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Subject: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: alison Date: 21 Dec 99 - 09:29 PM Hi,
Jeri has very generously permitted her wonderful tunes to be heard at Mudcat MIDIs
The following tunes are there
Dragonfly
Thanks Jeri
slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jeri Date: 21 Dec 99 - 09:43 PM Thank you, Alison. Please note that the set of Farewell to Reason/Frosty's Denial was arranged and sequenced by Jon Freeman who, for all his help with MIDI programs, general advice, and being such a nice guy, got a tune named after himself. (Note, Leafpeepers and Trip to Portsmouth have the same second parts. Sorry. I wasn't happy with the A part of one and rewrote it, but now I like the first one better.) |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Alice Date: 21 Dec 99 - 09:57 PM great work, ladies and gentleman |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jon Freeman Date: 21 Dec 99 - 11:58 PM Tell you something, Aside from likeing Jeri's work, I feel quite honoured to have the tune written for me and having my name (and love the tune as well). Jon |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jeri Date: 22 Dec 99 - 09:36 AM Jon, I hoped to do you honor, rather than embarrass you, and it seems I pulled it off. (Can anyone else imagine him playing this somewhere? Someone asking, "Jon, what's that tune called?" Jon replying, "Er...Jon Freeman." Someone - "Nice to meet you, now what's the tune called?")
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Rick Fielding Date: 22 Dec 99 - 12:23 PM Wonderful Jeri. OK, now we got Catspaw's Rag and Jon Freeman. "spose one of us should write "Jeri's Jig", or "Max's March", or perhaps "Alice's Waltz". |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: katlaughing Date: 22 Dec 99 - 12:51 PM I still can't get those midis to play for me. They start to download, but the little counter thingie and rate of download don't register and, after over 3 minutes, I give up. I haven't had any problems with midis anywhere else. Anybody have any ideas? I use MS Internet Explorer, etc. Thanks, katfeelingdeprived |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jon Freeman Date: 22 Dec 99 - 02:39 PM Rick, I've already written Jayne's Jig - if I ever do manage to write a tune for Jeri, I would feel obliged to give it a more imaginative title. Jon |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jeri Date: 22 Dec 99 - 03:01 PM Kat, what program do you use to play midis? (I think if you have Windows, Windows Media Player is the easiest to use.) The files take less than a second to start playing on my computer. This sounds like it may be a problem with your settings. |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: MMario Date: 22 Dec 99 - 03:22 PM I also get them in less then a second. Then if I want to save them I can always do a "save as", but they play automatically in zippo time....
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jon Freeman Date: 22 Dec 99 - 04:12 PM Thinking of titles, I suppose we could have "Jeri Picking Cockles" or "Jeri's Chickens" or "Jeri's Wedding"... I'll have to have a look, I wonder how many "Jenny's" there are. Jon |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jeri Date: 22 Dec 99 - 04:54 PM Watch out, Jon. Catspaw's gonna show up any minute and suggest "Jeri Picking Clams," or "Jeri's Hooters," which, of course, will be followed by "Dragonfly." (Just thought I'd say it before he got the chance.) |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: MMario Date: 22 Dec 99 - 04:58 PM Do you know how long I have sat here "biting my tongue" and prying my fingers off the keyboards....? And Jon's suggestions didn't help, given my tendency to spoonerisms |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: katlaughing Date: 22 Dec 99 - 08:28 PM Jeri, I checked and I have the HP Pavilion Media Rack. Looked for settings, other than volume, etc. and didn't find anything. I do have Windows and I know when I go into the DT and elsewhere, I have no problem getting those to play, and quickly. This is the only one I've ever had problems with. Thanks, kat |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Alan of Australia Date: 22 Dec 99 - 08:58 PM G'day, Kat, I'm not sure what the problem is, a number of people (including me) can't play the files directly from the site. In my case I'm sure it's because of my unusual sound card/software combination. My solution is to right click on the midi file link and choose "save target as" from the menu. That's MS IE. Netscape has a fairly similar menu. It then only takes a second or so to download. Then you can play the file from your hard disc whenever you like. Let me know how you get on.
