Seed's thought for the day: 12/23

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Dave Swan
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 03:59 PM

See, I know better than to ask these questions, but I can't help myself. LMAO, E.S.

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 03:14 PM

Actually El Swanno, neither. All canned products from Catspaw Industries come with the new, patented, "Rectal Twist E-Z Opener" .......Simply shove the can up your ass and twist. You'll notice too that each can comes with its own bung plug to keep any unused portions as stale as possible.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Dave Swan
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 02:53 PM

Catspaw,

Is that Humor in a Can packaged in a pull-top or do you need a church key?

E.S.

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 02:49 PM

Actually its embarassing how much mileage I've gotten out of that sight......but thanks BB.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 02:42 PM

Praise the Lord Catspaw; you are a funny man

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Neil Lowe
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 02:38 PM

Vonnegut and Mark Twain always struck me as twin brothers from different mothers.

Neil

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 02:36 PM

Ain't nothin' like a Dancin' Lesson from God.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 02:10 PM

Bokonon--or Bokhanin (I'd have to look it up)--is a character in Kurt Vonnegut's greatest novel, "Cat's Cradle," who founds a religion on a Caribbean island on which a fellow shipwreck survivor establishes a dictatorship. Bok--(whatever) delivered his messages in calypso form: the first and most important article of faith: "All religions are false, including this one." Another message: "Never turn down an invitation. Invitations are dancing lessons from God." Read the book, find out about karasses and granfaloons--and Ice-nine. You might categorize Vonnegut at this time at least as Ray Bradbury with a sense of humor.

--seed

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Marymac90
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 02:03 PM

Me, again! No, It's not another double post-I forgot something--I told you my memory was shot!!!

I wanted to tell Bonnie and RiB that I know such a person. He's my best friends sweetheart, and he writes and sings and plays guitar, but he doesn't like parties or open mics or anything, so he may just sing his songs to my friend, or his kids. He also likes to paint, and he's less shy about entering his paintings in a show. He doesn't really keep it all inside, but he doesn't usually share it with all that many people.

All the best,

Mary

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Marymac90
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 01:42 PM

Thanks, Spaw, I know where to get it now if I ever need any more. But why pick on anthropologists-my housemate is one and she's fun, not boring. (I know, I know, why not?)

Thanks for the steer to healing threads, was that Micca? My memory's shot!

Seed, so who is Bokanon? Some Star Trek character I missed?

Yours, Mary McCaffrey

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 01:20 PM

And you can get it here today folks..."HUMOR IN A CAN" from Catspaw Industries. Tired of the run of the mill jokes you hear at the grocery store and want something different? Step right up for some completely off the wall bullshit guaranteed to make you an outcast wherever you are! Gross bits, totally irreverent routines, foul language..Take your pick. Or try the Catspaw Sampler Pack with something to offend everyone!!!! And remember that we offer a money back guarantee, send back your portion of unused Catspaw Bullshit and I'll send back the unused portion of your money! Insults are our foremost product and now available in the Fivemost size for extended stays at boring parties with anthropologists. Custom Designed Bullshit Upon Request.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Micca
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 01:12 PM

Ah BSeed, A follower of the Prophet Bokonon!!!, and Marymac 90 look at the non sectarian posts to the Healing circle threads if you have time, this place is full of people who may or may not have religios leanings, but who, unlike many "organised religions" put the humanity and the people first and not the "organisation/ church/ god". They combine to help and may never ask if you are "saved" or check your medical insurance is up to date before giving First Aid. and they will pull your leg unmercifully in the process, since laughter is the great healer.

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Peter T.
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 01:01 PM

Probably everyone here is united in the mystery of music. We could not possibly agree on why it does what it does, but that it does, makes us a community, which is another related mystery, held together by humour, which is another related mystery (especially catspaw's brand of humour), and compassion, and so on, mystery after mystery. It is virtual turtles all the way down....yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 12:42 PM

Roger, I wonder how many people have lived their personal lives in such a way that they have kept their true song or their soul-being locked up inside for an entire lifetime?

BB

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 27 Dec 99 - 12:02 AM

Bseed,

One of my mentors in the field of helping others led me to the works of Otto Rank. He wrote a book called "Art and Artist" that I would recommend to any creative person. I found this quote that describes some of Rank's views. "Since culture is itself a poiesis, all of its participants are poietai--inventors, makers, artists, storytellers, mythologists. They are not, however, makers of actualities, but makers of possibilities. The creativity of culture has no outcome, no conclusion. It does not result in art works, artifacts, products. Creativity is a continuity that engenders itself in others. 'Artists do not create objects, but create by way of objects.' (Rank) --James Carse, Finite and Infinite Games, 1986

The Artist would create even if there was no one else to view the creation. How many songwriters are there who have kept their music to themselves for their entire lifetime?

