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Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song

Joe Offer 02 Aug 18 - 10:21 PM
Joe Offer 02 Aug 18 - 10:24 PM
Gutcher 03 Aug 18 - 05:43 AM
GUEST,Gallus Moll (away from home!) 03 Aug 18 - 11:26 AM
GUEST,Guest 03 Aug 18 - 11:36 AM
GUEST,Guest 03 Aug 18 - 12:12 PM
Joe Offer 03 Aug 18 - 01:30 PM
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GUEST,Gallus Moll (away from home!) 03 Aug 18 - 03:29 PM
Gutcher 03 Aug 18 - 04:08 PM
John Moulden 03 Aug 18 - 04:56 PM
GUEST,GUEST, Ted. 03 Aug 18 - 05:03 PM
GUEST,weerover 03 Aug 18 - 05:12 PM
Gutcher 04 Aug 18 - 06:04 AM
John Moulden 04 Aug 18 - 09:59 AM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Aug 18 - 10:21 PM

received by email:

    Hi Joe,

    A planned trip up to Fort Bill this summer brought back many happy memories of many years of holidays under canvas in and around Glencoe, and of the nights in the Clackhaig in the 60s and 70s when old Jimmy was the landlord. You probably don't go back that far, but "organized" folk singing for money did not exist in those days, and anybody with a guitar would keep the place "happy" long into the night. I think Hamish McInnes was the then leader of the Mountain Rescue, and I remember one particular call out when one of his guys put his fathers Renaul Dauphine up a tree when trying too hard on the old road, and had to be rescued himself.

    Anyway, my query is :- why does there seem to be no mention of the Glencoe climbing song on your site, or any other site that I can find. Sung to the Streets of Laredo I think. Is there only me that remembers it ? Most of the others songs about all things, and the Polaris base, seem to be there, but not that.

    Regards,

    Ted,
    Halifax.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Aug 18 - 10:24 PM

Hmmmm. Good question. I know of songs about the massacre at Glencoe, but nothing about climbing. It sure was one of the best climbing spots I saw in Scotland.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: Gutcher
Date: 03 Aug 18 - 05:43 AM

Perhaps the required song would be "The Bar-room Mountaineer" composed by a journalist by the name of Jack Foley. The action in this song takes place in the Clachaig Inn with the only climbing involved being reaching the dizzy heights of a bar stool with the hero wearing his Bonnington Y Fronts.
Sorry I do not have the words of this very humourouse song.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: GUEST,Gallus Moll (away from home!)
Date: 03 Aug 18 - 11:26 AM

Hi Gutcher, i believe the composer of The Bar-room Mountaineers was Davey Clark(e?). Jack Foley has written the lovely Lassie O The Mornin' and the great Bottle O The Best - dont know if he's composed any more?
Try to find a recording of The Inverscotia Nomads (or Inverscotia Singers) as they had some brilliant songs in their repertoire


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 03 Aug 18 - 11:36 AM

Here is a comic song I found ... but no mention of y-fronts!

Barroom Mountaineers
Davey Clark
In Drymen Square so fair and fine
There stands a shop that sells good wine
It's full of whisky, wine and beer
And so are the barroom mountaineers
We're the barroom mountaineers

If you hear a tally-ho, tally--ho, tally-ho
In the middle of the night, in the middle of the night
Don't tremble so, dear hostelite
Just close your eyes and have no fear
It's only a drunken mountaineer
We're the barroom mountaineers

We've never ever climbed a great big hill
And we hope tae hell we never will
For the highest we've climbed is a windae sill
We're the barroom mountaineers

Don't be afraid to look us over
We are very seldom sober
And when we've had enough for four
You'll never see us on the floor
It's up to the bar and yell for mo-o-o-o-ore
We're the barroom mountaineers

From the shores of Balmaha, from the shores of Balmaha
To the hills of Aberfoyle, to the hills of Aberfoyle
From Drymen Square to Glasachoile
We're famous everywhere we go
As a shower of drunken so-and-sos
We're the barroom mountaineers

( The tune changes for each verse)

As sung by Ewan McVicar


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 03 Aug 18 - 12:12 PM

Hi Joe,

Does Ted think the song refers to Glencoe specifically? By virtue of it being a "glen" it might be difficult to climb!

Apart from "The Massacre of Glencoe" I cannot think of another song that mentions Glencoe, however a song that does mention other "glens" is the comic song about whisky (Leave Us Our Glens).

The only other song I can think of is of Welsh origin I believe, and here it is, sung to the tune of "The Streets of Laredo" ...


The Climber's Lament

One day when out climbing the steep cliffs of Cloggy,
The steep cliffs of Cloggy I wandered one day
I met a young climber wrapped up in white linen,
Wrapped up in white linen as cold as the clay.

He said you're a climber, I see by your outfit
That you are a climber as so once was I,
So tarry a while while I tell you a story,
How I fell from the Bow and I'm going to die.

Yes out on those grey slabs I used to go dancing
Out on those grey slabs I used to go gay
But out on those grey slabs I went once too often
And I fell from the Bow and I'm going to die

Give me six stalwart climbers to carry my coffin
And six pretty maidens to sing me a song
Play the drum slowly and play the fife lowly
I'm just a young climber who knows he's done wrong

Bury me deep by the steep cliffs of Cloggy.
Bury me deep where the wild ravens call,
And lay me a sod on my head as a tombstone
To deaden the screams of my friends as they fall.


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Subject: ADD: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Aug 18 - 01:30 PM

It's obviously the same song as Guest posted just above, but the differences are significant.

Here's Ted's response:

Hi Joe,

Attached words as I remember. I vividly remember a guy singing this in the Clackhaig while standing on the table at the left hand end of the bar. Probably 1965, as it my cousins 21 birthday, and we were up there for it. It was not sung often, as its a short but very moving piece, but was a complete bar stopper back then. Made you think. Possibly saved lives, who can say.

