pots can look pretty decorative.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Mr Red
Date: 14 Jan 18 - 05:17 AM

folding T-Shirts, Sweat shirts, Towels etc.

lay flat front down, fold tail over, fold sleeves in. Roll into a tube.
Store vertically in rucksack. Horizontally in draws & shelves. Removing from rucksack is easier. Ditto draws, shelves you may need to restrain the ones on top but because there is less surface area it is still easier than laying them flat one on top of each other.
Added bonus you can see more items in one vista - so choosing is easier, unless you are bad at choosing!

Hint it doesn't work so well on a draw full of red T-Shirts! (70 since you ask).

However I have a trick of: folding more than just the sleeve on one side and roll from the other. This puts any logo partially in view. Very useful because I like my logo to have some humour and some jokes are better than others in certain circumstances.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Mr Red
Date: 14 Jan 18 - 05:32 AM

AND...... I am on a roll here ............

Quite often I roll underclothes, T-Shirt and socks inside trousers (also in a roll). That way I can pull my dancing clothes out as a set, or my day clothes depending on purpose.

Neat? or Lazy? or Forward planning?

Also: worn T-Shirts (changed 2/3/4 per dance in the summer) are left inside out through wash/dry so I know which are used and any fading starts from the inside. Because I dry in the (eco-friendly) sun & air.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 14 Jan 18 - 02:35 PM

folding T-Shirts, Sweat shirts, Towels etc.
lay flat front down, fold tail over,

That gets me into a strange position on the floor ;)

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Jan 18 - 02:43 PM

Especially when you 'fold tail over' Nigel! :)

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Thompson
Date: 14 Jan 18 - 03:30 PM

Yeah, I roll underclothes, very soothing as a weekly ceremony. And I fold vests and shirts and the like flat. And trousers: fold them vertically so the crotch sticks out, then fold them along the line towards that.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: leeneia
Date: 14 Jan 18 - 08:41 PM

I use masking tape and a marker to identify food in plastic containers. Put the tape on the front of the box, not the top.

It's so nice to open the fridge and easily read what's in there.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Senoufou
Date: 15 Jan 18 - 03:45 AM

Always challenge any increased renewal quotes you get, for any kind of insurance (home, car, travel etc). It's worth phoning the company and telling them you've been on a comparison site. They always, always offer you a better deal.

This ridiculous palaver every year makes me fume. They're obviously counting on people not having the time or inclination to challenge or negotiate. But I nearly always get the premiums down to what they were originally. (Perhaps it's my very stern schoolteacher voice!)

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Thompson
Date: 15 Jan 18 - 05:50 AM

God, yes. One of the things I hate most about the capitalist way is the fact that companies want to strip you rather than serve you fairly.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Senoufou
Date: 15 Jan 18 - 06:18 AM

They certainly aren't our 'friends' are they Thompson?
Bloodsuckers!

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 15 Jan 18 - 06:39 AM

"Not all those who wander are lost"

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Mr Red
Date: 15 Jan 18 - 06:48 AM

But do they know where they are?

Lost assumes concern, whereas some may wander to discover. Which means they are gained!

Take a ball of string with you!

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jan 18 - 09:46 AM

I have a hard time setting my computer to link to Bluetooth devices.
It must be something basic I am doing wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Thompson
Date: 17 Jan 18 - 02:52 AM

Bluetooth is weird. I have a Bluetooth speaker I sometimes use when teaching. It won't connect to the computer when there's a roomful of students with mobile phones - presumably its little brain gets confused.

Cycling 6 miles 5 days a week can lower you chance of contracting cancer by 45% and of heart disease by 41%, according to
this study of a quarter of a million commuters over five years by Glasgow University.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: mg
Date: 17 Jan 18 - 04:33 PM

i can't make my cellphone quit locking itself all the time.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Jan 18 - 06:17 PM

Bluetooth is so flamin' clunky, yet it's beautiful when it works. It. Lets me watch footie on me pad when Mrs Steve is watching hospital soaps and it lets me listen to sublime classical music on YouTube when she's gone to bed. One of me Christmas presents was a classy pair of Sony Bluetooth cordless headphones. Also, I can speak to people on me phone in the car without touching anything at all.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Thompson
Date: 18 Jan 18 - 09:09 AM

Oh yeah, headphones (and earbuds). What do yiz keep them in? I mostly keep mine in flat boxes that I got with sets of bicycle lights designed for giving away - not everyone accepts to boxes with the lights, so I have a few plastic click-shut boxes to spare.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: mg
Date: 18 Jan 18 - 03:46 PM

how about keeping them in those baconkeepers like tuppreware. They are absolutely fantastic..can get them for $2 sometimes...great for bacon, but also all sorts of meats, vegetables, cheese etc...they will reform a chaotic refrigerator.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Jan 18 - 04:43 PM

things I didn't know for ages:

recently heard that when John Lennon was born,
he was the sole survivor of a pair of twins.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: JennieG
Date: 19 Jan 18 - 05:09 PM

So was Elvis Presley - his twin brother was stillborn.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: frogprince
Date: 19 Jan 18 - 09:05 PM

If they were twins, how do they know if it was really Elvis that lived ?

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: JennieG
Date: 20 Jan 18 - 05:56 AM

You're right, you know! Perhaps Elvis never even entered the building, let alone left it?

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Mr Red
Date: 20 Jan 18 - 06:14 AM

Clue's in the name ..........

Elvis is an anagram of lives

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 18 - 07:45 AM

Its kinda common.

1 in 8 of us absorbed a twin while our mothers were pregnant.
At the end of 9 months only 1 in 80 are delivered twins.

There are traces sometimes of an absorbed twin. A parchment like flat patch on the skin or an external bean like formation. Sometimes the remains are internal and sometimes there is no trace.

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: lefthanded guitar
Date: 21 Jan 18 - 02:36 AM

I just today went to an engaging tour and lecture in an historical farm house, about life in the 1700s. Much of the lecture took place in the kitchen. And I learned something I didn t know about butter. If a cow eats hay, the butter is white. If a cow eats grass the butter is yellow- because grass -believe it or not -has a lot of fat.

Grass ! Grass, like the grass on your lawn, is fatty! Does this give me reason to ignore my nutritionist 's advice to eat more salads?

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Senoufou
Date: 21 Jan 18 - 04:31 AM

I believe the grass contains carbohydrate which is converted by the cow into fat as it travels along the rumen. I don't think it contains fat per se.
(We have three dairy herds of Holsteins in our village and know the farmer and his wife well.)

Subject: RE: BS: simple stuff we might not know
From: Mr Red
Date: 21 Jan 18 - 06:47 AM

There are traces sometimes of an absorbed twin.

Can result in chimeric people, & plays havoc with (so called) DNA fingerprinting.
I believe they also get described as "Mosaic" because the DNA differs from body part to body part.

And because I collect 4 leaf clover**, the smell of milk at certain times of the year smells remarkably like the clover when I open the bus ticket (eg) that they get put in. GF lives on a dairy farm.

** Guinness World Record stands at 110,000 - if I continue for 100 years I may beat that!