BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 20 Dec 18 - 02:58 PM

Hi Steve

I believe that Pogba is a destructive influence to the other players, regardless of his being a member of the France World Cup Team.

Your other points I agree with. Mourinho was not the right type of manager for the likes of Rashford and Martial....and others, Lingard etc.

How the new "regime will progress we will have to wait and see. I think Mike Phelan will be a valuable asset to Ole as indeed will Michael Carrick.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 20 Dec 18 - 02:47 PM

hi Steve

Eccles cakes ?????

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Dec 18 - 09:00 PM

Can't agree about Pogba, Mike. He could thrive under a less repressive manager. He did win the World Cup for France, lest we forget. A good gaffer could also bring out the best in Martial and Rashford, who have been very badly served by Mourinho. But I hope that Poch stays at Spurs. After all the good he's done it would be miserable to see him leave. Make Zinedine The Twat your target man!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Dec 18 - 06:29 PM

D'you know summat, Raggytash, despite all my years in Radcliffe and the fact that there was always a direct bus from Radcliffe to Eccles, I have never been to Eccles. How can that be. What have I missed?

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 19 Dec 18 - 03:11 PM

Local dialect from Eccles Steve, local dialect !!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Dec 18 - 02:59 PM

"I reckon at least two yeats before..."

WB and Big Ron, perhaps? :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 19 Dec 18 - 02:46 PM

Hi Raggy

I think most intelligent supporters know that they have a huge task on their hands.

I think that what they want is to see United start to fight back and show the attacking philosophy that used to be in United;s DNA.

ole Solskjaer has accepted the Caretaker job with an immediate start.
He will have Mike Phelan, Fergie's old right hand man as his partner, and Michael Carrick to help where necessary.There will be a wealth of knowledge of the Club and how they want them to play. And the Club know what they want and will put money into the project.

Solskjaer has something to prove as his only management job in the Premiere League ended up with Cardiff City going down and he got the sack.

This is different though Cardiff were a very poor side and the Club had no money.

I agree that Pogba should go and with him Sanchez if he does'nt start to earn his huge wages and cost to the Club.

It could be interesting.....we wait with baited breath


Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Dec 18 - 03:49 PM

I fear most supporters DO expect miracles. I reckon at least two yeats before we can compete again.

Next thing to do is get rid of Pogba, he still doesn't seem to understand that no one is bigger than the club.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 18 Dec 18 - 02:43 PM

Hi Raggy
Completely agree with you. Jose just had to go. He does so with 18 million smackers in his pocket.

In a ironic way Liverpool did us a favour !! They demonstrated to all just how low United have fallen.

The rumours will start who will succeed him. At the moment the view of some is that they will appoint a stand - in manager. Somebody who understands United and what the require. Ole solskjier (sic) has been mentioned. I would prefer Ryan Giggs to work with Michael Carrick to start the re-building. We need a person(s) who can get back to creating    a youth policy as well as re-juvenating the Premier League side.

It won't be quick, there is a lot to do but like most supporters I don't expect miracles.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 18 Dec 18 - 10:13 AM

I don't normally relish anyone being sacked, however he will have a nice pay off (18 million was one figure I heard) so he'll not starve.

Let's hope the next manager can build Man Utd back to where the supporters expect them to be ........ at the top.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Dec 18 - 05:21 AM

Bye bye José!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Dec 18 - 08:14 PM

Now we have Fabinho as the midfield playmaker and Shaq-attack completing the upfront Fab Four. We need fear no-one!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 17 Dec 18 - 02:59 PM

Hi Steve

Liverpool 3 v Manchester United. 1

I was unfortunate enough to watch this game as I was embarrassed by such a weak and cowardly performance by a United side that hadn't a
clue how to handle a vibrant Liverpool team that knew exactly what it was doing as it tore United to threads.

United were a disgrace, they could not even pass the ball to each other. they didn't/couldn't tackle and meekly watched Liverpool run rings round them.

In contrast Liverpool were dynamic and had a plan and played to it. If it hadn't been for being wayward in front of goal it could have been a cricket score. The statistics tell the story Liverpool had 40 shots at goal - United had 2.........one of which was a mistake by the goalkeeper.

