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BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)

Steve Shaw 22 Jan 21 - 01:02 PM
Raggytash 22 Jan 21 - 12:13 PM
Steve Shaw 22 Jan 21 - 06:29 AM
Steve Shaw 22 Jan 21 - 04:05 AM
Raggytash 21 Jan 21 - 08:39 PM
Jon Freeman 20 Jan 21 - 07:14 AM
Senoufou 20 Jan 21 - 06:51 AM
Steve Shaw 20 Jan 21 - 06:29 AM
Jon Freeman 20 Jan 21 - 03:26 AM
Senoufou 19 Jan 21 - 11:28 AM
Raggytash 19 Jan 21 - 08:49 AM
Senoufou 19 Jan 21 - 08:27 AM
Steve Shaw 19 Jan 21 - 08:12 AM
Raggytash 19 Jan 21 - 07:45 AM
Steve Shaw 18 Jan 21 - 05:44 PM
Donuel 18 Jan 21 - 11:27 AM
Raggytash 18 Jan 21 - 11:13 AM
Donuel 18 Jan 21 - 10:52 AM
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Steve Shaw 14 Jan 21 - 06:36 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jan 21 - 01:02 PM

I kind of agree, but Leicester are bloody good at the moment.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 22 Jan 21 - 12:13 PM

Looking at the table and recent results my money would be on Man City to gain the title this year unless Liverpool can turn their form round.

I don't think either United or Leicester have what it takes to win the premiership this year.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jan 21 - 06:29 AM

Two comments from the 800+ in the Guardian following the match report:

Liverpool have a problem with a more park-the-bus side. Atletico was the template. If you cut off opportunities for Liverpool to counter quickly, then you are in a good place as Liverpool don’t seem to know how to breakdown a team that has regrouped in the box.

Reply to that:

This is the best comment of the night. Not difficult to work them out really. Additionally, no VVD and they’re impotent on corners. Teams now know they score late, they keep the concentration for the full game.

Sez it all really. Put ten or eleven behind the ball all match, pack your box and even a Pele, Messi and Best front three would have trouble. It makes for boring football. I blame Liverpool for not being able to find an answer, but I blame the Man Us and the Burnleys and any team that is run by Mourinho of this world for boring the arse off us. Pack the box and hope for the counter that just might get you that one goal (even if it's a non-penalty as last night). One thing you can say about Klopp's time at Liverpool is that he's given us positive, seat-of-the-pants footie. Even when they're winning 3-0 with five minutes to go, they are still attacking. Ultimately it's the fans who pay all those billions, so he knows that it's the least we deserve.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jan 21 - 04:05 AM

We've been sussed. Low block, pack the box, park the bus. The team are losing heart. A couple of seasons ago we blitzed the opposition in the first 15 or 20 minutes, got goals and forced the other team to come out and play. We have got to get an early goal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 21 Jan 21 - 08:39 PM

Another black night for Liverpool, that's just 3 points from the last possible 15.

Last year I had a dream that Burnley would beat Liverpool and placed a small bet on it. Seems I did it a year too soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 20 Jan 21 - 07:14 AM

I was an odd one. Shrewsbury born but I think living in North Wales when I first took an interest in football. The Norwich connection comes from my father who's family have a long history in the city. I think in childhood, there was perhaps a sense of pride in being different to the rest.

I think most football support around the Llandudno area went to the big Manchester and Liverpool Clubs. I can't think of any I knew off hand that supported Wrexham who were the only N Wales league side.

