BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Dec 20 - 07:05 AM

Can you provide any links to information about Tom Finney playing in goal for England.

Given that he wasn't a very tall man I would have thought that other outfield players would have been chosen before him.

I simply cannot find any reference to him playing in goal.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 10:09 PM

Inotice that todays football has less tackling and less dribbling .
i believe that Finney played once as goalkeeper i think the regular goalkeeper had been injured.
Anyone care to guess why Raggytash is like a bear with a sore head

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 05:26 PM

Anyone care to guess why he is shouting?

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 04:55 PM

WHAT I NOTICE WAS THE AMOUNT OF DRIBBLING IN THE 1950S COMPARED TO TODAY

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 04:26 PM

Oh G force there is only ONE United, the other are the like of Cambridge, Rotherham, Carlisle and other similar lessor teams

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: G-Force
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 01:49 PM

Which one is 'United'?

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 18 Dec 20 - 09:50 AM

hi

Iwatched Man United beat Sheffield United last night. Good to watch United swing the ball around ,,,,,,,but oh Dear ,,,,,,,,what about that defence ....?????

it needs better than this.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 06:12 PM

When I was 13 I was picked for the Thornleigh under-14 cricket team. One day we played Preston Catholic College at their school. I scored 29, the second-highest score of the season, and I was eventually out LBW (it was an unjust decision in m'humble, delivered by their sports teacher) after they'd used ten different bowlers against me. Also in the match I ran one of their lads out with a mighty throw from the square leg boundary, hitting the one stump directly. We won. It got me a mention in the annual school magazine. It was possibly the greatest day of my life.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 02:05 PM

My Father who was born in Preston always spoke very highly of Sir Tom Finney.

I believe Tom played Left Wing, Inside Left, Centre Forward, Inside Right and Right Wing for England.

I have to say I was unaware he had ever played Goalkeeper and to date have been unable to find any reference to this.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 09:22 AM

Tom Finney was slightly before my time, but my dad always said that he was the greatest. My boyhood hero was Jimmy McIlroy. Tribalism prohibits me from considering anyone who played for Man U. :-) As for the greatest of all, pick from Pele, Maradona and Messi. In m'humble.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 06:13 AM

hi Sandman I Agree whith your commemts re. Tom Finny ect.

I think Georgie Best is the best I have seen.

Pity about the drinking....but hey ho....that's life.

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 06:08 AM

hi stev. congrats on the Spurs game. Best Game I have watches for some time.

Clop realy upset Mourino Ha Ha .

WE Play today in what apears th be an easy game........ but with United these days Who Knows...???

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 05:46 AM

the preston plumber tom finney played centre forward left wing right wing and goalkeeper for england,
then we havent mentioned pele or george best

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Dec 20 - 01:23 AM

Maradonna was not the bes, could he play in different positions. Tom Finney could, then we hqve to consider messi, stan matthews,ronaldo jimmy greaves bobby charlton

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Dec 20 - 07:38 PM

Well what a match at Anfield. Edge of seat stuff from start to finish, with Bobby Firmino polishing off Spurs with a devastating header. Huge!

I got this on Amazon Prime by the way, on a 30-day free trial. There are no catches. And I got the free trial even though I had one last year!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Nov 20 - 10:21 AM

Well I suppose that the outcome of that game was just about fair. A few years ago the penalty would never have been given. It was as soft as you like - AND there was no clear and obvious error. A few years ago Mo would not have been given offside. And the ref gave a Brighton player a yellow card for a foul that clearly wasn't a foul. Liverpool went on to score from the ensuing free kick but the goal was correctly judged to have been offside. Technically, all the decisions went the right way in the end. But the technology is seriously getting in the way of the game, and the ref didn't exactly help. I want a game played by human beings refereed by a human being.

And I fully agree with Jurgen about the Wednesday night-Saturday morning issue. It isn't fair on the club and it's dangerous for the players. The broadcasters are calling all the shots and the well-being of the the players comes a poor second.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 28 Nov 20 - 08:54 AM

hi steve

long time no see

Yes the football World will miss him

Just watching Liverpool v Brighton.

Brighton will rue their missed chances . including penalty .

They are suffering somewhat lately.

Man U very poor at the moment but have made a couple of good perform ences lately.

Liverpool Just scored.

