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Australian Folk Song - Books

GUEST,George 11 Aug 18 - 03:19 AM
Jim Carroll 11 Aug 18 - 04:56 AM
GUEST,George 11 Aug 18 - 08:54 AM
Sandra in Sydney 11 Aug 18 - 11:46 AM
Joe Offer 11 Aug 18 - 08:54 PM
Sandra in Sydney 11 Aug 18 - 11:05 PM
GUEST,George 12 Aug 18 - 01:31 AM
Jim Carroll 12 Aug 18 - 03:43 AM
Sandra in Sydney 12 Aug 18 - 08:19 AM
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Helen 13 Aug 18 - 05:41 PM
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Subject: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: GUEST,George
Date: 11 Aug 18 - 03:19 AM

I've been looking through my library and, to my shame, I have only two books on Australian folk songs.

Folkstream Songbooks lists over 200 but I can't afford them all even if I could locate them.

Could anyone suggest "essential" books so that I could add a good representation of the folk songs of Australia to my collection.

Many thanks.
George


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 11 Aug 18 - 04:56 AM

Don't know what you've got but I've always liked our copy of Ron Edwards' 'The |Big Book of Austrailian Folk Songs aaaand the two 'Folk Songs of Australia Meri=edith, Anderson, Covell, Brown)
The Penguin Book of Australian Folk Songs has been part of our collection since it was published
Most of these are still available and if you try The Book Depository they are usually reasonably priced and post-free
Good luck
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: GUEST,George
Date: 11 Aug 18 - 08:54 AM

The two I have are:

Meredith, John & Anderson, Hugh. Folk Songs Of Australia and the Men and Women Who Sang Them (1967).

Ward, Russel. Penguin Book of Australian Ballads (1964).

George


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 11 Aug 18 - 11:46 AM

George, you have 2 excellent books!


Warren Fahey & Graham Seal - Old Bush Songs. 2005
A special centenary edition of Banjo Paterson's collection of Australian
traditional ballads, with completely updated commentary on the songs.
Old Bush Songs, as it is universally known, has been through a
number of editions and is recognised as a classic of Australian
literature and folklore. First published by Angus & Robertson in
1905, it was subsequently revised and reprinted in over 15 editions
plus adaptations, with the last edition published in 1983.
This centenary edition celebrates Paterson's pioneering role and
documents the history of the book and its original songs. It includes
new material, illustrations and photographs, as well as background
information that helps bring these old songs to life for a modern
readership.
--------------

Hugh Anderson was a noted folklorist bibliography

bibliograpy - Folk Song, Poetry and Music


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Aug 18 - 08:54 PM

Back in 2000, with guidance from the estimable Bob Bolton, I acquired:
  • The Big Book of Australian Folk Song, by Ron Edwards (Rigby, 1976)
  • John Meredith's Folk Songs of Australia and the men and women who sang them (2 volumes), published in 1987 by the New South Wales University Press

Bob said these two books were the best. Here's what Bob said about John Meredith:

    "...Meredith songbooks are like reading a storybook. They're addictive..." That is the great difference between John Meredith and the 'editor' set. John was raised in that tradition and respected it. It was not a literary excursion into someone else's life. This led to a different approach and treatment (about which I found myself arguing - again -last Saturday night between venues at Jamberoo!).

    John had to sell his beloved camera to put down a deposit on a tape recorder (~1953) and it was a few years before he could obtain a Zeiss Contarex in the post WWII camera shortage. Once he had the camera, he completed his record with photographic portraits of the people who sang the songs and played the tunes.

    The National Library of Australia mounted and toured an exhibition of his images Real Folk and, a year or two back, brought out a book of the images. John's complete coverage is fascinating and an excellent antidote to the odd notions of our pioneers held by some revival singers.


And on my own, I acquired the two volumes of the Penguin Australian Song Book.

All good stuff - and just about the same as what Jim Carroll has, and I see that George (above) has two of the same books.

