Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?

Subject: Purely out of interest
From: Mick Lowe
Date: 09 Mar 18 - 08:44 PM

Is there anyone here (apart from Joe of course) who was posting threads etc some 16 years ago?

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Mar 18 - 08:55 PM

You betcha, Mick. Bill_D (Bill Day of Maryland) is first and foremost in my mind.
I was on vacation when Mudcat opened in October 1996, and didn't find Mudcat until January 1997. There were a few other people who posted in those first few months, who still post here.
Big Mick Lane was one, although his presence is diminished now. Same with Martin Ryan.
But if your perameter is 16 years ago in 2002, there are lots of people still here who were here then.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: Mick Lowe
Date: 09 Mar 18 - 09:07 PM

You've confused me now Joe.. I thought you were one of the founding fathers of this wonderful website. But I thank you for your help in getting me back into the community. Just wondering if the likes of Mick Brackn are still checking out the site.

Just wondering how many people still here remember "Prof's Pages"...

I know vanity on my part. But your comments are much appreciated.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: Jack Campin
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 06:24 AM

I think I've been around that long.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 04:53 PM

2000.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: Snuffy
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 05:03 PM

Signed in from 2000, but a visitor in '98 & '99

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 05:06 PM

First post Dec 01

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 06:06 PM

1998! I mostly lurk now, but I remember some golden years, golden folks, now singing in the next room...

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: fat B****rd
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 06:09 PM

November 8th 2000

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: Joe_F
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 06:22 PM

2000. But it seems I am *mentioned* a couple of years earlier.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: mousethief
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 06:34 PM

My first post appears to have been 29 August 2000. In which I made a fool of myself, so nothing has changed on that score.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 06:40 PM

I see that the first thread I put a tracer on was in January 1997, tho I didn’t post in it, so I’ve been around that long. I was first alerted to Mudcat while playing (harp) in a trad music session on the south coast of Ireland - I live here, tho I’m not Irish.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: MudGuard
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 06:58 PM

my first posting is from January 15, 1999

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 07:25 PM

My first ever post here was on 3rd October 2000, when I requested lyrics for "Sam the Skull", of all things....and got them pretty quickly too!
It was a friend who was recording my son's (indie) band who suggested I try the site for folk song lyrics.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: Jon Bartlett
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 11:19 PM

April 97
Jon

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Mar 18 - 11:54 PM

My first post was 5 January 1997, message #1116 in Mudcat history. I spent months looking for the Digital Tradition after it was dropped from its Xerox site. I've posted over 30,000 messages - I think there are many who have posted more.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 12:53 AM

It's interesting to look back at the first messages posted at Mudcat. For the first two weeks, Max was pretty-much alone in answering requests and questions, and then Dick Greenhaus took over. Bert and Susan Arnowitt were early contributors, and Susan of DT came on at Message #222. There's a "Peter," who might be Peter Timmerman; and an "Ed" who might be Ed Pellow. "Lindahl" comes in at Message 228, and "RS" was an early poster - haven't seen those names in years. Mary LaMarca first posted at Message 267, and continued posting until her death. Bob Schwarer was an early poster (#243), and he still posts occasionally. There were posts from somebody named "Bill," but I don't know what Bill that would be. Bill Day first posted 7 Nov 1996, post number 303 - he's been posting as Bill_D ever since. He's the first one outside the Max/Greenhaus/Susan/Bert consortium who's still posting regularly.

Here's the URL od the first post, which doesn't exist. The first post in existence is #4. Change that last "1" to a "4" and you can see it. Keep changing that last number to see other early posts. https://mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=1

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 03:17 AM

my first post was in March 2002, but I did post twice as Guest, Sandra before joining.

sandra

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: vectis
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 03:29 AM

I first posted as me in Jan 2001 but had lurked and been a guest before that. I loved and still love the DT and use/d it a lot,

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Cool Beans
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 07:01 AM

I've been posting since 1998 or 99. Still here.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: MMario
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 07:20 AM

I started posting in'98.

But I was using the site before that. And I still do, though I don't post much.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,Stu who was stigWeard who was Sugarfoot Jack
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 08:20 AM

Mudcat has been a major part of my online existence for nearly two decades. I too first posted in 2001, although I'm taking a break at the moment having become disillusioned by the bear pit that below the line has become and which seems to have a meanness about it that I don't need in my life at the moment. It was ever thus in a way, but it seems I don't learn much now whereas I used to learn a lot from people I never would have met otherwise. Some of my most fundamental views were challenged and altered as a result of these discussions.