Roger in Baltimore

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 26 Dec 99 - 11:13 AM

Sean, in case you're still around but missed my earlier announcements of this, I'm now a member of the Starboard Watch, the band that plays Thursday nights at Quinn's Lighthouse, WintersWages is also a member, Dave and Pam still come when Dave isn't working, RiGGy has been known to show up, we haven't seen FADAC for a while. This Thursday ought to be a good night, an early New Year's Eve celebration (beat the Ozzies to the New Year). Then, of course, there are always the Irish sessions on Sunday nights at the Starry Plough. I go to most of these, so does RiGGy; Dave and Pam come frequently. So how about trying again to connect?

--seed

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Dec 99 - 09:35 AM

Dear Marymac,

I guess by now you've figured out that you definitely are not alone here at the Mudcat; there are many irreverent Mudders, some fo whom are wise wimmin, some pagans, some just plain cynics, but even they usually have big soft hearts!

Nice to have you join us and I hope you do get into the Hokey Pokey and the Druids. It is one of the most classic of threads ever!

SeanM, darlin, take a DEEP breath, now let it out really slowly, there's a good lad, now repeat after me, "Is no mundaneness, is no David Crosby, is only what is!" **BG**

luvya'llKatlaughing

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: SeanM
Date: 26 Dec 99 - 01:38 AM

Hey... Don't make me call upon the Mystical Staff of David Crosby Mundaneness!!!

M

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Dec 99 - 01:32 AM

Aw hell Seed, if she liked the "Infamous Tiple Thread" that I sent her to, she needs to meet the "boys" who hang out at my place...........Lessee, the Neil Young Center, tiples, Paw,Cletus,Buford, and the Reg boys.........best place would be an old chapter from:

THE EDGE OF INSANITY or As the Tiple Turns

Spaw

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 26 Dec 99 - 01:17 AM

Honest, Sean, I'm not trying to revive it, just to point it out to a new member. Now if SHE revives it...

--seed

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: SeanM
Date: 26 Dec 99 - 01:06 AM

NOOOOOOOOOO!

No more Hokey Pokey!!!!

PLEEEEAAAAAASSSSSEEE!!!!

Don't make me satirize again!

M

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 26 Dec 99 - 12:56 AM

Marymac, did my message come through?

A couple of threads you might enjoy:

Hokey Pokey and the Druids

True Detective stories

Type either into the thread search Filter box above the threads list at Forum Home, set the time to a year, and click on Refresh. I'd give you links (blue clickies) but I'm too lazy at the moment.

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 25 Dec 99 - 07:33 PM

Overheard in a stationers shop, whilst choosing Christmas cards - "I don't like them religious pictures on cards, that isn't what Christmas is about is it?' I went on my merry way a more thoughtful and perverted person.... It was September.....

LTS

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Marymac90
Date: 25 Dec 99 - 07:21 PM

Seed, I am quite familiar with all those treatments you mentioned. I guess if Spaw is part of the staff at the NYC, the patients would probably do anything to get out!!!

By all means, either message me via mudcat or email- [e-mail]

You're not on aol, are you? I can do instant messages and chat with people also on aol.

It's nice to know there are people like me here at mudcat, especially this time of year, with all the god-talk floating about.

Art's piece on the IWW was really something, wasn't it?

I'm looking forward to more correspondence.

Yours,

Mary

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 25 Dec 99 - 06:44 PM

Marymac, all workers at the Neil Young Center are antisocial. The only treatments possible for the patients/clients/residents are the rubber hose massage or the icy shower--sometimes the lukewarm "golden" shower. Ask Catspaw about that one. People come out of the center ready to face the world again--anything but more time being molested by the dipso dipshits at NYC.

--seed

I'm thinking of continuing my response to your long posting in either a personal mudcat message or via email (email has the advantage that we can include a few other voices in the communication, voices like that of the mildly befuddled Mr. Patterson). After reading your amazing post last night I checked your earlier appearances in the threads, which led me through that terrific one that I had passed up when it was on the list re: WWW. Aren't there a lot of terrific people here?

