BS: Kavanaugh Investigation and Confirm?

Subject: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: robomatic
Date: 01 Oct 18 - 05:37 PM

Starting this one because the plot has sickened and I still wanna talk about it. I left the last thread a few days ago and someone closed it, no doubt due to a careless slip of a key finger.

Maybe they don't like beer. I like beer. Do you like beer? We were 18 so it was legal for seniors to drink beer. We drank many beers. Some maybe drank too many beers.

Do you like beer?

I just watched the John Oliver (Last Week Tonight) take on last Thursday's hearings which was even a little bit harsher than my take, which grew over time after Thursday until I was almost ready to ralph myself over the thought of that arrogant a-hole getting a seat on the highest court in the U.S.

So this thread is to continue the festivities while the returns come in.ans

Did the F.B.I. investigate the truthfulness of Kavanaugh's answers before Congress? Methinks not.

So I expect the returns will come in over whether the F.B.I. finds anyone who will attest to remembering events in conformance with either of the witnesses. Or persons mentioned by name as participants in the events of 36 years ago.
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Or was mentioned on one of the youthful Kavanaugh's calendars.

Now mind your manners, people, or someone's finger might slip on a key and end the next thread they don't like.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Oct 18 - 06:59 PM

Comity is anathema for the right robo. People have dared accuse the All American Jock of god ol boy behavior.
I fear he will re-reform and deform voting rights, women's rights and civil rights with his thirst and active participation in the W Bush torture policy.



Note to my antithesis;
I'm relatively in concordance with people who do not torture animals or people. I'm easy to get along with. People who have done vile things feel good defending Trump. It is practically a healing experience. Get well soon.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: meself
Date: 01 Oct 18 - 08:15 PM

Anyone know why that other thread was closed? It seemed relatively innocuous to me. Or was there some inappropriate stuff that got deleted?

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Oct 18 - 09:25 PM

It could be fake news based or it could be a whim that just felt right.
Who cares. Actually female participation was compromised with that title. My first impression remarks really said it all. (for a change)

There is no age requirement for the Supreme Court so I was thinking if Kavanaugh does not work out, a REAL spoiled frat boy could be nominated straight from college.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Oct 18 - 08:46 AM

Instead of a vote to change the Supreme Court and pass judgement on an abusive temperament this has become a referendum on beer. All those in favor of beer say Aye AYE! all those against say nay (crickets)
The Ayes have it.

Is it true you can simply cover up a white lie with a Wikipedia edit?

Instead of rule by law to help 'we the people' we will have a court based solely on financial interest and burying data/truth.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: robomatic
Date: 02 Oct 18 - 03:40 PM

Paul Krugman departs from being an econ savant to let us know what he really...

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Oct 18 - 08:16 PM

Internet trolls manufactured fake stories in an attempt to discredit Dr. Christine Blasey Ford's testimony.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 07:39 AM

Well I am in the UK, so I have no particular dog in this fight, but I think the contrast between Dr. Ford's testimony and Judge Kavanaugh's was stark. Dr. Ford was honest if at times uncertain, and told the truth as best she could. The tribute to her from Kamala Harris was powerful and I agree with every word of what she said.

Judge Kavanaugh's testimony reeked of male entitlement. Not republican, not white, but male. It is as a male he feels that he is entitled to do what he likes regarding Dr. Ford, including have powerful friends besmirch her name. My view is that whether he sexually assaulted Dr. Ford or not, the aggressive manner in which he delivered his testimony, his evasiveness (again when questioned by Kamala Harris), and the fact that he has clearly primed Trump to attack Dr. Ford on his behalf, makes him unfit for any office, let alone a public one.

Kamala Harris on the other hand is hugely impressive. Calm and forensic questioning, impassioned defence of someone whose name is being besmirched.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 09:21 AM

I suspect there were people who looked upon the fledgling 3rd Reich and thought they did not have a dog in that fight.
The base Trump-Cavanaugh appeals to is his white male base. The Southern expression of good ol boys and "they have their ways" are excuses for racism and mysogeny over the century. Polls have Bret and Donald with identical approval.

Last night Trump impersonated every woman who is a claimed victim or female Senator in such crude terms even you would not believe it.

Do not buy into the assumption that this is a he said she said case as advertised by Republicans.

Still Dave is correct that it is a male entitlement war on truth.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 10:36 AM

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/10/trump-mocks-and-imitates-christine-ford-at-campaign-rally.html

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 11:29 AM

You've arrived as a force to be reckoned with if Trump feels the need to try to put you down. That was Roy Cohn's first rule of getting ahead - dismiss others and claim a victory even if you lose.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: meself
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 11:42 AM

A couple of thoughts lifted from youtube comments:

"The only case Kavanaugh is qualified to judge is a case of beer. Let's see what he does with the precedent of Coors v. Budweiser."

"The only bench this lying drunk deserves is in the park."

