BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 10:54 AM

We didn’t get to many games but I think our late one was at Molinieux. A big roar from the crowd as we entered the stadium which we assumed was a goal but, no, Trevor Hockey had got sent off. He didn’t play that many games for Norwich and memory is a bit foggy but I seem to remember him as being a bit of a liability.

Mind you, I think Norwich’s regular centre half could pick up a few bookings. Though I liked him and he gave many years good service for the club both as a player and later on the staff. Last I heard of him, reported on local tv, he was in a nursing home with Alzheimers. I guess it can strike anyone but he was another of the players where the impact of frequent heading of the ball was questioned. Apparently before the illness struck, he would pride himself on being able to listen to the football scores read out and recite them all accurately.

Only local interest I suppose but he was popular and a one time “hero” of mine though if I could have emulated anyone, it would have been Kevin Keelan, a goalkeeper with quick reactions and capable of quite instinctive saves.

Unlike Steve’s (jesting) “I could have been someone” (to which a Pogues line could come to mind…), I don’t think I’d have gone anywhere in sport. I did play in goal in primary school and 1st and 2nd year secondary school but lost confidence after heavy defeats against both Caernarfon and Aberconwy. I might have tried to pick up again when we moved to Kent but the school was one season hockey and one rugby union (neither of which I liked at the time, never got on with hockey and being left handed or then saw a point in rugby) but would never have made the grade, plus most goalies seem to be over six foot and I never grew that big.

Cricket. I suppose in my dreams, I could have batted like Viv Richards or bowled like Michael Holding – WI had loads of talented players when I started to take an interest in test cricket in the 70s but, realistically, the only thing I was reasonably able at was catching a ball. Even then, not that marvellous – I’ve seen plenty where I can wonder just how in the hell the fielder even got to the ball – others where I may feel that Boycott’s granny as well as me couldn’t possibly have made such a hash of things.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 07:41 AM

In me student days on one occasion we drove in my mate's Standard Eight from London to Reading to see them play Bury. We got stuck in an almighty traffic jam just outside the ground. With windows wound down we heard three almighty cheers and one weaker cheer from inside the ground. We got in ten minutes late to find that the score was already Reading 3 Bury 1. There was only one other goal in the game, a Reading penalty. Buggeration.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 07:14 AM

I hope you are wrong Mike, The first match I ever saw live was Bolton V Preston in about 1965, a 0-0 draw.

I fact I've only ever been to three live matches and have never seen a goal scored live. Two 0-0's and I left the other ... Oxford V somebody at half time when the score was 0-0 !!

Great result for United last night, Chelsea were played off the pitch.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 19 Feb 19 - 06:40 AM

Hi Raggy

I think that NOTLOB will disappear from the League. They are in a terrible state and have huge money problems.

It is a great shame that one of the best teams almost since since the formation of the league are in this horrible state.

I remember the Nat Lofthouse days. What a great footballer and model for many players but most clould not reach his standard.

I hope I am wrong.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Feb 19 - 05:13 PM

Aye, Notlob it always was. Nat Lofthouse was their glory boy, though not with Man U supporters after he'd bundled their goalie into the net then got away with it. As for Preston, well they had the Preston Plumber, the greatest of the greats, the sublime Tom Finney. And when I was fourteen we played Preston Catholic College and I got Thornleigh's second highest score of the cricket season. AND I ran one of their lads out with a spectacular throw at one stump, a direct hit, from the square leg boundary. I got a mention in Thornleigh College school magazine for my exploits in that match. My life's been downhill ever since. If only my mum had forced me to wear my ugly NHS specs, I'd have been up there with Botham, no messing.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 17 Feb 19 - 04:21 PM

Well .............. as a closet Preston supporter (my Dad was born in Rook Street, the same street that the ground is on) I kept quiet about Preston's humiliation of Norwich.

As for Notlob (you have to be Lancastrian to get that straight away) they look like they're are going to be relegated ..... again.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 17 Feb 19 - 03:21 PM

There's early days and early days, Sen. Even if Norwich were to lose all remaining games and Ipswich were to win every one of theirs, Norwich would still finish above Ipswich.

I'm afraid both Ipswich and Bolton are involved in the battle for safety down the bottom. A good run of form could still see either achieve this but (and maybe it's just me) I'd be particularly doubtful about Ipswich achieving this.

I think the Norwich result was a great recovery from the 3-0 loss against Preston mid week. Leeds still have a game in hand and could go top but Norwich are still in there.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 16 Feb 19 - 03:56 PM

Well, the Trotters are currently 23rd Steve. But it's still early days.

