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BS: What's out and what's in

Senoufou 23 Mar 18 - 12:26 PM
Dave the Gnome 23 Mar 18 - 10:45 AM
Mr Red 23 Mar 18 - 10:22 AM
Senoufou 23 Mar 18 - 07:49 AM
Dave the Gnome 23 Mar 18 - 05:00 AM
Senoufou 23 Mar 18 - 03:53 AM
Dave the Gnome 23 Mar 18 - 03:47 AM
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Mr Red 23 Mar 18 - 03:28 AM
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Jos 22 Mar 18 - 09:55 AM
Jon Freeman 22 Mar 18 - 09:22 AM
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Charmion 22 Mar 18 - 09:13 AM
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Jon Freeman 22 Mar 18 - 08:43 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 12:26 PM

I just took out some Life Insurance on the phone yesterday, and the very helpful chap went through the health questions. There were ten of them, and seemed very concerned with smoking. Did I smoke? Had I ever smoked? Had I taken drugs such as cocaine, ever smoked cannabis?

Then he turned to alcohol. How many units per week? Had I ever been in rehab? (!!) Had I ever been arrested for drink-related offences?
As the answers to this lot was "No", I was left thinking I've led a very mundane life. Perhaps I ought to have kicked my heels up a bit more and got blind drunk while smoking weed.

Then had I ever tried to commit suicide? (not yet!)

But lastly, how fat was I? (not exactly his phrasing) and what dress size? Strangely, he decided I was 'overweight' but not 'obese'. Phew!

All this shows what many people must do - drinking, smoking, drug-taking and so on. These activities must be nearing the 'in' category, sadly.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 10:45 AM

I may not be that good looking or talented or athletic or, errr, where was I going with this, errr

I know. I like bacon!

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Mr Red
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 10:22 AM

Monitor your short term memory. It fades as you age, but there is plenty of apocryphal evidence that a potential side effect of statins is memory problems. If I remember rightly, er, what was the question?

One regular at Folk Festivals took himself off statins because he realised he was becoming diabetic. Another known potential side effect.

Of course it would help if you chose your parents well.............


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 07:49 AM

I shall bear in mind what you say Dave. It's worth considering. I must try not to be so dismissive and keep an open mind!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 05:00 AM

It is the benefits to the vascular system that are the biggest draw. As well as helping to avoid strokes and heart attacks they assist in preventing vascular dementia. Both my parents had high fat, low exercise later lives and both ended up with blood pressure and heart issues as well as vascular dementia brought on by restriction of blood vessels. If anything can help avoid that without nasty side effects it is a no brainer really. Don't rule them out on a whim but, as ever, you need to do what is right for you.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 03:53 AM

Ah, hope they can sort it out Dave. Having nosebleeds is rather disconcerting.
I have a friend who's 91. She was recently told she needs statins to reduce her cholesterol. She laughed her head off, and told the doctor if he lived as long as her, he'd be doing all right.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 03:47 AM

I am recently on statins, Eliza. If you do not get side effects they really do benefit you in all sorts of ways. The only effect I have had, and I am speaking to the doc about it today, is the occasional nose bleed!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 03:34 AM

At my last MOT the practice nurse burbled on about 'good' cholesterol levels (mine are high-ish) and 'bad' cholesterol levels (mine are low)
Never heard such a load of old tosh in my life, but I sat smiling benignly as I really like her, she's so fat and jolly.

Shortly after that, a new severe lady (not sure of her role) wanted to see me, and said I need to go on statins. They seem to be 'in' at the moment, and I bet the drug companies are rubbing their hands and their bosses booking trips to Barbados. I said I jolly well wouldn't (best 'naughty girl attitude') and she wasn't terribly pleased. She looked as if she'd like to give me detention or 100 lines.

As you say, people have dairy-farmed for millennia, and we're well able to cope with milk, butter and cheese. It's all the processed rubbish that's not good for us.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Mr Red
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 03:28 AM

the BT NotSo Hotspot I use, forces me to ignore such delightful propositions like:

What are chia seeds and how do you eat them? - assuming there is an imperative somehow.

And adverts for equity release are, effectively, even more pejorative. They don't tell you it is a loan - with interest - plus a stake in the inflationary price of your house! "Loose, Loose" is not their mantra!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Mr Red
Date: 23 Mar 18 - 03:20 AM

All that cholesterol! (which is definitely 'out' isn't it?)

Weeeeeellllll ............. modern thinking is that butter is better than no butter. Going for the wrong cholesterol all the time produces hard deposits on yer arteries, which don't dissolve easily.