[paraphrased]

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: David Carter (UK)
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 12:45 PM

I have been an infrequent visitor to the USA, but one thing that has struck me on the last couple of visits is how far US beer has come since the 1980s, when it really was Coors or Budweiser, and you would walk half way across town for an Anchor Steam. Loads of choice now, and good stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 03:24 PM

Buy a case of black label KAVA-NAW ! When you positively absolutely need to black out.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 04:52 PM

The Kavanaugh hearings, as with many of the accomplishments of the Trump Administration, have been a great occasion for comedy. The last Saturday Night Live opening was a classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRJecfRxbr8

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 04:53 PM

He is the Sham Pain of bottled anger.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: robomatic
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 07:13 PM

John Oliver spent the last episode of Last Week Tonight on the Kavanaugh part of the hearings.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: meself
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 08:51 PM

Trouble is, Kavanaugh is already a parody of himself - a living, walking parody.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 10:23 PM

And to think he walked among us before he moved to his gated community in Bethesda. 2424 Admiral Boulevard 20992 MD
Yes his house has pillars in front but its not really that grand.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 10:36 AM

The Trump reponse to Me Tooism is to make sexual assault great again and protect our boys in these scary times.

The FBI report was limited for format available time.
It is not top secret but is not to be released to the public.
The lieing continues via Senate republican tweet.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 10:40 AM

The New Yorker published a story last night by Jane Mayer and Ronan Farrow (who Trump blasted as "Ronan Sinatra")

Frustrated potential witnesses who have been unable to speak with the F.B.I agents conducting the investigation into sexual-assault allegations against Donald Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, have been resorting to sending statements, unsolicited, to the Bureau and to senators, in hopes that they would be seen before the inquiry concluded. On Monday, President Trump said that the Bureau should be able to interview “anybody they want within reason,” but the extent of the constraints placed on the investigating agents by the White House remained unclear. Late Wednesday night, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announced that the F.B.I. probe was over and cleared the way for an important procedural vote on Kavanaugh’s nomination to take place on Friday. NBC News reported that dozens of people who said that they had information about Kavanaugh had contacted F.B.I. field offices, but agents had not been permitted to talk to many of them. Several people interested in speaking to the F.B.I. expressed exasperation in interviews with The New Yorker at what they perceived to be a lack of interest in their accounts.

Deborah Ramirez, one of two women who have accused Kavanaugh of sexual abuse, said in an interview that she had been hopeful that her story would be investigated when two agents drove from Denver to Boulder, Colorado, last weekend to interview her at her lawyer’s office. But Ramirez said that she was troubled by what she perceived as a lack of willingness on the part of the Bureau to take steps to substantiate her claims. “I am very alarmed, first, that I was denied an F.B.I. investigation for five days, and then, when one was granted, that it was given on a short timeline and that the people who were key to corroborating my story have not been contacted,” Ramirez said. “I feel like I’m being silenced.”

The rest is at the article; I won't link because there is usually a paywall.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 12:03 PM

Careful, Donuel. You are showing your hatefulness, in an illegal fashion.

"Capitol Police on Wednesday evening arrested a Democratic congressional staffer who allegedly doxxed a handful of Republican senators and then posted their personal information online.

Jackson Cosko, 27, was charged with making public restricted personal information, witness tampering, threats in interstate communication, unauthorized access of a government computer, identity theft, second-degree burglary and unlawful entry, although additional charges could be added.

Cosko most recently worked for Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) but has also been a staffer with Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH) and former Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Fox News reported.

The charges come after Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's home addresses in Kentucky and Washington, D.C. were added to his public Wikipedia page. "

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 12:35 PM

The New York Times
   
For Once, I’m Grateful for Trump

"For the first time since Donald Trump entered the political fray, I find myself grateful that he’s in it. I’m reluctant to admit it and astonished to say it, especially since the president mocked Christine Blasey Ford in his ugly and gratuitous way at a rally on Tuesday. Perhaps it’s worth unpacking this admission for those who might be equally astonished to read it.

I’m grateful because Trump has not backed down in the face of the slipperiness, hypocrisy and dangerous standard-setting deployed by opponents of Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court. I’m grateful because ferocious and even crass obstinacy has its uses in life, and never more so than in the face of sly moral bullying. I’m grateful because he’s a big fat hammer fending off a razor-sharp dagger.

A few moments have crystallized my view over the past few days.

The first moment was a remark by a friend. “I’d rather be accused of murder,” he said, “than of sexual assault.” I feel the same way. One can think of excuses for killing a man; none for assaulting a woman. But if that’s true, so is this: Falsely accusing a person of sexual assault is nearly as despicable as sexual assault itself. It inflicts psychic, familial, reputational and professional harms that can last a lifetime. This is nothing to sneer at.

The second moment, connected to the first: “Boo hoo hoo. Brett Kavanaugh is not a victim.” That’s the title of a column in the Los Angeles Times, which suggests that the possibility of Kavanaugh’s innocence is “infinitesimal.” Yet false allegations of rape, while relatively rare, are at least five times as common as false accusations of other types of crime, according to academic literature.

Since when did the possibility of innocence become, for today’s liberals, something to wave off with an archly unfeeling “boo hoo”?"

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/for-once-i%e2%80%99m-grateful-for-trump/ar-BBNUIj1?ocid=ientp

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: meself
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 01:01 PM

The Republicans have been able to narrow all the questions of Kavanaugh's suitability to the highest court in the land to that of an accusation of sexual assault. Anyone who saw his disgraceful, ridiculous performance in front on the Senate is aware that the only court he might belong on is in a gymnasium.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 03:00 PM

help me brucie beard Kenobi you are my only hope to be bailed out of jail. Some one alerted the FBI of my mudcat post.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 04:18 PM

And there is more documented evidence for YOUR crime than the accusations you make about Justice Kavanaugh...



