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Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)

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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 01:33 PM

...either way, be better, one feels, if Google, Twitter, etc., were owned and managed by the United Nations.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: mg
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 01:57 PM

i don't do much on google earth..but i am fascinated by archeological shows. i like to watch time team..on hulu I think. What mystifies me is how much pottery they find. Of course it was breakable...but did people just leave broken pottery around? Why is there so much? And coins...


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 02:03 PM

I have overviewed studies of denosovian inter breeeding with modern humans that range from from 800,000 years ago to only 15,000 years ago in Papu New Guinea. Both are two seperate events and not continuous.
With mitochondrial DNA from large denosovian teeth it has shown populations in South Asian Indonesia show as much as 5% denosovian dna present especially in shared Gene 2. At any rate it doesn't matter much in this day and age, 'lawn chair paleoarcheologists agree'.
There does seem to be a mysterious relative or relatives with 46 chromosomes that started the human hominid branch in all its early diversity.

Dave btw in January I slipped and fell in Niagara Falls on the American side at Terrapin point. The exact spot was deemed too dangerous and was dynamited years ago. I was saved by my actual fingernails and two friends as I was only in up to my waist in slow current but the edge was only meters away. I remember how my pants were frozen solid on the walk back to the car.
People do inner tube in the fast Niagara river miles above Horseshoe Falls in July.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Mar 21 - 02:38 PM

I think I saw footage where it was temporarily damned to work on the fall itself, yes?

As you may know, Donuel, unlike yourself, Matthew Webb, the first to swim the English channel, sadly didn't live to tell the tale of swimming the Whirlpool Rapids below Niagara Falls.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 31 Mar 21 - 05:08 AM

Dig reveals 6,000-year-old salt hub in North Yorkshire


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Mar 21 - 07:39 AM

Going back much further, Neanderthals are being tracked by the mineral signatures in the very few workable flint outcroppings that were shared for thousands of years.

Some of the last Denosovians bred with modern humans on an island in Indonesia. Other rare remains were found in Nepal.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 Apr 21 - 09:06 PM

Arabian coins found in US may unlock 17th-century pirate mystery


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Apr 21 - 09:18 PM

Interesting - though it's a head-scratcher how they ended up in the soil in such a random fashion (of course, we don't know what was once on that soil - buildings, an encampment, etc., things not durable enough to leave marks).


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Apr 21 - 01:00 PM

http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/kalahari-humans-09512.html

"Innovative Humans Thrived in Water-Rich Kalahari 105,000 Years Ago"


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Apr 21 - 12:00 PM

I recognized the calcite crystals before I read the article - the interesting angles of crystal growth.

Quartz and iron pyrite (for example) would be useful together for sparks (fire starter) but calcite doesn't have that kind of use. Assuming that crystals were for decorative and ceremonial use is something we can do by associating our own attraction to shiny or pretty colors. Determining where the calcite came from would help determine trade routes or migratory habits of the people who spent time in that shelter. There's a comparable travelled rock from the Texas panhandle, a form of microcrystaline quartz found in the Alibates Flint Quarry. If you go to the site you see all of these spots where plants are growing in distinct round spots about 6 feet across scattered across the landscape. The quarries (hundreds, maybe thousands of them) were small holes dug, with rocks chipped out as they were mined, and over time they filled with blown topsoil. Plants were able to grow in that soil where the surrounding areas are still so rocky most plants can't get established. Those filled in quarries also would hold moisture to keep plants green year-round.

The flint from Alibates has been found down into Mexico and hundreds of miles east and west of the location. The surmise is that nodules of the beautifully-color quartz were easily carried for trade for knapping into points where they ended up. You wouldn't do that with calcite, it's too soft.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Apr 21 - 09:03 AM

Just from my informal observation as a people watcher I have seen faces of people who resemble early hominids in SE Asian populations (pigmentation aside) and Neanderthals in North America whose features were textbook and ancestry tinged with inbreeding in Zor Valley NY.
Honest to god some of the features were stark. I have not been so affected by tke features of native Americans who I find possess a global beauty of world wide variation.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Apr 21 - 04:35 PM

In Bill's neck of the woods there are gigantic white boulders of shocked quartz scattered everywhere. What is now the Chesepeak Bay was an impact site that created all the shocked quartz. Maany peple proudly display these white boulders in their yard as decoration.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 07 Apr 21 - 07:36 PM

Stone slab found in France thought to be Europe’s oldest 3D map


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Apr 21 - 11:56 PM

I don't think this one has been shared here yet: Archaeologists unearth bronze age graves at Stonehenge tunnel site


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 09 Apr 21 - 05:32 AM

3,000-year-old ‘lost golden city’ of ancient Egypt discovered
BBC - 'Lost golden city' found in Egypt reveals lives of ancient pharaohs
national Geographc story