It's amusing that Ipswich are the Canaries' old enemies, and we're at the very top while they're right at the bottom.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Feb 19 - 03:34 PM

Phooey. I went to school in Bolton and the best bloody chippie this side of the old panhandle was situated just opposite Burnden Park, close to the bus stop where I many times caught the last 36 to Radcliffe after getting well pissed in The Trotters, the pub next door to the ground. I'd love to see the Trooters back in the top division where they truly belong.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 16 Feb 19 - 12:09 PM

Ha! Norwich are top of their league with 63 points, and Ipswich are at the very bottom. We scored 4 goals today against Bolton. Hope this continues. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 14 Feb 19 - 09:37 AM

hi Steve

I have finally ( I Hope ) got sorted out with my phones, Broadband etc.

So I was able to watch the whole match on my big TV.

You are right , the first half looked grim for Sours but the second half was completely different. Spurs took the game to Dortmund and attacked them having pressed them into making mistakes.

They were worthy of the score and they don't appear to have missed "Arry" or or Deli the belly flop merchant!!

I am licking my wounds from United's performance on Tuesday. We knew we hadn't a hope of winning the Euro Championship, but going out like that !!! without a whimper was more than disappointing.

We'l have to see how we go on against Chelsea in the FA Cup.

Cheers

Mike

Cheers

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Feb 19 - 05:52 PM

Well I watched the first half of the Spurs match and feared the worst. I had to be sociable in the second half so could only glimpse occasionally on me silenced iPad. I was delighted with Spurs' second half performance. I've always enjoyed watching Spurs! Go, Poch!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 13 Feb 19 - 09:37 AM

Hi Steve

I have have only just been able to use broadband and my landline since last Tuesday so have not been able to get any football on tv.

I was at Old Trafford last night and saw United overcome by a much more superior team. We really knew that this had to come sometime. Most of my United pals were prepared for it. We did not think they would be able to stand up to the top teams in Europe.

Philosophically perhaps last night will be a guide to our weaknesses.

Chelsea next then then Liverpool ( I think). We will have to play better than what I saw last night.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Feb 19 - 08:20 PM

Ole's bubble has finally burst. Man U were ramshackle against an undistinguished PSG (apart from Thiago Silva and Di Maria). You'd better hope that Martial and Lingard are OK, because Mata has shot his bolt and Sanchez has never even had a bolt... and Pogba, grow up and behave yourself!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 10 Feb 19 - 12:06 PM

HA!! Norwich 3 Ipswich Town 0 !!!
Great result! Husband doing a male version of the Mapouka in his study.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 10 Feb 19 - 11:46 AM

Like you Jon,I reckon 'banter' and a bit of piss-taking are quite all right and can be funny.

Usually Norwich supporters are reasonably well-behaved and manageable.
There are only a few extra Police officers stationed around Carrow Road when there's a big match on.

But I believe some clubs have notoriously rumbustious supporters and a few who are downright nasty, which spoils the Game and brings it into disrepute.

Mocking opposing fans about the tragic death of a young man in an air accident is nothing short of evil though. Ignorant louts.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 10 Feb 19 - 09:02 AM

Things I can't understand either Sen. A couple that stick in my mind were.

A trip to Millwall back when we lived in Kent and in the bad old days. The guy probably was an idiot being dressed in green and yellow (or at least my parents had none of us with anything identifiable) and the scene was a massive crowd chasing one person with police on horseback coming in to split things up.

Another was a Stoke supporter who seemed to thing it quite clever to nick the bobble hat from my probably about 7 tear old brother's head...


On the other hand (they won), Spurs vs Norwich league cup final where we bumped into a lot of Spurs fans on our way home was very friendly. Also and later (I didn't get to this one but other family did), Sunderland vs Norwich actually led to "The Friendship Trophy"

It can all be a bit of a mixed bag, I suppose. Once in a blue moon, I used to like going to a particular pub in a Welsh village to watch a football match. You could guarantee a lot of "piss taking" from supporters of different clubs but could be sure everything was in good fun.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 10 Feb 19 - 08:21 AM

I see that the Police have been involved with some Southampton supporters who thought it amusing to make aeroplane gestures and taunts toward the Cardiff supporters in mockery of the death of Emiliano Sala.
I can't understand their mentality at all.
How terribly cruel and absolutely disgusting.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 08 Feb 19 - 11:23 PM

Yes, if the Canaries move up, my husband will be at Carrow Road at every opportunity to watch the top teams play against us.

