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BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)

Dave the Gnome 13 Jul 21 - 04:32 AM
Jos 13 Jul 21 - 04:49 AM
Steve Shaw 13 Jul 21 - 05:34 AM
Steve Shaw 13 Jul 21 - 05:37 AM
Donuel 13 Jul 21 - 06:38 AM
Backwoodsman 13 Jul 21 - 11:52 AM
Nigel Parsons 15 Jul 21 - 11:43 AM
Stilly River Sage 15 Jul 21 - 01:00 PM
keberoxu 21 Jul 21 - 03:36 PM
robomatic 22 Jul 21 - 04:59 PM
Senoufou 23 Jul 21 - 05:54 AM
Jos 23 Jul 21 - 06:07 AM
Raggytash 23 Jul 21 - 06:51 AM
Senoufou 23 Jul 21 - 07:47 AM
fat B****rd 23 Jul 21 - 03:42 PM
peteglasgow 23 Jul 21 - 07:13 PM
keberoxu 23 Jul 21 - 10:43 PM
Allan Conn 24 Jul 21 - 02:11 AM
Jon Freeman 24 Jul 21 - 01:56 PM
Senoufou 24 Jul 21 - 03:15 PM
keberoxu 26 Jul 21 - 06:28 PM
keberoxu 30 Jul 21 - 01:41 PM
Senoufou 30 Jul 21 - 02:58 PM
keberoxu 31 Jul 21 - 08:34 PM
Steve Shaw 14 Aug 21 - 09:03 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Jul 21 - 04:32 AM

Oh, don't, Eliza! It's not English food :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jos
Date: 13 Jul 21 - 04:49 AM

I thought chicken tikka masala was now the British national dish (though in this case, being English should be what matters).


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Jul 21 - 05:34 AM

I thought it was spag bol, Jos, with the sauce dumped in a heap on top of a pile of overcooked spaghetti, accompanied by a little dish of "Parmesan" that had been grated the year before...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Jul 21 - 05:37 AM

You'll Never Walk Alone is allegedly an American show tune, but, as all Liverpool supporters know, it's actually a scouser folk song.

Grain of truth...? ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jul 21 - 06:38 AM

I'll bite, which is it, British or American? Hammerstein wants to know.

mmm chicken Tiki Marsala.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Jul 21 - 11:52 AM

“mmm chicken Tiki Marsala.”

Satan’s vomit. Not in the same league as Saag Gosht..


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 15 Jul 21 - 11:43 AM

At least one racist clearly identified, a supposed 'comedian' Andrew Lawrence: Metro, Here


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Jul 21 - 01:00 PM

Let's stop with the comments about racists. I imagine it's a problem with football/soccer (even over here we heard about some hateful stuff directed at players recently in the England/Italy game), but your link is to something else. The off topic posts were cleared.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Jul 21 - 03:36 PM

While the stalwarts on this thread
contemplate the heights of well-known football clubs,
it pleases me to see that
Bruce Arena, coaching in the Boston, Massachusetts area,
retains a sense of humor about the New England Revolution FC.

"We look like the Three Stooges at times,
but those are things we can correct . . .
We're not the worst team in the league [MLS] at the moment.
I think we'll be fine."
(16 July 2021)

Update:
Watch the trio of Gustavo Bou, Carlos Gil, and Adam Buksa --
and Teal Bunbury is fun to watch as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: robomatic
Date: 22 Jul 21 - 04:59 PM

'The Simpsons' mocks BBC Documentaries


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 23 Jul 21 - 05:54 AM

Norwich City FC's new season football strip has been put on sale, and husband (of course!) ordered one. He was dancing about this morning because it will arrive today by Royal Mail.
We saw a chap in Tesco wearing the same shirt, but he was extremely obese and we reckoned it must have been size XXXL. It came down to his knees, and you could have camped out under it! Husband is size M.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jos
Date: 23 Jul 21 - 06:07 AM

"XXXL"

What someone I know calls "FXL".