I learn lots from above the line, especially in the early days as a fledgling bouzouki player seeking advice and the kindness and generosity of folk got me off the ground. The Cat was a place you could ask beginner's questions without being treated like a dullard, and this continues to this day.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 10:26 AM

Before 2000, I am pretty sure...

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 11:18 AM

how would one find out?

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 12:06 PM

Look at your post history.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Jim McLean
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 12:29 PM

I think I posted before 2000.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Felipa
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 12:44 PM

I've been posting on Mudcat most of this century, though not always as a Mudcat member. I think there are plenty of us longer-term participants still around.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 01:23 PM

16th August 2001

Gerry

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,Ed Pellow
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 01:37 PM

There's ... an "Ed" who might be Ed Pellow.

Not me Joe. I was aware of the DT since the Xerox days. I can't recall if I contributed any earlier, but my first post under my own name was in July '99. I posted under various monikers until the 'Healing for a mouse' thread caused the login policy to change.

I'm still around (obviously) and look in most days. I rarely post now, but occasionally as 'GUEST' or 'GUEST,Ed'

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Helen
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 01:41 PM

Request for: Let us go to the valley by the ocean 27-May-97 - 10:35 AM, but I had been lurking for a bit before that and I've been here ever since, mostly.

Learned lots, searched for answers lots, found lots of wonderful Mudcat people to connect with. Mudcat has been my internet constant for nearly 21 years.

Thanks Max, Joe, everyone,
Helen

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Raedwulf
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 01:47 PM

I was! Sort of... Apparently, my first post was 22/8/02. I blame Tig. It's all her fault!

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,khandu (cookieless)
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 02:55 PM

I first posted Aug.2000 for lyrics. Got them and signed as a member later that year. I posted often until 2008, sporadically since. Still a member but rarely post.

khandu

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 03:22 PM

June 2000 for me.

Good to see you still about, Stu. We miss you but you have to do what is best for yourself.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 05:10 PM

I joined in 1999, after reading a thread about... aw, hell, here it is: Catspaw - The Recovery, Part III. A kinder, gentler Mudcat, full of friends (many unmet), and possibilities.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 05:12 PM

"Joined" not being accurate, as there were no memberships back then. There was no need.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: selby
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 05:31 PM

2000 but as a guest for a while before that

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 09:12 PM

Yes, I'm still here, though age and commitments have limited my **regular** participation.

My claim to fame is that I was in the room watching when Susan of DT and a non-member, Dennis Cook, were comparing notebooks of songs and thinking about merging their databases. Dick Greenhaus was there and soon worked up a way to transfer stuff to 5 1/4" floppys.. for a couple of years, the Digital Tradition was distributed that way.... then it was briefly hosted, as Joe Offer says, by Xerox... then Dick G found Max, and AWAY we went.

Has Bert Hansell posted recently? I see him on FB...

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 09:37 PM

I'm a newcomer, only here since December 2003.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 09:50 PM

Gee, looking at these comments, I get the impression that some of us must be REALLY old! No wonder we're so crotchety...

I remember when Dick was still willing to distribute the Digital Tradition on single-sided floppy disks. How much data did those things hold?

I downloaded my first copy of the DT from the "files" area of Celebration Station, a dialup computer bulletin board (BBS) run by Noel Paul Stookey at Ellsworth, Maine. I think that was long before Dick moved to the Xerox site on the World Wide Web.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Stewie
Date: 11 Mar 18 - 11:20 PM

My first post was September 1999. I think I lurked for bit before that.

--Stewie.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 12:02 AM

As a registered member October of 2001, as a guest some time before that, 2000, possibly 1999.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 04:18 AM

Yes - I had submitted files to the Digital Tradition shortly betore Max took in that homeless wanderer.

Regards

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 04:36 AM

I am quite a 'Newbie' as a member - August 2002 , but was a guest for a while before that !!