Still a fair way to go Sen and say the top 10 in the Championship are pretty competitive. Sheffield United (playing one more game) took pole position last evening, being 3 goals up against Villa but Villa pulled 3 goals back in the last 8 minutes (plus extra time).

If they do go up, the next challenge would be to stay up. Since I moved to Norfolk I think they went up under Nigel Worthington (to be ended by a disastrous last game when Norwich gave up against Fulham) and under Paul Lambert.

It seems a long while since they had better stability up there. Their best seasons were in the early days of the Premiership. They did finish 3rd one year and the next, become the first English team to beat Bayern Munich on their ground in the UEFA cup but then things went wrong (and there were a few questions over the then chairman, Robert Chase and his spending policy/the clubs finances). I doubt we’ll see those days again.

As said before, on off following with me but I've often at least kept an eye on things.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Feb 19 - 06:08 PM

Klopp had nothing to do with clearing the snow from the box. Out of his control and not urged by him. You can look it up.   

Pep was right about getting the best goal difference possible. Attempts in that direction would make for much better football.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 07 Feb 19 - 10:59 AM

Hi

Don't know why I posted " Etiad" ...I must be still messed up by losing my broadband .....of course I should have put Goodison.

Doh

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 07 Feb 19 - 09:28 AM

Hi

I have not been able to watch this week's matches due to a problem with my Broadband. I think the comments on refereeing are fairly common.

In my experience in playing Rugby ( both Union and League),and Cricket
Any bad decisions that tend to go to the top sides. In RU certainly their was quite a lot of politics involved as the refs were pressured to favour the top teams.

Regarding the current football situation the top 6 teams are in a tight scramble for the top positions . Any poor decisions become more important.

I was able to get to the Etiad to watch Man City comfortably beat Everton to enable them to ( temporarly ???) take top spot. Liverpool
have a game in hand to re-take the top.

I wonder what Clopp will try to take an advantage....don't think he will get away with clearing the pitch !!!!

Looking forward to both the rugby and football matches coming up. There are some mouthwatering ones as the European Championship matches start after the recent brake.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Feb 19 - 06:16 PM

The linesman was watching the byline tussle involving Lallana and a couple of West Ham players in case of a tight throw-in call, so he missed the offside. Later on, Salah was called offside when he was almost through on goal when he was clearly onside. It just happens, though I hear that Liverpool are accused of gaining more than they lose over a period. Dunno. Liverpool were nervy again, and they need to keep Lallana, Keita and Matip on tbe bench and get Hendo and Gini in the midfield. Let's hope the Ox gets a game or three this season and that Joe Gomez gets well soon. West Ham did park the bus brilliantly for long stretches. A draw seemed fair in the end.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 04 Feb 19 - 04:54 PM

A mediocre display from Liverpool tonight. West Ham (a team I hate, they ruined my 9th Birthday and I've never forgiven them) could have been 3-0 up at half time.

I say 3-0 because Liverpool's goal was offside by a country mile.

If they continue to play like that they've not a cat in hell chance of winning the title and you may not believe this Steve I would like them to.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Feb 19 - 02:34 PM

Hi Sen

Yes they have announced what you said. I an interview just now the head of the recovery Company has said that their is a difficult task ahead of them to recover the passengers and the investigate what happened.

Terrible thing and my heat goes out to all his relatives and friends.

Regards

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 04 Feb 19 - 11:15 AM

I see today they have found the submerged fuselage of the small aeroplane which Emiliano Sala was using to fly to Wales. They have observed one body in it.
Terribly tragic, his poor family. RIP Emiliano.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Feb 19 - 10:02 AM

Hi

Leicester 0 V Man 1 United

Another win for Ole and his push for the top. United won ugly after scoring early on the decided to sit on the lead and trust to create break-away goals. Unfortunately Leicester did the same until almost the end. Still , this is a good win after all Liverpool could only draw with them last week and L.Pool were at home and we were away.

I watched City 3-0 but not a good performance from City.

Liver Liverpool I think they are getting nervous ..... what Fergie used to call " Itchy Bum Time. !!!

I'm already for tonight ti watch Liverpool v West Ham = on paper an easy game for pool but there have been so many weird results recently you just can't tell.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Feb 19 - 09:45 AM

hi Sen

" I suppose the tickets will be much more expensive :

Yes it is the way of the World. Especially ( but not completely ), the clubs pay high prices for the players etc.