There was someone my age and at one time (family moved to Llandudno Junction) from my village and primary school who got to be on Wrexham's books though. He didn't quite make it but I think played a couple of games for the first team.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 20 Jan 21 - 06:51 AM

You're so right Steve. Nearly everyone here in Norfolk identifies with the team and many wear the colours (yellow and green) when out shopping. It's a cultural focus.
Our song "On the ball City!" is apparently the oldest in history.
(I love hearing the last line sung in Broad Norfolk : "Hurrah! We've scored a goool!"
A house on the corner of our small village-in-the-sticks has a flagpole in the garden, and when Norwich City are playing they hoist the Canaries flag.
Husband often embarrasses me in the supermarket when he spots someone wearing a City scarf or cap. He yells " Come on you Yellows!" but they always laugh and give him the thumbs up.
Oh I do hope we go back up, even if only temporarily!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 20 Jan 21 - 06:29 AM

I think it's great that the Canaries are doing so well that they'll be coming back up (barring disasters). I spent half my life as an urbanite, cosseted by the abundance of big club football teams all around. When I lived up north I was in easy reach of Man U, Man City, Bolton Wanderers (then a force to be reckoned with), Bury, Rochdale, Oldham Athletic, Preston North End, Burnley, Blackburn Rovers and others I may have forgotten, and the Merseyside clubs weren't much further away either. A positive cornucopia. Here in the Westcountry, west of Bristol (which takes over two hours for us to get to, and they don't even have Premier League teams in any case), it's lamentable that all we have are Exeter City and Plymouth Argyle, both permanently languishing in lower divisions and both over an hour away from me. A good top-divisions football club can be the heart and soul of a community (and to hell with the naysayers!) and you should treasure the Canaries!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 20 Jan 21 - 03:26 AM

I don’t think that Norwich had the money last time and didn’t want to gamble on big spends. I’m not sure it would be any different if we go up again.

Probably the biggest name Norwich had and within my memory (in fact I was much keener then) was Martin Peters. Presumably past his West Ham and Spurs best but a great asset to Norwich. You will probably still hear people say “what we need is another Martin Peters” – not too expensive but with a wealth of experience and skill but they may also debate as to whether you can find such a player now?


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Jan 21 - 11:28 AM

Ah Raggytash, I meant if/when they go up, they should maintain their position once there by buying some star players. I know they ain't there yet!
Husband has bought online some very fancy face masks in Canary colours. And he swathes himself in his Norwich City scarf for our trip to the supermarket. Looks a bit odd with his flowing African robes, but rather nice just the same! "Come on you Yellows!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Jan 21 - 08:49 AM

Careful Senofou, you're in danger of upsetting your beloved. Norwich are in the championship with a realistic prospect of being promoted to the premiership.

If they were in League one they would have been relegated!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Jan 21 - 08:27 AM

According to husband, Norwich City has now 50 points and is top of their League. If this continues they might 'go up' again to Premier League. But then they might 'go down' again, which they did last time.
He says they should buy some better players to maintain their place in League One.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Jan 21 - 08:12 AM

When he said "your glowing PMs" perhaps he meant our glowing prime ministers, y'know, Thatcher, Cameron, May, Johnson... After all, compared to the president he's got, they're all glowing!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Jan 21 - 07:45 AM

Can I please make it clear I do not send PM's to Donuel, or at least I do not recall ever sending one. (I have been asked)


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Jan 21 - 05:44 PM

You have nothing sensible to say on this topic, Donuel, so you know the advice.

Liverpool's front three are looking blunt. Unfortunately, because we've lost Matip, Virgil and Joe Gomez, we've had to push our key midfielders, Hendo and Fab, into more defensive roles. Trent and Robbo can no longer be as adventurous with their runs and crosses from the flanks. The front three are off-key anyway, but they are also being starved of the inspired supply from midfield and those flanks. We need Thiago to stay fit and bed in quickly. United's alleged key three front men, Marcus, Martial and Bruno, were all extremely unimpressive yesterday. A decent defence can handle the opposition's bus-parking and hopeful occasional counter-attacks, and there was a lot of bus-parking going on. Not a great game, was it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Jan 21 - 11:27 AM

Raggytash please follow every post I make and mark with your musk. I am amused by the aroma of your incredible insight. What is religion to you is fan-aticism to me. Thank you for all your glowing PMs. Please post more. It will give you a sense of accomplishment much like an enema.
It was not their best outing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Jan 21 - 11:13 AM

Once again Donuel you demonstrate your complete ignorance of the game of football.