If you think about it: humanity has had domestic dairy animals for about 10,000 years (say 30,000+ generations) and evolution favoured those tolerant of lactose products.

Like all things culinary/medical it is a question of balance, and quantity. Coloric restriction has benefits, but it ain't much fun - definitely a cult in and by a majority vote - out.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Jos
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 09:55 AM

Butter is definitely now 'in', as are lard (good levels of omega 3) and goose fat (liquid at body temperature so unlikely to block arteries).
I start my potatoes in the microwave to save time and then finish in the oven, and eat with LOTS of butter and a sprinkling of chives.
If the potatoes have messy (scabby) skins I peel them and have mash. For mashed potatoes a ricer, like a huge garlic crusher, produces light and fluffy potato but extra washing up, so I usually don't bother.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 09:22 AM

Wow, Charmion, I've not heard of anything like that! We do sometimes get a bag (maybe 1Kg) of supermarket "baby potatoes" though. Just wash and boil.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 09:14 AM

Each to their own there, S. I'm a fussy (lamb - yuk, fat - yuk...) meat eater living with 2 vegetarians. I could cater more for myself with meat cooked to my own liking but I rarely miss it and things are simpler this way. Did have bacon and chips last week though and I do enjoy a turkey meal at Christmas.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Charmion
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 09:13 AM

I am an unrepentant potato snob. Russets -- dark-skinned and sort of oblong -- are for baking in the oven; the round white or pink jobs are for boiling; and the yellow-fleshed type (often called Yukon Gold even if they aren't of that precise variety) are for nuking and any cookery method involving high heat and fat, such as roasting in duck dripping or goose grease. There is also a blue-fleshed type, once common in the Maritime provinces, but they are ridiculously expensive at the supermarket. Much better to grow your own, as your granny from Chignecto might have done.

Potatoes usually get nuked at our house, then popped into the toaster-oven to simulate baking in the real oven, so I usually get the yellow kind.

The "in" potatoes around here are about the size of gob-stoppers and sold in twee little zip-lock bags that hold less than a kilo. Each bag contains three colours: pink (called Cardinal), white, and blue. You know you're dining with the foodies when they hit your plate.

If you had told me 30 years ago that I would live in a time of fashionable potatoes, I would have thought you were smoking dope.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 09:05 AM

Oooh Dave I love you XXXXX!!! I've always felt the same about full milk, butter, cream and lard. If they're natural (not processed or trans fats) then they're OK. I just couldn't live on Benecol, skimmed milk, vegetarian Quorn, vegetable oil and so on. I seem to be doing alright so far!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 08:45 AM

No, butter and potatoes are both good natural products and are in but I suspect 4 portions would be frowned upon!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 08:43 AM

I don't know a Spud-U-Like, S (and haven't been into Norwich in over a year, and much longer than that day time - main reason for going to the city is an Irish session - something we hope to get back to a few times this year).

We do still grow a few meals worth of a new or salad type of potato. It's nice to have some of your own.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 08:29 AM

Potatoes were just potatoes when I was a girl. But my father and I used to work on our allotment and we got most of our spuds that way. (New potatoes in Spring and Summer, then old ones stored in a sack in the shed)
We like browsing around our two shopping malls in Norwich for hours (a lovely modern idea, as one is protected from the cold) and they each have a Spud-U-Like. (which we do indeed like!) I've never noticed how they bake their spuds. Is it in a giant microwave, or an oven? I always grab four butter pats to have with mine. All that cholesterol! (which is definitely 'out' isn't it?)


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 08:03 AM

I don't remember specific "baking potaoes" in the past, S but we do get them now. Peter used to part boil then oven. Pip microwaves them. I've not done any in a while...

I'd have thought the electric hand blender difficult to get started with the spuds Dave? An alternative to the masher I have is a food mill (bought to process a glut of tomatoes one year...). It does a nice job but by the time I've got it out of the cupboard and dismantling and washing afterwards, I'd rather the plain hand masher.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 07:51 AM

I remember having to save up from my shilling a week spends to buy a chocolate 'smokers set' from the posh shop up the road. I cannot remember what was in it but chocolate cigars formed part of it. Parents did not mind in them days!

On the subject of mash - Can it be done with an electric hand blender or would it be too difficult to stop it going too sloppy?

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 07:41 AM

I used to love those sherbet fountains Jos. But did you ever suck too hard through the liquorice tube and choke yourself with the sherbet powder? I used to do that regularly!