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 04:39 AM

1998 under another "handle"
RtS

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: treewind
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 05:05 AM

First post April 2002.
I suspect, though, that many who were posting then aren't now. I don't visit Mudcat as often as I used to, and the list of recent postings is much shorter than it used to be.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Will Fly
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 06:32 AM

I'm just a baby - not yet into my teens. My first post was on 8th August 2008 - not quite 10 years ago - when I asked for info about the Robert Johnson who accompanied dulcimer player Roger Nicholson on their album, "Nonesuch for Dulcimer".

I got my information, and a very funny reply from a certain Greg Stephens (The Boat Band) - only to realise that it was the same Greg Stephens I'd played blues duets with back in the mid-1960s and lost touch with!

Such was the beauty of Mudcat then. I post far less these days, mainly because I have other things to do, but also because many of the people who posted then have gone from Mudcat - one way or another.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,Mick Pearce, MCP
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 06:46 AM

Joined in 2005, but lurked and posted occasionally as guest from 2001.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: JennieG
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 06:52 AM

Definitely 2000, but not quite sure of the month.....May rings a bell. Still here, still reading, still posting from time to time.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Iains
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 07:07 AM

My first post was in '99. I made a request for info on two Irish Songs.
Despite my appalling "phonetic" irish mudcat members deciphered my request and responded in detail within 24 hours. Very impressive.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: rich-joy
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 09:14 AM

Under my moniker, from October 2001, but Guest-posted and lurked before that, encouraged by Stewie!!

Cheers!
Rich-Joy
Down Under

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 11:00 AM

First post as Guest:- June 2001. Became a member in January 2002.

DC

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 03:59 PM

Hi Allison,
I'm working with a group of women who are interested in recording "If Every Woman in the World." Like you, we want to be sure that Karen MacKay is properly credited and properly remunerated. How can we get in touch with her????
Any contact info you can provide would be so much appreciated!
Thank you, in advance,
Vicki Ryder (Durham, North Carolina)

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 04:13 PM

I've been here since 1998, I think. Or was it '97? I can blame Jeri for sucking me in, I mean, introducing me. Curmudgeon (Tom Hall) followed shortly.

I was originally Linn the Thanatolithologist (Jeri had lured me in with a gravestone symbolism thread), but I became Bat Goddess because of the nursery colony of Little Brown Bats that set up housekeeping in the roof space above the ceiling and started posting to music and folklore threads.

Linn

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Ian
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 04:23 PM

I am a 99er.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 04:33 PM

Only 15years, next month...


Subject: RE: Mudcat Poetry Corner
From: beardedbruce - PM
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 02:04 PM


I had been on earlier, but not posting. Seems like it was worthwhile just reading and getting decent information, back then.

I was involved with DT back when it was 4 floppies...

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 04:34 PM

BG, that's some really clever bats. Have they set up their own company yet?

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Max
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 04:51 PM

First posted on October 1, 1996 but I was a lurker for a year before that. :)

Then I started posting under a different name on January 4, 1997 at 1:41pm...

...or was that someone else? Memory is a bit fuzzy in them years... too much medicine.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Jeri
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 06:08 PM

Linn, your first post was 3 Aug 99.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Brakn
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 07:51 PM

June 1998 is the first that I can find thouh I did use other names like Mick and others before setling for brakn in Jan 1999.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 07:56 PM

Joe said above: Gee, looking at these comments, I get the impression that some of us must be REALLY old! No wonder we're so crotchety...

...I used to think that Max was just a young squirt, but now I'm thinking that "old and crotchety" applies even to him...my son is about the same age, and I tease him about his getting old and set in his ways while I'm still an irresponsible hippie. He's rather sensitive about that, but he's still far more responsible and mature than I am...

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 08:02 PM

October 1999. But I lurked for a while after meeting Bill Sables.

Mudgaurd! How are you Andreas?

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Mick Lowe
Date: 12 Mar 18 - 09:55 PM

Mick Brakn you are still on here.. wonderful. Coincidentally June 1998 was when I first started begging for lyrics from the good folks here on Mudcat.. Durham Gaol if I remember correctly.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Jos
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 05:21 AM

Am I missing something? Max spent a year lurking on a thread that didn't then exist? Strange things going on in cyberspace - and/or in the minds of posters-yet-to-be who were dreaming of wonders still to be created?

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: DaveRo
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 06:37 AM

I notice that some of the early denizens if mudcat also inhabited rec.music.folk - example. Did mudcat fulfil a need that r.m.f couldn't meet? Was usenet unavailable or unfamiliar to a new 'generation' of internet users? Just curious - I'm interested in how internet technologies evolve.

