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Origins: Glasgow Reel (Davey Arthur)

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David W 09 Oct 18 - 12:19 PM
gillymor 09 Oct 18 - 12:54 PM
GUEST,kenny 09 Oct 18 - 01:37 PM
GUEST,kenny 09 Oct 18 - 01:48 PM
David W 09 Oct 18 - 04:21 PM
CupOfTea 10 Oct 18 - 11:14 AM
GUEST,kenny 10 Oct 18 - 12:50 PM
Gordon Jackson 11 Oct 18 - 11:55 AM
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Subject: Origins: Glasgow Reel
From: David W
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 12:19 PM

Glasgow Reel, also known as Howling Winds and Tam Lin.

I was wondering what the origin was. Some people say a Davey Arthur original composition, some say he his version of an older tune. Or is there another origin.

Not to be confused with the Old Scottish Borders ballad Tam Lin.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Glasgow Reel
From: gillymor
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 12:54 PM

Here's some info at slowplayers.org and I'm sure there's a discussion about it at session.org.
Great tune.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Glasgow Reel
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 01:37 PM

Davey Arthur composed it. He is on record as stating this categorically on a CD titled "The Reel Years : 1973 - 1983 by "The Fureys And Davey Arthur" which I used to have.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Glasgow Reel
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 01:48 PM

PS - the "Glasgow Reel" title is a later, incorrect, addition. I believe the first ever recording of the tune would have been by Davey himself playing it on "Emigrant", a "Fureys and Davey Arthur" LP record released on the Polydor label in 1977.
Track # 5, where the title is "Tamalinn" [sic ].
I've just listened to his introduction, which I saved on a hard disc recorder. He says he wrote the tune when he was 20 years old, and that - quote : "it is the best known and certainly most recorded of my compositions to date".


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Subject: RE: Origins: Glasgow Reel
From: David W
Date: 09 Oct 18 - 04:21 PM

Thanks, that's great


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Subject: RE: Origins: Glasgow Reel
From: CupOfTea
Date: 10 Oct 18 - 11:14 AM

A piper & guitar player who used to come to a favorite open mic was fond of this tune. His understanding of the multiple names was that Howling Wind was the original name, that it was popular with a group called Tam Lin, and picked up that name from them popularizing the tune. The group was based in Glasgow, which also led to another naming of the tune, from folks who learned it in sessions. This made sense to me, though I have no idea if this is the actual route to the multiple names.

Joanne in Cleveland, where it gets called "Tam Lin Reel"


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Subject: RE: Origins: Glasgow Reel
From: GUEST,kenny
Date: 10 Oct 18 - 12:50 PM

".....Howling Wind was the original name, " -    Not true. The name "The Howling Wind" - another misnomer - was supposedly given to the tune by Irish accordion player Paddy O'Brien.
The tune was called "Tam Lin" , by its' composer Davey Arthur, and recorded by him before any Glasgow group could have played it. How it came to be known as "The Glasgow Reel", I have no idea.
Anyone disagreeing with what the facts I've posted above would be calling Davey Arthur a liar. Now why would he do that ? Do you really think that likely ?


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Subject: RE: Origins: Glasgow Reel (Davey Arthur)
From: Gordon Jackson
Date: 11 Oct 18 - 11:55 AM

It was certainly named Tam Lin, after the Scots ballad (Child no. 39).

We worked out our own setting of the tune, recorded it and asked Davey if we could put in on our album. He said we could, so we did. There was no mention of it being called anything other than Tam Lin.

You can hear our version here.


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