From: Donuel - PM
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 10:23 PM

And to think he walked among us before he moved to his gated community ...

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 04:45 PM

myself,

It looked like righteous anger at being falsely accused of something to me.

It was the Dems who were cringing at having their actions brought to light.

IMT, of course.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 04:52 PM

that should be meself- sorry about that.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 07:38 PM

SO IT WAS YOU who informed ! cringe cringe woe is me
oh lambs of mercy sake. Mercy Mercy let me out I don't belong here/
why don't you dunk me in water and see if I float.

Surely believing my eyes is not a crime
Are we in a dictatorship? or what

See the violence inherent in the system See the violence inherent in Bruce's system. Are you really a good person.

"what goes around comes around for you Senator"
Brett Kavanaugh at his job interview.

For the record what is my crime again

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 07:50 PM

Not I. No need, when you make obviously hate-filled comments all the time- I am sure you are on a number of watch lists.

No violence in MY system- it is the Left providing hate, abuse, unsubstantiated accusations, personal attacks, and lies.

Let he who is without sins cast the first stone- YOU have never demonstrated a sin-less demeanor*.

For the record: YOUR crime is doxing Kavanaugh- Shall we put your address out and see if there is anyone who wants to attack you and/or your family at home?

"Jackson Cosko, 27, was charged with making public restricted personal information"

Isn't it child abuse to refuse to have your kid(s) vaccinated? Isn't proper medical care a requirement?



*synonyms:

manner · air · attitude · appearance · look · aspect · mien · cast · bearing · carriage · way of carrying oneself · behavior · conduct · way of behaving · comportment · deportment-

NOT as in you are demeaner than anyone else I know...

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: robomatic
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 08:57 PM

Again, one doesn't have to look overmuch- Kavanaugh lied to Congress, and to the rest of us watching.

Defining "Devil's Triangle."
Explaining "Renate Alumnius."

And his repetitive remarking about "4 people" found him innocent.

It is silly for him to be in this mess. But regardless of Dr. Ford's story, which is at least believable, he lied, obviously and more than once.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 06:15 AM

Are you certain I exposed Bret, Ace??? What have you got?
Brett exposed himself !

Two retired Supreme Court judges have asked for Kavanaugh to be rejected for the good of the court.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 07:22 AM

Bruce I know you can not hear me but your rancor is not your own. You take it from others who design rancor for you.
Perhaps there is some truth in that for all of us.

Do Democrats complain about rules they themselves approved? Yes.
Do Republicans complain about being caught cheating? yes.
But the issues are bigger than political hijinks.


You are by default saying "Make sexual assault great again.
You are supporting a liar who is not judicious, sober, or impartial.
The damage he has done to himself is Kafkaesque.

If not confirmed you will be blaming the wrong people that you are told to blame.
Find your own center.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Charmion
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 11:30 AM

You know, he could have stopped all this in its tracks if he had replied to Dr Blasey saying, "I was a drunken wastrel when I was young, and I could well have done what she says I did. As I grew older, I realized that I could not continue to drink so heavily and keep my job and family, so I cleaned up my act. I am terribly sorry for what I did."

But Kavanaugh would not be the man he is if it would occur to him to make that statement, or if he could say it truthfully.

Himself to whom I am married is a criminal lawyer, and sexual assault has been his bread and butter for years. He says Dr. Blasey is a very credible witness.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 11:59 AM

Yes yes and yes none of this would be happening if people showed up to vote

This country has been swayed overwhelmingly by the kkk and later by Dr. King. We denied women the vote and reversed the idea. The pendulum will continue to swing according to the capacity of our imagination and our pain.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: j0_77
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 01:14 PM

We shall know the outcome of the confirmation by Sunday October 7th 2018.

No matter where we stand on the issue, there is no need to continue bashing either the accuser or the accused.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: meself
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 02:21 PM

I take it you are quite certain that Kavanaugh will win - even if by the slimmest of possible margins ....

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 02:54 PM

That was my reading.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 04:02 PM

Yep. Its not the end of civilization, but you can see it from here.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 04:07 PM

D. Sen. Manchon was the deciding vote
When he was asked about his vote he said "I'm just a good 'ol West Virginia boy".


Ring a Bell ?

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm.
From: robomatic
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 07:13 PM

Well, people here are feeling good about Lisa Murkowski. I should amend that to say that the four liberals in Alaska feel positive about Our Lisa, and she will get Democratic votes next time her seat is up for renewal.
As for Kavanaugh, those same three/ four people are remembering how Earl Warren was nominated to be a conservative, but turned out to be a revelation for everybody.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 10:20 PM

Senator Collins however gave Bret an assumption of honesty in that -she assumes- he could not have possibly lied under oath under threat of perjury. But that is what criminals do very day. The woman was just outright ignored.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 18 - 10:31 PM

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/10/05/im-just-good-old-west-virginia-boy-sen-joe-manchin-becomes-only-democrat-support

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Oct 18 - 07:19 PM

Well, it is a done deal now. Investigated,
I almost printed
Infestigated! I like that one!

Ach, I'm punch drunk here.
It's done, they have sworn the man in as a justice.