I wouldn't recommend The All-Time Favourite Australian Song Book (Angus & Robertson Publishers, 1984, no author listed), but the cartoons illustrations are cute and I bought it cheap.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 11 Aug 18 - 11:05 PM

articles about John Meredith from Bush Music Club Blog

John Meredith - author and photographer I recently found a copy of Reedy River Song book (The Songs from the Australian musical drama Reedy River, by Dick Diamond /? prepared by David E. Milliss and John Meredith; with the assistance of Stan Wakefield and Laurence Morris. 2nd ed. Sydney: New Theatre, 1960. Cover title: "Reedy River" song book) in archives so will have to scan the cover & update this article.

Bob Bolton Collection - Launch of Folk Songs of Australia, Vol. 2, 29th May 1987


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: GUEST,George
Date: 12 Aug 18 - 01:31 AM

Many thanks for these!

Please keep your suggestions coming.

George


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 12 Aug 18 - 03:43 AM

A few more from our shelf

Shocking, Shocking, Shocking (Imporoper play rhymes of Australian Children)
Wendy Lowenstien

Robust, Ribald and Rude Verse in Australia Bill Wannan

Farewell to old Englsnd (Transportation) Hugh Anderson)

Duke of the Outback Bill Meredith

Time out of Mind (biog of Simon McDonald of Crestwick Hugh Anderson

Australian Bush Ballads Douglas Stwewart and Nancy Keesing

Old Bush Songs Stewart and Keesing

True Patriots All or news from early Australia as told in a collection of broadsides - Geoffrey C Ingleton) (No songs but a fascinating background to Australian settlement)

Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 12 Aug 18 - 08:19 AM

small typo - Duke of the Outback was written by John Meredith

Have you read Duke's autobiography? HP (Duke) Tritton 'Time means Tucker' First published as a serial in The Bulletin, then as a book in 1959 & reprinted several times. Duke's daughter Linda McLean also wrote her autobiography "Pumpkin Pie & Faded Sandshoes" which was published in 1982.

Harold Percy Croydon (Duke) Tritton, 1886 - 1965

I'm currently working thru the gi-normous accretion of books called the Bush Music Club library - so far we've accessioned 575 & have at least 100 duplicates, and the only book mentioned so far that we don't have is Wendy Lowenstein's book.

Old Bush Songs was first published in 1905 & has been updated a number of times.

check out Brad Tate's books
Brad Tate was not simply a musician and a folk collector, but also one of Australia's leading folkloric scholars. He pursued a life-long study of Australian folk song, music and lore, contributing to academic journals and presenting workshops at many folk festivals. He authored and had published three books, while constantly researching and theorising about
the subject. Brad's goal was to eventually see the culmination of his life's work published in his major and final book, "Australian Folk Verse and Melody" which was released this year.

sandra


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Stewie
Date: 12 Aug 18 - 08:45 AM

Bill Scott's 'Complete Book of Australian Folk Lore' has not been mentioned. Plenty of used copies available:

Click .

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Helen
Date: 13 Aug 18 - 05:41 PM

My favourite Oz folk song books are the two Meredith et al. collections mentioned above. I credit the first book with bringing me into the world of folk music, way back in the mid '60's when I used to borrow it from the library and try to play the tunes on a plastic whistle we were learning to play at primary school.

Sandra, there is a launch for Brad Tate's book on 8 September at Teralba Community Hall. Brad Tate was a founding member of the Newcastle Hunter Valley Folk Club. Lots of people have fond memories of his playing and of his vast knowledge of folk music.

Brad Tate Book Launch and Bush Dance

(As an aside, I found out that
Sally Sloane , one of the featured musicians in Meredith's book lived at Teralba at a later stage of her life.)

I would also recommend Chris Kempster's book, The Songs of Henry Lawson

Helen


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 13 Aug 18 - 07:50 PM

Julie sent us info on the launch, & I've spread the word. This book is one of many I'm (allegedly) currently reading. Fortunately I've almost finished the current book ...

Helen, looks like you might need 2nd edition, Songs of Henry Lawson, 2007 as it has more songs!