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 23 Jul 21 - 06:51 AM

Otherwise known as "Fat Bastard Size"


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 23 Jul 21 - 07:47 AM

Exactly! Imagine if the two teams came out onto the pitch for a Premier League game, and the Norwich City lot were all size XXXL!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: fat B****rd
Date: 23 Jul 21 - 03:42 PM

Watch it Raggy ! :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: peteglasgow
Date: 23 Jul 21 - 07:13 PM

'you'll never walk alone' is a celtic song. sounded great when we played liverpool in the champions league a few years back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Jul 21 - 10:43 PM

peteglasgow,

by 'celtic'
you mean

Celtic FC versus Liverpool FC ?

As in "To Be A Somebody"
on the series "Cracker" ... ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Allan Conn
Date: 24 Jul 21 - 02:11 AM

There is some dispute over who sang it first with rival claims but I think Liverpool probably have the best claim. They were singing it on the terraces there shortly after Gerry & The Pacemakers released it in late 63 early 64. Celtic were also singing it from a very early date though. I spoke to one Liverpudlian years ago who said he went to the second leg of the European Cup Winners Cup semi final in 1966. Liverpool had lost the first leg in Glasgow and when he got into Anfield he was astonished to see it packed full with Celtic fans all singing "You'll Never Walk Alone" so they were apparently already singing it by the mid 60s too. Great anthem for both clubs. Here is Gerry leading both sets of fans in 2003 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzJqv_Oj_W0


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 24 Jul 21 - 01:56 PM

Sen, I believe John Hartson had weight problems in his few games for NCFC.

Cricket comes to mind for other sportsmen. A bit before my time but Colin Milburn had quite a frame, and apparently was (as well as being an excellent batsman) a surprisingly agile fielder.

Within a time I was following county cricket… I quite like this Wiki extract for Ian Austin who was a good county player for Lancs:

Enormously popular with the Lancashire crowd thanks to his uncomplicated batting style and equally old-fashioned waistline,


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 24 Jul 21 - 03:15 PM

I think you're right Jon. My sister says it's fitness that matters, not size. I feel a bit guilty now for 'fat-shaming'! It's just that in all the places in West Africa I've visited, I never once saw anyone obese. Strong, active and rather thin, but never too plump.
Husband has been mincing around in Fakenham Morrisons today in his new top. Had lots of cheery comments and compliments.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: keberoxu
Date: 26 Jul 21 - 06:28 PM

Who expected the USMNT soccer team to advance to
the Gold Cup semi-finals?

Judging from the fuss in the USA,
a lot of Murricans didn't.

Now they take on the team from Qatar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Jul 21 - 01:41 PM

Just read journalistic accounts of the game mentioned in the previous post.

One of those funny games that could have swung either way,
it sounds like.
Qatar's team, while a newer entity, looked promising going in.
The USMNT team, however, outlasted them and, I believe, wore them down.
The game sounds rather ugly, with only one goal scored and an awful lot of effort to prevent further goals from being scored.

Anyway, the USMNT team has won that game and now comes
a truly emotional meeting:
USA versus Mexico, they have been fierce rivals for some time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 30 Jul 21 - 02:58 PM

Our Norwich City FC team have had to cancel a friendly match against Sheffield because some have tested positive for Covid. Our big game (against Liverpool) is on 14th August. Husband says Liverpool will 'eat them alive'. It might not take place if players still test positive.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: keberoxu
Date: 31 Jul 21 - 08:34 PM

. . . and we will see what happens in this year's
Gold Cup Final, Mexico versus USMNT.

Gregg Berhalter of USMNT talks to the Daily Mail before Gold Cup Final


Gregg Berhalter's home team is the New England Revolution with coach Bruce Arena, which team I am watching with curiosity -- it's a newer team and doing impressive things in the MLS league.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Aug 21 - 09:03 AM

So Norwich vs Liverpool today. Be very afraid, Delia's lot. I've got just one word to say to Eliza and her fella, and that word is "GRRR..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Aug 21 - 11:51 AM

Hee hee Steve, "GRRR!" to you too! :)
Quite a few people on our street have hoisted the Norwich City FC flag on their poles. Husband reckons Norwich have a chance. At least Teemu Pukki the Finn, our striker, is playing.
He wore everything he possesses of the club's colours on our visit to Morrisons in Fakenham. And did his usual "Come on yew Yellows!" like a well-trained parrot while pushing our trolley around the aisles.
We shall see.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 14 Aug 21 - 02:28 PM

Heheh. Don't say you weren't warned... (evil grin with devil's horns emoji...)


