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earliest recordings of Irish singers?

GUEST,A 21 Aug 18 - 04:42 AM
Jim Carroll 21 Aug 18 - 04:53 AM
Jim Carroll 21 Aug 18 - 05:21 AM
GUEST,Derrick 21 Aug 18 - 05:46 AM
GUEST,A 21 Aug 18 - 06:21 AM
GUEST,Peter Laban 21 Aug 18 - 07:56 AM
GUEST,Peter Laban 21 Aug 18 - 12:17 PM
Jim Carroll 21 Aug 18 - 12:29 PM
GUEST,Peter Laban 21 Aug 18 - 01:45 PM
Thompson 22 Aug 18 - 06:44 AM
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Subject: earliest recordings of Irish singers?
From: GUEST,A
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 04:42 AM

Hi,

I'd like to learn more about the earliest recordings of Irish singers that exist.

I know John McCormack made his first recording in 1904 but I'm looking for singers who sang in a traditional/folk style.

I'm aware of the Doegen recordings which were made between 1928 and 1931.
https://www.doegen.ie/
They are all non-commercial recordings and Irish language material.

Anybody know of singers from around that time or earlier?

Commercial or Non-Commercial.
Irish language or English language.

Thanks,
A


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Subject: RE: earliest recordings of Irish singers?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 04:53 AM

THere was an excellent radio series presented by archivist Nicholas Carolan entitled 'The Irish Phonograph'
I remember the earliest examples of instrumental traditional music was a piper recorded at the end of the 19th centry
A cal to the Irish Traditional Music Archive in Dublin, founded by Nicholas and others, should answer your question precisely
I know there are other examples of early phonograph recordings there
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: earliest recordings of Irish singers?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 05:21 AM

THe earliest recordings of folk songs are probably held by the Folklore Department at University College, Dublin
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: earliest recordings of Irish singers?
From: GUEST,Derrick
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 05:46 AM

The Irish Traditional music archive has information on and examples of very early recorded irish music.
see link below.
https://www.itma.ie/features/discover/explore-early-sound-recordings-of-irish-traditional-music-at-itma


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Subject: RE: earliest recordings of Irish singers?
From: GUEST,A
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 06:21 AM

Oh yes, i nearly forgot!

ITMA has digitised the Richard Henebry recordings from 1905.
https://www.itma.ie/features/playlists/itma-henebry-cylinder-recordings-1905

Many good examples of traditional singing.
All Irish langauge material.

Any early English language song recordings from Irish singers...in traditional or folk style?

thanks
A


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Subject: RE: earliest recordings of Irish singers?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 07:56 AM

I was thinking of the Henebry cylinders as well. I have been familiar with the recordings of Padraig O'Neill for a long time. Henebry wrote about him as well in his magnum opus. Powerful singer, and very young at th time of the recording too.

University College Cork did a project on the Henebry cylinders, which I believe they hold, all cylinders used to be online but I can't find the site right now.


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Subject: RE: earliest recordings of Irish singers?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 12:17 PM

I found the UCC collection of Henebry's material : here . Unfortunately, in this context only though, they don't have any of the singers Henebry recorded.


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Subject: RE: earliest recordings of Irish singers?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 12:29 PM

"Any early English language song recordings from Irish singers...in traditional or folk style?"
I know some was done in the early part of the 20th century in North Clare
My late friend, Tom Munnelly used to use a Folklore Department photograph of a collector pushing a wheelbarrow containing a pile of recording equipment that was taller than himself

There was a priest who went around on a bicycle recording local singers - I think in Waterford
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: earliest recordings of Irish singers?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 21 Aug 18 - 01:45 PM

The thing about the old Folklore commission cylinders, they were used for transcription, the collector sent them back to HQ in Dublin, once the transcription was done the wax was scraped and made ready for re-use before returning the cylinders to the collector in the field. This was still th practice when Seamus Ennis was working for them in the 1940s. I am not sure any recordings were kept at all.


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Subject: RE: earliest recordings of Irish singers?
From: Thompson
Date: 22 Aug 18 - 06:44 AM

When did the Folklore Commission start using wire recorders?


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