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 13 Aug 18 - 08:46 PM

This has sod all to do with the thread and is shamelessly opportunistic, but I wonder whether any of our Oz compatriots have come across my old mucker Bernard Carney, who lives in Perth and who has made a modest living for the last half-century out of singing folk-style songs, admittedly many of his own composition,accompanying himself on guitar. He's made a good few albums too. I believe he also runs a sort of people's socialist choir in Perth. He was in my class at school in Bolton in the sixties and he and I quaffed many a pint or eight at the Two Tubs in Bury and the Lower Nag's in Bolton. In recent years he's stayed at my house in Cornwall and I've been to his house in Perth. He does come back to Blighty every couple of years and pays his fare by doing gigs here and there. He's a lovely feller. OK, thanks for that. I'll just crawl back into me 'ole...


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Aug 18 - 10:28 PM

Threads like this give me a chance to look through my treasures and enjoy them all over again. The best of the lot for me is John Meredith's Folk Songs of Australia and the men and women who sang them (2 volumes), published in 1987 by the New South Wales University Press. This isn't just a songbook - it's an adventure through Australian song.

If you'd like some good exposure to Australian folk songs, take a look at John Thompson's Australian Folk Song a Day.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 04:58 AM

come back, Steve - Bernard is an excellent songwriter & entertaining singer & I've seen him at Festivals & have a number of his albums. Bernard & Eleanor's Working Voices choir

Joe & George, John Meredith was one of the first collectors of traditional Australian songs & tunes in the early 50s when some folks (usually of a left persuasion) got annoyed at the increasing Americanisation of Australia. Unfortunately the influence is deeper today & these songs are usually only heard at folk festivals & folk clubs.

Wikipedia on John Meredith
National library holdings -John Meredith
Review- More than a life: John Meredith and the fight for Australian Tradition by Keith McKenry


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 01:07 AM

Following on with Steve Shaw's shamelessly opportunistic thread creep, I've been privileged over the years to see and hear Bernard in action at festivals, and have also enjoyed singing some of his songs, mostly of the rousing 'Union' variety. Dinner at his house one night was cooked by Bernard while Eleanor and I spent time searching through boxes of documents - have no idea what for. Wonderful times, wonderful music and two wonderful people.
YIU
gecko
(or 'Brummie Jan' to Bernard, who it appears, was possibly served by me in Lloyds Bank at The Priory in Birmingham sometime in the sixties)


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: GUEST,George
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 02:32 AM

My thanks to all those who have taken the time to list books. Certainly a good few to sharpen my book-hunting skills.

I'm not one to over-pay for my books; my library wouldn't be as extensive as it is if I did. Although I want them all NOW, my financial situation compels me to wait for affordable copies.

Kind regards
George


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 06:13 AM

used is best!


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Aug 18 - 07:42 PM

Ah, thanks, Sandra and Guest (especially for forgiving the thread creep)! Bernard and Eleanor are indeed wonderful and it's grand to know that he's much-appreciated in Oz. The gap between us leaving school at 18 and meeting up again in Perth was over thirty years, and naturally we'd both changed a fair bit, but he's still the same amusing, fun-loving, down-to earth bugger he was at school. Cheers!


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: JennieG
Date: 16 Aug 18 - 12:05 AM

I have a copy of "The song goes on: contemporary Australian folksongs" edited by Lynne Tracey. Contents here

Alastair Hulett's "No half measures" is also the subject of a current thread.


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: rich-joy
Date: 18 Aug 18 - 06:04 PM

continuing thread creep ...

Bernard and Eleanor are living in Carlisle, within a mile of where I grew up! My late and much lamented Beloved was a friend, particularly through us all working at the annual Woodford Folk Festival.
B&E are much respected and well-liked!

Cheers! R-J


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: rich-joy
Date: 18 Aug 18 - 06:06 PM

Oh, and I have Big Mobs of FS books, including Oz-NZ, but at present they're packed away, so sorry, can't contribute much at present!
R-J


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Aug 18 - 07:39 PM

For the sake of UK readers, that's the Carlisle district of Perth WA, not Carlisle in Cumbria! ;-)


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 07:47 AM

Sandra
> Brad's goal was to eventually see the culmination of his life's work published in his major and final book, "Australian Folk Verse and Melody" which was released this year.

> This book is one of many I'm (allegedly) currently reading.