Here in the UK we had uk.music.folk but that died in the late 2000's. Some of the people on u.m.f are here on mudcat: rollcall.

I'd known of mudcat for years - it was often referred to on u.m.f - but I assumed it was an exclusively U.S. site and never followed the forum. It was only after the BBC closed their Folk and Acoustic messageboards that I looked in here.

I still prefer usenet to most web forums, and still use it daily - but sadly no longer for folk music.

Sorry - somewhat off topic, but hopefully of interest.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,John from Kemsing
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 06:59 AM

We have lost so many of the good ones in the past sixteen years, the banter, and craic between them was often entertaining.

We will never forget the late Don Thompson, KatLaughing. Ardmhacha and Fred McCormick.

May they all rest in peace.

Sometimes the cat is a little too serious now

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 07:12 AM

Am I missing something? Max spent a year lurking on a thread that didn't then exist? Strange things going on in cyberspace ....

Even stranger is the comment:

Then I started posting under a different name on January 4, 1997 at 1:41pm...

Are Max and Gargoyle one and the same?

DC

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 09:38 AM

I think I started using Mudcat (as a guest) at Bruce Olson's suggestion. When did he start?

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 10:35 AM

Vicki, GUEST Date: 12 Mar 18 - 03:59 PM :

You can join here, then send me a personal message, or find me on my website www.huntandallison.net and click "Contact Us," or just email me at huntandallison AT gmail . com- I have the information you seek.


And that's why I have never dropped the "Animaterra" from my name, even though I retired 3 years ago as director of the chorus I founded.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 10:36 AM

And this is my first post after signing up as a member, from 25 February 1999:

https://mudcat.org/detail.cfm?messages__Message_ID=60260

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 11:13 AM

DaveRo... alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.folk still has a semi-live group of posters. Right now there seems to be several posting some early "folk scare" stuff from the 60s... Kingston Trio, Tarriers, Limelighters, Baez... etc.
Depending on your provider that group can have things dating back several years.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: DaveRo
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 11:46 AM

Bill: I've never used binaries. My current ISP doesn't support them. uk.music.folk was used for much the same stuff as here: questions, event notifications, radio/TV alerts, bickering... I expect rec.music.folk was the same, but I didn't read it.

In the UK many ISPs stopped providing usenet about 10 years ago - I had to use eternal september for a while. Do US ISPs still offer it?

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 12:29 PM

DaveRo.. my ISP quit doing ANY newsgroups several years ago. I simply pay a few dollars a month to Giganews and get my access. There's so much competition that prices have come down...

It just depends on one's needs

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Joe_F
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 05:48 PM

AFAIK, Verizon still supports some newsgroups, but only ones in the hierarchies it considers respectable. I moved over to Eternal September when that happened, and still use it without difficulty.

rec.music.folk still exists, but there is almost nothing on it. It used to be lively. For a while, I thought of the Mudcat Cafe as the monster that ate rec.music.folk, but I have gotten used to it. I appreciate its complete archiving, but its unstructured threads still annoy me occasionally.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 06:25 PM

Max owns and runs Mudcat; Gargoyle was a member who got kicked out a long time ago though he has been invited back (he has a really sharp tongue; his posts are conspicuous by their tiny colored italicized signature lines). He still adds many fine music posts and seems to prefer the current arrangement.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,catyronwode
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 07:00 PM

I have been posting here on and off since 1998 -- but i have never created a log-in. At first i thought you had to be invited and to jump through approval-hoops to get a name, and i am naturally shy and diffident, so i just posted as GUEST.

To this day, most of the time i am just GUEST but sometimes i use guest-names that contain variants of my real name, such as catherineyronwode / catyronwode / catyron / catanna.

I found Mudcat via rec.music.folk in usenet, but i left usenet around 2002 due to its non-moderated condition. I post in all sorts of folk music, acoustic blues, model railroad, and folk magic forums and at Facebook, and i am an editor at Wikipedia and at a number of other wiki-like sites, including one on fortune telling tea cups. .

I come here less frequently than i go to my other hang-out sites, simply because i don't need lyrics all that often and i have never "made friends" here. Still, Mudcat is always my go-to site for lyrics help. The disorganization of the threads does bother me, but the site is FREE and OPEN, so i love it!