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 16 Apr 21 - 06:06 AM

Boomerangs were the multi-tool of early Indigenous Australians


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Apr 21 - 01:36 PM

Right here in the USA


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Apr 21 - 07:13 PM

I've always thought the mounds down South were uilitarian spaces of high ground to take shelter in floods of the Missisipi and hurricanes.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 20 Apr 21 - 09:02 PM

The World’s Largest Intact Ancient Mosaic Opens to Public in Antakya, Turkey

The hotel being built on the site was redesigned so as not to damage the 2nd & 5th century mosaics.   architecture of the Museum Hotel

Journey with us into the story of ancient Antioch through videos, touch screens and 3D projections that bring the past to life before the absorbing the raw energy of the site itself.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Apr 21 - 07:20 AM

Harriet Tubman: archaeologists find abolitionist’s lost Maryland home
Harriet Tubman home discovered


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Raggytash
Date: 21 Apr 21 - 08:18 AM

Wow! The mosaic is brilliant. Thanks for posting Sandra.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Apr 21 - 10:37 AM

what I love is the strength of the mosaic vs. earthquake, all those tiny little pieces were so well fastened down, it just bent not broke.

The hotel is an amazing piece of architecture, sitting around a heritage site. An example for other owners of heritage sites of what can be done by a thoughtful (vs. money making) owner.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Apr 21 - 09:55 AM

I noticed how 3D illusions were part of these mosaics

Why were Neanderthals wiped out? My personal musings imagine that Neanderthals must have been an evolved species that were originally out of Africa but adapted to cold and 1/10th the sunlight. As unlikely as it sounds, were they wiped out by what was essentailly their ancestors?
Was (lack of) beauty an element of their extinction? Did different vocalization or language play a role? Did a form of racism shape the encounters with other humans? Perhaps some humans believed Neanderthal lives matter but maybe many didn't. Did weapon technology like the bow and arrow play a role? It seems earth changes and climate is the prevaling status quo explanation today.
jus askin, i'm not accusin.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 22 Apr 21 - 10:32 AM

The Campanian Ignimbrite, a super-eruption in the Bay of Naples 39000 years ago, probably played a part. Most of the caldera is submerged under the sea, but there are still fumaroles, boiling mud pools and bradyseism in the area. It's an entertainingly dangerous place of the Yellowstone ilk. If it goes off again it won't be a few thousand Neanderthals, but the three million people in and around Naples who may be doomed.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 12:47 PM

Over here paleontologist heaven is in Nebraska for the millions of easy to recover mamallian fossils. (with help from native Americans).
Dino fossils are further west washed up in amalgams of multiple animals from when glacial dams broke and flooded what we now call the bad lands.

Ask Rap about the beautiful places among the badlands.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 03:08 PM

I think the ancient city of Cahokia has largely gone unconsidered, when compared to the large stone edifices built in the south of Mexico, in Central America, and in the northern reaches of South America. But it was impressive and large in contrast to just about anything around (though there were some large communities with mounds down along the southern Mississippi River also).

What Doomed the Great City of Cahokia? Not Ecological Hubris, Study Says

Excavations at the city, famous for its pre-Columbian mounds, challenge the idea that residents destroyed the city through wood clearing.

A thousand years ago, a city rose on the banks of the Mississippi River, near what eventually became the city of St. Louis. Sprawling over miles of rich farms, public plazas and earthen mounds, the city — known today as Cahokia — was a thriving hub of immigrants, lavish feasting and religious ceremony. At its peak in the 1100s, Cahokia housed 20,000 people, greater than contemporaneous Paris.

By 1350, Cahokia had largely been abandoned, and why people left the city is one of the greatest mysteries of North American archaeology.

Now, some scientists are arguing that one popular explanation — Cahokia had committed ecocide by destroying its environment, and thus destroyed itself — can be rejected out of hand. Recent excavations at Cahokia led by Caitlin Rankin, an archaeologist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, show that there is no evidence at the site of human-caused erosion or flooding in the city.


The story is a lot longer, find the rest at the link.

There isn't a lot to be seen from above on Google Earth but if you search Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site you'll see a 360o photo from the tallest mound.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 05:58 PM

I lived in St. Louis one Fall semester at college, but had never heard of it not far on the other side of the river. I guess in 1959, not many others had.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 30 Apr 21 - 04:16 AM

Pregnant Egyptian mummy I checked out a lot of articles trying to find best pics - here are a few others

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1429740/archaeology-news-pregnant-ancient

Archaeology & history articles

and a bonus not about Egyptian mummies - Nazi gold (almost) found


URL fixed in Nazi gold article. ---mudelf


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 30 Apr 21 - 08:43 PM

Trove of Bronze Age jewellery discovered

Sculpture of mystery king dating back 3,000 years found in Israel (2018 story)

Discovery of ancient Aboriginal burial ground (2018 story) last par - Despite the community's concerns, global miner Rio Tinto has assured Mapoon residents a clear process is already in place to ensure the mine works with traditional owners to identify and manage cultural heritage. Last year Rio Tinto legally destroyed 46,000yo rock shelters in another state


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 16 May 21 - 10:01 PM

scroll to no. 8- What was found from an archeology dig in Amsterdam

Below the surface - Amsterdam Metro dig finds approximately 700,000 objects found from 119,000 BC to 2005 when the dig started. Click on each pic for a description - from 119000 BC seashells to a 2005 spinning top!