I hate to think how much worse things will get.
As though they are not bad enough.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: j0_77
Date: 06 Oct 18 - 07:21 PM

6.00 PM CST October 6th 2018
Subject to Presidential action, Brett Kavanaugh has been elevated to SCJ by the Senate.

In a month we will have forgotten about the entire pathetic circus!

Dr. Ford will get a heaps of money in book, and movie, deals to add to her GFM million dollars,
whence she will then quietly fade into irrelevance as people get hooked on the next big news affair.

Meanwhile on Everyday & Normal Street, we the regular folks will get
screwed every which way by the same crooked lying system the enriches those people and impoverishes us.

One good thing about this outcome is that beer drinking is now more offensive to the loony left than smoking pot.

Now that's real news!

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Oct 18 - 08:18 PM

No, that's Fox News!
The issue was SEXUAL ASSAULT!

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Oct 18 - 09:37 PM

There's a big shadow over this fellow, though the crux is, at present, that he hasn't been convicted of anything. I'm trying to imagine what might have happened on this side of the pond. The shadow over him would surely have stayed the hand of the prime minister, who would not have relished the ensuing outcry had he been appointed. What evidence there is against him would have been assessed by the Crown Prosecution Service to see if there was a case to answer, or whether there was a reasonable prospect of conviction. While that was going on I can't see how he could have been appointed. Finally, I think that people of integrity under the pressure he's enduring would have gracefully stepped away from being considered for the job. He hasn't shown the grace or integrity to do that and he's also said some stupid things. Over here, he simply wouldn't have got the job. He's badly flawed, guilty or not. As a senior judge he should know a damn sight better. Bit late, I suppose.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 18 - 10:17 PM

He can be impeached, but that is a difficult process, and Trump needs to be impeached first.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: j0_77
Date: 06 Oct 18 - 11:02 PM

Earlier I posted this response, which has disappeared.

So again.

Re gillymor 's responce to me.
I do not have Cable, in fact I do not even own a TV set. How then could what I post be 'Fox News'?
I get my news off of the internet from MSN and Yahoo.

Please do not let your misreadings become accusations of the innocent!

#GuiltyByAccusation see it on Twitter.

Thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 12:27 AM

That isn't what you said before j0_77. It doesn't work often, but political threads simply won't last if personal insults start early on.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: DMcG
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 02:42 AM

In a month we will have forgotten about the entire pathetic circus!

Partly true, and partly not. There are enough scandals and dubious dealings that come next month our focus will be elsewhere, and this case will not be in any of the media. So, at a superficial level, it will be forgotten.

But it won't be forgotten by most of the women who have suffered abuse and see their perpetrators escape justice. Nor by Kavenaugh - and the media - when the first difficult judgements come up. Nor by Collins if her "he's a good chap really" speech proves to be threadbare in practice. Nor by those who she wants to vote for her.

Nor, perhaps, in the mid term elections.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: j0_77
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 03:21 AM

Re: SRS " That isn't what you said before j0_77. It doesn't work often, but political threads simply won't last if personal insults start early on. "

Please, what did I say before? Are you referring to my post that disappeared? I have no idea what you mean. Perhaps we should PM these sorts of misunderstandings?

Next, the Political angle. Well, is the title, and the tone of this thread not political? Or is it just a critical assessment of Justice Kavanaugh's character?

I get the impression that he has been condemned for what Dr. Ford accuses, and for being a boisterous beer drinking teen 36 years ago. However I do not believe that anybody I know did not do crazy stuff in their teenage years. In fact, looking at his life after he became an adult, I see nothing but a good person, and certainly nothing at all like others who as adults were caught with their pants down, and prosecuted for high crimes and misdemeanors, no names mentioned for the sake of folks feeling who still think that one famous man was indeed framed, and impeached for it.

Next; DMG you might be right, however only time can tell the doom of Teengate. About the Midterms, next month, I have a nice little cameo for you.

Here in Texas we have a Democrat revolution in Beto O'Rourke. He is very well liked by all, no party affiliation seems to dent his popularity. His opponent, Republican, Ted Cruze is not as well liked and to the same degree. I recall, 2016, folks calling him 'EL Culebra', The Snake, when he dissed Trump.

So if ever there was a state where the Republican Party gets their hat handed to them at the door, it looks like, this time, it will be Texas.

However, and this is yet more Politics, the sad Dr.Ford/Kavanaugh circus has hardened the Republican base, mainly the non-city, non-urban, areas where the Justice is becoming a hero. So you could be onto something there.

Thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: gillymor
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 06:21 AM

Once again, for those who have imbibed the conservative Kool Aid, the issue with Kavanaugh was/is SEXUAL ASSAULT not beer drinking.

