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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 22 Aug 21 - 07:53 PM I looooove Ski Queen, fortunately it is only obtainable near me at a large fancy chain selling expensive stuff which I'm not visiting at the moment, I'm just popping into the supermarket as we are in lockdown. Covid delta abounds. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Charmion Date: 22 Aug 21 - 05:35 PM Brunost is addictive, if you develop the taste for it. My first husband, Mr Wrong, was Norwegian, and a confirmed habitué; it was mother’s apple pie and all other fondly remembered delicacies to him. I thought it tasted foul but never said so; I let him think I was depriving myself so he could have the whole thing to himself. Thirty years ago, a 250-gram packet of “Ski Queen” brunost cost ten bucks in Ottawa — a significant sum. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 21 Aug 21 - 09:03 PM use by dates are a good guide, but are not holy writ. Once upon a time in the supermarket I heard a couple of young women talking about throwing out a beautiful soft cheese cos it was a day past i's use-by. As a grey haired Olde Pharte I probably could have interrupted to tell (advise?) them that a few days doesn't hurt & soft cheese is better the older it gets, being even better when it is well past it's date, but I hesitated ... Maybe they are still throwing out perfectly good cheese. I recently sent an email to a friend I've shared very elderly white cheeses with at sessions telling him about a cheese I'd discovered - Crémeux Ash Brie hand made in the Adelaide Hills. I got a call from his wife who shares the email address asking if spammers had got into my email! I was a bit enthusiastic, I do love Ash Brie. I also love Red Leicester & lots o other cheeses. I'm currently eating a fruit cream cheese cos it has been in the fridge longer than the Camembert & the 3 Ash Bries. With no singing sessions, my cheese stash keeps growing, so I have to keep it down - yum! Moving away from triple-crème, another cheese I love is Norwegian goat's cheese, Brunost yum! As this article mentions an archaeological find of what is probably "a cheese residue" on pottery from circa 650 B.C.E. I'll head for the archaeology thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Steve Shaw Date: 21 Aug 21 - 06:08 AM What I can't tolerate is Brie or Camembert that has a chalky middle, or ones than won't go runny after a few hours out of the fridge. They often seem to be at their best when they're right up to their use-by dates. I take no notice of use-by/best-before dates on hard cheeses or St Agur. Mozzarella is very unforgiving if allowed to go out of date, I've found. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Senoufou Date: 21 Aug 21 - 03:40 AM Oooh Dave, yes, I do indeed like all those cheeses you suggest. And they don't give me vertigo. But oh, the yearning for Danish blue, Brie and my absolute favourite, the stinkiest, runniest Camembert! When I presented for my first Covid vaccination, the nurse asked if I had any allergies. I told her sadly about this cheese thingy and she smiled. She replied that she is quite sure there is no Camembert in the Astra-Zeneca vaccine! I bet she secretly thought "Silly old lady!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: BobL Date: 21 Aug 21 - 02:44 AM "Connoisseuse" - what a lovely word. And strictly correct, of course. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Dave the Gnome Date: 20 Aug 21 - 07:42 AM Mossers Cornish Brie is pretty good. Can you eat non-creamy cheeses Sen? If so I can (and always do) recommend Lancashire, Cheshire and Wensleydale. In that order. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Senoufou Date: 20 Aug 21 - 03:51 AM My sister (retired doc) repeatedly suggests a Stugeron tablet. I suppose I could pop one on top of a lovely runny Camembert, like a sort of decoration. She's such a poncy connoisseuse. She talks about food I've never even heard of (quinoa, tofu, feta and so on) She thinks I'm a total wimp allowing vertigo to limit my love of strong, runny, smelly cheeses. I even have to be careful of cream. We like those individual trifles in little pots from the supermarket. But I have to eat them well within date, or the whipped cream on the top puts me in bed for two days. Husband rather enjoys this as he gets peace and quiet for a while! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Charmion's brother Andrew Date: 19 Aug 21 - 10:29 PM One can actually do better than Red Leicester in Canada. An unfortunate decision of cheese makers in Canada has been to name the cheese after the style on which they were based. Ingersoll and Balderson should have taken ownership of their products instead of flogging them as "cheddar." They are fine cheeses in their own right. Lankaaster is even better. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Steve Shaw Date: 19 Aug 21 - 09:13 PM Very gratifying to hear that such glories are available to you in such a distant outpost of the Empire, Charmion ;-). If you haven't tried that Red Leicester yet, then you're in for a treat if you can get your hands on it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Charmion Date: 19 Aug 21 - 08:39 PM Products of the Snowdonia Cheese Company are sold in Stratford, Ontario, and I am a committed fan. The last ounce of a Black Bomber is waiting to be tomorrow’s lunch even as I type — and then I can go out and buy more! Speaking of cheesy comestibles that go well with wine, Ontario producers are now selling aged Gouda that just sings on the tongue. I have to go to Ottawa in a couple of weeks, and while I’m there I shall buy the largest piece of Lankaaster I can find; it’s made by the Glengarry Cheese Company in Lancaster, Ontario, down on the St Lawrence River front, and it’s possibly the finest hard cheese I’ve tasted in the last ten years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: robomatic Date: 19 Aug 21 - 07:18 PM I'm such a fan of pepper jack that I have red pepper crumblies ready to mix with regular jack when I can't find the blend. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Steve Shaw Date: 19 Aug 21 - 06:50 PM I could have started a new cheese thread, but instead I've resurrected this one (I started it anyway). Thing is, I've discovered the Snowdonia Cheese Company. Their cheeses come mainly in little rounds which are covered in coloured wax. Not cheap, either, typically around the four quid mark... So far, so unattractive. Worse, many of their cheeses are of the abhorrent type that have added garlic, herbs or fruit. The very spawn of the devil, in m' humble. However. Two of their cheeses are sensational. Black Bomber, a cheddar-style cheese, though somewhat moister and softer in texture than typical cheddar, is a salty miracle of a cheese. Fantastic. And their vintage Red Leicester (a style I generally avoid) is so amazing that I rushed out to the only place I know that stocks it, in very small quantities, and bought two more. It's moist, it's fresh, it's tangy and it's good and strong. Amazingly good cheese. Not the one with added chilli, so beware and read the label. Finding good cheese makes you feel like it's good to be alive. Especially when you consider that a cheesy evening in simply demands a glass or four of red... The wax comes off very easily, I should add. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Jun 18 - 09:25 PM Very nice, Rusty! No music reference needed, the song just sings itself. :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Tattie Bogle Date: 01 Jun 18 - 04:33 PM Another vote for Comte, made in the Jura region of France. A bit like Gruyere, only better. In France they will have many Comtes, but here we're lucky to get just one. To be found in ASDA (cheapest), Tesco's and sometimes in Sainsbury's. Our French friends thought St Agur was "too sweet", but next time we visited, guess what was on offer? Edinburgh has a wonderful cheese merchant in Mellis, shop on Victoria Street. Reaped the benefit of my daughter and son-in-law's shopping there, yesterday lunchtime. Beautifully gooey Gorgonzola, firm and bitey Cheddar with rind on, and squidgy Brie. But have to put in a word for our Scottish cheeses: whole range of Arran truckles, from Arran whisky flavoured to herbs, chilli, etc, then there's Caboc, Mull cheddar, Strathdon blue, and others with Scottish/even Irish-sounding names marketed by Aldi and Lidl, e.g. Aberdoyle cheddar (where in fiction is Aberdoyle?) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Senoufou Date: 01 Jun 18 - 04:12 PM I've copied into my green exercise book where I note down interesting or funny quotes etc. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Rusty Dobro Date: 01 Jun 18 - 04:06 PM Oh shucks, Sen, you've got me blushing rather charmingly! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Senoufou Date: 01 Jun 18 - 03:39 PM Rusty, that's BRILLIANT!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Rusty Dobro Date: 01 Jun 18 - 03:12 PM Go away from my fridge, babe, leave at your own chosen speed. I've only got a soft French cheese, it's not the one you need. You say you're looking for a cheese never weak but always strong, To affect you and offend you, with a truly awful pong, A cheese to make your neighbours shut their doors, But it ain't Brie, babe, oh no, no, it ain't Brie, babe, It ain't Brie you're lookin' for, babe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Big Al Whittle Date: 01 Jun 18 - 06:28 AM I used to quite like Crackerbarrel - don't seem to have seen it for a bit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Rusty Dobro Date: 31 May 18 - 04:02 AM Time for some Les Barker (it's ALWAYS time for some Les Barker...) - There's Cheddar and Cheshire and Lancashire too, Leicester's bright orange and Stilton is blue. It waxes so lyrical, what can you do but sing, Oh the hard cheese of old England, In old England very hard cheese. Derby got green bits because of the sage, And when it gets older its kept in a cage. What does it hum when it reaches this age but, They say double Gloucester is twicest as nice, They say double Gloucester there, I've said it twice, Its nice in potatoes but nicest in mice. Those damn foreigners aren't worth a mention, Old Gorgonzolas is renowned for it stenchen, His brother Emil wrote novels in French and sing, There's Swaledale and Wendslydale, Rutland to add, Shropshire and Cornish you may not have had, It's not bad on salads this ballad's not sad and sing, My young love said to me my mother won't mind, And my father once liked you for your lack of rind, No cheese greater love for his food than mankind. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Senoufou Date: 28 May 18 - 01:45 PM Hahaha McGrath! "Yes, cheeses love me!" (but in my case they don't if they're runny or blue) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 28 May 18 - 12:58 PM What a friend we have in cheeses... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Senoufou Date: 28 May 18 - 12:47 PM Very wise to chuck out anything that tastes a bit strange. I'd rather lose money than be ill with food poisoning. My father used to sing the Gorgonzola Song ("Gorgonzola!Gorgonzola! Three cheers for the green white and blue!") I've just found it on Youtube, presented by Roy Hudd. Oh how I wish I could eat those blue cheeses! Or those runny, smelly French Camemberts. Sigh... (stamps foot and sulks) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Jon Freeman Date: 28 May 18 - 10:18 AM We've just thrown a pack of Tesco Gorgonzola in the bin. Very unusual for us but this mostly all white looking stuff, just doesn't appeal, in fact worse than that, Pip and I find a taste to it that we find unpleasant and no one's eaten any of it over the last week. Back to other things at random in the thread. St Agur is popular here as is (not had in a long while) another French blue, Roquefort. On some comments on Cheddar, I remember long ago a "Vintage New Zealand" from Asda that was strong, tasty and very well liked at home. I think now, we are usually on whatever Tesco has but recent packs have been the Cathedral City "extra mature" mentioned before - very nice. Usually here, there is not the great variety others may have (and I don't know a few of the names) but there is usually at least a stronger cheddar (and, yes, don't even think of mild), something blue, a "crumbly white" a Brie or Camembert and perhaps a cream like Borsin to choose from. And maybe something else just happened to be picked up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Senoufou Date: 24 May 18 - 12:58 PM Ooooh I remember those pfr! (Not council house, but we weren't well-off by any means) They were stuck into a grapefruit I think, like a hedgehog. At least cheese wasn't wrapped in plastic in the early fifties. I loved watching Mrs Lawrence in our local grocer's using the cheese-wire on the marble block, (one nodded to indicate what size piece one wanted) then wrapping said piece in greaseproof paper. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: punkfolkrocker Date: 24 May 18 - 11:59 AM ...ooops... I just touched on class politics in the 'sod politics' cheese thread... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: punkfolkrocker Date: 24 May 18 - 11:46 AM small cubes of cheddar and pineapple skewered on a cocktail stick... The pinnacle of 1960s / 70s council estate party buffet sophistication... who needed poncy middle class fondues... [my mum worked in a Scrumpyshire cheddar cheese factory while she was expecting me - cheddar probably is in my DNA...???] |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Donuel Date: 24 May 18 - 11:14 AM If you are itching for a little excitement I'll let you in on a little TSA secret. You see, the density and low energy Xray signature of a 6 by 2 inch block of Cheddar cheese is identical to C-4 Simply pack a block or two of the cheese in your carry on luggage. For twice the fun, place a cell phone on top of the cheese. At most you might collect damages from a court for the TSA over reaction. At least you will end up with a good cocktail party story. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Mr Red Date: 24 May 18 - 04:21 AM Gone with the Bries ROTFLMAO I suppose they cast a Red Leicester as Scarlet O'Ha Ha Hara. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: gillymor Date: 23 May 18 - 03:33 PM I only eat the stuff imported from the Holy Land. I'm a devout believer in Cheeses of Nazareth. I'll get my... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: beardedbruce Date: 23 May 18 - 03:24 PM from the DT... WHAT A FRIEND WE HAVE IN CHEESES What a friend we have in cheeses, Mozzarella, Cheddar, Swiss! Bleu and Limberger's sweet breezes Lingering like a lover's kiss. Humble milk's apotheosis, Muenster, Provolone, Brie Damn cholesterol's thrombosis Cheese is Gouda stuff by me! Heed the U. S. Dairy Council, Keep the Gruyere on the shelf. Even just a tiny ounce'll Give you vitamin B-12. Gather, pilgrims at the deli Buying Edam and Havarti, Wedges moist and cold and smelly, Bring home lots and have a party! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Steve Shaw Date: 23 May 18 - 04:22 AM Yebbut that cheese shop was uncontaminated by cheese and replete with a band of increasingly frenetic musicians... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 May 18 - 04:21 AM I never knew that! Cheese would have been funnier :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Rusty Dobro Date: 23 May 18 - 04:15 AM Back in the 'Python' days, John Cleese could recommend a good cheese shop..... And of course, his name would have been John Cheese, if his father hadn't changed it! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Donuel Date: 22 May 18 - 05:13 PM So the rind is Gone with the Bries |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: keberoxu Date: 22 May 18 - 03:08 PM The Breeze and I is a different sort of cheese, since it's English words grafted onto an Ernesto Lecuona tune. If I recall right, the Spanish lyric is about Andalucía. (NOT Malaga, as in Malagueña -- that's a different Lecuona tune) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Steve Shaw Date: 22 May 18 - 09:16 AM Of course, there's brie and brie... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Senoufou Date: 22 May 18 - 08:26 AM Hahahaha Mr Red!! You always make me die laughing!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Mr Red Date: 22 May 18 - 07:28 AM I buy 1Kg of Brie at a time. 7 GBP until Brexshit. Real fromage too. How much crème do you want? They wrote a song about it.............. "The Bries and I" I'll get my côte |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Steve Shaw Date: 22 May 18 - 04:22 AM How can you NOT eat brie rind? Once you've got the brie nice and runny (nothing worse than brie that still has a hard, chalky middle), you'd be throwing most of it away if you tried to remove the rind. Whether you eat the rind of any cheese is up to you. I might hesitate if the rind of a cheese was furry, multicoloured or covered in wet-looking oozy blobs, otherwise I scoff the lot. If rind on cheese was deadly, they wouldn't be allowed to sell you cheese with it still attached if you think about it. Which I don't. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Senoufou Date: 22 May 18 - 02:50 AM Hahahaha Big Al!!! I had to study his entire output at Uni - enough to make one lose the will to live. Miserable and depressing. Now I know it was the cheese he ate. Donuel, I used to eat the floury rind from Brie, in the days before I started to have this vertigo. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Big Al Whittle Date: 21 May 18 - 10:07 PM not keen on our local cheese - blue vinny. Thomas Hardy liked it, no wonder he wrote such bloody miserable books and poems. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Donuel Date: 21 May 18 - 07:36 PM You did not mention any of the cave aged unicorn Goat cheeses, Camel cheese, Llama cheese, lichen cheese, reindeer cheese or the outrageously expensive civet cheese. I haven't had them either. Would you eat Brie rind? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 21 May 18 - 07:29 PM keberoxu, parchment in rolls is everywhere these days, even in the various brands of Dollar Stores. You need to look for it next to the wax paper and shelf liner. It's so popular for baking that it is reasonably priced as well. I have a roll, though I don't use it very often. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Steve Shaw Date: 21 May 18 - 06:55 PM Cheese shops can be a bit of a curate's egg. We have a good one in Tavistock which, quite strictly, only does local cheeses. Very laudable, as we in the Westcountry make damn good cheese. There's a fabulous cheese shop in Bath that really understands cheese, but it's pricey. I regularly use the cheese counter at Gloucester Services, both northbound and southbound. What I've found with all of them is that you shouldn't buy cheese from them unless they have a very fast turnover. The best cheeses, once cut into, simply don't keep very well. You can get very good cheese in supermarkets, despite those long aisles full of rubbishy "cheddar" from Canada, Australia, Scotland, Ireland and all the rest. Two immediate switch-off words are "mild" and "reduced-fat." Most supermarkets sell Wookey Hole, and a few even sell Keens, Westcombe and Montgomery's, the finest that money can buy. You can buy the brilliant Hafod cheese at Gloucester Services. The Dairy Crest creamery that makes all those Cathedral City cheeses, and all those Davidstow ones at M&S, etc., is twenty minutes down the road from us. The roads round here are clogged up with their tankers and they're not fussy where their milk comes from. But, I must admit, the Cathedral City Extra Mature is very good. I wouldn't give you tuppence for any of the others. The cheese factory looks like a prison camp. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Donuel Date: 21 May 18 - 05:38 PM Steve you would love our truly magnificent cheese shop in Wegmans. They have hundreds of varieties and sampling is endless and encouraged. Is there a type of cheese you would care to ask about? Naturally the sources will not be local or familiar. https://www.wegmans.com/products/cheese-shop.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: keberoxu Date: 21 May 18 - 05:12 PM Talking of paper, as a lifelong USA person: Parchment is not easily come by. To purchase parchment I think you have to go to a special shop. Whereas, wax paper is sold absolutely EVERYWHERE. The little shops, the markets, the franchises, the Super Wal Whatevers ... everywhere. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Big Al Whittle Date: 21 May 18 - 04:45 PM if you want cheese taste, use big lumps. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Sod politics. Let's talk triple-crème... From: Senoufou Date: 21 May 18 - 11:57 AM Dave, it's soft cheeses, and blue cheeses. In other words all the ones I used to adore. :( I sat paring off tiny slivers of Edam from my chunk yesterday evening with my little serrated knife. Blooming boring stuff! |