In the UK it is almost a religion to some people

It may be better if you didn't post about a subject you clearly do not understand.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Jan 21 - 10:52 AM

0 to 0 is good for rest and relaxation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 18 Jan 21 - 10:31 AM

Hi Raggy

Liverpool did not walk all over Man United.

Far From it !!!

It was a game that never got going . Neither side deserved to win .
Pool Looked the better at the beginning,, but at the e end United   
could and should have done.







Poor game by these "Top Boys.

We meet again shortly. !!!!!

Cheers Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 16 Jan 21 - 09:55 AM

I have a feeling that Liverpool will walk over United tomorrow, I think they have a point to prove.

I hope I am wrong but I'm not convinced that United are anything like to finished article.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 06:36 AM

City are the biggest threat now in m'humble. They are back on song and Pep is paying a lot more attention to defence. The game on Sunday is crucial for Liverpool, and they are NOT on song! I still think that Man U are a long way from the finished article, as with Spurs. Heavy reliance on your two or three best players can work for a while, but if one of 'em goes off the boil or gets injured... You wouldn't rate Man U's chances if Bruno was out for a couple of months, would you? But Ole is doing a grand job and seems to be getting Pogba purring. It's gotta be either Man U or Liverpool this season: no bloody oil club, and no way, José!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 14 Jan 21 - 06:06 AM

Hi Raggy

I agree we need acouple more top players.

It is nice to take the ride.

Minde you it's keeping the City and Liverpool members of our family quiet. !!!!!!

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 13 Jan 21 - 10:18 AM

Hi MikeL, I doubt very much that United can maintain the form that has seen them climb to the top of the table. However it does my heart good to see them there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 13 Jan 21 - 09:25 AM

Hi Raggy.

Last night Man United pushed Liverpool off the top Of the League.

They beat Burnley in a dour game . United wasted several chances until Pogba finished a superb goat from a Rashford cross.

United dominated the game preventing Burnley any chance of even getting
a of getting a shot in.

I hope we can do the same to Liver pool at the weekend.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 12 Jan 21 - 05:56 PM

Back where we belong!! Yeah!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 12 Jan 21 - 06:46 AM

hi Steve et al

Yes it was a great game. Both teams went for it and made a game that was great to watch.

We now have drawn Liverpool .....will the sparks fly ? or will they make a boring defensive game. We will see .....

Cheers

Mike......Just going for our "Jabs"

Makes a change to be Top of' the pile.....but as our Ages are
Eighty Five ( me ) And Eighty two ( Er indoors ) We got in quite quickly and at our own GP. Nice and convenient etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jan 21 - 08:00 PM

Don't want to go too hyper about this, but the FA Cup third round game at Villa tonight was a bloody wonderful moment for sport. Villa had to put out a total youth team after their first team, and most of the management, were floored by coronavirus issues. Klopp was respectful in putting out a really strong lineup. Milner, Gino, Hendo, Mo, Fab, Bobby, Thiago, Shaq, Minamino and Sadio were all on show. The young Villa lads (a few of them were so young that their dads had to drop them off at the ground, as many hadn't passed their driving tests yet) put in a helluva great first-half performance. Louie Barry, aged 17, humbled Liverpool with a superb equaliser just before half-time. How good was it to see the ref walking back to the circle after that goal, grinning at Louie like a bloody Cheshire Cat! The Liverpool greats really had to get their act together after the break to beat, but not humble, the Villa lads, and they did it (eventually) in a really good, friendly spirit (though, as ever, taking no prisoners). So respectful. What a brilliant night for sport. Yet we could easily be facing another footie lockdown...Hard times of old England... :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Jan 21 - 08:43 PM

There's a lovely tribute to Colin Bell in the Guardian, written by Simon Hattenstone (clearly a fan of King Colin, but that's footy for ya!). Very googlable...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Jan 21 - 04:30 PM

And now the great Colin Bell has died... :-(

Anyone remember the Bell-Waldron restaurant in Whitefield? I never dined there, but my mum knew Colin...

Colin Waldron, of Burnley FC fame, eventually opened a bookies in Nelson. None of yer millions a month in those days...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jan 21 - 05:27 PM

And Gerry...Aw, bugger... :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 11:45 AM

Sad to hear about Tommy Docherty the other day :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 09:58 AM

Hi Raggy

I couldn't agree more !!!! Pogba does nothing but cause trouble .