Thank u.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 06:57 AM

Heard someone refer to the the USA as United Rapes of America last night
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 07:01 AM

The issue is alleged sexual assault. The man has not had the integrity and good grace to step away from aspiring to a post which demands the highest standard of objectivity, neutrality and integrity. Whether or not he committed the sexual assaults is almost (though not quite) a sideshow apropos of his appointment. He has failed on all three of those counts and is thereby totally unfit for office. Trump dug in on this and he dug in on this. Male hubris has won out. I wouldn't want Any Supreme Court judge in my country to be in post by dint of male hubris. This is a horrible backward step, along with Trump's election, the rise of the far right in many western countries and the nightmare of brexit. An even bigger nightmare is that this "victory" for Trump is a giant step towards his re-election.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: gillymor
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 07:28 AM

Or, it could be the first step towards his comeuppance. This "Victory", putting a suspected sex offender on the SCOTUS, may play well w/ his rock solid 30-35% but it's won at the expense of alienating and energizing even more women voters which in the mid-terms could result in a House that will be happy to look into all his administration's ethical misbehavior and his own corrupt dealings. In fact, now that this Kavanaugh thing seems to be a done deal the media can focus on the story the NY Times ran last week regarding all the tax fraud committed by the trump family.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: gillymor
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 07:59 AM

My point about SEXUAL ASSAULT was that those promoting Kavanaugh were pushing the notion that the only mark against him was youthful indiscretions brought on by his first encounters with adult beverages (aaah, but didn't we all go through that?) and at least one person on this site is parroting that misconception.. It was about SEXUAL ASSAULT.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 08:12 AM

Two repercussions on the appointment
Democrats are using the unpopularity of the decision to launch a campaign against Trump
Republicans are now demanding a change in American's abortion laws
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 08:16 AM

I am one hundred percent opposed to Trump and one hundred percent opposed to this appointment (even though it's none of my business). But this is about ALLEGED sexual assault. Until he's convicted, which I hope but doubt he will be, opposing him on the strength of your beliefs apropos of the accusations against him is not good enough. Attack him for his extreme partisanship, his lack of integrity, his misogyny and his shameless ambition in pursuing this post. He should have withdrawn and he didn't. That's what a man in his position with that the shadow over him should have done. And go after him fearlessly for the sexual assault. You won't get rid of him any other way. Good luck with that. The big guns are against you, but you have/had ammunition in other respects too.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: gillymor
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 08:30 AM

Good gawd, I'm talking about the false meme being spoon fed to to the truly faithful that the Kavavanaugh hubbub was about a youthful dalliance with beer. Maybe it didn't cross the Atlantic.
I'm an optimist regarding trump, I see the orange jumpsuit as half-full.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 08:37 AM

The proceedings were hearings, it wasn't a trial, but another feature of Kavanaugh's testimony is that he allegedly lied to congress. Aspects of his testimony are in dispute, including the charge of sexual assault, but also his drinking and how he glossed over or mis-represented the extent of it. There has been only one impeachment in the Supreme Court in US history and it didn't pass, but others have stepped down from office or excused themselves from consideration.

The senator from Texas is Ted Cruz. Be sure to vote him out of office on November 6.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 08:59 AM

While you are all so well informed bear in mind a defeat of the good ol boys will require a two to one vote against boys like Cruz to overcome the deformed voting rights act, Russian attacks, voter suppresion and gerrymandering designed by republicans.
Even then it will be close.

T minus 4 weeks.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 09:00 AM

"But this is about ALLEGED sexual assault. Until he's convicted, which I hope but doubt he will be, opposing him on the strength of your beliefs apropos of the accusations against him is not good enough. "
Until this matter has been settled Steve it has to be good enough
This appointment will affect the American judiciary system for generations to0 come and no vote should have been taken on such a serious matter until it had   - the immediate repercussions should make that clear
It is surely unprecedented for an American President to have maligned the witness while the enquiry was going on is surely prejudicial to the outcome and would be totally illegal in a British court - as the imprisonment of Tommy Robinson showed
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 09:14 AM

He has betrayed many aspects of his flawed personality and his partisanship that WOULD be good enough in any other regime save Trump's. In this country the man would have been so discredited that he would have been forced to withdraw weeks ago. But in Trump's America it seems that the more you're discredited the more it's to your credit. That's a main tenet of populism, Jim.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: gillymor
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 09:14 AM

That's another reason a massive turnout is essential. Here's hoping this Kavanaugh creep's appointment along with all of trump's inhumane, anti-common man policies and the ethical indiscretions of his administration will motivate people from all across the spectrum to vote against his cowed political party. Remember, it's one election at a time and I'm doing my best for Senator Bill Nelson here in Florida.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: gillymor
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 09:16 AM

I was responding to Donuel's post.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 09:28 AM

I have hesitated to discuss a secret hidden in plain political sight.
The politicians who win the PRESIDENCY are the funniest.

You can call it wit or crude entertainment but in every example of a President in my modern media life, it is the most amusing one that wins by hook or crook.

I can think of no one less amusing than Hillary and Trump is, sad to say, funny. Are people willing to choose amusement over substantive issues? I think so.

The democratic candidate will have to have the kutzpah to be as funny as possible while still sounding sane.

Well I have said it now. Think about it.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 09:43 AM

Remember 'funny' is relative to the other candidate.
And lastly we may have to show up in 3 to 1 numbers to just have some of our votes counted.

Ignore being called a mob or enemy of the people. You are the brave.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 12:27 PM

"It is unlikely that Congress has the power to impeach a sitting justice for alleged offenses he may or may not have committed while a private citizen and a teenager. It would be the first time in American history any impeachment went back that far and focused on such adolescent conduct.

