BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?

Subject: RE: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 04 Nov 18 - 02:55 AM

I'm with Joe o this
I used to enjoy Bonfire Night as a child - I never realised the Catholic connection until later in life - it was a harmless street get-together - literally - the council used to have to re-tar our street every year
Things seemed to have changed so much as to make them undesirable
In some places they have become a symbol of HATRED AND SECTARIANISM

Mind you, if we could manage to get Trump to......
nah- he'd never volunteer
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Nov 18 - 12:58 AM

I've always thought of Catholic masturbation as being quiet and polite, but maybe Steve knows something I don't know....

...and I have to say that I have always been a bit ambivalent about Guy Fawkes Day. I mean, which side am I supposed to be on? And what are the appropriate greetings to be extended on such an event? - throwing firecrackers at your neighbors?

-Jose-

Subject: RE: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Nov 18 - 07:37 PM

Well I suppose. But just keep your pets indoors of a November evening anyway! Jeez!

I spent a week on the Amalfi Coast in August 2013, there were fireworks every night and it was all dead jolly. Same in 2014 on Lipari.

And, Senoufou, you may rest assured that a Catholic masturbation session is bloody noisy. Ooh ahh YES!!! Glory be...!

Subject: RE: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 03 Nov 18 - 06:36 PM

As Steve says, difficult to ban it completely. But restrict to organised displays, and for the UK at least, keep it to November 5th, whatever day of the week it falls on, rather than have a week or more of nightly big bangs and animal mayhem!
(Says she, who lives in Edinburgh, where they have very bangy fireworks at the end of every Tattoo performance for a few minutes, then the Festival fireworks concert, lasting 45 minutes, and a huge display at Hogmanay too!)
However, sticking to set dates at least allows animal owners to take any necessary precautions for their pets.

Subject: RE: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Nov 18 - 05:22 PM

In Florida, where I live, explosive and aerial fireworks are illegal while sparklers and other non-explosive items are okay. However, there's this little loophole: fireworks sellers can legally sell explosive and aerial fireworks to purchasers who sign affidavits stating that they are for "agricultural use". That means they're going to be used to scare birds from farm fields or fish ponds. Yeah, right....

I suppose an apartment complex swimming pool could be considered a fish pond.

And, for those who don't want to risk a $1000 fine for lying on such an affidavit, all fireworks are legal in the neighboring states of Georgia and Alabama. Fireworks buying road trips are a bit of a tradition before certain holidays.

Subject: RE: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
From: Senoufou
Date: 03 Nov 18 - 04:33 PM

Husband has just gone out with a torch to check there's no smouldering going on around our oil tank, and also to scan our neighbour's outbuildings, which are all of wooden construction.

The explosions seem to have abated somewhat, but more have started up further away (I reckon it's The Fox pub, down by the river, where they usually have a display)

Hee hee Steve, despite the disapproval of the Catholic Church, I rather wish these folk spent their evening masturbating instead - at least it would be nice and quiet!

I'm not calling for a total ban on fireworks, but it seems reasonable to me to have better control by limiting them to supervised, public displays, and not selling them in supermarkets to all and sundry.

I've been to one of these once, and there were safety barriers, plenty of security measures and extinguishers etc. The men setting them off were professionals and dressed in special fireproof clothing with balaclavas.

Also, the fireworks were wonderfully creative and spectacular.

I have heard that in some urban areas, youths cause untold problems and distress by chucking fireworks at people's windows or through their letterboxes, setting fires all over the place.

At least there's no malicious stuff like that here in our village.

Just bloody deafening noise!

Subject: RE: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
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Date: 03 Nov 18 - 04:12 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
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Date: 03 Nov 18 - 04:08 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
From: Iains
Date: 03 Nov 18 - 04:04 PM

Having bought bangers by the handful at 8 years old, this is a subject I am not best suited to comment on. Perhaps part of the problem mentioned is that more and more people go through life having no contact with animals. They give no thought to the matter beyond their own enjoyment. It is perhaps education required rather than more legislation. There is also the additional problem that education may not cure selfishness, anymore than legislation can cure stupidity.

Subject: RE: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Nov 18 - 03:56 PM

Don't forget, everybody,
that Senoufou opened a thread here
when there was a fire across the street.
Remember that house that burned to the ground?
No wonder she's spooked, and her husband as well!!

Subject: RE: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Nov 18 - 03:53 PM

Good luck trying to do that. In the US someone will always find a way to sell or buy fireworks.

Subject: RE: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Nov 18 - 03:51 PM

Nah. We can't go around banning stuff. I hate foxhunting but I'd rather ridicule it out of existence than ban it (which hasn't worked in any case). If you ban abortion you simply drive it underground and we end up killing young women. The Catholic Church tries to ban masturbation, the upshot being that now 99.253% of Catholics do it as opposed to 99.756% previously. Argue your case, organise demos, put out leaflets. But if you start wanting to ban stuff, you lose me. Batten down the hatches, close the curtains and have a cup of char. Fireworks are a tradition the whole world over and billions of people need a bit of light in their lives. It'll pass!

Subject: RE: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
From: peregrina
Date: 03 Nov 18 - 03:40 PM

I agree!
Freelance fireworks nightly, intermittently for a few hours
Every since the 1st
Noise, terrified animals, danger to wildlife and a few tragic human accidents every year
Can't believe these DIY explosive are sold all over the place, even with BOGOF

Subject: BS: Should Fireworks Be Banned?
From: Senoufou
Date: 03 Nov 18 - 03:37 PM

I expect I'll sound a terrible killjoy, and of course I used to adore Guy Fawkes Night when I was young.
But fireworks then seemed to be much quieter and mostly pretty and colourful. I used to like Catherine wheels and Roman candles, golden rain and silver fountains. We children held sparklers which we waved to make patterns, while we watched the Guy burn on the bonfire.

But outside just now, two nearby families are having the most frightening Bonfire Night known to man. It sounds like the blooming Somme. The explosions are deafening, and spent rockets are raining down on our garage, conservatory and house roofs.

One family is opposite, and the other is two doors down, right next to Logie and Molly (two beautiful dogs) who I can hear screaming and barking in fright.

There are oil tanks in everyone's back garden, full of kerosene. Our neighbour has drums of red diesel standing in front of his house for his tractor.
There is farm stock (beef and dairy cattle, pigs and sheep) in all the surrounding fields, and about twenty horses at the riding stables up the road. Straw stacks and old farm barns etc too. Imagine the panic among the animals!

My husband has just hurriedly popped our car in the garage.
It's been going on like this for two hours solid, and I'm getting angry.
Would it be better to ban 'private' purchase of fireworks and restrict them to public displays only? There must be no end of awful accidents, and the poor Fire Brigade must be going flat out around Norfolk.

I have to add (just to give the entire picture) that these two families are not country folk. They come from further south and perhaps don't fully understand this environment. I'm very fond of them and always give a few small presents for their children at Christmas, in case people think I'm a miserable old hag! :)