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Lyr Req: Oro Se Do Bheatha 'Bhaile - Scottish

JMB 23 Feb 18 - 10:41 AM
Dave Hanson 24 Feb 18 - 02:23 AM
GUEST,RA 24 Feb 18 - 06:38 AM
Dave Hanson 24 Feb 18 - 08:07 AM
Jim Carroll 24 Feb 18 - 08:44 AM
GUEST,RA 24 Feb 18 - 10:53 AM
GUEST 24 Feb 18 - 01:36 PM
keberoxu 24 Feb 18 - 02:05 PM
GUEST,RA 24 Feb 18 - 04:48 PM
The Sandman 24 Feb 18 - 05:03 PM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Oro Se Do Bheatha 'Bhaile - Scottish
From: JMB
Date: 23 Feb 18 - 10:41 AM

Hi there. I tried doing a google search for a Scottish Gaelic version of this Irish Gaelic song. Is there one in existence anywhere? Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Oro Se Do Bheatha 'Bhaile - Scottish
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 24 Feb 18 - 02:23 AM

Why would there be a Scottish version of this old Irish song ?

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Oro Se Do Bheatha 'Bhaile - Scottish
From: GUEST,RA
Date: 24 Feb 18 - 06:38 AM

Why? Erm, possibly because of close cultural connections between Gaelic Scotland and Gaelic Ireland?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Oro Se Do Bheatha 'Bhaile - Scottish
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 24 Feb 18 - 08:07 AM

True but this is a welcoming home song, it even mentions the famous female pirate Grainne Mhaol, I'm pretty sure she was Irish.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Oro Se Do Bheatha 'Bhaile - Scottish
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 24 Feb 18 - 08:44 AM

Seems to be a solidly Irish song, though it does have Jacobite connections
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Oro Se Do Bheatha 'Bhaile - Scottish
From: GUEST,RA
Date: 24 Feb 18 - 10:53 AM

From what I can gather, the Grainne Mhaol verse was added to the original song (which mentions Bonnie Prince Charlie) by Padraig Pearse. I think JMB's original query is a valid one... although I don't know of a Scottish version of the song either!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Oro Se Do Bheatha 'Bhaile - Scottish
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Feb 18 - 01:36 PM

Eithne ní Uallachain sang, and recorded, a version I love : Óró

Not a Scottish one though.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Oro Se Do Bheatha 'Bhaile - Scottish
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Feb 18 - 02:05 PM

I can only offer a negative confirmation, from a book in my collection.

Oro Se Do Bheatha Bhaile (fadas?)
is NOT to be found in
Malcolm MacFarlane (Calum MacPhárlain)'s
Binneas nam Bárd.
A Book in which the Poems, Songs, and Ditties of the Scottish Gaels
are Exhibited along with their Airs.
published in Stirling: Eneas Mackay, 1908.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Oro Se Do Bheatha 'Bhaile - Scottish
From: GUEST,RA
Date: 24 Feb 18 - 04:48 PM

Might be worth doing a search on the Tobar an Dualchais website (sound archive of the School of Scottish Studies)...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Oro Se Do Bheatha 'Bhaile - Scottish
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Feb 18 - 05:03 PM

interesting what was Pearse up to?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Oro Se Do Bheatha 'Bhaile - Scottish
From: JMB
Date: 26 Feb 18 - 08:20 AM

http://www.tobarandualchais.com/en/fullrecord/47750/1

I found a parody called Lucky Wee Prince Chairlie which mocks Bonnie Prince Chairlie on the site you suggested RA. Thanks for the tip.

I have a background in Scottish Gaelic, but I have learned Irish Gaelic songs before. I just learned the original 1745 Irish lyrics and will be working on the Pearse version shortly.

I have sung songs such as Brid Og Ni' Mhaille and Amhran na bhFiann.

I know that there were some songs that were shared between Scotland and Ireland, and the original version I believe was a Jacobite version showing Irish support of Bonnie Prince Chairlie's campaign in Scotland.

Thank you very much RA for the resource site.


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