Stay safe

Mike


Cheers

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Nov 20 - 12:16 PM

Maradona gone. Damn. He was a rogue but he was the best. :-(

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 08 Oct 20 - 02:31 PM

And coverage of tonight's 'friendly' match is about to start:

What time is England v Wales kick-off?
England v Wales kicks off at 8pm on Thursday, October 8.

Is England v Wales on TV?
Yes, the game will be screened live on S4C. Coverage begins at 7.30pm.

It will also be broadcast live on ITV1. Coverage on that channel also starts 30 minutes before kick-off.

Two channels as the commentating will be available in two languages.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 08 Oct 20 - 11:30 AM

High G Force

Thanks for opening this topic.

As a longtime Man United supporter I am still astonished by the by the players' lack of dedication etc.

I was also amazed by Liverpool's performance....if it were possible they were worse !!!!.

Serious changes will have to be made. Liverpool have the squad to put them back to to to.

I fear that Man United will be going the other way......
I don't think the transfers were good enough to make much improvement.

No doubt that Steve will have his view. .....

cheers

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: G-Force
Date: 06 Oct 20 - 09:10 AM

This thread has gone a bit quiet lately. But with Manchester United and Liverpool both losing by five goal margins, I would have thought someone would have something to say.

Not me though, I'm a lifelong Sheffield United supporter, I'm keeping quiet.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 15 Aug 20 - 02:42 PM

"Parking the bus" is a team putting ALL their players in a defensive roll. Not, or rarely, venturing out of their own half, not trying to score a goal, merely preventing the opposing team from scoring.

Boring as hell if you have to suffer watching such a match.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 15 Aug 20 - 10:54 AM

HA clean sheet is s0mething like my Bank Account....or Mother Hubbards' cupboard.   

It means the goalkeeper must keep them or it is time to go//.....David De Gea ????? I think so.

Cheers Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 15 Aug 20 - 09:15 AM

Playing with the sole aim of not conceding a goal.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: keberoxu
Date: 15 Aug 20 - 09:06 AM

I shouldn't ask, but ...

what is "parking the bus" ?

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Aug 20 - 04:38 AM

A really good goalie can help to achieve a clean sheet, as can parking the bus. Hope this helps. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Aug 20 - 03:50 PM

Looked up my own question.
US calls it something else:
"shutout"

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Aug 20 - 03:37 PM

My husband was extremely jealous of the young security guard in the supermarket this morning, who was wearing an anti-Covid mask with the Norwich City FC logo printed on it. (We were masked in boring old blue things bought in a multi-pack) So I asked the chap where he'd bought it, and he was kind enough to give me the website of a Norwich lady who sews them. I might try and buy a few, but they're the washable sort, and I think chuck-away ones are safer.
The supermarket is right beside the Norwich City stadium, and it was very sad to see it all deserted.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Aug 20 - 03:24 PM

What are "clean sheets" ??

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 01 Jul 20 - 06:35 AM

Hi

Watched Man United with Brighton last night.
What a change in two days. They played with purpose and power. This was rewarded by a (0 - 3 result away from home.

It could ( should ) have been more when Oly removed his best players and it was to save them for more difficult tasks to come.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 28 Jun 20 - 06:28 AM

hi

I watched Man United play Norwich yesterday.

It was the worst performance I have ever seen from United.....and I've seen some c***p in my time. It was like watching paint dry.

Olly changed his side with 8 changes and they played as if they were strangers.

But.....after scoring a lucky goal on the last minute, they won and now go into the semi finals of the FA Cup !!!!! Norwich battled hard after having man sent off. They wuz robbed.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 26 Jun 20 - 01:31 PM

Not sour grapes at all Steve, Liverpool have played well and deserved to be champions.

However in the time the premiership has been running there have been 7 winners.

Liverpool          1
Blackburn          1
Leicester          1
Arsenal            3
Man City          4
Chelsea            5
Manchester United 13

These are the facts. In the seasons where United didn't win it they were second on 6 occasions and third on 3 occasions.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Jun 20 - 11:17 AM

Sour grapes will get you nowhere. Klopp may not quite be God, aka Shankly, but he sure is seated at the right hand of the father...