I don't mean to take anything from Liverpool's display they are light years away in front of United.

Surely the Old Trafford Board must do something very quickly. They need to get rid of Mourinho, Pogba and Sanchez. There are about a dozen more that are frankly not good enough and must go soon.

We know it won't be quick and won't be easy. The youth team could put up a better performance.

To sum up....While I was in the shop getting a paper. two guys were discussing the game. One said to the the other " They have drawn Paris S G they won't be long in there. The other guy said They've got to play Reading in the FA cup !!!!! nuff said.

Cheer

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 17 Dec 18 - 02:28 PM

Hi Rusty

I watched that match and was very impressed by Southampton's performance. They looked easily like teams much higher in the league. They had pace, goal scorers ( for once) and they attacked and defended well. I know about their patchy performances but maybe this will encourage both players and the well deserving supporters who were magnificent.

All the best to you and your team -

Regards

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 17 Dec 18 - 04:26 AM

Of course, the Saints got Danny Ings from Liverpool...:-)

Good few days' work by Liverpool. And is The Special One sunk?

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 17 Dec 18 - 03:07 AM

After a grim autumn, and yet another change of manager, there's figurative light at the end of the metaphorical tunnel: Southampton 3 Arsenal 2, lifting the Super Saints out of the drop zone and ending Arsenal's 22-match unbeaten run. Happy days, until the next plunge into despondency.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 14 Dec 18 - 02:47 PM

Hi

Almost on the eve of the Liverpool v Manchester United game my wife's sister decides to come over from Spain to spend Xmas & New Year with us.

You may wonder why this is a problem????? She is an ardent Liverpool supporter. Can you imagine how I am going to feel when I see her gloating as Liverpool take United apart??

We have let her live free in our house in Spain for for as long as she wants.   Life's not fair. lol

I see Klopps is moaning about having a couple of injured players. ...

He should be lucky !!! We have 37 of them.

Cheers

Mike

Keep Smiling

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 13 Dec 18 - 02:56 PM

hi Steve

Yes they could have thought it out better but they did't think nor   did ( and most others) that Young Boys would beat Juventus. It's easy after the event to see what they could have done.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Dec 18 - 06:26 AM

With better judgement United could have topped the group and had the prospect of meeting less stern opposition in the next round than they probably will now.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 13 Dec 18 - 06:19 AM

Hi

Valencia 2 - Man United 1

I watched it and maybe it was to be expected with 8 changes but we performed like a group of people who had never met before. No organisation of the defence no apparent plan how to play the game.

The team they were playing were made to look like World beaters when in fact they are a very average side in the Spanish League.

I hate to think what's going to happen at the week-end when we play Liverpool !!!

No Christmas present me-thinks.

heers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 12 Dec 18 - 11:20 AM

Hi Steve

Yes a good game to watch. The winner was in doubt to the very end.

Yes Liverpool were the better team; especially in the second half when Napoli had to open up. This suited Liverpool and but for some very wayward finishing they could ( should ) have scored six. That great save at the end saved them and Napoli's last chance was netted but offside...phew!!!

Well done I really enjoyed it,

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Dec 18 - 05:27 AM

I was just thinking, that remark could have come straight from the mouth of God...Oops, sorry, I mean Bill Shankly...

Same thing anyway I suppose...

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Dec 18 - 05:15 AM

Another epic European night at Anfield. Except for the finishing, Liverpool were superior but millions of Liverpool fans woke up this morning with no fingernails left. And what a last-ditch save by Allison, right up there with Gordon's save from Pele! Well done to Spurs too but I wonder whether Barça disrespected the competition by fielding such a weakened team, knowing they were already through.

As one wag said in the Guardian comments section after the match report, any fan who is tired of Anfield is tired of life...

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 11 Dec 18 - 06:13 AM

Hi Steve

I agree that it was a great week-end for football fans even for recorded games.

Liverpool were outstanding and OK, so he was a millimetre offside....great to see Mo back to his best, his last goal was beauty personified .

Congrats on climbing to the top. They deserve it.

Chelsea did you a favour so don't be too hard on them...lol, It's going to be a treat to watch the battle for the top.

