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GUEST,Jess. J 03 Oct 18 - 03:48 AM
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GUEST,Jess. J 03 Oct 18 - 06:11 AM
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Subject: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Oct 18 - 05:21 PM

Im trying to find a song on the DT thats made up of lots of pieces of other songs. I know ive seen it but cant remember the name or enough of it to search for it (ive tried and failed) does anyone know it?


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 02 Oct 18 - 05:50 PM

Such songs have been popular for many centuries. They are usually called medleys. Try Googling 'medley' or try it in the search box.


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: GUEST,Jess. J
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 03:48 AM

Thanks for the reply steve.
I wasnt as clear as i could have been when i Put the origonal post up. (3hrs of frustreated searching will do that to a person in the small hours)

The song is not a strait medly as i am familiar with them (eg. Wild rover sung to ghost riders or one song borrowing anothers chorus) every line is from a diferent song. Its like the top 50 most popular pub songs shoved into one.

Any help gratefully received


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 05:28 AM

Maybe it'd be called a mashup rather than a medley?
Any clues or leads here? :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mashup_(music)

It'd be handy if you could post even a few of the words\songs you recollect.


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: GUEST,Jess. J
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 06:11 AM

What i can remember is, it was sung in first person, the singer talking about how he had had all these things happen in his life (which could also be read to mean he had sung all of these songs the lines were borrowed from)
Like had gold in great store and been exiled to americay and shiprecked and jilted in love i think.
I cant exactly remember any of the words

Im pritty sure it included snippets from
Wild rover
Mountains pf morne
Whiskey in the jar
Irish rover
And about 2 dozen others


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Mo the caller
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 08:40 AM

From the post above I don't think this is the one you want , but The Egg came to mind.


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Mo the caller
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 08:58 AM

This thread https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=137028#3585000


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 09:08 AM

Dunno if it is the one you want but Stanley Accrington does one. Worth dropping him an email?


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: oldhippie
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 09:44 AM

Not what you're looking for, but there is a song combining two Eric Bogle tunes, Nobody's Moggy Now and No Mans Land. It can be found on the Roundworm CD. Listen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2z-zMMpfTY


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Cool Beans
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 09:58 AM

Not the one you seek, but this song mentions 20 other songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBUsdYEfwK0


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 10:25 AM

ref DtG ... Stanley Accrington certainly is a likely suspect.
He has form ... this one made up from the titles of country songs

https://youtu.be/IEC4OW7wcBs?t=59s


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: GUEST,Jess. J
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 12:30 PM

Wow, thanks for all the replies everyone. Some really good music suggestions. Sadly none of the above songs is the one im after.

Its definetly in the digi trad somehwere. Im sure at some point i will manage to find it again (i found it by accident the first time while useing the keyword search).

I had a look through the parodies section (all 365 of them) but none of the song titles rung a bell and none of the ones i open was the right one. Its probubly in there somewhere though. When im less tired i’ll have a dig through all of them.


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 01:45 PM

The oe my mother used to sing was made up of titles - I knew some of them but most were before my time
The tune was that of the first song which, I think came from the depression

'I want some money,'
To give it to the 'Sheik of Araby'
'Oh, ain't it funny'
'Old pal, why don't you answer me?'
'Tippi canoe', 'Jealous of you'
'Hiawatha's melody of love,'
'Carbolic'
'Here comes old beaver'
'Floating down the stream to you'

Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 04:20 PM

Jess, as I wrote earlier the phenomenon you describe has the proper technical appellation MEDLEY, i.e., a song made up entirely of a catalogue of song titles or well-known song extracts.

'Wild Rover' sung to 'Ghost Rider' is definitely not a medley. I don't know if this type has a proper name yet, probably not. In the early nineteenth century they were very common often with just the title 'Medley' or something like 'Farmer's Medley' with a theme, but they were popular in earlier centuries also.

If it included 'Wild Rover' and 'Mountains of Mourne' the chances are that it is a very modern example, i.e., post 1960.


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 04:25 PM

BTW Jim's example is perfect!


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 04:27 PM

Whilst 'The Egg' is indeed a medley, it also uses other devices such as pun and parody.