Cheers,
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Margo Date: 22 Dec 99 - 09:08 PM I also have trouble playing the MIDI's. Darn. We've got MS internet explorer... Margo |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: katlaughing Date: 22 Dec 99 - 11:11 PM Thanks, Alan, but no luck. I use MS IE, too. When I right click on the link of a song, then choose "Save Target As", it starts off as if to download, THEN opens my files for me to tell it where to save it to, THEN it tells me it cannot copy the file! When I left click on the link and tell it to save to disk, it tells me it "can't download the file because it is not available." It also says that could be because of my "Security or Language settings or because the server was unable to retrieve the requested file." I don't have any security or language setting restrictions on here at all, so I don't know what it is talking about. Darn it! I really want to hear these songs! katgoingofftosulk |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jon Freeman Date: 23 Dec 99 - 12:05 AM Kat, are you sure that your security settings have not changed? If you have no special settings and are using IE, it may be worth trying to reset your internet settings to default just in case something has changed that you are not aware of. Jon |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Date: 23 Dec 99 - 02:28 AM Jeri Really nice tunes. I especially like Dragonfly and Farewell to Reason. Gotta start thinking about some words to go with those tunes. How about putting words to Mudcat Jig - any takers? |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jeri Date: 23 Dec 99 - 07:53 AM Thanks for the compliment. When I write a tune, that's all I seem to think about, because I can't sing and play fiddle at the same time. If anyone can come up with words for a song, please do. |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: katlaughing Date: 23 Dec 99 - 09:14 AM Thanks, Jon. I did go back in and reset everything to default setting and it is still doing the same thing. |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 23 Dec 99 - 09:14 PM I'm having the same kind of problems - I've tried playing direct, and when that didn't work, I saved to disk and tried playing with winamp, and Windows Media Player, and also Goldwave and Real Audio, and none of them could manage.
Winamp and Windows Media Player both appeared to play it -Winamp even had the title of the tune come up in the relevant place, and the marker showing them passing went steadily across, but no sound. And yet with other files, all the programmes play fine.
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Barry Finn Date: 23 Dec 99 - 09:54 PM Hi Jeri, you know I'm not gonna work that music thingy out so I'll have to get over to the coast soon. I'll be expecting to hear some of these tunes, & oh by the way would you mind a little back up. See ya then, Barry |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Barry T Date: 25 Dec 99 - 01:42 AM I couldn't resist the temptation... I just had to take a crack at sequencing one of Jeri's tunes... Dragonfly.
A great tune with a lot of imagery. 'Hope I did it justice, Jeri!
Use the midi as you wish. |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jon Freeman Date: 25 Dec 99 - 02:14 AM Barry T, a comment from someone else who has also tried to sequence a couple of Jeri's tunes. I like your arrangement very much, I'd have probably treated it differently but what you have come up with is a lot better than what I would have achieved. Having said that, I think one important thing with Jeri's tunes is that the basic melodies are very good and that gives a lot of scope for arrangements. Just wish I had the brain power... Jon |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: katlaughing Date: 25 Dec 99 - 02:54 AM FINALLY! Thanks BarryT! Now I've at least gotten to hear one of Jeri's tunes. Lovely and haunting. kat |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Barry T Date: 25 Dec 99 - 01:36 PM I agree with Jon... that this tune has amazing versatility. The style I used was something from the 19th century, but when I first heard it I visualized (if you can visualize sound!) something almost Elizabethan. You know: two recorders and a clavinet... music for the courtiers, so to speak.
Then again, if you step up the tempo I could see the lead instrument being a fiddle or even a banjo, backed by rhythm folk guitar.