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 08:30 PM

Max owns and runs Mudcat; Gargoyle was a member who got kicked out a long time ago .............................(he has a really sharp tongue; his posts are conspicuous by their tiny colored italicized signature lines). ..............

I know that but Max said that he started posting under a different name. The only post that is listed for the time and date given was Gargoyle's first post as a member.

He did go on to say "...or was that someone else?". It would seem that Max was having a little joke.

DC

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: bbc
Date: 13 Mar 18 - 09:23 PM

My son David & I started the members pages in April, 1999, so I guess that counts as being around. I, mostly, lurk, now & follow the Mudcat Facebook page.

Best,

bbc

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 14 Mar 18 - 07:23 AM

I was around then.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Mar 18 - 11:13 AM

I posted, but not regularly.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Little Robyn
Date: 15 Mar 18 - 03:45 AM

I was lurking here and Digitrad before but my first post as Little Robyn was January 2003. 2,796 posts later, I don't visit often but use the Facebook site instead.
Robyn

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Mar 18 - 08:15 AM

I'm a baby here, still to celebrate my eleventh birthday. My first post was to ask Lucy in Bude (aka Hawker) about the upcoming 2007 Bude folk festival. Pleased to say that the Spring Bank Holiday folk festival in Bude (that's the bank holiday at the end of May) is still going strong. I see that Hawker hasn't posted here for quite a while.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: sian, west wales
Date: 15 Mar 18 - 08:43 PM

I've been around since at least that long.   Abby Sale introduced me, I think. I've been on a remote fringe for the last 7 years or so, but I have peeped in during that time.

sian west wales
(although no longer west wales - back in the Niagara Peninsula now)

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Mar 18 - 12:41 AM

Ah! Abby Sale - the source of lots of interesting tidbits.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jul 23 - 11:23 AM

Pretty sure I did a lot (the bulk) of my posting in like 2000 and thereabouts.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Charmion
Date: 01 Jul 23 - 01:09 PM

I’m still here after well north of twenty years.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Charmion
Date: 01 Jul 23 - 02:19 PM

By gum, I made my first post on 15 June 1999!

And I lurked a fair while before I dared break cover.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Maryrrf
Date: 01 Jul 23 - 02:48 PM

My first post was in January 2001, but I'd been lurking for at least a year. Mudcat had a "Golden Age" where it was a real community. Just being a 'Catter was like belonging to an exclusive club - only it wasn't exclusive. It was open to everyone. I miss those days, and I especially miss the many 'Catters who've passed on. At some point, things started deteriorating, and a lot of people, including me, dropped out and moved on to places like Facebook. Facebook will never replace the old Mudcat - but Mudcat as it is now is only a shadow of what it once was. I do stop by and lurk occasionally, just for old time's sake.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Helen
Date: 01 Jul 23 - 03:28 PM

Maryrrf, I agree.

There used to be a sense of community, and although there were sometimes differences of opinion, there was usually respect and often quirky humour, and different viewpoints of other people often created opportunities to possibly change our own viewpoints or broaden our knowledge.

I remember a lot of the people who have either sadly passed away, or moved away from Mudcat for various reasons.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 01 Jul 23 - 03:57 PM

'Sixteen years ago' from March 2018?
Yes, that would include me.

First post (other than as 'Guest') 27 Feb '02

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Jul 23 - 04:16 PM

Well, I started in January 1997, but Bill D and a few others were before me.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 02 Jul 23 - 02:54 AM

Jim Carroll, and what a loss he is to this site
Gargoyle.
Captain Birdseye

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Jul 23 - 03:29 AM

I wish Jim were back, too, but he couldn't live with our terms.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jul 23 - 10:29 AM

I predate 2004.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,Wally Macnow
Date: 02 Jul 23 - 11:39 AM

I signed on as Guest about the same time that Dick Greenhaus got involved. He eventually bought Camsco Music from me.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 02 Jul 23 - 12:56 PM

Pretty sure I came here around 2003 or 2004, but the first few years under a different pseudonym. I’ve been posting as Backwoodsman since (I think) 2007.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Jul 23 - 02:34 PM

Backwoodsman:

First posting as BW 13 May 2007. You can find it from 'personal pages => 'Click for your list of posted messages' => scroll to the bottom and click 'posts starting with oldest'

Cheers

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 02 Jul 23 - 03:36 PM

Thanks Nigel! I did think it was 2007 when I became ‘Backwoodsman’ (a response to Diane Easby’s vain attempts to insult me, a group of my friends, and Lincolnshire generally). I was someone else for some time before that.