Democrats may try to move it forward by alleging that the grounds for impeachment include perjury committed by nominee Kavanaugh in his testimony at his Senate Judiciary Committee confirmation hearing. Before his Supreme Court confirmation Kavanaugh was a sitting judge on the U.S. Circuit of Appeals for the District of Columbia subject to the impeachment power of Congress.

But that would be a ploy, somewhat akin to the phony perjury grounds used to impeach President Clinton. Democrats were outraged when Republicans used perjury as a surrogate for sexual improprieties. They should be similarly outraged if their colleagues seek to use perjury as a pretext for religitating old charges of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh."
By Alan Dershowitz

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 12:40 PM

"From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 28 Sep 18 - 04:29 AM

Yes, both Clinton and Kavanaugh appear to have committed shameful sexual crimes, but you seem to be confusing criminal prosecution with confirmation to the Supreme Court. In the Kavanaugh case, it's not a matter of "beyond a reasonable doubt." If a majority of senators vote against him, he doesn't get the job. There's no due process, and there shouldn't be."

And he got the majority of the votes, and the job. End of story.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: gillymor
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 12:44 PM

Instead of her another long, irrelevant cut and paste how about a blue clicky whose text includes the source.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 01:23 PM

Women don't worry your pretty little head about confirmation issues. "being a member of the judicial committe like my republican male colleges is very hard work"
Senator Grassly quote

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 01:33 PM

Surely whether Kavan-ugh is guilty or not guilty is totally rrelevant in te circumstances
The deliberate interference by Trump in smearing the accuser should have meant the enquiry was tainted and the verdict remains undecided
Trump should have been prosecuted for his behaviour - except he is above that sort of thing in ther UNited Rapes of America
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 03:40 PM

Quit changing the subject. This thread topic is Kavanaugh.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 03:43 PM

In Brucieworld, two wrongs appear to make a right.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 03:56 PM

i think you have to be a bit of a hypocrite to want to be a judge.

let he who's without sin cast the first stone and all that jazz...

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: robomatic
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 03:56 PM

Let's say that a candidate for high position/ office led an active life in their youth and was heedless at times. They may have regrets which they expiated by going forth in a positive, productive life. Then at some time, on the threshold of a major satisfying peak in that life, someone comes up with just enough of an accurate memory to remind them and the whole world of a past misdeed. . .

Two stories:

1) I read in a book of Jewish Tales how just after death our souls are put on trial. There is an accusing angel and a defense angel. A great philanthropist is on the seat of justice. All looks good, and then the accuser brings to testify a fly.
"What is your story, fly?"
"He swatted me for no reason!"

2) Lisa Simpson is daydreaming, in the future she is about to be sworn in as President of the United States of America. Just as the chief justice is about to swear her in, a newsman bring in the news that "Lisa Simpson received an F in second grade gym class!" The Chief Justice says: "In that case, I sentence you to live a lifetime of horror on Monster Island!" and then in an aside to Lisa: "Don't worry, it's just a name!" In the next scene she is being chased by fire breathing monsters, "But it was just a name!" The man running next to her says, "What he meant is that Monster Island is actually a peninsula!"

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Mossback
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 04:33 PM

In Re: From: Donuel, Date: 07 Oct 18 - 01:26 PM
Mossback I assume you know what a mossback is. :^\

Absolutely, Donuel - I do.

However, in this current world of rampant blocs of Trumpian cultists like Mr. Bruce of The Hirsute chin, , where "truth is not truth", where there are "alternative facts", where repeatedly lying under oath is not only acceptable but laudatory, where white women in the audience applaud "Agent Orange' Trump as he mocks and denigrates victims of sexual assault............

Well, hell, there's no reason definitions should be definitions.

THUS, I offer "Mossback" up in tribute to the Trumpist Mindless Cult.
best,

Bill

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 05:14 PM

Mossback is a good name in bizzaro world
signed Mr.Block

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 05:54 PM

Senator R. Mossback and Senator R. Grasshole were having a liquid lunch when vino veritas and martini courage got the best of them;

"Sho what kind of cases do you think Kavanknaw will make immortal Bob?"
Well Ray there is the obvious, do you mean 'will he surprise us'?
Well what do you mean, what kind of precedents will he bring back from the dead?
Good one Ray, ol resurrection Bret could revisit Plessy vs Ferguson.
Yeah how about the 3/5th rule for women.
Or the rule of thumb ? grin
HEHEhehaaw or slavery hic hic
Easy there pal you should slow down.
I like theses martoonies hic

Hey Bob do you ever worry we bit off more than we can chew?

Waiter- Kava. Naw Our power comes from eating them up and spitting them out while they scream 'thats unfair'. Yep keep em reacting Ray.
We'll do the real acting.

What if he turns liberal?
Impossible!! He is too pissed.
Perfect

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Mossback
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 06:17 PM

Mr. Block?

A Blast From The Past that is especially germane in the world of Trump and Bruce:

Song: Mister Block
Lyrics: Joe Hill

Music: To the tune of, "It Looks to Me Like a Big Time Tonight"

Please give me your attention, I'll introduce to you
A man that is a credit to "Our Red, White and Blue";
His head is made of lumber, and solid as a rock;
He is a common worker and his name is Mr. Block.
And Block he thinks he may
Be President some day.