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Marymac90
Date: 25 Dec 99 - 05:52 PM

Dear Spaw,

Thanks for both your posts-the thoughtful, philasophic one, and the funny one. I do believe in this "communion of spirits", though it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the "communion of the saints", that we were taught about in catholic school. Some 12-steppers use the spirit of the group as their higher power. I think this communion is accessed perhaps most easily through participation in music and song. That's why Joe Hill took hymns and made them into labor songs-people already knew the hymns, and the music was known to have that uplifting, transformational quality to it. For such a cynic as myself, it might surprise people to know I like spirituals and Sacred Harp singing a lot. And gospel is the only side of bluegrass I care much for at all.

I read all of the infamous Tiple thread. I take it that's where mudcatters first heard about the work of the Neil Young center. Do they need any social workers there? I have lots of experience in mental health, mental illness, mental aggravation, etc. I suppose one has to watch out for the tiple-playing aliens-are their little fingers bent, or is their some other way we can identify them? Their resemblance to armadillos with leprosy? Here in the east we generally consider deer to be the dumbest road kill. Sometimes it is they who run into autos, broadside. Anyway, you have again succeeded in making me laugh, for which I thank you.

Now that my friends are finished with their THIRD orgy of gift exchanging (guess they've never heard that once a knight is enough!) I think I'll go join them for turkey, and tipple a bit with them, and think of you, and mudcat, while I do.

Love,

Mary

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Dec 99 - 02:20 AM

Terminally Screwed did you say? Why Mary we have just the place for those folks sponsores by all of us right here at Mudcat!!!! So if you are a little down and want some light reading...and since you're kinda' new here at the 'Cat..........Let me introduce you to the beginnings of the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed and where it first appeared on:

THE INFAMOUS TIPLE THREAD

Just click and enjoy!!! Merry Christmas!!!

Spaw

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Marymac90
Date: 25 Dec 99 - 02:03 AM

Dear Charles (BTW, that was my father's name),

Thank you so much for your post. I feel so relieved to not be the only odd one out. At this time of year I feel a little overwhelmed. The fervent Christians seem to presume everyone is Christian, and believes exactly as they do. The materialists presume that it's good and normal to spend as much money as possible, on as much STUFF as possible-presents, decorations and lights, parties, party clothes, etc.

I do celebrate a little with friends who feel more or less as I do. The culture is so saturated with all this that it would be difficult to try to ignore it. I phone family members and friends that I might not usually phone, either to convey greetings, check on their health, or to see how they are doing, coping with all these societal expectations, that everyone will be perfectly happy with their perfectly normal family. The truth is most of us did not come from perfect families, and the Terminally Screwed generally did a good job of screwing up holidays, too.

Anyway, Charles, thanks for listening and responding. I'll try to lighten up a little, so as to not spoil others fun, and try to have some myself where I can. You do the same, and we'll get through this okay.

Love,

Mary

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Dec 99 - 01:43 AM

Mary, as Seed said, you are not alone. Its an interesting group we have around here. Regardless of affirmed belief or lack thereof, most all believe in the power of a communion of spirits. I've read many of the "great" philosophers and theists and atheists and on and on.........Even committed the incredible dumbass sin (like a few others around here) of getting a degree in philosophy. But the 20th century "stand-up philosopher"...Lenny Bruce summed it up best for me when he said, "There is only what is. What should be never existed."

Spaw

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 25 Dec 99 - 01:16 AM

Mary, your beliefs parallel mine to a startling degree--but it's not nearly so lonely out here as you might think. On the Mudcat it seems to me skeptics might be the majority--I too get caught up in Christmas for reasons similar to those that you have expressed so well, but the idea central to traditional Christianity that God gave his son as a gift to save mankind from damnation is to me completely incomprehensible--but in light of the occasion I'll not expound.

--seed

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Marymac90
Date: 24 Dec 99 - 07:08 PM

Seed, one more thing... I forgot to thank you earlier for your wise words about man creating god in his own image. Thanks for joining me out here in left field with your a-- exposed to the wind. It gets pretty lonely out here on a religious holiday like this is. To admit that religions are cultural constructs of the societies that created them is risky business.

Once Romans killed Christians. Later, at various periods, Christians killed (or exiled, or enslaved) Africans, pagans, druids, witches (wise women healers), Jews, Muslims, heretics, Gypsies, gays, civil rights activists, etc. Is one group supposed to be better than another?