I learn something new every day - thanks for today’s bit of education. ;-)

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 02 Jul 23 - 04:41 PM

Looking back, 1999 seems to be one of my first posts.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: RTim
Date: 02 Jul 23 - 05:24 PM

It seems my first post was 6th April 2006....so that is 17 years ago....

Tim Radford

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Jul 23 - 07:19 PM

One Hundred!

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Helen
Date: 02 Jul 23 - 07:37 PM

No, Nigel, it's 10142. LOL

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: NightWing
Date: 02 Jul 23 - 09:41 PM

Looks like the first post listed for me is from 2000 Sep 25.

I remember looking at my post list sometime early in that decade and thinking that I had been posting (under my current handle) before the turn of the century. Obviously, *now* I don't know for certain; I just remember thinking it. Could've been posting as a Guest *shrug*

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 03 Jul 23 - 07:01 AM

... Mudcat as it is now is only a shadow of what it once was. .....

.......".......

Maryrrf, I agree.

There used to be a sense of community, and although there were sometimes differences of opinion, there was usually respect and often quirky humour, and different viewpoints of other people often created opportunities to possibly change our own viewpoints or broaden our knowledge.


You mean back in the happy days of Gargoyle, Martin Gibson and team Musket? I think you are looking back through rose coloured glasses.

If you want to know if things will be worse in the future than they are today, ask your grandmother.

DC

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Jul 23 - 02:03 PM

Note: I first posted in Nov. 1996, about thread 30-40. Mudcat will be 27 this Fall.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Helen
Date: 03 Jul 23 - 04:02 PM

Doug Chadwick, rose coloured glasses do not work when the evidence is there in black and white. Mudcat discussions from 27 years ago and onwards are still available to read.

The negative posts are a very minor percentage compared with the overwhelming majority of positive posts over the decades here which has been the cornerstone of that sense of community.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jul 23 - 04:55 PM

Folk music consists of nurturing the flame, not worshipping the ashes.
The same is true of Mudcat, no it is not the same as it was, nothing is and I know I'm not.
Yes there was some nastiness shit stirring and cruel messages, but there were good things too. We still have the same flour eggs milk and sugar we're just making different pancakes.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 03 Jul 23 - 05:11 PM

My first post as a member is dated 14 May 1999, but I posted as a guest for a couple of years before that. Can't remember my handle, but we got internet access in the office in autumn 1996. I soon found Mudcat but couldn't join because I was officially forbidden to use the Internet for purposes other than the job. In May '99 I got found out and had to get access from home ...

My interests shifted away from folk music after c. 2010 and I didn't look in very often, but this is changing again.

Nice to be reminded of all those Mudcatters who contributed in the early years - and really surprising how many are still here!

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Jul 23 - 06:01 PM

Well I first posted just 16 years ago. I've always been just me under my real name. There hasn't really been the Golden Age that a few folks here are lamenting. There's just been Mudcat with good music input and a touch of the Wild West with occasional true horrors, the conflicts mostly avoidable for those who find them unpalatable, but even the BS section has often had some really good stuff. Max was appealing for calm over 20 years ago, lest we forget. Anyway.

I'm glad that Joe mentioned Jim. Jim was head and shoulders above almost everyone else here in terms of his depth of knowledge of traditional song. He was goaded like mad by several people who are still here and who are far lesser lights than he is, and he paid the price by being unable to hold himself back from responding negatively. Even my chief buddies here (no names...) disagree with me about Jim, but I found him to be a really good-hearted chap with far more to offer than just about everyone else here and I miss his contributions. As I said, anyway...

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Jul 23 - 06:16 PM

About Jim Carroll, Steve Shaw says I found him to be a really good-hearted chap with far more to offer than just about everyone else here and I miss his contributions.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Jul 23 - 12:41 AM

I gave Bob Nelson (Deckman on Mudcat) a call yesterday to see how he and Judy are doing. Though he's virtually blind at this point he still gets out and plays music in his apartment complex and seems to be enjoying life. It was Bob and Don Firth who sent me emails in the early days telling me I should check out Mudcat, that there was a discussion about my late father (John Dwyer). That was probably 1999. I've had a couple of names here, and posted as a guest at first.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 04 Jul 23 - 05:56 AM

Started posting in April 2004.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 04 Jul 23 - 06:11 AM

'About Jim Carroll..'