Of all the campaigns since the Premier League started, Liverpool's this season has been the finest of them all. They've got some amazing home-grown players on the up and up as well. The future is bright. And I think future threats to our supremacy will come from Chelski, not Citeh. If the latter are banned from the Champions League, I can't see De Bruyne staying. Or Sterling. Or Pep even. And their defence, let's face it, needs urgent attention.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 26 Jun 20 - 07:27 AM

So well done to Liverpool for winning the premiership. Good luck in the chase for the highest points total.

Ye gods, that was difficult.


Just remember though you have won it once. Now to prove you're a great team try and do what United did and win it 5 times this decade and 6 times the next decade and a couple of times in the decade after that.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 23 Jun 20 - 05:51 AM

Hi Steve

I agree with you about Ancelotti. He has created a well organised unit. Does'nt produce much skill or excitement but .....hey... that's Football

I watched City tear apart a shattered Burnley due to off the field stupidity.

Nuff said

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Jun 20 - 09:55 AM

Ancelotti is a wily old bugger and he had his defence well organised. In a good few matches before the lockdown, Liverpool were stymied by several teams parking the bus. I thought Liverpool warmed to the task more in the second half and were moving the ball around more in the way we're used to seeing, but all too often the long balls were inaccurate and the final pass wasn't hitting its target. They looked blunt up front. They definitely missed the Salah threat and the Robbo surges up the flank. One or two heart-attack defensive moments too. I'm not worrying. Go, Burnley!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 22 Jun 20 - 07:01 AM

Hi Steve

I don't like the fake crowd noises.

I atched the Liverpool " Darby" Everton decided tohave all the side back in defence. It made a farce as Liverpool just could not break through. In fact Everton nearly scored as they hit the post with Keeper well beaten.

It's not all over yet !!!!!!!!

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Jun 20 - 06:33 AM

I don't much care for the fake crowd noises...

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 21 Jun 20 - 06:12 AM

Hi I watched the game and must agree that The Blades got robbed by a lack of co-ordination between the Referee and the operator of the technology.

I also have watched several other games and some strange decisions have been made.

I include the decisions made in " my Team's recent battle with Spurs.

Some strange decisions against both sides and I think United got the better deals.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: G-Force
Date: 19 Jun 20 - 05:06 AM

So nothing's changed. Sheffield United are still getting rubbish decisions against them.

Having been denied a goal earlier in the season because VAR intervened so say the player's big toe may have been a millimeter offside, now another one when the ball was miles over the line but VAR said nothing.

Could be important and expensive at the end of the season.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 20 Apr 20 - 11:32 AM

PS Should have said more caps.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 20 Apr 20 - 11:30 AM

hi Steve

I'm back in "town" after a few weeks in Menorca.
Sad to see that " Norm who bites yer leg has left us.

Great player to watch and surely he should have played for his Country.

He helped Leeds to be top
boys for a spell

Have been watching one or two " Classic Matches in the past.

Hope we can get down to the " real football once again.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Apr 20 - 01:43 PM

Sad news about bites-yer-legs. That was a great scrap with Franny Lee, innit, and Osgood didn't really appreciate having his sideboards grabbed... RIP, Norman!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Mar 20 - 04:57 PM

Don't just say bread, say Hovis.

Don't just say God, say Shankly...

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Mar 20 - 04:55 PM

What God? Get off yer knees!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Mar 20 - 02:00 PM

Do you think God would like us accepting Jose Mourinho making a fortune, from a betting company, out of declaring himself the "Special One"? My #poem, from WalkaboutsVerse, "Getting to know God"

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Mar 20 - 02:36 PM

Nice piece in the Guardian by Klopp. Your opinion of him will soar when you read it. Funny how so many of the greatest managers in English football are good socialists. Shankly, Cloughie, Fergie, now Jurgen...

And I do think that any decent football fan would fully sympathise with Liverpool FC when you consider the brilliant season they've had and the great entertainment they've given us. But nobody's crowing and nobody's bitter, which is how it should be. Just for once, there something happening a bit more important than footie.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 28 Mar 20 - 01:42 PM

There is one bright bit about this bloody virus.

At least Liverpool will be denied an outright premiership title!

Having lost three of their last four games who knows how the rest of the season would have panned out!!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 16 Mar 20 - 12:14 PM

Hi Dave
Don't know what they will do but my view is that the current situation and league positions should stand.

I know that many clubs will not agree with me.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Mar 20 - 07:07 AM

What will happen to league positions if the rest of the season is cancelled? :-(