Regards mike.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 03 Feb 19 - 03:15 PM

Hello there Mike!
Yes, if the Canaries move up, my husband will be at Carrow Road at every opportunity to watch the top teams play against us.
Trouble is, I suppose the tickets will be much more expensive :(

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 03 Feb 19 - 06:13 AM

Hi Nigel

Watched most of the games in the rugby Union 5 Nations Cup.

Wales were great and never gave up after being 16 - nil down. They are going to be hard to beat.

The Scotland game was not convincing as they allowed Italy to get three late tries.

The England v Ireland game was great as England pulled off a great win against the favourites to win the title.

But a great start ball which promises to be an interesting season.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 03 Feb 19 - 06:04 AM

Hi sen

Great result for Norwich. I was watching The Rugby and Football ( not at the same time ) but I did keep my eye open on Norwich. Their win was like a " 6 Pointer " . by beating Leeds.!! Keeping this form up will mean we will be able to play you next Season.

I am getting ready to watch Both Manchester teams which will take pretty well all afternoon.

Hope we get the results that Norwich had.

Regards


Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 02 Feb 19 - 02:09 PM

And Vrancec has just scored again! 3 - 0 !!!! Whoo hoo!!
(He's shouting his head off and cheering. The cats are looking rather startled.)

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 02 Feb 19 - 02:07 PM

Husband has just hollered through from the study that Norwich City are winning 2 - 0 against Leeds, with only 15 mins to go! Pukki has scored, and also Vrancec.
Excellent news! We're still hopeful Norwich may go up at the end of the season, but there's a long way to go yet of course.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Feb 19 - 04:56 PM

A clear foul in the penalty area is a stonewall penalty, Mike. There is nothing in the laws of the game that says the bar is set higher for fouls inside the box. And a very clear foul it was. As for fouling the last man In a clear goal-scoring opportunity, the key word is "opportunity," not "dead cert.".

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 01 Feb 19 - 02:29 PM

hi Steve

I would'nt describe it as " Stone Wall Penalty and certainly not a sending off. The player had lost control of the ball and it was not certain that he would have recovered enough to have scored.

Penalty yes red card not for me.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Jan 19 - 06:04 PM

A stonewall penalty denied and a stonewall sending-off denied. But a draw seemed fair once those two outrages are taken off the table.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 31 Jan 19 - 02:41 PM

Hi

Liverpool 1 - Leicester 1'

I watched the full game on TV. Almost like the night before ( Man City ) Liverpool shot out of their traps and scored very early on. After that Liverpool appeared to ease up. The game de-generated into a boring game with poor passing and little or no pace, surprisingly, especially for Liverpool. Their defence appeared disorganised. And just before the interval Leicester in the shape of harry McGuire stole a goal from a hesitant Liverpool defence.

Second half was Liverpool trying to pierce a stubborn Leicester defence. Leicester made several breaks and created some havoc in the liverpool team. They more than earned their draw.

Liverpool had a penalty turned down which seemed to have demoralised them.

They still have a 5 point lead but will have to play better than this to win the League.

Cheers

Mike

PS Chelsea got flattened 4-0 to make the chase for top 4 interesting.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 30 Jan 19 - 09:25 AM

hi Steve

I know that your " tribal" moans are you just getting us going.

I do not know why Ole picked that side. Perhaps he's trying to give some of the younger players a chance for him to see what they can do.

It nearly rebounded on him as Some blunders were made by a couple of his introductions.

Burnley have always had a place in my heart. I used to love the Jimmy Mc.ilroy era. As you say....top man both on and off the field.

We have had a number of battles with recent teams and they have

Become one of our bogie teams.

I watched the City game....They scored in 25 seconds and after that they played a lot of rubbish.

So there you are it's wide open for you. I will be watching tonight. I am sure they will win if they play anything like their top form.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Jan 19 - 07:44 PM

Howdydoo, Mike. I've been enjoying watching Man U's revival under Ole (see, I'm not as tribal as you thought!), but he made some strange picks tonight. Why did he leave Herrera out? And Lukaku is a definite bench man in my book. I felt a bit sorry for Burnley, me boyhood team (hail Jimmy Mac, one of the greatest men ever to grace a football pitch), as Man U did one of Fergie's late escape acts (as Ole would know!). Anyway, cheers to Rafa for the favour tonight, and let's hope Liverpool can do the job tomorrow. I have BT Sport Mobile and I'll be watching!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 29 Jan 19 - 09:48 AM

hi

Oh dear we have drawn Chelsea away in the FA Cup.....just out luck.
Still we have to beat any team to be able to lift the Trophy.

we've done it 12 times before so we should have a go at them.