Anyway, Its time it was put on record somewhere. It is genuine, I cannot claim anything other than the memory. Robin Hall and Jim McGregor, the folk duo, were there occasionally, and if you have any contact with them they may remember it. I think one of them's sister got married in Glencoe about then.

Regards,
Ted.



Glencoe Climbing Song

Remembered from the mid 1960s from nights in the Clackhaig hotel.
Author unknown. Probably sung to "The Streets of Laredo"

As I was climbing the Buchaille one morning
As I was climbing the Buachaille one day
I spied a poor climber
All clad in white linen
All clad in white linen, and cold as the clay

I see by your outfit that you are a climber
These words he did say as I passed on my way
Come sit here beside me
I'll tell you my story
I've fallen today and I know I must die

On these rugged red rocks I've climbed since my boyhood
I knew every climb on the great Rannock wall
But on the great Red Slab
I've climbed once too often
My foot missed a hold and to the ground I did fall

Take heed all you climbers that hear my sad story
Make the most of today, for tomorrow you may die
Take care on your chimneys
And on your traverses
Be sure of your hold on the mountain so high.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 03 Aug 18 - 02:01 PM

Hi Joe,

So glad you found the right version of the right song! Well done!

I did try Google (and other search engines!) for "Glencoe Climbing" but nothing came up!

However, positive outcome ... so happy for you.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: GUEST,Gallus Moll (away from home!)
Date: 03 Aug 18 - 03:29 PM

That streets of laredo sad song is vaguely familiar, tho who knows when the memory will surface?!
One point tho...Clachaig and Rannoch...in Scotland we have the 'chchch' sound!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: Gutcher
Date: 03 Aug 18 - 04:08 PM

The Davey Clark song is not the one I remember.
The Clachaig Inn was mentioned and the pseudo climber was described as wearing all the "in" climbing gear of the time down to his Bonnington Y Fronts. Never having heard of Bonnington I had to question the reference hence my remembering that part of the song.
If Jack did not compose it he certainly sang it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: John Moulden
Date: 03 Aug 18 - 04:56 PM

There must be mountaineering club song books that contain a, probably, longer version of the Glencoe song. I have a couple, Gestetenered volumes, Queens University Belfast Mountaineering Club and Leeds University Union Mountaineering Club. The latter contains the Clogwyn version given above. I suggest searching the National Library of Scotland catalogue or those of the University Libraries using the terms "Climbing (or Mountaineering)Club song book". I might try it myself.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: GUEST,GUEST, Ted.
Date: 03 Aug 18 - 05:03 PM

Thanks guys. The similarity to the Welsh version is striking. I did think I had a verse missing, and the fourth verse of the Welsh could just be dropped in.
Whatever, I hope you can list it. I would like to think it can now be preserved for another generation. Thanks to all of you.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: GUEST,weerover
Date: 03 Aug 18 - 05:12 PM

Jack used to sing a song to the tune of "Hot Asphalt" (Mick McGuire), which I believe he wrote, which referred to "bar room mountaineers". I can remember very little except a couple of lines which went something like "the female of the species is more deadly than you think, for at least the men will sometimes buy you back a drink".


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: Gutcher
Date: 04 Aug 18 - 06:04 AM

I phoned one of my friends, who is on a months climbing holiday in Norway at the moment, yesterday evening. He, like me, is inclined to the opinion that the humourous song "The Bar-room Mountaineer" was composed and sung by Jack Foley. He will be emailing some of the climbing fraternity who may have the words to it.
A female cousin of mine has a son who now runs the Clachaig Inn. I will ask her to speak to her son to see if they have a copy of the song at the Inn.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: John Moulden
Date: 04 Aug 18 - 09:59 AM

Some books possibly worth consulting:

All in the National Library of Scotland (Try Aberdeen or Glasgow University Libraries?)

Edinburgh mountaineering song book.
Edinburgh University Mountaineering Club.
1955
GB.1329(27)
Available, Special Collections Reading Room: stored in George IV Bridge

Edinburgh University Mountaineering Club song book.
Edinburgh University Mountaineering Club.
1955
GB.1332(15)
Available, Special Collections Reading Room: stored in George IV Bridge

St. Andrews University Mountaineering Club song book / compiled by S. Mason and D. Gibson.
University of St. Andrews. Mountaineering Club.
HP1.84.1504
Available, General Reading Room (stored in George IV Bridge)

Edinburgh University Mountaineering Club songbook compiled by Gordon Stewart
Other title:The EUMC ding dong book
5th ed
Publication details:[Edinburgh] Edinburgh University Mountaineering Club [1980?]Consult in:General Reading Room (stored in George IV Bridge)
Shelfmark: HP2.81.4236
Status:Available


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: John Moulden
Date: 05 Aug 18 - 03:23 PM

I've drawn blank in British Library, Aberdeen Univ., St Andrew's, Glasgow, Edinburgh and I could have saved myself the trouble because Copac: https://copac.jisc.ac.uk/ gives nothing but what's in NLS.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 06 Aug 18 - 10:07 AM

Joe,

I have a whole CD full of climbing songs, collected by Dennis Gray and Paul Cherry, Called "The Bar Room Mountaineers". It includes such Tom Patey Classics as "The Ballad Of Joe Brown" and "Onward Christian Bonington (of the BBC, if you name the Mountain, he will name the fee)".

There's a chunk about 20 minutes long taken from a cassette recorded in a bothy or bunkhouse, featuring the late great Tom Patey and others, but the quality is poor.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Glencoe Climbing Song
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 06 Aug 18 - 10:17 AM

This is the one:


The Barroom Mountaineers


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