BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!

Subject: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 03:15 AM

UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy, right? No wait. Corbyn’s son works for McDonnell. McDonnell’s son works for Corbyn. Corbyn’s ex-girlfriend is Shadow Home Secretary. And McCluskey's ex-girlfried is General Secretary of @UKLabour!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: peteglasgow
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 03:21 AM

i didn't know that about JC and JMc's sons - what exactly are their jobs? this could make the nepotism at the top of the US government look insignificant. (i should say that my daughter has worked in a few bars in Leith and i have been served by her a few times)

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 03:41 AM

Details of Jeremy Corbyn's son's appointment

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Iains
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 03:49 AM

Perhaps you meant neptocracy, or even nepotism?

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 04:00 AM

Nepotism is fine, as long as you keep it in the family.

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Iains
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 04:18 AM

Perhaps you are correct Nigel, but to be fair most political parties are guilty of the same.

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Iains
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 04:22 AM

False News perhaps?

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/16/europe/uk-politics-nepotism/index.html

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 04:39 AM

Iains,
Maybe not 'false news'.
The link you give says they will stop MPs employing their relatives.
The opening post says Corbyn’s son works for McDonnell. McDonnell’s son works for Corbyn. So they are not employing their relatives. They're getting around it by employing each others relatives.

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 04:42 AM

LIKE THIS

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 04:48 AM

Yes, Jim, a little like that. But as the files haven't been released we don't know what they contain, nor why they aren't being released.
It's certainly not 'nepotism' though, as his mother is no longer alive to exert any influence.

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 05:44 AM

But Mark Thatcher was arguably, and I'm not saying that he was, only probably was, an even nastier piece of work than the Corbyn/McDonnell axis of evil.

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 05:45 AM

Nothing like that actually Nigel
The Corbyn thing dated back to 2015 and has only become an issue when it is realised that Corbyn has some support among the electorate - it concerns possible nepotism
The Thatcher thing not only covers up the facts of the Thatcher sprog's criminal behaviour (we know he was a gunn-runner from contemporary reports), and his mammy's pulling rank to get him out of the clarts (something else that was widely reported at the time)
But here we have the entire establishment hiding documents that we are entitled to see in order to protect both mammy and child
A different league altogether
I would be disappointed to learn that Corbyn was as prone to using his authority the way it is common to career politicians, (which I doubt) but your lot are hiding facts about serious international crimes
Give us credit for some intelligence - there's an election in the offing
This is only the start of your shit-throwing attempts to smear a decent politician with real alternatives to the garbage heap your lot have made Britain
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 06:01 AM

Welcome back Jim.

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 06:08 AM

Not sure I am Keith, but I thought I'd try may hand at something easy
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 06:25 AM

Jim,
You're the one who said the two situations were alike, by titling your link "Like this". You're now saying that it's "nothing like that".
A little consistency might help us understand what you actually mean.

But here we have the entire establishment hiding documents that we are entitled to see in order to protect both mammy and child
Supposition only. You haven't see the documents either.

Give us credit for some intelligence - there's an election in the offing
Something else you have been made aware of secretly? Nothing has been announced to the rest of us.

This is only the start of your shit-throwing attempts to smear a decent politician with real alternatives to the garbage heap your lot have made Britain
I see your brief vacation from these pages has done nothing to moderate you language.

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Jun 18 - 07:07 AM

"Like this".
Missed off the question mark Nigel - a bit rusty
"You haven't see the documents either."
I followed the reports at the time as did everybody else
All the hidden reports can possibly be is the background to what we already know - that the man was a serious international crook and his mammy bailed him out
I should imagine that the outrageous breach of the right to disclosure is to hide how deeply THatcher's colleagues were involved in the cover-up
Election - can a government relying on a terrorist linked political party which is still ploutering around Jurassic Park as far as human rights is concerned, possibly survive ?
If the gross immorality of relying on such friends doesn't bring May's Fred Karno set-up her back-stabbing colleagues (Brainless Boris - Gove the gob.... and How Much is that Moggy) will be more than happy to administer the coupe-de grace
A totally divided Government on major issues, a Brexit entry policy that need a guide dog and a white stick leading Britain into the Brave New World of "standing on its own two feet" - are you people totally round the twist ?
Language - c'mon we're all adults - there is no such thing as bad language - just language used badly
Sorry Nigel - you are one of "Them" I have a degree of respect for - don't you let me down
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jun 18 - 01:51 PM

Give us credit for some intelligence - there's an election in the offing
Something else you have been made aware of secretly? Nothing has been announced to the rest of us

It's been denied by Theresa May, and that is quite sufficient to justify confidence that it likely is true.

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Jun 18 - 02:54 PM

Watching the Parliamentary compromises today I think the Jury's still out on that one
I particularly likef the sight of the Whip sitting down next to the waverers and telling them what to vote
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Gutcher
Date: 14 Jun 18 - 04:21 AM

Something I may have missed--is Sir Mark allowed to enter Britain yet?

The fragrant lady with the Tesco connection, on paying a third of what was due certainly was. We should not forget what her gains from that source {Tesco} were used for, on her own admission.

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Gutcher
Date: 14 Jun 18 - 04:45 AM

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Jun 18 - 10:02 AM

"is Sir Mark allowed to enter Britain yet?"
NO-ONE HERE SEEMS TO KNOW
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Jun 18 - 04:07 PM

Of course he's allowed to enter Britain. He's a British subject.

Possibly there might be various people who would want to have a word with him if he did, but that's entirely another matter.

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Jun 18 - 03:09 AM

"Of course he's allowed to enter Britain. He's a British subject."
A MOOT POINT
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Iains
Date: 15 Jun 18 - 03:47 AM

He is a British Citizen, of course he can enter Britain.

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 15 Jun 18 - 05:05 AM

IS Jihadi fighters are allowed to return.

Subject: RE: BS: UKLabour is a bastion of meritocracy !!
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Jun 18 - 06:36 AM

But not residents who have lived here since Windrush Days, if those responsible for monitoring our population get their way
That says everything that needs to be said about the rottenness in our particular "State of Denmark"
Jim Carroll