(CHORUS:)
Oh, Mr. Block, you were born by mistake,
You take the cake,
You make me ache.
Tie on a rock to your block and then jump in the lake,
Kindly do that for Liberty's sake.

Yes, Mr. Block is lucky; he found a job, by gee!
The sharks got seven dollars, for job and fare and fee.
They shipped him to a desert and dumped him with his truck,
But when he tried to find his job, he sure was out of luck.
He shouted, "That's too raw, I'll fix them with the law."
This song was originally posted on protestsonglyrics.net
(CHORUS)

Block hiked back to the city, but wasn't doing well.
He said, I'll join the union, the great A. F. of L."
He got a job next morning, got fired in the night,
He said, "I'll see Sam Gompers and he'll fix that foreman right."
Sam Gompers said, "You see,
You've got our sympathy."

(CHORUS)

Election day he shouted, "A Socialist for Mayor!"
The "comrade" got elected, he happy was for fair,
But after the election he got an awful shock.
A great big socialistic Bull did rap him on the block.
And Comrade Block did sob,
"I helped him to his job."
This song was originally posted on protestsonglyrics.net
(CHORUS)

Poor Block, he died one evening, I'm very glad to state;
He climbed the golden ladder up to the pearly gate.
He said, "Oh, Mr. Peter, one word I'd like to tell,
I'd like to meet the Astorbilts and John D. Rockefell."
Old Pete said, "Is that so?
You'll meet them down below."

(CHORUS)

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: robomatic
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 06:29 PM

You've given us reason to move this thread 'above the line!'

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 06:46 PM

I served it up and Mossback smashed it.

Usually being the straight man gets missed.


Not that it matters but I too have been accused of a crime by of all people as Bruce. I assumed it was about me but I don't get it entirely...here it is:




Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: beardedbruce - PM
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 07:50 PM

Not I. No need, when you make obviously hate-filled comments all the time- I am sure you are on a number of watch lists.

No violence in MY system- it is the Left providing hate, abuse, unsubstantiated accusations, personal attacks, and lies.

Let he who is without sins cast the first stone- YOU have never demonstrated a sin-less demeanor*.

For the record: YOUR crime is doxing Kavanaugh- Shall we put your address out and see if there is anyone who wants to attack you and/or your family at home?

"Jackson Cosko, 27, was charged with making public restricted personal information"

Isn't it child abuse to refuse to have your kid(s) vaccinated? Isn't proper medical care a requirement?
*synonyms:

manner · air · attitude · appearance · look · aspect · mien · cast · bearing · carriage · way of carrying oneself · behavior · conduct · way of behaving · comportment · deportment-

NOT as in you are demeaner than anyone else I know

--------------------------------------------------



Well it is mean to punch down or set people up but I gave my kids more vaccines than required and I have never betrayed a confidence or an address.
2424 Admiral Boulevard is deliberate fiction.
And they say you are a good person?
Is it mean to not understand the conservative mind after it was trained for 30 years? I am trying to understand.

(nothing is demeanor than to have a tiny wiener in a world of enormous …….)

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Mossback
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 07:49 PM

Well, Donuel, I'm new here, but reviewing his recent postings, why anyone would give any credence or bother responding to Chin Hirsute Bruce - servant of Fox News(sic), Breitbart and other sources of utter bullshit and is beyond me. Let him flail away on his own, people, and give us all a rest. Just let it go.

All best,

Bill

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 09:41 PM

I am of a consciousness beyond simple offense but Bruce is a microcosm of the large number of the 'literal' flatland people who are somewhat similar to a hypnotised subject acting out post hypnotic suggestions.
He has value as a person and a teaching example.

The feeling of becoming larger than yourself by repeating fox news spin served up on a platter is enticeing for those who need it.

So I lied, in that I suppose I do understand his conservatism* and I may have been mean for even engaging Bruce but communication is better than violence.

*Olde timey conservatism is of course something quite different.


I like your playing with language, it creates new associations, meaning and surprises. Maybe even a writer.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 18 - 11:00 PM

Donuel,

I really did remember you saying you would not vaccinate.

Could my memory of several years ago be mistaken? How could that be?


My post answering 07 oct 12:44 was deleted. I guess it was too much to expect liberals to listen to anything they might disagree with.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Oct 18 - 04:10 AM

"I am sure you are on a number of watch lists."
Is that a new aspect ogf the 'Make America Rape Again' crusade - 'watch lists' - Stalin and Hitler used those ?
America is now being degraded and debased publicly by its leader - 'bout time people realised that
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 18 - 07:51 AM

My son was dismissed from kindegarten because his pediatrician could not verify his vaccine record because of their hard drive crash.

I am probably on a discretionary watch list which is something I did not know existed. It involved 2 different agents questioning me and a sky marshall with canine escort on the plane. I was fine with it. I learned that those guys are so overworked they are wearing yesterday's clothes. The guy in the tired suit only said out of the blue "don't be stupid".   
If I was not with my family it may have turned out differently.
Tip:
Never tell the truth about having a headache. It may be a no fly factor. If asked how you are, you are always fine and dandy.