Going to watch the Euro games. We are already through so I expect a " strange " team from mourinho.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 11 Dec 18 - 06:01 AM

Hi Sen

I am pleased that your husband enjoyed his trip to " The Theatre of Dreams. We have been there many times.



We also have been on the tour round the ground several times as our children and grand/great children grew up. We were always delighted by the way they they entertain visitors.

I was there last Saturday to see them demolish Fulham. No great deal as Fulham are struggling at the bottom of the League. But at this stage will will take what we can. There was more oeganisation and purpose in this display but we have a way to go to scramble into top four.

I will be watching for Norwich and their march to the top.

Kind regards

Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 09 Dec 18 - 02:39 PM

That's made me feel much better Jon. Please thank your parents for me.

He's been to Carrow Road before many years ago, when his lovely driving instructor, who was very fond of him, offered to take him to a match as a treat along with his son. He was so thrilled. Wasn't that kind?

And he went on an Easton's bus trip alone all the way to Manchester to Old Trafford, and gazed at the actual ground where all his idols played. He was allowed to put one foot on the turf! And to go into the changing rooms, where a shirt with Rooney's name printed on it was hanging up on a peg. (staged of course)

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 09 Dec 18 - 02:07 PM

I've just talked to my parents Sen. Their original season ticket seating when they moved here was in the Barklay Stand which is the (how do you put it) "traditional main home supporters end?" but when dad started finding it harder to get to the ground (and I think they also switched to using a coach service that was met by some sort of shuttle buggy thing to the ground), they switched to the South (/Jarrold) Stand and I'd guess not too far off where your husband will be. Their only complaint seems to be that it was a touch stuffy in attitude compared to the Barklay.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 09 Dec 18 - 01:45 PM

Oh Jon thank you so much! That's really reassured me.

He has no concept of nastiness around football, and has never in all his years here encountered racism, so he's blissfully happy wherever he goes. I'm a little more aware and protective, although he's perfectly able to take care of himself.

He wore his new scarf and hat today and they were much needed. The wind in Fakenham (Morrisons supermarket) was dreadful.

Hope The Canaries win on Boxing Day!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 09 Dec 18 - 01:28 PM

As far as I understand it, the "Snake Pit" is the corner between the Barclay Stand and the Geoffry Watling Stand. I believe it to be an area favoured by some of the more (shall I say) raucous Norwich City supporters.

Away supporters are in the part of the South Stand which is the other side of the Barklay stand.


I'd have thought your husband would be fine where he is which is the other side of the South Stand to the away supporters aread.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 09 Dec 18 - 12:15 PM

And WHAT an exciting game Norwich had against Bolton! Pukki scored at the last possible moment to save the day.
The Canaries really are doing very well so far this season.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 09 Dec 18 - 12:13 PM

Our neighbour was asking me about the ticket I've got for the Boxing Day match against Nottingham Forest. He said NOT to get one in the Snake Pit, where the opposing team's supporters sit, which is in the South Stand.
So I've just had a look at the actual ticket, and it says South Stand. Gulp!
But at the other end to the Snake Pit. And looking at the plan of Carrow Road stadium, the sign for 'away supporters' only goes along the first few areas. My husband's ticket is in area M, more or less at the other end to the Snake Pit. And printed on the ticket is 'Home Supporters Only'.
I just hope he's not placed all alone in among a mob of Nottingham supporters, who might also be racist.
He says he doesn't mind one bit, and will simply enjoy the game.
Do you think this will be all right for him?

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Dec 18 - 07:42 PM

And Pep, Gawd bless 'im, was wrong. It WAS a corner. The one that ended up with David Luiz scoring with that superb header. What a man. Man of the match! I've seen so much great football today. Just what the fans deserve.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Dec 18 - 04:30 PM

Fabulous day. Liverpool cruised past Bournemouth at Bournemouth, an inspired performance and a hat-trick from Mo. I've tried my damnedest to persuade meself that his first goal wasn't offside and I've scoured the rules of the game. But I gotta be honest. He was a tad offside. Then Man Citeh were beaten by Chelski which means that we're on top, and the goal difference has been slashed by six. I believe Manure had a good day but I'll have to wait until MOTD comes on. Grand!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Dec 18 - 04:05 PM

Best=beat. Or maybe bested?