We had (real) mashed potato last night. My husband added his Spicy Horror sauce and I had lean mince with mine. But it is indeed a bit fatiguing Jon to have to peel the spuds and then mash them. It must be hard if one has arthritis.
I see that baking potatoes are 'in', and I suppose people microwave them too. We boil or roast ours.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Jos
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 07:30 AM

I never liked liquorice allsorts, but I did like the liquorice straws in the tubes of sherbet.

As for advertising, it always strikes me as a bit dubious when products are advertised as "As Seen On TV !" as if being promoted (= advertised) on television was a guarantee of quality.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 07:00 AM

OK on to the ins and outs...

We like a good variety of cheese but Edam's never been on our list. Pork pies would only be occasional if we have visitor of a meat eating type. I can't see Pip (or Peter or I) wearing leggins.

Over the last year or so, we became quite reliant on microwave meals and veggie burger things with not much else and are currently on a drive to have more fresh veg now some things are easier.

It does mean me making them suffer a lot more of my cooking though - did Quorn fillets in a sauce/gravy with mash, sprouts and a mix of carrot, turnip and parsnip yesterday.

And I sometimes to give Pip a bit of a hand if she's cooking these days. Which brings me to the mash at the start of the thread... Haven't used it but mashing potatoes is one thing she can't do anymore, or at least not without getting a lot of pain in arthritic hands.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 06:40 AM

I don't remember the make of the liquorice set Jon, but this was over 65 years ago. Oh I did so love that liquorice!

I've noticed that supermarkets now have a complete aisle dedicated to microwaveable ready-meals. And of course, 'takeaway' food is very much 'in'. This is obviously a reflection of the fact that people work and when they come home they're too tired to cook from scratch. I understand that, but the ready-meals look pretty dire, and are very expensive for what they are.

My poor mother worked full time when I was about ten, yet she (and I when I got home from school!) cooked from scratch or batch-cooked. No microwaves then. We did occasionally have fish and chips though.

I've been watching with a bit more interest the TV ads (I normally hit the silent button on the remote) and they're linked to what's 'in', as one would expect. No sooner has a new product come on the TV than there it is, prominently displayed on the shelves of the supermarkets. I wonder how much people are influenced by the advertising, or do they reflect sensibly as to whether they really need this stuff?


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 06:29 AM

That sounds like the Barratts selection box my father was given for his birthday this year. We both thought it was pretty awful.

I guess tastes vary but this is tas good as I’ve had.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: G-Force
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 06:11 AM

My dad used to like Browns Barley Kernels, and I used to absolutely love them. I think they're unavailable now, rather than just out of fashion.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 05:18 PM

That's good to know Nigel. I'll keep my eyes open for some in the shops in Norwich.
When I was very small, my dear old grandfather, who wasn't very well-off, sent me a lovely little Birthday present of a liquorice set called Smokey Joe. In it were liquorice pipes, sweet cigarettes and a liquorice watch. I've never forgotten it or his kindness. He'd survived the trenches in WW1 and spoke incomprehensible Geordie.

There's a lot to learn about molasses and sugar refining isn't there? And what's NOT 'in' at the moment is sugar!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 04:55 PM

Liquorice cigars:
Still available. I bought a cheap 'Selection Box' of liquorice from our local 'Home Bargains' just before Christmas. It had liquorice cigars, liquorice watches, liquorice Catherine wheels, liquorice traffic lights, & liquorice twists.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Mr Red
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 03:55 PM

molasses is quite strong, and as I understand it largely devoid of invert sugar. Molasses also has a more turgid texture. Whereas treacle (Black) has a similar consistency to treacle (Golden Syrup). Treacle (Black) is less refined, though since Tate & Lyle bought up Blackies and Fowlers - I suspect it is just golden syrup and molasses, rather than cane sugar residues. Unless you keep the tin too long then it has a soupcon of ferric oxide and is realy bitter. I sent one back to T&L for analysis and got a 5GBP voucher to spend (worth about 4 tins). Never heard the outcome of the tin though. If it wasn't bad treacle manufacturing, it would have been poor plating.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Jos
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 02:06 PM

We used to make treacle toffee for bonfire night (five days after Hallowe'en) - we had a special little toffee hammer to break it up, because it was so hard.

My Oxford Dictionary says that treacle is "a - syrup produced in refining sugar. b - molasses".