Speaking the whole truth is not as risky as Bruce would have you believe.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Oct 18 - 09:03 AM

"liberals "
Needs saying again - the opposite is easy for anybody top work out -
Jim Carroll

1. willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
"liberal views towards divorce"
2. (of education) concerned with broadening a person's general knowledge and experience, rather than with technical or professional training.
"the provision of liberal adult education"
synonyms:        wide-ranging, broad-based, general, humanistic
"the provision of liberal adult education"

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Oct 18 - 11:13 AM

Than Jim Carroll is no Liberal, from the posts here.

1. willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.

I have never seen such respect or acceptance from you, on any topic you have posted.

You are judged by your own postings.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 18 - 11:41 AM

Bruce you just don't have a penchant for politics.
That's no reason not to try but that requires knowing all sides and consequences.

You're pretty good at the fundamental things in life as time goes by.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Oct 18 - 11:45 AM

"Than Jim Carroll is no Liberal, from the posts here."
I don't claim to be anything but I have no problem with liberalism -
You on the other hand use the term as an insult and have thrown your hat in the ring for an unstable maniac intent on destroying what remains of American democracy and replacing it with a hate driven regime
He is a stated misogynist, a racist who draws his support from scum like the Klan and is making the G'old US a laughing stock
In all the years I have never experienced a President capable of provoking such contempt and fear - I doubt if anybody has
I certainly have never seen a world leader laughed at by other world politicians - nor have I known one who has been forced to cancel state visits for fear of the reception he is likely to get

THIS SAYS WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID or maybe ithat's "fake news" too

The man is rapidly turning his office into a dictatorship
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Oct 18 - 12:37 PM

A MEDICAL VIEW
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Oct 18 - 12:40 PM

HOW ITHERS SEE YOU

Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Oct 18 - 03:54 PM

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/45-percent-say-media-coverage-was-biased-against-kavanaugh/ar-BBO7awG?ocid=ientp


"Forty-five percent of voters said news coverage of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings was biased against him, according to a new American Barometer survey.

The poll, conducted by Hill.TV and the HarrisX polling company, also found that 20 percent considered the media's coverage biased in his favor, with 35 percent saying it was neutral."

Subject: RE: BS: Craven awe Investigation and nerve gas?
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 18 - 04:17 PM

Forty-five percent of voters are biased against nerve gas, according to a new American Idiometer survey.

The poll, conducted by Z.TV and the XY polling company, also found that 20 percent considered the Russian coverage biased in favor of nerve gas, with 35 percent saying "I like beer".

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Mossback
Date: 08 Oct 18 - 06:44 PM

"Forty-five percent of voters said news coverage of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings was biased against him, according to a new American Barometer survey.

Screw the "American Barometer" - what has Alex Jones got to say?

PS: Over half of Republicans also think the ignorant, lying, racist, misogynist, felonious piece of dirt occupying polluting the White House is doing a fantastic job. Go figure.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: robomatic
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 01:19 AM

I'll never forget the bumper sticker I saw in 2007, in Alaska yet:

January 20, 2009: End of an Error

Of course, we don't know if the next such bumper sticker will be for 2020 or (shudder) 2024.

Don't Die Justice Ginsburg.
Don't Die John Oliver.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: robomatic
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 01:20 AM

Oh, and C.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 10:44 AM

MISOGINIST PRESIDENT

RACIST PRESIDENT

IGNORANT PRESIDENT

LYING PRESIDENT

CRIMINAL PRESIDENT

And for good measure
ANTISEMITIC PRESIDENT
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 01:56 PM

Honestly I am considering that I am the polar opposite of Donald Trump which would make me as terrible a President in reverse. I am a bit surprised we are the same species. To simplify this notion I will choose only two parameters and explore them in detail. Those two things will be Competitiveness/ambition and Imagination/curiosity.

Curiosity; It is part of our nature to love, learn and be honest. It is part of our nature to long to know more and continue to learn more.
(You can already see the difference between Twittler and me)
We are peering inside mysteries and are reporting unintuitive revelations. On the beach of the ocean of the unknown I know the probability of how little we know. What I do know would only depress many of you and be breathtakingly beautiful to the rest.

Ambition: I haven't got a speck of it relative to Tonald Drunk. Sure I have biological inertia and self preservation instincts but I have never gone to the lengths of an average athlete to train to win an event. At least I don't think so.

So Trump was born with 100 times too much competitiveness and ZERO curiosity.
I am the anti Trunk. I'm all curiosity and zero ambition,

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 02:17 PM

I'm all curiosity and zero ambition, which would make me a mere neuron in the cosmic forebrain near the amygdala. I would need a staff of billions of other cells to become a President with enough omniscience and planning to devise a progressive government to take us to the stars and create a planet we do not damage beyond repair everyday.

But that's me. How much imagination and love does Kavanaugh have to make informed judgments for the good. What is the good he is likely to seek?

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 02:40 PM

The death of an entire species is called extinction but I call it a mega mortality. We belong to a short lived species. Unlike turtles we will most likely not hang around for millions of years.

Mortality is a major player. Kavanaugh is of an age where he is not assured statistically of making it to sixty. The older you get the better your longevity odds become. So let me be the first to say
so long Bret, you have been interesting
you mean arrogant jock.

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 10 Oct 18 - 01:43 AM

I'll just drop this here - says it all....

https://youtu.be/i2OBaE_T9K8

Subject: RE: BS: Kavan ugh Investigation and Confirm?
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Oct 18 - 12:18 PM

A+