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Dec 18 - 04:04 PM

I hear that the Russian best the Arab. Didn't see the match though.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 06 Dec 18 - 02:35 PM

Hi Steve et al.

I watched Man United v Arsenal lat night. I recorded the other games and have only just dug them out.

United's game was exciting but not particularly skillful. United made 7 changes to the side mainly to the defence. Pogba was left on the bench ans wasn't missed. !!!

Both teams attacked but both defences blocked out each other for much of the game.

United came from behind twice to get a 2-2 draw. It was better than some of \united' recent games. Holding a team that has not lost in it's last 15 games is an improvement that we can build on. It was sometimes comical as all four goals were mistakes by the defences. But we were happy to see some organization and hard work being put in.

Cheers

Mike

Not good enough to make the top four.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Dec 18 - 05:56 PM

A tough call is Arsenal these days, Mike. Good to see the Gunners joining the ranks of Liverpool, City, Everton and Spurs in playing positive, attacking football that's great for the fans to watch. Actually, Everton paid the price in the last few minutes of the game by trying to sit on the nil-nil, lest we forget. Apart from that they were great. Football may be big business and all that, but ultimately it's all about providing passion and entertainment, win or lose, for the fans. I doubt that José is listening...

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Dec 18 - 09:23 AM

Hi

I have supported ( not always watched due to my other sports activities).

But I have " supported" them man and boy for over 70 years.
Although I am totally dismayed by the current situation I will carry on my support knowing that most teams do go through times of stress. I am confident that they will sort out the problems but I know that it will not be tomorrow and that there will be more poor times to come.

Yes I thought that the Liverpool Derby was a great game and but for a piece of bad luck Everton were denied the draw that they clearly deserved. Liverpool got that little bit of luck that seems to follow teams at the top. But that is football and Liverpool look good enough to really challenge Man City for the top place.

Clopp did his Ussain Boult sic ,act at the end to the enjoyment of all but Everton fans.

The Southern Derby of Arsenal v Spurs was also a cracking game with Arsenal beginning to look like there is life after Wenger. Hope Man United have taken note and are looking for a new person to lift them out of the current problems.

We play Arsenal tomorrow...hope this is the start of a revival.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Dec 18 - 06:08 PM

The Merseyside derby was, however, a vintage match, entertaining for the fans from start to finish, and that wacky ending will forever live in the annals of Liverpool folklore. I must confess it was tough on Everton, who have become a really good side under yer new man. I loved reading Origi saying that "Virg" had given him a brilliant assist for his goal!

Hey, Mike, why carry on indulging in self-harm by watching Man U?! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 03 Dec 18 - 04:19 PM

I've bought my husband a ticket for the Boxing Day match at Carrow Road between Norwich City and Nottingham. And we went down there on Sunday to the team shop, to get him a warm woolly hat and a scarf to wear. They have a huge selection, and he got a reversible beanie hat, black on one side and dark green stripes on the other. Plus a really thick scarf.
He can't wait. Hope they win against Nottingham!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Raggytash
Date: 03 Dec 18 - 03:45 PM

Quick summary of the weekend

Liverpool 1 Everton 0

Scrawpy bastards !!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 03 Dec 18 - 02:38 PM

Hi

Quick summary of week-end' game

Southampton 2 - Man United 2.

Just one word necessary. RUBBISH.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 29 Nov 18 - 05:26 AM

Hi John

I enjoyed your walk down memoory lane.

I had a similar bringing up in football. My father wse Manchester United but his brother who lived in Hillsborough Sheffield was Sheffield Wednesday.

I spent a lot of time with my Aunt and cousins and we used to find ways to get into the Wednesday ground. We did get in most times.

Any one here remember Derek Dooley ??