If Jeri sought to represent in music a dragonfly flitting from plant to plant on a quiet pond, then the notes paint a vivid picture. Good stuff! |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Rick Fielding Date: 25 Dec 99 - 02:53 PM Jon, knock off that stuff about "better!" Different, yes. If everybody heard music the same way, what a boring thing it would be. Barry, I loved what you did with the tune. (I loved what Jon did as well.) I'm still amazed that both of you like it well enough to spend time sequencing it. Truly an honor. Jeri, from Rick's computer (now does anyone want to try the reggae version) |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 26 Dec 99 - 01:27 PM Nope, still won't work for me with Winamp or Windows Media Player, or Goldwave or Real Audio. Very frustrating. |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Mbo Date: 26 Dec 99 - 03:40 PM Hey folks, maybe this will work. I have Quicktime, and the midis load quickly, and play fine. You might try Quicktime and see what happens. --Mbo |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jon Freeman Date: 26 Dec 99 - 04:09 PM If I'm uderstanding things correctly, it sounds as if some of the problems like Kat's are caused by tring to access the files from the Mudcat Midi site. As an experiment, I have put Jeri's tunes at http://members.tripod.co.uk/jonbanjo/Jeri/Jeri.htm to see if they can be played from there. Jon |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jon Freeman Date: 26 Dec 99 - 04:59 PM Regarding Players, I have just downloaded FarewellToReason/Frosty's denial from the Mudcat Midi site and all of the following read the file although some like real which uses its own synth don't sound to good: RealPlayer, QuickTime Player, Cakewalk v3, Cakewalk v8, Media Player (win 95 version), MediaPlayer v6, Noteworthy Composer, Melody Assistant, MIDI2ABC and Muse. I can't see there being any problem with the actual files needing a ceratian player! Jon |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: katlaughing Date: 26 Dec 99 - 08:05 PM Hey, Jon, that works fine! Try it, McGrath! Wherever there is a Mudder, there is a way! Thanks, Jon for the zip file you sent me and for this. Jeri, they sound great! katlaughing&nolongerfrustrated!
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: alison Date: 27 Dec 99 - 03:26 AM Barry... great arrangement... sounds wonderful. Rick when I get my drums sorted out I may have a go at your reggae...... hahahaha slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Little Neophyte Date: 27 Dec 99 - 09:25 AM Thanks Barry and Jon for making Jeri's tunes available. I was also having problems. Jeri they are beautiful! It would have been fun to hear you play along with your own tunes on my computer. I very much enjoy spending time with you yesterday. BB |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jon Freeman Date: 27 Dec 99 - 10:21 AM As placing the tunes on my web space seems to have made them accesible to a few more people, I have added Barry's excellent arrangment of Daragonfly and, assuming that is OK with Jeri, will leave them up there as a temporay meausure until Alan is able to find an answer to whatever the problem is. They are at http://members.tripod.co.uk/jonbanjo/Jeri/Jeri.htm Jon |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Margo Date: 27 Dec 99 - 10:57 AM Thank you Jon! I finally am able to play the MIDIs. Jeri, keep writing! How very enjoyable. I like the Mudcat jig. It is blithe but not exuberant. I was just working last night on some of my songs (written to Robert Louis Stevenson poems). I can't describe the happiness I have when I am composing. So much contentment and satisfaction while I'm being creative. Margo |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 27 Dec 99 - 02:06 PM Everyone else is at the party and I'm still stuck in the cold. Even with Jon's site it doesn't make tye difference.
The programs I've got ionstalled think they are playing the tunes - the little marker mioves across the screen. With Winamp the name of the tunes even shows up. But no sound. But when I play other tunes in other formats eg wav), everything is fine.
It seems as if the players I've got all seem to have problems with .mid files. I imagine there's some kind of setting I've got wrong, but I haven't been able to work out what to do about it.
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Jon Freeman Date: 27 Dec 99 - 02:22 PM McGrath, the most obvious suggestion I have is to look in accessories and see if you have voulme control (or perhaps you have another mixer somewhere on your system). Maybe the midi volume is turned off or possibly although I can't do it with my set up, midi is muted. Another alternative is to look in ControlPanel/Multimedia - perhaps you have the wrong midi device selected there. Jon |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: MMario Date: 27 Dec 99 - 02:26 PM jon - great minds think alike, so why did you and I both come up with the same idea? this is frightening....if 'spaw suggests the same thing, I am going to seriously consider that lobotomy my brother offerred for Christmas.. |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: Margo Date: 27 Dec 99 - 03:14 PM That happens to me... I might open the Noteworthy composer and discover there is no sound because something else is running that uses the sound. I close it and bingo! There's the sound. Margo |
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Subject: RE: Jeri's Tunes - now at Mudcat MIDI From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 27 Dec 99 - 04:53 PM You've cracked it. Or at leasrt dentwed it - I had the "synthesizer" muted in Volume Control.
Let the wild rumpus begin... |
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