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 02:00 PM

Oh Charmion, liquorice cigars! And those 'sweet cigarettes' with pinky-coloured ends! This is turning into a nostalgia fest, but I used to go mad for liquorice skipping ropes (about a yard long) One end went in the mouth, and you chewed your way along it while reading the Beano and the Dandy comics. All that for sixpence (a bit over 2p)

Is liquorice still available? I bet anything you like that 'pretend' cigarettes are non-PC nowadays.
Wonder which sweets are now 'in'?


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Charmion
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 12:00 PM

A typical supermarket in eastern Canada stocks three grades of molasses for different uses. Fancy molasses is for drizzling on porridge, buttered bread, pancakes or Johnny-cake. Cooking molasses (thicker, darker and less sweet) is for baking -- Boston brown bread, gingerbread, crybaby cookies, pouding chomeur -- and for baked beans (feves au lard). Blackstrap molasses, the crudest grade, can be substituted for cooking molasses in any recipe but its high acidity gives it a distinctive taste that some people find a bit startling.

Molasses toffee is sold for Hallowe'en, though I'm told that it's not popular with modern kids so it will probably soon disappear -- like the liquorice cigar, I suppose. I loved molasses toffee as a child, and liquorice cigars! I wouldn't say no to one now, as it happens.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 11:51 AM

My late Scottish friend, Adam, rest his soul, always referred to treacle in his Glasgow accent, as 'black trickle'.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 11:19 AM

That's it Charmion, I'd forgotten that word 'molasses'. Tate and Lyle do Black Treacle in a lovely red, old-fashioned tin, and Golden Syrup in a green tin.
Our much-loved Liverpool comedian Ken Dodd lived at Knotty Ash (a real place!) and invented people called the Diddymen, who apparently mined treacle down the treacle mines (and jam butties too) He died very recently.
It sounds as if you have an excellent choice of different foods from many nations over there. Rural places such as where you now live often have lovely fresh, farm-reared/produced food.
Whether they're 'in' or 'out' those sorts of food will always be favourite with me.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Charmion
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 10:45 AM

I think what you Brits call treacle (the black stuff) is what we on this side of the Herring Pond call molasses. My favourite fruitcake recipe came from a Tate & Lyle's treacle tin, but the flavour was quite unaffected when I substituted blackstrap molasses, having used up all the treacle.

The spring tonic my father called "brimstone and treacle" -- a home remedy for anaemia -- is known here as "sulfur and molasses".

Having recently moved across our very large province, from a big city with strong French-Irish-Scots roots to a largely rural county with mostly English and German foodways, I am constantly on the hunt for new foods, and for foods that I have heard or read about but never seen before. For example, the Stratford area has at least six shops that offer British sweets and delicacies, a Serbian butcher who sells the most luscious smoked pork chops (Kaessler) that I have ever seen, and several Mennonite providers of eggs, cheeses, baked goods, preserves and handicrafts. Farm-gate food is big here: not only organic vegetables, but also "heritage" breeds of chickens and ducks, and their eggs.

The organic food business is so big now that the chain supermarkets had to get into the act. Sobey's has whole aisles of products for orthorexics among us, and apparently plenty of people are willing -- nay, eager! -- to pay twice as much for a lemon with a sticker on it that says "organic".


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 08:14 AM

I've noticed that too Mr Red. Syrup isn't treacle. But people seem to think one is a black version of the other. I don't like syrup much, but treacle has that lovely rich taste. I hope it's still 'in' and not 'out'!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Mr Red
Date: 21 Mar 18 - 08:08 AM

of course the modern trend is to call Treacle Black treacle. Treacle is black, the other stuff is GOLDEN SYRUP


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 20 Mar 18 - 04:22 AM

I've been thinking about what drives trends, and haven't mentioned TV advertising. I should imagine it's the main instigator of consumerism.
By the time a wretched ad has been on dozens of times, driving one mad, it's brainwashed the entire nation and they swarm into the shops, where piles of the commodity are ready and waiting.
Even the songs and music of an advert on TV get into one's head, and the brain being what it is, the sight of the product on a supermarket shelf trigger recognition and interest.
I find all this slightly sinister actually.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Jos
Date: 19 Mar 18 - 10:16 AM

When I was a student we used to have black treacle in hot milk as a bedtime drink (this would be after the pub closed).