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 14 Aug 21 - 04:44 PM

Oh blooming 'eck! We lost 0 -3 !! Pukki didn't score. And I think some of our team 'dived' when merely touched lightly by a Liverpool player.
If I knew how to do those emoji thingies Steve, I'd click on the Poo one and send you that! :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 15 Aug 21 - 01:48 AM

👹 👹
💩 💩


Dad had another fall yesterday. His main concern was that he would be able to follow the Norwich game. It turned out one of the crew that came to get him up was a Liverpool supporter and they had a light heated disagreement over the likely result.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 15 Aug 21 - 03:39 AM

I'm sorry about your dad having had a fall Jon. Hope he's alright. But what luck that a Liverpool chap arrived to help him - it must have distracted him nicely with all the banter.
And WELL DONE for getting those emoji doodahs up! You must be very techie-savvy (I'm still at the cave-woman stage I'm afraid!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 15 Aug 21 - 05:54 AM

I started this thread 3 years ago to suggest that Hurling and Gaelic football were more entertaining than the UK variety of football.

Yesterday I watched the highlights of the engliash Premiership and saw 25 goals in total from 7 matches. I also watched the semi-final of the Gaelic football competition which after the 70 minute playing period was 0-13 to 0-13. It then went to extra time another 20 minutes when the final score was Dublin 0-14 to Mayo 0-17.

So in the one match the scores were more than the whole of the premiership matches.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Aug 21 - 06:41 AM

Well it's great to see goals, but football is also about trying to prevent goals. Allison's spectacular double save in the Norwich-Liverpool match was as exciting to watch as any goal. Dour 0-0 draws can be tedious, but I've seen some great 1-0 games in my time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 15 Aug 21 - 08:45 AM

I know which I would prefer to watch though Steve, and it wouldn't be English football.

The Gaelic game is highly skilled, very tactical, played hard and mainly fair, there are few cynical offences and at a very high tempo.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Aug 21 - 12:16 PM

Excellent to see Spurs giving Man Citeh a good sheikhing even without spoiled brat Harry. €150 million my arse. Golden Boot for in-offs and penalties, and anonymous for almost the whole of almost every game...


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 16 Aug 21 - 05:17 PM

I take it you don't hold Harry Kane in a very favourable light.

His Grandfather hails from very close to where we are and there he is held in very high regard.

Rumour has it he has bought some land with a view to be building a house there at some point.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 16 Aug 21 - 06:01 PM

I think that his recent behaviour has been petulant and selfish. Instead of being so desperate to get to a club "where he can win trophies," he should be doing his damnedest to get Spurs to the top. They have a great new manager after a poor season under Mourinho but it is very recent that Spurs were in the top four twice, in a League Cup final and a Champions League final. He formed a great goal-scoring relationship with Son, but in his selfish quest for personal glory in a team game he seems to have overlooked that he's failed to win anything with Spurs in spite of his lionisation. He's no Messi, that's for sure.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Rain Dog
Date: 17 Aug 21 - 02:15 AM

"He's no Messi, that's for sure."

Not many are these days, if we are talking about players who stay with one club throughout their career. Liverpool have bought a number of players over the years.

I am a Spurs supporter (or rather a follower as someone called me. They have not had much of my money over the years). I would prefer Kane to stay but it does not surprise me that he might want to move. A football career is short and the number of prizes are small. No surprise that he wants a chance to win some.

Spurs might be a top club financially but not when it comes to winning things. Over the years they have always lost their better players to 'bigger' or better clubs. It is the nature of the beast.

We shall see what we shall see. Good win on Saturday but it is s long season. On another day, City will probably not spurn so many chances.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Aug 21 - 03:59 AM

Whilst a Liverpool follower (I like that, actually), I've always had a soft spot for Spurs. I think they have a very decent squad and on Sunday they seemed to have responded with great enthusiasm to their new manager, Nuno. You could almost say they were better without Kane. Son is brilliant and Lucas Moura is grievously underestimated. Messi stayed at Barca not only in their glory days but through their long decline in recent years. "Just get the ball to Messi" was a tactic that went on for years latterly and it didn't work. "Just get the ball to Harry" won't work either. He's 28, he lacks pace and he has glass ankles (as well as too much ego for a supposed team player). I think he's past his best. Daniel should ask for 200 million and make suckers out of Citeh. Harry won't make them better.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Aug 21 - 12:03 PM

Is that because they can't possibly get any better? :-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Rain Dog
Date: 17 Aug 21 - 02:55 PM

The beautiful game.