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 29 Nov 18 - 05:17 AM

Hi

Steve

Paris SG " - Liverpool 1

liverpool were undone in a first half that saw the defence opened up by a classy Paris team. A penalty converted in the last minute of the first half by James Milner gave them some hope of survival. They were better in the second hall but could not penetrate a strong Paris defence. In the whole game the Paris goalkeeper only had one shot to save. That tells the story. Paris exploited some weakness in the defence and particularly played on Joe Gomez who is good when attacking but his defensive game needs sharpening.

They now have to wine by two goals against against Napoli to stay in the Championship. Not an easy task.

Cheers

Mike

One thing that showed itself for me was the way Clopp went and hugged each of his team in turn to give them confidence.

Unlike Mourinho who kicked and hurled a water bag and the he stormed off with even acknowledging
his team even though they had won.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 28 Nov 18 - 02:27 PM

Hi Steve

I didn't watch both games at the same time so naturally I chose United. You are right it was drab and again United were lethargic and almost unconcerned. If we had been playing a better team we would have got murdered. As it was after a scramble and a bundle of missed chances by Rashford and Martial , we got into the game and it took a world=class save by de Gea and a lucky goal by Fellainie who looked to have touched the ball in scoring; and lo and behold we were in the next round. PHEW !!!

I am in place for Liverpool game and hope to see a cracker.

Cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 28 Nov 18 - 07:37 AM

Hi Mike,

Norwich City follower here. I'm not from there but dad was and I think it was the first team I heard of, etc... I haven't done much, except keep an eye on scores, in years and don't follow much football but they are still "my club" if it comes to the push. A keener period for me would have been early 70s when they got promotion the the old 1st division for the first time.

We used to see the odd game at Carrow Road when we visited grandad, both from N Wales and Kent when we lived there. Even got free tickets there once in the 80s when we (4 brothers) went up with family to Norwich to be made Freemen of the city (dad just wrote to try to book 10 tickets together for a game, explaining why and they gave this), a bit odd in a posh area behind glass but a good view and to cap it off we beat Liverpool 2-1 that day - well for most of us, the partner of one brother was a Liverpool supporter.

Parents were season ticket holders there when they moved to Norfolk late 90s but it's been a while since they could manage that.

Coming on to the recent run, it's been funny at home seeing Farke going from clueless idiot who must go to genius in a short while but I guess that's football and I don't get some mentalities... There are times with dad and a couple of people he talks with where you could be forgiven for thinking that Ipswich finishing bottom with Norwich second bottom and relegated would be considered a better outcome than Ipswich top, Norwich runners up and both promoted but I suppose that's "football rivalry"...

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Nov 18 - 08:34 PM

When I said Premier League I meant Champions League. Grr.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Nov 18 - 08:13 PM

Well obviously I couldn't watch two matches so I opted for Lyon-City. It was a good game, better by all accounts than the drab match at Old Trafford. City copped two goals from the team second in France, compared with just five in thirteen Premier League games. They are by no means a shoo-in for the title OR the Premier League. The real team playeth tomorrow...

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: Senoufou
Date: 27 Nov 18 - 02:44 PM

Hello there Mike!

Very kind of you to send good wishes for Norwich's success to my husband. He says, "Merci beaucoup Monsieur Michel!"

I've seen Delia quite a bit in the past at St John's RC Cathedral, where I used to attend Mass (I'm C of E, but quite ecumenical!)

I used to love her cookery programmes and have one or two of her cookery books. She has an excellent, simple cookery style using plain, good quality food.

Nice to hear from you again!
Kindest regards,
Senoufou

PS "On the ball City!" etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Football (not the U.S. kind)
From: MikeL2
Date: 27 Nov 18 - 02:33 PM

Hi Sen

Yes indeed Norwich are top of the Championship League. They have had a golden period recently and have landed at the top having won several games without loss.

I am pleased to hear that your husband is delighted with their performances. I hope they can keep in front. I would love to see them again at Old Trafford. I have seen them twice. Some years ago my wife enjoyed seeing Delia Smith after the game. My wife wanted to see her because she ( my Wife) is a very good cook and she thinks Delia is one of the people who helped her to succeed as a chef when she was starting her catering business.

The championship League IMHO is the most difficult to win as there are about a dozen other teams capable of winning it.

Please give my regards to your husband and I will keep an eye on Norwich's performances in future.

Kind Regards

Mike