The launch is next month and I can't find it for sale. Do you have a pre-release copy?


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 19 Aug 18 - 10:41 AM

Kerry Tate & Dave Johnson spoke about it at the National Folklore Conference at Easter & I got my copy then. Brad's folk club is having a local release.


Brad Tate: Australian Folk Verse and Melody

David Johnson with Kerry Tate

Brad Tate was a well-known Australian folklorist, performer and collector. Prior to his recent death he was working on a book titled Australian Folk Verse and Melody, in which he drew on his extensive knowledge and library to explore the background to Australian folk songs and the tunes that were used for them. It was hoped that Brad could have been at the conference to launch his book but as his health made travel unlikely his wife Kerry arranged to video record him introducing himself and his work. This session will launch the book (of some 300 pages) and present the video of Brad talking through an introduction to it. Dave, Kerry and some fellow musicians will prove Brad’s work lives on by playing some of the tunes from his earlier publication, Down and Outback. Finally, folklorist Mark Gregory will offer a few words about Brad’s contributions and call for brief recollections from the floor.

Copies of the book will be available for purchase.


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Bruce D
Date: 20 Aug 18 - 07:16 PM

One of my Favourite Australian books of Folk Songs is Old Bush Songs, Complied by Stewart and Keesing along with their companion book Old Bush Ballards.

There is also a shorter version of Old Bush Songs, called Favourite Bush Ballards.

All are published by Angus & Robertson under the Australian Classic label.

I've been carrying copies of all these with me for nearly forty years either in hardcover or paperback and they are currently some of the few books I've retained as I start my wandering as a grey nomad (along with the full collected verse of Henry Lawson).

Bruce D


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Bruce D
Date: 20 Aug 18 - 07:27 PM

I should also add that of all the collectors and publishers of Australian Folk Songs and Verse, Ron Edwards has nearly forty to fifty titles to his name. Most of his works are to do with Bush Craft but he was a collector of Bush Verse and Song in the Far North Queensland area, and many of the versions of song he collected reflected the FNQ regional variations.

Bruce D


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Ian Hayden
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 07:05 AM

I've been trying to buy a second-hand copy of Vol.2 of Meredith's 'Folk Songs of Australia' for a while. If anyone knows of a reasonably priced copy for sale in Australia then please let me know.

Ian


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 08:00 AM

Another one from Ron Edwards,' The Overlander Songbook ' an absolute treasure trove of Australian songs.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 01:43 PM

Could anyone till me if the words to the following song are written in any of the books mentioned.
Even people living in the town don't seem to know the,.
The Lass of Yackandandah


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 08:29 PM

Ian, we might have a spare copy when I finally sort out the Library as we've acquired many duplicates over the decades. I'll email you.

Dennis - I'll ask around
lyrics The Lass of Yackandandah -TheCourier (Hobart) 22Jun1857, p.3

earlier thread, 2014

Questions over the lass, the pub and the poem

It's not in Mark Gregory's Australian Folk Songs so I'll sent him the TROVE link

sandra


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 23 Aug 18 - 09:31 AM

Sandra thanks, I've been to Yackandandah, but unfortunatly that was before I heard about this song.
I was hoping that some one had recorded it or knew the tune it is set to.
I am still awaiting Chris from Yackandandah contacting me after the earlier thread but nothing so far. Lets hope you manage to ask the person who knows
Dennis


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: GUEST,George
Date: 18 Sep 18 - 04:03 AM

Sandra,

Is Brad Tate's "Australian Folk Verse and Melody" generally available?

I've searched tinternet and the only reference I can find for it being on sale is at the Australian Folklore Conference at Easter.

George


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 18 Sep 18 - 06:35 AM

It's available from his widow & I only have a phone number for her, but you'd be able to contact her thru the Newcastle & Hunter Valley Folk Club

sandra


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Helen
Date: 18 Sep 18 - 04:25 PM

Hi George,

The print run was very small but it's possible that another printing will be done. There may not be any copies left but the N&HVFC is the correct contact to find out if they still have any copies. At 15 Sept there were only 15 copies left.