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 May 21 - 01:00 AM

The Amsterdam one was interesting, but those outhouses were certainly worth a look. And that model of the Mississippi - quite an idea in it's day. Too bad it's such a mess now, you'd think they'd figure out a way to bring new life to a project like that.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 17 May 21 - 02:39 AM

Messy Nessy - Blogging on the Off-Beat the Unique and the Chic It's a treasury of interesting articles & sites. I can spend hours there looking at articles, then the articles mentioned below, then ....


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Donuel
Date: 17 May 21 - 07:52 AM

I have been watching the series 'First Footprints' about the 50,000 year old rock paintings in Australia. They are more amazing than the French caves imo.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Donuel
Date: 17 May 21 - 09:22 AM

Excellent links Sandra. I only discovered Messy Nessie a month ago while researching Liebensborn. The results have been most satisfying.

River beds are a treasure trove whether its on Earth or Mars. :^/


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 17 May 21 - 09:43 AM

speaking of riverbeds - Mudlarking on the Thames
Listen to interviews with London's top mudlarks and see their collections

a google search on 'Thames mudlarks' gives zillions of results & lotsa' videos & pictures of their finds


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Donuel
Date: 18 May 21 - 08:18 PM

When waterways get dredged, new gets mixed with old so artifacts can turn up that aren't expected.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 18 May 21 - 10:17 PM

infill from 19th-21st century work on the Thames banks contains very interesting items.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 May 21 - 06:15 PM

I reminds me of reading about the area inside Crater of Diamonds State Park in Arkansas. They go in with a bulldozer after rainstorms and turn the soil so more stuff can come to the top. Park visitors go out in gear for mud and sift through the soil for diamonds.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 19 May 21 - 07:49 PM

diamonds!! ooohhh

much better than medieval shoes or pottery shards


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 21 May 21 - 04:57 PM

Because glass and all sorts can be cut with them, of course!


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 May 21 - 12:10 AM

Crater of Diamonds State Park

Google search on Crater of Diamonds images.

The thing about this place is that these are diamonds just as much as those found in Africa, but (maybe it's on the site) DeBeers never authenticated or maybe the Arkansas folks refused to join the diamond cartel, but the Arkansas diamonds aren't counted in the same way as the mined ones from Africa.

https://arktimes.com/sponsored/visit-arkansas/2017/04/06/visitor-finds-7-44-carat-diamond-at-arkansass-crater-of-diamonds-state-park


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 22 May 21 - 02:58 AM

Real on-the-ground archaeology news: the University of Sheffield wants to shut down its archaeology department. Which is one of the most important in the UK.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 22 May 21 - 06:36 AM

here in the Land oo Oz we are also losing 'unnecessary' university departments & courses but I can't find the article I read recently.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 22 May 21 - 06:59 AM

3 amazing tombs -
Warrior Burial Is Scythian Amazon Girl No Older Than 13

Examining the Stunning Treasures in the Siberian Valley of the kings reconstructed clothes & lots of gold

Siberian Ice Maiden who died of breast cancer


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Donuel
Date: 22 May 21 - 08:29 AM

In NYS near Herkimer I found 50 carots of Herkimer diamonds in matrix.
https://www.google.com/search?q=herkimer%20diamonds&oq=herkimer+diamonds&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i457j0l3j46i175i199i395i422i424j0i39


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 May 21 - 11:50 AM

I've poked around the the Herkimer area; that rock is hard to break up to get the clear quartz. I decided to buy a couple of pretty pieces in the gift shop. (I learned about that quartz in a geology class, so when I was working in the New York area for a few years I made plans to go by there.)


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 28 May 21 - 04:05 AM

Site in Syria could be world’s oldest war memorial, study finds


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Donuel
Date: 28 May 21 - 08:46 AM

In the Amazon we have found only 16 sites with wonderful cliff paintings. Paintings of giant seabirds that have gone extinct in the meantime was on one cliff. Carbon dating of the ochre paint spilled on a stump tested at 27 thousand years old. The most recent was 12 thousand.

Maggie you seem to have had so many mirrored experiences that I can relate to, its surreal. However sadly I have never been outside the north american continent.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 May 21 - 06:45 PM

I haven't been out of North America either. We have a wide-ranging set of similar interests.

They Syrian monument is shown in the article, and the bodies are described - I do wonder how they know how the bodies are placed without taking the monument apart? I'm guessing it wasn't a huge mound of dirt piled, by the basketful, on top of the bodies, but some other burial arrangement.


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Subject: RE: Armchair Archaeologist (via Google Earth)
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 28 May 21 - 08:01 PM

there are lots of references to the news article/press release, this is the only one I could find with links to further info

Syria, Tell Banat - scholarly references


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