Cheers Mike

PS Chelsea are the current holders.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 28 Jan 19 - 09:26 AM

Hi

I have been away on a surprise week-end organised as a late Xmas present by my sons and our niece.

They paid for a long week-end for me and my wife to stay in London. They had somehow managed to get tickets for us to go to the Arsenal v Man United FA Cup game. Also we got tickets to see Crystal Palace v Tottenham.

The man united game was a cracker when 2 teams with probably the two worst defences in the league attacked each other all through the game.

United came through 1 - 3 to complete Ole's run of wins to 8. !!

Brilliant to watch.

The other game was not very good to watch except that the underdogs won.

Hoping united can continue their run tomorrow when the meet Burnly in the league. We don't have a great record against them but I hope Ole's march for the top carries on.

SEN I see that Noewich are holding their own. Pity that Leeds won tho.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 23 Jan 19 - 02:52 PM

hi sen & Kwberox

The pesron in volved is indeed a footballer - He is Argentine who has been playing in France ...Nantes.

Only last week he was transferred to Cardiff City.

He was flying from France to Cardiff in a light aircraft with just the pilot aboard.

The plane went off air over the Channel Islands and has not been located since.

There are many organisations involved in the search but as yet there is no sign.

The head of the rescue fleet has said that nobody could survive in the circumstances but they will continue to search.

Very sad

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 23 Jan 19 - 04:03 AM

Emiliano Sala (Cardiff City player). His plane went down in the English Channel and only floating debris has been found.
No chance of survival in the sea at this time of year. Terribly sad.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: keberoxu
Date: 22 Jan 19 - 09:35 PM

Someone has been lost in an aeroplane over the sea ??

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 21 Jan 19 - 02:51 PM

Hi

The chase for the top places in the Premiere League gets hotter.

I watched most of the games this week-end and noticed the strain especially on the top teams. Liverpool had a few shocks in their game with Crystal Palace, After a struggle they eventually won 4-3.
Salah managed to score a couple but once again was seen to dive in the penalty area. If he is not careful he will get a reputation and have the referees watching him closely.

Man City were out of form in a tame first half but rallied to win, Huddersfield 0 Man City 3.

Spurs were given a huge fright by lowly Fulham only managing to
scramble home with the last move of the game Spurs 2 Fulham 1.
Chelsea lost to a improved Arsenal Arsenal 2 Chelsea 0.

Man united only just held off a Brighton chase. Man United 2 Brighton 1.

It looks to me that there will be 2 competitions One for top place by Liverpool and Man City.

There is a chase for the next 2 places contested ever more closely by Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man United.

I find it difficult to forecast the third and fourth places.

It's going to be interesting. !!!!!

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 15 Jan 19 - 02:44 PM

Hi Steve

Yes I was a bit surprised at City's approach to the situation when it was open to them to improve their goal difference when they had the chance.

My wife who thought that City scoring nine against Burton was " nasty " and maybe yesterday they were being nice to Wolves. lol

I agree that the interest went out of the game. I watched Murder in Paradise to pacify my good lady.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Jan 19 - 08:51 PM

Along with the Guardian reporter, I did wonder why City didn't go for the jugular and extend their superior goal difference. Who knows, it could be crucial at the end of the season. As things stand they are just two better than Liverpool, who, in recent weeks, wiped out a massive goal-difference deficit. Just one own-goal after half-time? Feeble!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Jan 19 - 06:01 PM

Match ruined by an early idiotic foul fully deserving of a red card. The atmosphere was that of a graveyard just before half-time. I gave up at half-time and watched Morecambe and Wise repeats.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Jan 19 - 02:37 PM

I'll be watching. I see that the Guardian gave de Gea 10/10, and they're stingy buggers!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 14 Jan 19 - 02:31 PM

Hi

Yes United under Ole has awakened them to start to play as we know Man United should play.

Recently there have been two great games to watch for excitement and entertainment. Man City v Liverpool was a cracker and last night United v Spurs was a good runner up to that game.

Yes we owe much to David de Geah who had an absolute blinder. However Spurs showed that United's defence is very weak and needs stenghtening as soon as possible. However in the first half United could ( should ) have scored three or four goals but some wayward finishing and good keeping by Spurs' goalkeeper limiting them to that brilliant goal by Lingard + Pogba's superb pass finished by Rashford.

Just of to watch City v Wolves ( on TV . Wolves are capable of causing an upset but I think City will win what could be a good game.

Cheers

Mike