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 05:07 PM

here's another which it probably isn't :

The Wild Rover (reformed) by The Shambles

I've been a 'Wild Rover', now I've seen the light
I won't be 'Leaving Liverpool' every night
I've packed up my songbook, and you'll understand
I'll not tie it up with a 'Black Velvet Band'
...


thread.cfm?threadid=126523#3152537 


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 05:45 PM

Off main topic (but apropos a couple posts above), "Wild Colonial Boy" also works to the tune of "Ghost Riders In the Sky"...with a chorus of "Too ra li oh, too ra li ay, the wild colonial boy".

Another short song made up of song titles was written by Jerry Bryant, "A Shanty In Old Shanty Town":

Only a shanty in old shanty town
Away you Santee and blow the man down.
Where haul away, Joe goes down to Hilo
And Stormalong's drinkin' with Reuben Ranzo.
Shallow Brown, Hieland Laddie, and Jack's in kahoots,
And so we will pay Paddy Doyle for his boots.
And with Boney we'll roll that old woodpile on down
To a shanty in old shanty town.

Linn


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: rich-joy
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 06:23 PM

I'm sure I recall a Mudcat thread from ages back that talked of a song/s made up from Ballad titles and/or the "famous folkie lines" to be found within many of them.
I think it was published in one of those OAK Publication songbooks.
Sorry I don't have time at present to search it out :)

G'Luck,
R-J


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: GUEST,Phil D'Conch
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 07:18 PM

American Pie - This'll be the day... that I die, &c.

In Tin Pan Alley it was a pastiche not a medley. Old time TV was a Song of Song Titles (clev-er) Today it's a shout out or Easter egg.


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: GUEST,Kristoffer Ross
Date: 03 Oct 18 - 09:19 PM

Then there's the "60's Mudley" that Mike Agranoff sings:
YouTube Link Here
Even if it has no relation to what you're searching for, it's well worth the two-minutes you'll spend listening.
Best,
~Kristoffer


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 04 Oct 18 - 09:42 AM

Ah yes, I'd forgotten the title 'Song of Songs'. Still prefer the simple 'Medley' but that word has wider meanings I suppose. Perhaps the most famous of the mid 19thc was Arthur Lloyd's 'Song of Songs' which was indeed just a medley of titles. I have a copy of the original sheet music with a charming coloured Concanen engraving on the cover. Lloyd is dressed in a very clownish way holding a piece of sheet music in his hand. It has 9 double stanzas, a total of about 72 song titles. The best use for us today is with dating the songs mentioned.


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: CupOfTea
Date: 06 Oct 18 - 11:05 AM

This inquiry brought back vividly the astonishment and delight I felt when my late friend Tim Wallace performed a pastiche of lines from folksongs popular in the 60s & 70s. Much like what was done in the Mike Agranoff video referenced above, but Tim did it ALL himself- just him with his guitar, shifting key, time signature and all with each new phrase from a new song. Wish I could pull up the lyrics, or even the title - which was something like "3-minute folksong" because it was as brilliant as anything else he wrote, so much of which never got properly recorded. The most stellar moment with this song was when he performed it as his local contribution to a Phil Ochs song night. Sunny Ochs was in the wings having hysterics - laughing so hard she was holding her sides.

Joanne in Cleveland, still missing Tim

PS for some recorded and accompanied versions of some of Tim's songs, search for "Smoking Fez Monkeys" on YouTube. I was astonished to find the lyrics to his "You Don't Even Care" on the Traditional Lyrics page when searching for a recording


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: r.padgett
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 04:09 AM

The Egg of course

Ray


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 02:21 PM

Not what Guest is looking for, but a friend in Edinburgh has written his own Michael Marra tribute song, including many references to and quotes from Michael's songs.


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Tunesmith
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 03:57 PM

Has nobody mentioned the BLUES!


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: GUEST,MikeOfNorthumbria (sans cookie)
Date: 10 Oct 18 - 07:52 AM

Also worth a look is Stan Kelly's "Come all ye and go back again" - which consisted of (about) 6 4-line stanzas, the first three all composed of generic 'first lines' and the last three of generic 'last lines'.

A quick google reveals that it's already here:

https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=65852

Wassail!


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Subject: RE: look for a Song made up of other songs
From: Lighter
Date: 10 Oct 18 - 09:29 AM

Poole & Foster's clever "Song of All Songs" (1863) is in the DT.


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