One of the club members wrote this, "It is truly an amazing book... as far as I know there's nothing like it in the Australian folk canon... a serious treatise on Australian folk song."

Helen


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Howard Jones
Date: 19 Sep 18 - 02:12 PM

The book which first got me into folk song was the improbably titled "Burl Ives Folio of Australian Folk Songs" , now available online through the State Library of Victoria. My copy cost 6/- though.

I wasn't particularly interested in folk music and hadn't really heard very much, but I was a teenage novice guitarist at a time when pop music had gone weird and psychedelic and I was struggling to reproduce what I heard on 'Top of the Pops' on an acoustic guitar with my few chords. When I came across this book in my local music shop I realised this was stuff I could play. This led me to the Spinners, Radio 2's 'Folk on Friday' programme, and a lifelong interest in traditional music.

Joe Offer sez: Try this "persistent link": http://handle.slv.vic.gov.au/10381/182366


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Helen
Date: 19 Sep 18 - 04:21 PM

Interesting. How Burl Ives popularised Australian folk songs

It reminds me of the UK rock musicians like Eric Clapton who were singing old blues songs and reintroduced the original African-American singers to the American public, according to the documentary series called Jazz, directed by Ken Burns.


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 19 Sep 18 - 10:09 PM

Howard, your link does not work - An error has occurred. The folder is a pdf download at http://digital.slv.vic.gov.au/, so maybe that is why the link doesn't work.

I found it using a Google search for Burl Ives Folio of Australian Folk Songs site:slv.vic.gov.au

We have a copy in the Bush Music Club library - tho not a pristine copy like this one. The songs came from an appeal Dr Percy Jones made in a Melbourne newspaper & the following books is about those songs.

Keith McKenry Australia's Lost Folk Songs. The treasures that slipped through Percy Jones's fingers.. Rams Skull, 2008 Australian Folklore - Occasional Paper no.25 copies available here

A scholarly work of serious note. This book detailing about 50 Australian folk songs and fragments of many others is published by the Rams Skull Press, and produced under McKenry's own Fanged Wombat Productions. It's #25 of a series of papers known as Australian Folklore Occasional Papers, published by Rams Skull Press.

McKenry's aim was to present a range of folk songs that seemed to have slipped under the guard of contemporary Australian folk singers. He used fragments of songs published in the Sun News-Pictorial in 1940, where readers provided verses of songs they had heard or sung themselves. McKenry then sourced many of them putting them in context, detailing the history of each song, each fully referenced with words, music and guitar chords. The book is illustrated by, and dedicated to, the late Ron Edwards. There is a comprehensive bibliography, references used, cross references and annotated remarks. In his introduction, McKenry asserts that many early collectors of Australian folk songs, or bush songs, ignored songs that originated in urban areas.

McKenry also notes that many songs from states other than the 3 main Eastern were not collected either. However in the early 40's an appeal was put in the Sun News-Pictorial for readers to send in Australian folk songs they knew. Unfortunately the requestor did not follow up many of the leads which leads McKenry research to piece together scraps or fragments of songs. As a person who is interested in documenting and archiving Australian music, I welcome this book. It would be of interest to those of you who have an interest in learning new songs or learning about where folk songs originated. Review by Chris Spencer


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: DaveJohnson
Date: 22 Sep 18 - 10:55 PM

Re Lass from Yackandandah
I have just added it to my 2nd edition of Old and Not So Old Bush Songs with a setting to the Girl I Left Behind Me/ Brighton Camp.
If anyone is interested I'll post the abc file. In the meantime all the songs in the first edition are available on my website in abc (good for adapting keys to suit; pdf and midi.
Dave Johnson Old Bush Songs Index
There are about 260 songs in the first edition and there will be ~320 in the next. I have adapted the original format so that the words of at least the first verse are under the music.
Dave


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: andymac
Date: 24 Sep 18 - 09:11 AM

Dave H, I was about to mention the Overlander Songbook as well, though not being home, couldn't recall the author.
By complete coincidence to this thread, I picked up a 2 volume copy of "Complete verse of A J (Banjo) Paterson" at the weekend in a 2nd hand bookshop.