Also, Christians conned pagans into becoming Christian (and keeping their lives) by incorporating some pagan traditions into Christianity-"Christmas" trees, yule logs, "Easter" eggs, etc. Also, as we know, singing good music can create a spirit of oneness in the people singing, whether it's Girl Scouts, Christmas carolers, civil rights marchers, military recruits, sailors, patrons of a pub, or churchgoers. The feeling tends to set the beliefs promulgated-whether it's that it's good to kill "gooks", or that it's good to get drunk, or it's that ------------- religion is the truest.

I generally think that the only way that people are convinced to believe all this religion stuff is by brainwashing them when they're young. Funny thing-people learn there's no Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, tooth fairy, etc. They may even learn that "god" is not on our side in the "bad" war, or any other war-they're all bad. But most don't seem to realize that their religion isn't any "truer" than their neighbors'-or those of folks halfway around the world.

There are things embodied in this holiday that are worth celebrating: hope, innocence, kindness, generosity, brother/sisterhood, love, the notion that good people and ideas may start in humble surroundings, etc. There was an historical Jesus, a teacher of religious principles, etc. But all the stuff that got attached to him by his biographers, and theologians, just seems to be stuff that made him appear to be who they wanted him to appear to be.

Gee, am I a damp dishrag thrown on this holiday, or what!!! What a party pooper!!! I don't really want to rain on the parade of those who get a lot out of all this, only to speak up for those who have divergent views. I respect peoples' sincerely held beliefs, and hope they'll respect mine, and other peoples.

I hope you all are getting what you need out of this holiday, and are giving and receiving love from all those near and dear to you.

Yours,

Mary McCaffrey

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 24 Dec 99 - 05:30 PM

Merry Christmas Charles. I recommend you don't drink too much Eggnog. Have you ever read the ingredients on the carton?
I don't need a Mistle Toe to give you a big hug and kiss.
You are a kind man Charles and I appreciate your thoughtfulness.
Love Bonnie

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 24 Dec 99 - 05:14 PM

Hi Gang, When I'm making pots and it's going well it feels like I'm in the room the material is there and something else...I often feel like I'm just observing whats going on...I said in an article latly that I can't amagine anyone who creates, who does'nt believe in some form of God.Sometimes I'm trying to sing a song and it just sounds forsed but there are thoughs nights when its all completely without effort and again it feels like someone else is present...Creation comes from more then one...Merry merry christmas to all and thanks Seed for the thread <<<>>>><><><><> Guy

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 24 Dec 99 - 05:13 PM

Hi Gang, When I'm making pots and it's going well it feels like I'm in the room the material is there and something else...I often feel like I'm just observing whats going on...I said in an article latly that I can't amagine anyone who creates, who does'nt believe in some form of God.Sometimes I'm trying to sing a song and it just sounds forsed but there are thoughs nights when its all completely without effort and again it feels like someone else is present...Creation comes from more then one...Merry merry christmas to all and thanks Seed for the thread <<<>>>><><><><> Guy

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Marymac90
Date: 24 Dec 99 - 04:03 PM

Well, seed, this thread got a little abstract toward the latter part, but if I read your earlier thoughts right, then what I'm feeling is creativity, and not just h---yness. I'd go along with that-at least it's something I can talk about in polite company a little easier. And this goes along with my ability to cook well, huh? Not bad... Now if I just had someone to cook for (in between my catering gigs,) we could also be creative together. That would be real nice.

Hopefully,

Mary McCaffrey

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 24 Dec 99 - 01:59 PM

You're welcome, Neil. Now you and Leej get back to work on "The Road to Toronto." Banjo Bonnie failed to pass the entrance exam for the nunnery. Hi-de-ho!

--seed

By the way, Neil--do you know the Ray Bradbury short story "The Flying Machine"? Very much on the theme of your last paragraph--if I get your point. Creative activity which seems innocent, aimed only at enhancing life, can be turned by the allies of entropy to destructive uses. Vonnegut plays with a similar theme in "Cat's Cradle," another of my favorite novels.

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Neil Lowe
Date: 24 Dec 99 - 01:04 PM

I have observed on occasion an almost prurient interest in destruction, exemplified in part by some people's ability to recite little known facts off the top of their heads about such things as the weapons payload of an FB-111.....or the fact that scenes of graphic violence do little to raise the condemnation or eyebrows of television censors, but full frontal nudity of a loving couple will wind up on the cutting room floor. I think Gershon Legman's "Love and Death" was an astute and brilliant observation of this.