"Galatasaray's Marcao was red carded after headbutting and punching his own team-mate on Monday.

The Brazilian defender was dismissed just after the hour mark of Gala's 2-0 league win over Giresunspor after losing it with winger Muhammed Kerem Akturkoglu.

The centre-back seemed to take exception to something that Akturkoglu said, as well as the winger putting his finger to his lips in a 'be quiet' gesture.

He responded by running from his own half to headbutt and then throw punches at the winger, and had to be restrained by team-mates before he was shown a red card."

BBC - Heading is bad for your health


Good job they were not losing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 23 Aug 21 - 09:15 AM

Yesterday I watched the scintillating All Ireland Hurling final between Cork and Limerick.

Limerick ran out winners by a score of 3-32 to 1-22.

There where more points scored in that one match of 70 minutes than the entire matches of the Premiership and Championship football matches combined played over a total of 1800 minutes.

It really is a far better spectator spectacle.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 24 Aug 21 - 01:22 PM

Oh crumbs, Man City beat Norwich City 5-0 on Saturday, after Liverpool beat us 3-0 the week before. We're doomed! Doomed I tell you!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 26 Aug 21 - 06:09 AM

No we're not! We beat Bournemouth 6-0 on Tuesday! Woooohoooo!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 28 Aug 21 - 01:12 PM

Yes we are! Leicester beat us today 2-1. Here in Norwich. Gaaaaah!


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: keberoxu
Date: 28 Aug 21 - 03:31 PM

This is the first I have heard of this phrase,
yet it is reported as a figure of speech that
occurs in football (your football).

Who has heard of this?
Attributed to Andy Gray.


"He would struggle on a cold night at the Brittania Stadium"


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Rain Dog
Date: 29 Aug 21 - 05:22 AM

There have been different versions of this comment over the years. Skillful and/or foreign players would not cope on a cold wet and windy night at Turf Moor or Plough Lane etc.

Players tend to get less time on the ball before a challenge comes in. Some players struggle with that when they first arrive. The play can also be more physical here too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 29 Aug 21 - 04:08 PM

6-0 is nice but I'm not really sure what we can read into the Carabao cup win, Sen. Norwich had 10 changes from the side that lost 6-0 to Man City but I don't know (and am ignorant about) how many of them are likely to get selected for a Premiership game.

It never(to me) seems to be a high priority trophy for the bigger clubs. I did get to Wembley to see Norwich lose to Villa 1975 when it was the League Cup.

Just maybe, you could take some hope from the Leicester game. I caught a bit of game updates on the BBC thing dad watches (or can be glued to...) and I read the BBC match report. My impression was Norwich played quite well and didn't "deserve" to loose.

But that's how things go. Maybe better to follow, I don't know but having Liverpool, Man C and Leicester in your first few games isn't the easiest of starts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 29 Aug 21 - 05:29 PM

You're right Jon. Husband says the same - "It's early days, and we've had some tough teams to play against." (He lives in hope!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Aug 21 - 10:06 PM

I find it curious that things are just getting ready
for FIFA World Cup 2022, and at the same time,

the United States is courting FIFA regarding the
World Cup 2026 -- I think I got that right --
part of which is to happen in the US.
Just read a story about the city of Nashville, Tennessee.

Nashville dearly wants to help host
the US portion of the 2026 World Cup.
So there is a 2022 World Cup qualifier match for the USMNT
this coming Sunday, it's in Nashville,
(US vs. Canada if I understand rightly)
and Nashville is going to try to persuade FIFA to
let them host part of 2026.


Sept 16 visit, FIFA to be wined and dined in Nashville, Tennessee


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Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: keberoxu
Date: 04 Sep 21 - 11:12 PM

More about Nashville, Tennessee, which dearly wants to 'go to the ball'
concerning the 2026 FIFA World Cup.

The list of USA cities who want to host, in 2026, includes:

Los Angeles
Houston, TX
Cincinnati, OH
Baltimore, MD
San Francisco
Philadelphia
Kansas City
. . . and Nashville.

Nashville Tennessean, 1 Sept. 2021


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