Andy


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 24 Sep 18 - 10:54 AM

Iv'e got ' The Collected Verse of AB Paterson ' picked it up in a charity shop, It's a 1984 edition, 48th printing. You can get some great books in charity shops.


Dave H


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 24 Sep 18 - 11:04 AM

Just looking through one of my bookcases I've also got,' Bush Ballads of Australia ' published by The Currawong Press, another charity shop find, no tunes included mind.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 24 Sep 18 - 12:20 PM

Hi Dave Johnson,
thanks its great to have a tune that will assist me in my attempt to sing "Lass from Yackandandah". I have a feeling it will not be easy to master. Have you sung it yourself?
Could you please post the abc file as offered I am sure it will help although I don't read music or play an instrument, only sing. I do however have some talented friends here in Yorkshire who I am sure will assist me.
It will certainly remind me of the Day spent in Yackandandah a few years ago.
Thanks also to Sandra for your continuing assistance.
Dennis


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Helen
Date: 24 Sep 18 - 04:26 PM

There is some good info including midi files or sound clips here:

http://folkstream.com/songs.html

Unfortunately "Lass from Yackandandah" is not there.

According to info in this 2014 thread it is a poem, but not a song. Dennis the Elder posted in that thread too. Well, two different poems.

Origins: The Lass of Yackandandah


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 24 Sep 18 - 09:24 PM

Dave Hanson - this one?
Bush Ballads of Australia published by The Currawong Press


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: DaveJohnson
Date: 25 Sep 18 - 02:37 AM

Lass from Yackandandah abc file as requested.
X:1
T:Lass from Yackandandah, The
C:Words from The Melbourne Punch 1857, the setting is 'The Girl I Left Behind Me'. This lass inspired at least two poems.
M:2/4
L:1/8
K:Gmaj
g/f/|"G"ed BG|"Am"AG E>F|"G"GG GB|"D7"d2 B
w:Let_ po-ets sing of Eng-lish girls, their beaut-y and their can-dour;
g/f/|"G"ed BG|"Em"BG E>G|"D7"FA DF|"G"G2 G
w:Give_ me a sweet-er nymph than all, the lass of Yack-an-dan-dah.
A|"G"Bd ef|"Em"gd BG|"G"Bd ef|"C"g2"D7"f
w:When dress'd in all her Sun-day best, no Mel-bourne belle looks grand-er;
d|"G"ed BA|"Em"BG E>G|"D7"FA DF|"G"G2 G|]
w:In sheen-y Sab-bath sat-in shines the lass of Yack-an-dan-dah.
W:
W:Her spotless name hath never known one touch or taint of slander,
W:Though barmaid at the 'Harrow' is the lass of Yackandandah.
W:I'd like to see the man who'd dare with calumny to brand her,
W:He'd find he'd got his match in her, the lass of Yackandandah.
W:
W:Her tongue subdues us, one and all, we dare not reprimand her;
W:Each brawling sot is mute before the lass of Yackandandah.
W:The lazy landlord long has ceased the effort to command her;
W:And in the 'Harrow' reigns supreme the lass of Yackandandah.
W:
W:She draws a cork with such an air, no mortal can withstand her;
W:She turns a tap, and turns our heads, the lass of Yackandandah.
W:When she's behind the bar, I stand and stare, like any gander;
W:Whereat, she calls me silly goose, the lass of Yackandandah.
W:
W:For her dear sake a goose I'd be, a bunyip, salamander,
W:Or anything, in short, to win the lass of Yackandandah.
W:I wish I were Belshazzar, or the Emp'ror Alexander,
W:My crown I'd lay at her dear feet, the lass of Yackandandah.
W:
W:My wages all in drinking healths to her, I weekly squander,
W:Yet cannot drown my passion for the lass of Yackandandah.
W:Her coldness is enough to raise an angel's bile or dander,
W:She'll be the death of me I know, the lass of Yackandandah.


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 25 Sep 18 - 02:43 AM

Bush Ballads of Australia, that's the one Sandra, great book.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Australian Folk Song - Books
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 25 Sep 18 - 10:15 AM

Thanks, Dave Johnson
Dennis


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