In a cyclical sort of way, it only seems natural to build something - so that it can be torn down. How much more can a so-called international cultural center be "improved" upon before it eventually turns in on itself and implodes like a massive star? It's as if urban cultural centers reach an apex, then start a descent into decay and decadence: sometimes relatively abruptly through earthquake, fire or flood; or through conquest from covetous enemies; sometimes succumbing to the burden of sustaining their own weight, like New York City seems to be experiencing now. The body of history is just such a chronicle of these events.

So at times it seems as if, incorporated within the act of creation, is a grim affirmation that sooner or later "it" all must come to an end, and in the moment when the Eureka! muse strikes, it remains for history to decide whether the legacy it leaves behind prolongs, or hastens, our demise.

Thanking --seed for the mental massage, Neil

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Owlkat
Date: 24 Dec 99 - 02:36 AM

Hi hi.
Just wanted to throw in an owl story. A friend of mine was taking care of an injured great horned owl, and I loved to vist "Earl" every chance I got. Horned Owls are pretty big. We'd feed him a ground squirrel or something that one of her friends had collected for the owl, and then stand back and gaze at him, as he did the same to us, with his pair of tea-saucer sized eyes, hissing, snapping, and clicking his beak at us as soon as we turned to go. He was beautiful. He did get better, though, and was then released back into the woods to snag his own critters.
He sure was something.
Cheers
Owlkat.

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Dec 99 - 02:13 AM

'Spaw, I'm ready with 'The Joy of Snackes' and a packet of chocolate chips, see you round the back in 10 minutes....

If you don't understand 'The Joy of Snackes', you should read Terry Pratchett's 'Witches Abroad'.....

LTS

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Dec 99 - 11:30 PM

Sorrowfully Leej, his new leaf seems to have rotted off. Check out the Healing Circle thread or the new one on editing threads for printing.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 23 Dec 99 - 11:02 PM

sssshhhh...Mamatamba! I think he's trying to turn over a new lief(sp?).

LAJ

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Night Owl
Date: 23 Dec 99 - 10:49 PM

Geewhilikers.....a blushing thank you and Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones. You know we all treasure this place and your CONTINUED presence here Spaw....(and my friend Seed....sorry for the thread creep..where IS the autoharp jokes thread???)

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: MamaTamba
Date: 23 Dec 99 - 10:47 PM

OhMyGawd! "gargoyle" the Howard Stern naggo (and bad speller) of the site is from the north SF Bay area. I'm so ashamed. How did he/she/it get by us???

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Dec 99 - 10:33 PM

And I read your beauty in your postings.....Merry Christmas Owl.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Night Owl
Date: 23 Dec 99 - 10:13 PM

HEY, Seed....the beauty of the music is often in its simplicity!!!!! ;o)

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 23 Dec 99 - 08:59 PM

Charles, was it difficult to say goodbye to the owl?
My friend Chris rescued a baby crow. The crow grew to believe Chris was his mate and the crow became part of the family. After 7 month of taking care of the bird it started to become a nuisance in the neighbourhood and my friend Chris had to set it free.
Letting the bird go, broke Chris' heart.

BB

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 23 Dec 99 - 07:44 PM

Li'l Dorrit,

Actually I had an owl for a pet, once: a screech owl, about nine inches from the top of his head to the tip of his tail. Someone called the newspaper where I was working as a reporter/photographer and said there was an owl sitting in an awning in front of a store. I went and took a picture for the paper (big news in Visalia!), and thought that the little guy looked kind of lost so I nudged him into a cardboard box and took him (her?) home--I couldn't get it to eat, at first, until I started pushing bits of beef into its beak--and then, just when I had got it strong and healthy, decided it really needed to be free, so took it outside my apartment just before sunset. It flew to a nearby garage roof where it alit and stood there looking back at me. I went back to the apartment...

If you call that an affair with an owl, help yourself. But the word "Owly" I used as a nickname for addressing Night Owl, a real person, a real great person, even if she is an autoharp player.

--seed

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Little Dorritt
Date: 23 Dec 99 - 06:23 PM

Seed - you had an affair -- with an owl???

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 23 Dec 99 - 05:28 PM

I Am That I Am
A reflection of God's image

Subject: RE: Seed's thought for the day: 12/23
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 23 Dec 99 - 02:12 PM

Including the one that man created god in his own image. I purposely ignored the grammatical convention that dictates the use of capitalization...there being no evidence that the deity ever signed her name or indicated what it is--the names of deities being among the least significant--if most contentious--of man's creations.

--seed