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Mar 18 - 09:35 AM

Black treacle (in those red tins) adds a lovely colour and flavour to any type of fruit cake. I well remember my mother using a tablespoon to drip the stuff into the cake mixture, and my sister and I waiting for ages so we could lick the spoon!
I noticed a new trend in Tesco this morning. They've started to group stuff under a huge sign that gives a blanket price. For instance, there was a huge selection of big Easter eggs, all at £10. And the bread seemed to be grouped in blocks of 55p a loaf, then £1 a loaf etc.
Perhaps people have a price in mind when they shop (very sensible) and go straight to it like programmed mice.
I wish Vim would be 'in' once more. I do miss that and have to buy it on Amazon. I suppose Cillit Bang is now 'in' instead.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Jos
Date: 19 Mar 18 - 07:17 AM

I use black treacle at this time of year to add to the Simnel cake mix, which makes it darker so that the layer of almond paste shows up nicely.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 Mar 18 - 06:52 AM

That annoys me too, when stores move things around as a ploy to force you to wander the place and hope you impulse buy.

And they never know where to put Black Treacle.

Is it sugar - yes. Is it a baking product - yes. Is it a jam - never - but they don't know that. Is it on special offer so on none of those shelves? (never even at Christmas). Do they even stock it? (at this time of year?)

It's a jungle out there


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Jos
Date: 19 Mar 18 - 05:22 AM

I prefer to go straight to the shelves where the goods I want are kept, so it really annoys me when the shop decides to move everything around - presumably to force customers to wander around looking for what they want and meanwhile happening to see and be tempted by things they would not normally buy.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 19 Mar 18 - 03:11 AM

I think I'm more of a scout Raedwulf, because I don't accumulate much or 'gather', I just like to know what's around and to have a good look at it! ('Nosy' best describes it)

I think my husband tends a little more to a 'hunter', as he likes to have a sensible list and a pen, so he can tick off as we go round with our trolley. He's brilliant at remembering every supermarket and where to find each item.
But he's from a tribe which were hunters so I imagine he was born with this ability!


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Raedwulf
Date: 18 Mar 18 - 09:24 PM

I'm a hunter - I know what I want, go get (what else would you expect from a wulf!) - you are gatherers - what is out there? It takes all sorts to make a tribe! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 18 Mar 18 - 05:26 PM

I'm terrible Raedwulf, I love looking round shops and so does my husband. We spend ages in the big supermarkets just going up and down seeing what's on the shelves. We're not big spenders, but we're big browsers.


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Raedwulf
Date: 18 Mar 18 - 05:11 PM

Definitely a bit of both, Sen. A bit of "Our customers are buying these products, how can we profit", and a bit of "Getting our customers to buy these products, we would make more profit". But first, you need to know exactly what they are buying to start with...

Acme - Much the same thing. If I want snacks or pet foods I'll go to X, but if I want rice... In the UK, it's much easier for the larger chains to undercut the small operator because we're more geographically compact. So the bigger entities try to gobble up the smaller. In the US, I'm guessing, it easier for a smaller chain to compete on the grounds that "we're offering you choice rather than cheap". So Walmart (or whoever) offer you three types of rice dirt cheap because they can buy it so cheap, whereas if you want a certain type of rice, or just a choice in rice...

Economics is only another form of Darwinism. The shark doesn't always win; it's a question of finding a niche, even creating a market that you can fill. But business, in every sector & at every level, is far more razor edge & cut-throat than it was.

Oh and, Sen, the seasonal aisle, to me, is "Oh good. All the crap I can happily ignore in one place..." ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 18 Mar 18 - 02:30 PM

It's a good idea keberoxu. The trouble is, there have been Easter eggs in the Seasonal Aisle for weeks. And those very nice chocolate rabbits, with a little gold bell on a ribbon round their necks. (Lindt chocolate) I keep buying some to put away for our neighbours across the road (they have small children) BUT 'someone' keeps eating them and we have to buy another lot. It isn't my husband as he doesn't like chocolate. It must be the Greedy Chocolate Fairy... :)


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Mar 18 - 02:11 PM

In these United States,
the "seasonal aisle" has been around for years,
especially in those little markets
which are organized around what you Brits call "chemists."

In the US we call them "pharmacies"
and there are chains/franchises of such,
like Walgreens (all over the country),
and CVS (prevalent in the East, next to none further West).


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Subject: RE: BS: What's out and what's in
From: Senoufou
Date: 18 Mar 18 - 01:44 PM

Hahaha Dave!
We quite like this fairly new idea of the 'Seasonal Aisle', where they put all the Easter eggs, Hallowe'en stuff, or Crimbo things in one place. It makes it much easier to choose gifts, cards etc. And of course it encourages people to browse and buy.


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