BS: Jacob Rees-Mogg

Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees-Mogg
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 May 18 - 05:06 AM

"Should people of faith be excluded from politics?"
No - but their views should never become part of Government policy
Politics and religion are one of the most toxic combinations imaginable
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees-Mogg
From: Iains
Date: 11 May 18 - 05:01 AM

No matter what a political leader thinks or believes, the party in power dictates the agenda. How many manifestos are adhered to? Is this deliberately lying to the electorate, or the actuality of realpolitik?
Trump in America and May over in the UK are both sabotaged by the Administrative. In the case of America it goes even further. After all Woodrow Wilson stated the following:
“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”

Many past Presidents have passed similar comments! Deep State is regarded as a myth or fairy tale by many. I wonder what they base their certainty on? The way international politics plays out is at odds with the stated aims most of the time.
Would this be a case of Sod's Law or hidden choreographers?
Today there would seem to be an unfettered fourth arm of government. In the US it is the multiple entities of the Intelligence Services.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees-Mogg
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 May 18 - 04:54 AM

Should people of faith be excluded from politics?

Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees-Mogg
From: Tunesmith
Date: 11 May 18 - 04:31 AM

David Cameron was a disaster!
And, as to Rees-Moog's Christian view belonging a sub-set, well, his views ARE the Catholic Church's views, and that's a heck of a Christian sub-set.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees-Mogg
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 May 18 - 04:29 AM

Have to say that if I was a believer, I would add a prayer to my missal that 'How Much is that Moggie' becomes Prime Minister'
THereas May, Micheal Gve, Boris the Braindead and now a wonderful caricature of over-privileged idiocy
There has to be a limit of how much can a nation taker of incompetence and corruption
Bring 'im on, please, I say
Jim Caarroll

Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees-Mogg
From: Mr Red
Date: 11 May 18 - 04:11 AM

David Cameroon was fine PM. He ran the referendum to a fine line.

J R-M would be a fine PM that lost the vote of the electorate of this country.

But we are living in interesting times and the swivel-eyed right engender a need for the looney left. Anything could happen. And probably will. Hold on to your seats folks, it will be a bumpy ride.

To use his own expression J R-M is a good egg, a curate's egg.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees-Mogg
From: BobL
Date: 11 May 18 - 03:41 AM

R-M is expressing the point of view of a subset of Bible-bashers, one not necessarily shared with other Christians. And Biblical writings, dating as they do from different times and circumstances, often express more than one point of view.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees-Mogg
From: Tunesmith
Date: 11 May 18 - 02:44 AM

Iains, you missed my point! Rees-Moog is expressing THE BIBLE's point of view, and the Government are overriding those views which is rather strange when, as I said before, the UK have a State religion which, surely, is based on the teachings of the Bible.
The Government seem to want their cake and eat it.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees-Mogg
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 May 18 - 02:38 AM

I'm sure that Jacob Rees-Mogg also finds a necessity for Grammar Schools - as do I of course.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees-Mogg
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 11 May 18 - 02:03 AM

I find the concept of 'A fine PM', and a man who regards the necessity for food-banks as 'Wonderful', utterly irreconcilable.

Subject: RE: BS: Jacob Rees-Mogg
From: Iains
Date: 10 May 18 - 04:44 PM

Personal views are not always government views. Belief or lack of belief in a deity is not required of a politician unless inflicted on an unwilling electorate. Rees Mogg certainly has the required debating skills, on a par with the former Mekon Hague. He wouldprobably make a fine PM unlike Boris kerfuffle Johnson.

Subject: BS: Jacob Rees-Mogg
From: Tunesmith
Date: 10 May 18 - 03:59 PM

There is talk that British politician Jacob Rees-Mogg could become the next Prime Minister, but some would say that he would have a mountain to climb to get there because of his strict - some would say -views on abortion and gay marriage.
Youtube have a number of videos where fellow politicians say that his views are old fashioned, and out of touch with current thinking. But,of course, they are not HIS views, they are God's views...if you are believer in The Bible and it's teachings.
Now, the UK has a State religion and The Queen is the head of it, so you would have thought that is cases like abortion and gay marriages, the Church would be the arbiters of what is morally correct.
It seems to me that UK politicians like the idea of religion but are quite happy to disregard its teachings if it suits them.