I spoke to Jim yesterday, he is on good enough form and tipping away.


During the winter John Tunney gave a presentation locally, about an interview he conducted with Jim about the collecting and research. That night too, Jim was chatty and happy to share his knowledge and experiences.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,drWord
Date: 04 Jul 23 - 05:06 PM

Wow! I love “pure interest” !
After a couple of “server errors” in the DT
found my first “contribution” in May ‘97
Makes one feel blessed that the forum has
Lasted, that the DT exists.
Along with Frank Ford’s frets(dot)com
I’ve been spreading mudcat ORG ever since.
Long thread: will read the entire but always
neat when a thread with deep(ish) roots is
refreshed. The early-birds’ handles!
Kindest regards to “you all” who know so
very well that music is oxygen and that
LIVE music is best.
Dennis    Manitoba Canada

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Jul 23 - 05:30 PM

Jim was always very expansive in sharing his knowledge here. He often named the names of the illustrious and the legendary who he knew upclose and personal, but not once did I ever regard any of it as name-dropping. He is absolutely entitled to his musical opinions because they are exceptionally informed opinions. He and I always got on like a house on fire both in the forum and in private messages. He did have the unfortunate habit of relating the same jokes in the joke threads again and again, a trait which, sadly, I appear to have inherited. Next time you see him, Peter, give him my warmest regards.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Helen
Date: 04 Jul 23 - 05:34 PM

GUEST,drWord, regarding your comment that music is oxygen, I often see a large delivery truck in my area which has a statement painted on the front, in big letters: Without music, there is no soul.

It makes me smile whenever I see it.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Jul 23 - 04:24 PM

Jim Carroll is posting regularly in one forum on Traditional Ballads on Facebook. He still has strong opinions about 'traditional', *grin*, but has a wealth of knowledge of the genre. Fortunately, I pretty much agree with his definition of the category. I guess I'm doing all right, because I posted a link to a song by a singer that he was not familiar with, and called it "a breath of fresh air".

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Jul 23 - 04:30 PM

No Facebook for me. Oh well.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Jul 23 - 07:46 PM

It's both useful and maddening..like many things.

I have reconnected with many friends there and learned a lot... and dodged a few things.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,Deni-C
Date: 06 Jul 23 - 03:43 AM

I was...

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: David C. Carter
Date: 06 Jul 23 - 09:38 AM

Me too.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Cool Beans
Date: 06 Jul 23 - 10:02 AM

I'm still here. Have been since 1998 0r '99. Haven't posted much lately but I'm reading. When I have something to say, I'll post it.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 06 Jul 23 - 10:42 AM

22 years ago last Sunday (2nd July) I made my first post apparently.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Jul 23 - 11:06 AM

Made my first post on December 14, 1999 under a different handle and lurked awhile before that.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,R J M
Date: 06 Jul 23 - 03:10 PM

SteveShaw,I [NOT Joe] was the person who first posted about Jim

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jul 23 - 04:02 PM

I'm still glad that Joe mentioned him.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,RJM
Date: 06 Jul 23 - 04:17 PM

And i am glad too, in fact "iam glad all over" that we both mentioned him

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Tiger
Date: 07 Jul 23 - 12:56 PM

Since 1996 for me.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 07 Jul 23 - 07:59 PM

TIGER


I was ready to cry ... BULLSHIT

However,

   I find we were on similar "use.net" alt forums at the same time.

No doubt it brought kindred souls together.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Some sow
Some thrash
    Some reap

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Jul 23 - 02:14 AM

Tiger!! Nice to see you!!!

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Ritchie
Date: 08 Jul 23 - 10:27 AM

I think my first post was 14-Oct-98 - 03:17 AM .... Great to see so many familiar names which conjure up some lovely memories ... nice to be 'back'
love & regards to you all.

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: GUEST,Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 09 Jul 23 - 06:48 AM

First post Dec 01

Subject: RE: Purely out of interest-who was posting 16 yr ago?
From: Tiger
Date: 09 Jul 23 - 11:50 AM

Thanks, Garg & Joe.

I seldom post now, but am watching all the time.