I know he can play IF HE Wants TO. But usually he just lumbers around.

He is not anything near to what he should be for his money!!!!!

Cheers

Mike.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 08:26 AM

i meant defoe


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 08:13 AM

i predicted the blades would be releghated last year , i was a year earlyk, unless they can get a striker, maybe they should approach rangers about the wee fellow


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 07:14 AM

He's another Ballotelli, innit. Fergie would have offloaded him aeons ago. Liverpool's recent success is built around a whole-team ethos. No-one is irreplaceable but everyone is invaluable. Man U have got to get away from pinning their hopes on one or two (Bruno, for example). Spurs are currently making the same mistake with Son and Kane. The decline of Barca is solely because the ethic is whatever you do, get it to Messi...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: G-Force
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 07:09 AM

I, for my sins, support Sheffield United. I think it's a real shame that a club who should never have been relegated (yah booh West Ham!), and who took so long to haul themselves back up from the lower divisions, and who looked so promising last season, are right back down the bottom again. I guess the other teams have just worked out how to play them. And they desperately need a decent goalscorer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 07:02 AM

I've said this before MikeL2 and I'll say it again.

Pogba has to go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 02 Jan 21 - 06:28 AM

HI Steve And Raggy

Yes we have hit the T0P..... Phew....

It is something that we Man U supporters have been waiting for....too   Long.

I have watched both Liverpool and United recently and I think that United have improved

United have improved quite a lot while Liverpool have dropped off
somewhat.

I know we have a way to go but they can give it a real go.

I think there is some problems in the dressing room with some of their best players are involved.

Long way to go yet but I wait expectively......

All the best.

Cheers

Mike


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 06:32 PM

I'm from Radcliffe, which is a lot nearer to Bury, Bolton, Oldham and Rochdale than to Old Trafford, and in any case it's a tribal thing in me family. Man U won't win the league because they are far too immature as a team, they rely far too much on Pogba, Marcus and Bruno, and Ole can't seem to get the consistent best out of the likes of Martial. They're good but not good enough, not yet...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 01 Jan 21 - 05:58 PM

So only goal difference between Liverpool and Manchester United!

Who'd have thought it!!

I am not suggesting that I expect United to win the Premiership but I think it might put the wind up a few Scousers and those turncoats from Manchester who support the team.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 06:35 PM

Well many a pundit has said the same. But the seven today has wiped out Liverpool's less than ideal goal difference. Top goal scoring, best goal diff, top of the Christmas table. Be very afraid, Premier League...

And I'll tell you summat else. Every one of those seven goals was a gem. Deny that at your peril!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: G-Force
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 05:42 PM

How often does a team score seven and ship seven in the same season?


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 02:03 PM

That is, Palace nil, Liverpool seven. I need say no more!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 01:20 PM

7.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 01:20 PM

"anyway mr clever clogs,"

In what way am I being Mr Clever Clogs.

I said I couldn't find any reference to him playing in goal for England.

I cannot find any reference to him playing in goal for Preston either.

I didn't say he hadn't I said I could find no reference to it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 12:57 PM

no i cannot find it at the momemt, i read it somewhere maybe its wrong ,anyway mr clever clogs, the point is he was versatile and played in different positions in an international career


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: G-Force
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 09:18 AM

there is only ONE United, the other are the like of Cambridge, Rotherham, Carlisle and other similar lessor teams

Oh, come on, Manchester United are better than that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 07:05 AM

Can you provide any links to information about Tom Finney playing in goal for England.

Given that he wasn't a very tall man I would have thought that other outfield players would have been chosen before him.

I simply cannot find any reference to him playing in goal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 10:09 PM

Inotice that todays football has less tackling and less dribbling .
i believe that Finney played once as goalkeeper i think the regular goalkeeper had been injured.
Anyone care to guess why Raggytash is like a bear with a sore head


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 05:26 PM

Anyone care to guess why he is shouting?


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